KevoM 16.11.2016 16:11 |
There's a new TV drama/doc on Freddie next Sun 20th Nov on C5 UK... 'Freddie Mercury Story: Who Wants to Live Forever?' link We may not need the film after this? |
Bad Seed 16.11.2016 17:20 |
link |
scottmax 16.11.2016 17:32 |
It looks fucking disgustingly awful |
raucousmonster 17.11.2016 05:44 |
Hope I'm wrong - and judging by what I see in the clip I doubt it but It's a Channel 5 doc which means..... almost certainly garbage. |
Pim Derks 17.11.2016 05:58 |
Really hope there'll be some way to watch this in the Netherlands. It will be amazingly bad, I'm sure :) |
Kuijpy 17.11.2016 12:55 |
Facebooklink is dead... |
mooghead 17.11.2016 13:26 |
My god that looks fucking horrendous. Shame the general public will believe they were real cameras on the wall and make assumptions from it :-( |
emrabt 17.11.2016 13:45 |
Fucking hell, I've seen some of the BBC / ITV Docudramas in the past and they've been pretty good. This truly looks dreadful, I highly doubt the general public would mistake this for anything true to life. They've actually used Pound shop wigs and moustaches, it looks like backstage at a 'one night of queen' gig. |
cmsdrums 18.11.2016 02:07 |
Christ, the clips are horrific. The syrups on John, Roger and Brian are ridiculous, as is the dialogue and acting. The frustrating thing is that 'Joe Public' will watch things like this and assume that these conversations actually took place. |
Costa86 18.11.2016 06:31 |
Looks somewhat like a crock of crap. Freddie pouring the champagne bottle looked a bit like some inept idiot with early-stage Parkinson's trying to hold his dick for the first time. But he does look surprisingly like Freddie. Except for the nose, which is too crooked I think. |
flash00. 18.11.2016 08:12 |
It actually looks like a parody, I'm sure it's the lead singer from Killer-Queen tribute band when he speaks he sounds a parody, more than likely the show will be lies and trying to shock the viewer. I'm guessing Freestone and Gambaccini will be on and giving there same crap on Freddie's private life |
cmsdrums 18.11.2016 08:14 |
Now think ahead a couple of years to when the official Freddie/Queen movie finally comes out........ **shudder** |
beemack74 18.11.2016 10:33 |
No doubt they'll have Kenny Everett visiting Garden Lodge during the bleak autumn months of 1991. |
Costa86 18.11.2016 10:58 |
It surely can't be any worse than "Freddie's Loves", also a Channel 5 production, where Freestone said in his interview "his (Freddie's) cock was huge". Did we really need to know? I think it was amply evident from the tight pants Freddie wore most of his life... |
Bad Seed 18.11.2016 12:14 |
It's a itv production, not ch5. And I'm obviously in the minority but I don't think it looks too bad! |
emrabt 18.11.2016 20:37 |
It's Channel 5 bad look at the website linked to in the first post. |
Bad Seed 19.11.2016 02:04 |
emrabt wrote: It's Channel 5 bad look at the website linked to in the first post.No it's not. It's an itv production which is being broadcast by channel 5. |
emrabt 19.11.2016 03:01 |
*No it's not. It's an itv production which is being broadcast by channel 5.* It was commissioned by channel 5. Regardless of the third party who owns the production company, Channel 5 are the ones paying for it. |
Marknow 20.11.2016 15:07 |
link |
cmsdrums 20.11.2016 15:38 |
Without the dire and completely unnecessary reconstructions there are some 'credible' talking heads (Ratty, David Wigg, Peter Straker etc...), but the acted sequences are just the fucking pits. |
Kuijpy 20.11.2016 15:42 |
What awfull! hahaha OMG, Darling, Darling, Darling, Darling |
Mr Mercury 20.11.2016 16:03 |
cmsdrums wrote: Without the dire and completely unnecessary reconstructions there are some 'credible' talking heads (Ratty, David Wigg, Peter Straker etc...), but the acted sequences are just the fucking pits.The guy playing Freddie does look a bit like him, but the guy playing Brian looks like they just chose a guy that had a big nose and stuck a curly wig on him. They then add insult to injury by not even giving him the right guitar - he plays a Gibson SG. but overall, you are right - the acted parts are just awful |
Kuijpy 20.11.2016 16:47 |
Only 2 secs new footage of I want it all, or am i wrong? |
cmsdrums 20.11.2016 17:04 |
Kuijpy wrote: Only 2 secs new footage of I want it all, or am i wrong?The aim of this programme was not to treat us to rare band stuff - it was unofficial and never therefore going to have access to the vaults |
brians wig 20.11.2016 17:05 |
It's pretty sick really, especially the end where they re-enact his death. In daylight, I hasten to add, despite making it clear it was 7.01pm on 24th November.... |
Marknow 20.11.2016 17:10 |
A putrid production. |
Day dop 20.11.2016 17:12 |
They tried, but it was crap. As another forum member pointed out above "Darling, darling, darling..." to the point it became irritating, every other line. Also, Freddie was portrayed as having no humour whatsoever. It felt forced, and felt me cold. |
Kuijpy 20.11.2016 17:16 |
Another 2 hours wasted off my life... |
beemack74 20.11.2016 17:32 |
Not only that, but "Freddie" was seen smoking in 1975,thought he didn't start til 1980-81? When I first saw "Freddie" backstage at Live Aid, I almost expected him to say "Good Moaning"! |
Supersonic_Man89 20.11.2016 17:41 |
Thoughts as i watched it: Why is Freddie calling him Peter, he would have called him Pheobe. Why is it implied that before any performance, all Freddie fucking does is go 'Day-oh!' Whoever cast Roger Taylor is a bloody fool. I mean...nothing, nothing like the bloke. Such shit script and dialogue "There you are Mary"....why would you say your friend's name in a nightclub like that? Freddie smoking in 1975? Really poor research. At least research how Freddie broke the news to Mary...Mary and David Wigg have said in interviews more than less how it went - and not like that. What is that 1979 haircut?? Why cast somebody who doesn't look a thing like Paul Prenter...and then get him to introduce Freddie to a new lover...who does actually fucking look loads like Paul Prenter?!?! How often does Freddie wear his bloody Live Aid outfit and jeans? It's like he didn't have anything else to wear? It's 1985...so he wore that all year round did he? Darling, Darling, Darling....jesus, such a cartoony character. Bullshit Knebworth theory...Freddie's voice didn't wane because of Aids. Even the crackpots on this forum haven't suggested that. Peter Freestone has stated that Freddie was never diagnosed with HIV, but instead was told he had AIDs. So what's this period of time where apparently he knew he was HIV positive all about? Where have they got this info? Another reveal of news...another incorrect portrayal. Live performance of Barcelona did the narrator just describe that as. "He's singing well"...no, he's miming well. Doesn't seem on death's door 24 hours before he dies...seems fed up and playing with his ring. Rubbish directing. |
The Fonz 20.11.2016 17:43 |
this sounds awesome. |
SmokyQuartz 20.11.2016 19:34 |
Supersonic_Man89 wrote: Thoughts as i watched it: Why is it implied that before any performance, all Freddie fucking does is go 'Day-oh!' How often does Freddie wear his bloody Live Aid outfit and jeans? It's like he didn't have anything else to wear? It's 1985...so he wore that all year round did he? Darling, Darling, Darling....jesus, such a cartoony character.LOL. My thoughts also on a lot of your points, especially the quoted. As for the dates re AIDS, HIV awareness, if he was aware of that, etc, there's so much info going around and it's clear they've had access to it, but it can be interpreted in a number of ways. They've interpreted it differently to how I would have. |
matt z 20.11.2016 21:10 |
ah crud. this sounds at least palatable. Edible trash. wish I had a good net connection and wasn't sick this weekend. I'd have loved to have seen this crap. instead I watched "nocturnal animals" at the theater. ... which was actually pretty good! if the biographical pic actually gets made, it's likely to be watered down and boring. (*expectation based upon no source whatsoever) had the script/treatment been leaked around yet? |
Pim Derks 21.11.2016 04:09 |
So, where's the torrent? I've got to see this. |
. 21.11.2016 04:46 |
Kuijpy wrote: Only 2 secs new footage of I want it all, or am i wrong? |
rocknrolllover 21.11.2016 06:40 |
Personally I never seen it |
Chief Mouse 21.11.2016 06:46 |
The Kurgan wrote:Kuijpy wrote: Only 2 secs new footage of I want it all, or am i wrong? Can you share the raw file please? Thanks! |
e-man 21.11.2016 09:32 |
any links yet? |
Chinwonder2 21.11.2016 10:07 |
Did anyone manage to record it, I missed it :/ -Chin |
YourValentine 21.11.2016 11:58 |
You can watch it here link |
rocknrolllover 21.11.2016 12:12 |
YourValentine wrote: You can watch it here linkI think it's a waste of time. This shit. The untold story looks presentable than this. Trust me. |
e-man 21.11.2016 12:12 |
thanks! |
Ivo-1976 21.11.2016 13:50 |
What an awful pile of crap. |
The Real Wizard 21.11.2016 14:56 |
Thank goodness Freddie's mum wasn't around to see this. Reenacting a bedroom death scene with revisionist history? I'll pass, thanks. |
e-man 21.11.2016 15:34 |
not having watched it yet, I still think there are bound to be scenes here which are closer to the truth than whatever the official film one day will be? Peter Hince and that bodyguard alone can offer some insight which might not be popular, but still real... |
Bad Seed 21.11.2016 16:37 |
Can't see why everyone is getting so hung up about this. A couple of inaccuracies and a couple of bad wigs on characters with all of 20 seconds screen time! What the hell were people expecting? A multi-million dollar, Steven Spielberg directed blockbuster? And there are people on the facebook page who seem to be confusing Freddie with Cliff Richard. |
rhapsody8 22.11.2016 01:26 |
link |
Costa86 22.11.2016 07:50 |
One of the worst parts was Freddie telling Mary, Jim and Phoebe that he had AIDS. They were all seated round a table - as if Phoebe was on the same level as Mary in terms of how Freddie felt about them. And Mary's response to the news was "oh God, Freddie, you poor thing". It was so cringeworthy that I stopped the documentary there and haven't finished it. Might try to finish it tonight. That said, it was good to see Terry Giddings in it - not because he had much to say, but because I'd been wondering how he looked today. And Peter Straker, amongst a few others, had a few mildy useful contributions to give. But defnitely a documentary about Freddie's illness, not primarily about the music, which is a shame. |
Supersonic_Man89 22.11.2016 08:35 |
Hard to make documentary about the music when they don't have the rights though |
Costa86 22.11.2016 09:18 |
Which brings into question why make it at all then, the answer of course being that it is meant to satisfy those viewers who enjoy the "Michael Jackson/Anna Nicole Smith/etc.: Autopsy" type documentaries about celebrities. There were some tidbits here and there which were interesting in this one though, from Mack etc. |
Costa86 22.11.2016 09:27 |
Supersonic_Man89 wrote: Thoughts as i watched it: Why is Freddie calling him Peter, he would have called him Pheobe. Why is it implied that before any performance, all Freddie fucking does is go 'Day-oh!' Whoever cast Roger Taylor is a bloody fool. I mean...nothing, nothing like the bloke. Such shit script and dialogue "There you are Mary"....why would you say your friend's name in a nightclub like that? Freddie smoking in 1975? Really poor research. At least research how Freddie broke the news to Mary...Mary and David Wigg have said in interviews more than less how it went - and not like that. What is that 1979 haircut?? Why cast somebody who doesn't look a thing like Paul Prenter...and then get him to introduce Freddie to a new lover...who does actually fucking look loads like Paul Prenter?!?! How often does Freddie wear his bloody Live Aid outfit and jeans? It's like he didn't have anything else to wear? It's 1985...so he wore that all year round did he? Darling, Darling, Darling....jesus, such a cartoony character. Bullshit Knebworth theory...Freddie's voice didn't wane because of Aids. Even the crackpots on this forum haven't suggested that. Peter Freestone has stated that Freddie was never diagnosed with HIV, but instead was told he had AIDs. So what's this period of time where apparently he knew he was HIV positive all about? Where have they got this info? Another reveal of news...another incorrect portrayal. Live performance of Barcelona did the narrator just describe that as. "He's singing well"...no, he's miming well. Doesn't seem on death's door 24 hours before he dies...seems fed up and playing with his ring. Rubbish directing.The constant "darling" this and "darling" that were extremely annoying. |
matt z 22.11.2016 09:39 |
I didn't think it was that bad. I'm sure the shooting schedule mostly consisted of establishing shots with few characterized scenes; explaining the "oh darling, ..." fuss. just as the budget for garden lodge included only two rooms. Just like the wigs looked horrible. I know it's tasteless to reenact Freddie's demise, but unfortunately that's a huge part of the story. the thing I found offensive (*besides Brian looking like some short heavy set guy with a big nose; probably a carpenter on the production) was that John was summed up like this. 1: Completely silent, may nod head 2. always holding a drink. 3. oh alright always holding a beer/cocktail It's probably just UNINTENTIONALLY funny. on the plus side: The guy got some Freddie mannerisms down. The first person testimonials are resourceful, respectful and insightful. the characterization of Freddie is sympathetic for the most part. Most of the scenes consist of establishing shots. the few that don't are consigned to his private life with Jim, those seem respectful. I enjoyed it, possibly because I had expected to laugh and mock it |
Costa86 22.11.2016 09:50 |
One thing I was slightly surprised by was how, erm, "loose" Barbara Valentin was. I knew she had done soft-porn films in her past and that she was basically a retired soft-porn actress (although she did act in a couple of respectable films as well), but the documentary portrays her as being sort of a very sexually-wild companion to Freddie, in terms of her being his accessory on frequent sexual adventures with multiple partners. I thought they were mostly just friends, with the occasional orgy thrown in, but apparently it was the rule of the day for them to have threesomes etc. |
vin221 22.11.2016 11:24 |
I noted two new points in this programme that I wasn't aware of before: 1) Freddie cutting himself shaving and shouting at Valentin to "get out" of the bathroom in Munich (implying he may have been aware he was infected in 85' (or was it 84?)). Anyone else have a comment/other source on this? 2) Prenter giving Freddie poppers before his cake came out at his 39th birthday at Hendersen's, rendering him temporarily blind/starry eyed. I always wondered why, in the footage, Prenter is holding onto Freddie's arm as if he couldn't stand up. Seemed a bit odd, but now we know why. |
Holly2003 22.11.2016 12:48 |
You all have no taste. It was brilliant. I particularly liked the guy who played Brian May, despite looking to be about 5 foot 7 inches tall. I also wasn't aware Brian played an Epiphone Les Paul with Bigsby tremolo system at Live Aid. Glad they set the record straight on that one. |
pittrek 22.11.2016 14:11 |
So I'm watching it right now. If I didn't know better I would think Freddie was just some random coke addict homosexual. |
bucsateflon 22.11.2016 14:17 |
not bad for a docudrama, hopefully this does not turn into a major motion picture sometime... ever |
Cena1970 22.11.2016 14:57 |
vin221 wrote: I noted two new points in this programme that I wasn't aware of before: 1) Freddie cutting himself shaving and shouting at Valentin to "get out" of the bathroom in Munich (implying he may have been aware he was infected in 85' (or was it 84?)). Anyone else have a comment/other source on this? 2) Prenter giving Freddie poppers before his cake came out at his 39th birthday at Hendersen's, rendering him temporarily blind/starry eyed. I always wondered why, in the footage, Prenter is holding onto Freddie's arm as if he couldn't stand up. Seemed a bit odd, but now we know why.Regarding Freddie cutting himself shaving, that story came from Barbara Valentin herself and I remember reading it in one of the biographies - Lesley Anne Jones' I think. I'm not sure how much I believe all of Barbara's tales though. I'd never heard about Paul Prenter giving Freddie poppers at his birthday party before, but seeing the footage it does make sense. Prenter was a piece of work who never had Freddie's interests at heart and, later of course, betrayed him. |
e-man 22.11.2016 15:45 |
watching it now...I think people need to take a breath and remember what this is; a low budget production with NO intent on shedding light on the musician Freddie Mercury. minu Now, if you don't like these sides of Freddie portraied - that's fair enough. Hell, Freddie would most likely hate for it to be on public display, even after all these years. My point is; if that does not sit well with you, then you're not going to like this one, or ANYTHING similiar. And again - fair play! For me, it tells a BIT more of the story than we're ever going to get from an official product. Freddie was no saint, and while I would never "endorse" his lifestyle and I have a strong point of view when it comes to drugs etc, I feel it's necessary to paint a more complete picture of the man. In order to do that, you have to include some of the things that make some people uncomfortable. He was a complex character with many sides to him, all of which went into his music. without the music, we wouldn't be here on this board. This is also why I like alot of the stuff in Jim Hutton's book, in Freestone's book, etc - it tells a more complete story of the man behind the music. The man continues to intrigue me, and that's why I sit through YET another low budget production, and that's why I read YET another interview with someone like Freestone, Straker, Moran...hopefully to pick up some little minutia which further completes the picture I have of him. About the film itself; the low budget I guess is the reason for awful wigs, the wrong guitar, (and the wrong Brian!) and for the most part, the horrible acting. The guy playing Freddie though, for someone without acting experience, he really impressed me. He had so much of the mannerism down, and at times he sounded very much like Freddie. Not to mention, he looked ALOT like him, especially the 80s version. Well done, I say! I hope he gets these positive feedbacks, and not just the criticism. So...could there at one point be a documentary that shows BOTH the man, and the rock star Freddie Mercury? Unless they go for a 4 hr feature ala Tom Petty's Runnin down a dream, or The Eagles perhaps...I don't think so. Until they decide to do (which they won't...), we need to gather the bits worth keeping from a various selection of unofficial documentaries. And IMO, this one on Channel 5, did have some bits that were worthwhile. |
pittrek 22.11.2016 16:04 |
OK I gave up after one hour. The only positive comment I can give is the guy who played Freddie was absolutely fantastic. He looks like him and sounds EXACTLY like him. Great choice. Unfortunately he was the only thing I liked in the hour |
Costa86 22.11.2016 16:49 |
vin221 wrote: I noted two new points in this programme that I wasn't aware of before: 1) Freddie cutting himself shaving and shouting at Valentin to "get out" of the bathroom in Munich (implying he may have been aware he was infected in 85' (or was it 84?)). Anyone else have a comment/other source on this? 2) Prenter giving Freddie poppers before his cake came out at his 39th birthday at Hendersen's, rendering him temporarily blind/starry eyed. I always wondered why, in the footage, Prenter is holding onto Freddie's arm as if he couldn't stand up. Seemed a bit odd, but now we know why.I believe (1) came directly from Barbara Valentin herself, when she was interviewed by Lesley Ann Jones for Jones' book 'Freddie Mercury: The Definitive Biography'. I have the 2012 edition of Jones' book, and I'm pretty sure it was in there. Jones is interviewed a lot in this documentary. Regarding when he knew he was infected, as we have discussed a number of times, there's no way of knowing for sure, but we know that the first commercial HIV tests became available in 1985, so this is the earliest he could have known "for sure" - i.e. not through inferring it because his lovers were getting sick. Mary Austin has stated that he knew he was sick during the Magic Tour, so he very likely had been tested for HIV by 1986. Re (2), this was news to me, but as you said, the Living On My Own music video does show Prenter holding Freddie by the arm, so in a way this corroborates the story. Prenter was one of the worst things which ever happened to Freddie. Incidentally, Jones wrote this article last week in the Express, on the occasion of Freddie's 25th death anniversary: link. |
Chinwonder2 22.11.2016 17:13 |
For anyone who would like to download it (I dunno why, it's horrible) here you go! https://mega.nz/#!J0VThZBb!Owqpm6jGVnwWufQdTClmdmIxZAGO6q_bAfxM2sTbv9I -Chin |
vin221 22.11.2016 18:00 |
Thanks for the info Costa86 |
Ken8 23.11.2016 00:28 |
Costa86 wrote: Incidentally, Jones wrote this article last week in the Express, on the occasion of Freddie's 25th death anniversary: link.Thanks "Brian May on Strictly and Queen hits deployed on TV ads for budget sofas and nappies would have made him squirm. As would the sight of endless ageing bands slogging their guts out on comeback tours. As would juke box musicals. Freddie loved life yet managed to depart with dignity and grace. There’s much to be said for it." Couldn't agree more |
matt z 23.11.2016 01:06 |
Ken8 wrote:Freddie also loved wealth. ... if not wealth, let's call it "financial comfort". I doubt she's qualified to make that judgement for a dead man. It DOES make for showing her disgust, and perspective.Costa86 wrote: Incidentally, Jones wrote this article last week in the Express, on the occasion of Freddie's 25th death anniversary: link.Thanks "Brian May on Strictly and Queen hits deployed on TV ads for budget sofas and nappies would have made him squirm. As would the sight of endless ageing bands slogging their guts out on comeback tours. As would juke box musicals. Freddie loved life yet managed to depart with dignity and grace. There’s much to be said for it." Couldn't agree more If Freddie earned cash by sitting on his ass, who's to say he wouldn't have volunteered songs for the more risque products? don't stop me now would feature in viagra, that's "for sure" ;-) it's opinionated holier than thou-ism-ing. (*as if that's a word) I don't mind the commercials, but I DO think he would've preferred to make his own musical instead of the rehashed plot and moronic play that is WWRY. about the money ... we're talking about the man who dodgingly referred to his music as "disposable pop"... truth or humility, I think he would've cashed in. |
cmsdrums 23.11.2016 04:18 |
Jones makes me sick: She says: "Never admitted, until the final moment, that he was infected with HIV and dying of Aids." ADMITTED?? There's nothing to "admit".....never disclosed maybe, or stated, or mentioned, or announced...but NOT "admitted", as if it were something to be ashamed or guilty of. She really gets paid to write professionally yet she has no grasp of language? |
rocknrolllover 23.11.2016 06:33 |
Freddie started Smoking in the 70's, or is it the authors try to convince us in it? Who played young Mercury? |
matt z 23.11.2016 08:42 |
cmsdrums wrote: Jones makes me sick: She says: "Never admitted, until the final moment, that he was infected with HIV and dying of Aids." ADMITTED?? There's nothing to "admit".....never disclosed maybe, or stated, or mentioned, or announced...but NOT "admitted", as if it were something to be ashamed or guilty of. She really gets paid to write professionally yet she has no grasp of language?ah. didn't recognize the slip of the language and it's implications. If in tandem with "denial" then it's acceptable, but I'm not an English major. But I'm with you, it was a private matter. Admitting" smacks of guilt. Pretty unprofessional. just like the "articles" that ran last week suggesting that Roger 's PLANET ROCK interview said he'd be recording new music with Adam Lambert. it was implied he'd like to work on new music with Brian, but there was no direct Lambert correlation. Credible writing is harder to find, it's more like speculation, sensationalism and outright fabrications, or just including a dead celebrity name in your story to generate clicks. The whole "article" does read like one long convoluted run-on sentence. |
Costa86 23.11.2016 08:48 |
From Lesley-Ann Jones' Wikipedia article (link: "She hosts writing workshops for those stupid enough, such as the Open University, hotels in Cornwall, England, Margarita Retreat in the Algarve, Portugal and Micklethwaite". This is the same person who was charging £40 a pop I believe, a year or so ago, for people to take a ride on the London Eye with her while she told stories about Freddie... link. I did enjoy her book though. It was respectful and it showed she thought very highly of Freddie. As an aside, did anyone notice that Peter Freestone was selling tickets for almost AUD 400 (that's more than £230 / almost $300) in September 2016 in Australia for people to have dinner with him while they talked about Freddie (and a t-shirts and a book or something thrown in)? |
Sunshine 23.11.2016 09:39 |
I have seen it and I think it was a brave attempt. The visual detailing was at times very correct and precise. The way Freddie was drinking tea in bed for example and Freddie's clothing, style and looks were very accurate. Also the voice of the actor is very Freddie-like. It seems the budget was fully used on Freddie because the attempts to dress up the other members was laughable. Roger with an obvious wig. Very sad. The acting is sadly not on a great level. It's embarrassing to watch at times. |
Sunshine 23.11.2016 09:41 |
Costa86 wrote: From Lesley-Ann Jones' Wikipedia article (link: "She hosts writing workshops for those stupid enough, such as the Open University, hotels in Cornwall, England, Margarita Retreat in the Algarve, Portugal and Micklethwaite". This is the same person who was charging £40 a pop I believe, a year or so ago, for people to take a ride on the London Eye with her while she told stories about Freddie... link. I did enjoy her book though. It was respectful and it showed she thought very highly of Freddie. As an aside, did anyone notice that Peter Freestone was selling tickets for almost AUD 400 (that's more than £230 / almost $300) in September 2016 in Australia for people to have dinner with him while they talked about Freddie (and a t-shirts and a book or something thrown in)?Who the hell would want to pay for that? Peter was his friend, now is making money because of that friendship. It is not chic. Freddie would cringe. |
The Fonz 23.11.2016 23:15 |
Chinwonder2 wrote: For anyone who would like to download it (I dunno why, it's horrible) here you go! https://mega.nz/#!J0VThZBb!Owqpm6jGVnwWufQdTClmdmIxZAGO6q_bAfxM2sTbv9I -ChinThanks mate, much appreciated. The Fonz |
Chopin1995 24.11.2016 02:30 |
Check out Brian's reaction on that drama: link |
rocknrolllover 24.11.2016 03:17 |
Chopin1995 wrote: Check out Brian's reaction on that drama: linkA pretty restrained reaction on this . Wondering relatives will be sue the channel. |
Costa86 24.11.2016 04:38 |
There is a nice article about Freddie's cats in today's Daily Telegraph: link |
Doga 24.11.2016 06:36 |
Very nice article. Thanks for sharing, that made me my day :) |
Ken8 24.11.2016 06:41 |
matt z wrote: Freddie also loved wealth. ... if not wealth, let's call it "financial comfort". I doubt she's qualified to make that judgement for a dead man. It DOES make for showing her disgust, and perspective. If Freddie earned cash by sitting on his ass, who's to say he wouldn't have volunteered songs for the more risque products? don't stop me now would feature in viagra, that's "for sure" ;-) it's opinionated holier than thou-ism-ing. (*as if that's a word) I don't mind the commercials, but I DO think he would've preferred to make his own musical instead of the rehashed plot and moronic play that is WWRY. about the money ... we're talking about the man who dodgingly referred to his music as "disposable pop"... truth or humility, I think he would've cashed in. "I doubt she's qualified to make that judgement for a dead man." But you do? At least she knew the great man. You ever meet him? Your argument is based on a hypothetical "what if" as opposed to the reality of what they've done to the Queen brand name in his absence. Freddie did say "We're a rock band, not a Broadway musical", but I agree with you on one thing, WWRY is moronic. One thing is clear though, it's obvious I think Fred was/could have been more of a class act than you do "Seduce you with his money-make machine Cross-collateralize, (big-time money, money) Reduce you to a muzak-fake machine Then the last goodbye It's a rip-off" I wonder who wrote that? |
Vocal harmony 24.11.2016 09:27 |
Sunshine wrote: I have seen it and I think it was a brave attempt. The visual detailing was at times very correct and precise. The way Freddie was drinking tea in bed for example and Freddie's clothing,Those things were the easiest thing to replicate. It's easy enough to look at old photos and use them as a template to build a scene around. For instance Freddie drinking tea in bed, doesn't that appear as a photo in the Jim Hutton book. Clothing again is easy to copy. It's the more difficult things this failed on in every way. The script "darling", the story, the acting the bad choice of actors (in most cases),continuity. . . eg day light at 7pm in November. Maybe it should be released on DVD with canned laughter at inappropriate moments for full effect! |
AlbaNo1 24.11.2016 13:05 |
Ken8 wrote:My view is Queen balanced high commerce and high creativity for a while at their peak. The balance gradually shifted to commerce from early 80s with a minor shift back for Innuendo.matt z wrote: Freddie also loved wealth. ... if not wealth, let's call it "financial comfort". I doubt she's qualified to make that judgement for a dead man. It DOES make for showing her disgust, and perspective. If Freddie earned cash by sitting on his ass, who's to say he wouldn't have volunteered songs for the more risque products? don't stop me now would feature in viagra, that's "for sure" ;-) it's opinionated holier than thou-ism-ing. (*as if that's a word) I don't mind the commercials, but I DO think he would've preferred to make his own musical instead of the rehashed plot and moronic play that is WWRY. about the money ... we're talking about the man who dodgingly referred to his music as "disposable pop"... truth or humility, I think he would've cashed in."I doubt she's qualified to make that judgement for a dead man." But you do? At least she knew the great man. You ever meet him? Your argument is based on a hypothetical "what if" as opposed to the reality of what they've done to the Queen brand name in his absence. Freddie did say "We're a rock band, not a Broadway musical", but I agree with you on one thing, WWRY is moronic. One thing is clear though, it's obvious I think Fred was/could have been more of a class act than you do "Seduce you with his money-make machine Cross-collateralize, (big-time money, money) Reduce you to a muzak-fake machine Then the last goodbye It's a rip-off" I wonder who wrote that? I think Freddie would have taken the easy money for the most part and maybe done something more interesting and creative every few years. Or maybe even have retired. |
Ken8 27.11.2016 19:12 |
AlbaNo1 wrote: I think Freddie would have taken the easy money for the most part and maybe done something more interesting and creative every few years. Or maybe even have retired.Sadly, none of us will ever know for sure. I still think he would've been more "classy" but I think one thing's certain, being such a private person I'm not sure he would've been too keen on this program |
matt z 28.11.2016 22:33 |
Seduce you with his money-make machine Cross-collateralize, (big-time money, money) Reduce you to a muzak-fake machine Then the last goodbye It's a rip-off" I wonder who wrote that? .. young and hungry Freddie. he toyed around with the idea of his music just being disposable pop, but most would tell otherwise. I'm not saying I'm qualified either. I thought it was quite clear that the thing is: NOBODY KNOWS if he'd cash in. hell, even Pete Townsend's cashed in a few times. it's just something that never came up, songs weren't marketed that way at the time; JINGLES WERE MADE. given adult Freddie's public perspective (*sourced from interviews) it seemed that he might not give a flying fuck, as long as it kept the songs in the public forum. **( and incidentally sold more cds/downloads) I don't think he'd sit on it and call it a day. Given the resurgence of animated films with HUGE musical content, I'm certain he would've given a shot at something like that had he survived. anyways it's all much speculation. her comments are simply her opinions. Freddie's dead - Curtis Mayfield |
The Real Wizard 29.11.2016 12:24 |
Very astute observation ! Of course there's the possibility that his viewpoint changed over the course of a decade, and that he really did reduce his art to disposable. Considering he went from Bohemian Rhapsody to Body Language in seven years, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch. And if that's the case, I bet he wasn't feeling that way by 1987. |
Silken 01.12.2016 08:40 |
I watched 8 minutes and I had to stop because it was cringeworthy. Another fan told me that it wasn't that bad, that I should keep on watching. I tried but I only managed to endure another 15 minutes. I'm not interested in ridiculous (and inaccurate) reenactments of Freddie's private life. The guy looks and sounds a lot like him, though. |
maths15 02.12.2016 13:06 |
Holly2003 wrote: You all have no taste. It was brilliant. I particularly liked the guy who played Brian May, despite looking to be about 5 foot 7 inches tall. I also wasn't aware Brian played an Epiphone Les Paul with Bigsby tremolo system at Live Aid. Glad they set the record straight on that one.I agree, It was fucking great. I loved Deacon's bright orange fright wig. |
john bodega 07.12.2016 05:09 |
meh, dildos. |
The Fonz 21.05.2017 17:02 |
The Fonz wrote:Fonzie finally saw it over the weekend, and thoroughly enjoyed it. Top marks for pretend Fred.Chinwonder2 wrote: For anyone who would like to download it (I dunno why, it's horrible) here you go! https://mega.nz/#!J0VThZBb!Owqpm6jGVnwWufQdTClmdmIxZAGO6q_bAfxM2sTbv9I -ChinThanks mate, much appreciated. The Fonz |
Mr.Michael 04.08.2017 13:21 |
This really wasn't that bad. I thought it had some good points in it and you have to give the guy who played Freddie a lot of credit. That's really not an easy acting gig. Supersonic_Man89 wrote an excellent "review" and he's spot on about many things. -Why is Freddie constantly going "Deedoh, Deedoh" backstage? -And what is this "Darling"-thing? I recently saw an interview with George Michaels former partner, Kenny Goss, and when he quoted George, every sentence had "Darling" in it. Is "Darling" supposed to be some kind of superword for gays? -Freddies Live Aid-jeans were funny. The only jeans he wore? But maybe there's some truth in that! Check out the first ever footage from Freddie when he and his friends shot that video in 1964. You could almost argue he was already wearing his Live Aid-jeans! My favourite parts of the biopic was when Freddie was concerned. -When he and Jim saw that Rock Hudson had died Freddie looked very concerned in front of the TV. His anxious looks towards Jim were brilliant. -Freddie was very nervous in the doctor's office. You could say he looked extremely concerned. -When he saw the first KS on his shoulder and washes his hands because it's bleeding. He's not really concerned, he's actually panicking. -The last show in Knebworth. Freddie is feeling it and he's looking quite concerned in the mirror before the show and after the show he's tired and apparently still a bit concerned. -His friend from New York comes to visit him and tells about his own illness. While Freddie listens and comforts him he looks pretty concerned. The cock-quote is actually pretty funny. By the way, I thought Queen and Freddie's family didn't approve of this documentary. How did they get the permit to use their music and video clips? |
cmsdrums 04.08.2017 13:26 |
Mr.Michael wrote: This really wasn't that bad. YES IT WAS -Why is Freddie constantly going "Deedoh, Deedoh" backstage? VOCAL WARM UPS --Freddies Live Aid-jeans were funny. NO THEY WEREN'T The only jeans he wore? NO My favourite parts of the biopic was when Freddie was concerned. -When he and Jim saw that Rock Hudson had died Freddie looked very concerned in front of the TV. His anxious looks towards Jim were brilliant. -Freddie was very nervous in the doctor's office. You could say he looked extremely concerned. -When he saw the first KS on his shoulder and washes his hands because it's bleeding. He's not really concerned, he's actually panicking. -The last show in Knebworth. Freddie is feeling it and he's looking quite concerned in the mirror before the show and after the show he's tired and apparently still a bit concerned. -His friend from New York comes to visit him and tells about his own illness. While Freddie listens and comforts him he looks pretty concerned. YOU DO REALISE THOSE SCENARIOS (CERTAINLY THE REACTIONS BY FREDDIE) ARE ALL MADE UP/SUPPOSED/POETIC LICENCE?? . |
Mr.Michael 04.08.2017 13:34 |
All made up and poetic license? Well, you could have knocked me over with a feather. And this whole time I thought it was really how Freddie reacted in those situations. But then again, maybe Freddie's reaction was totally different when he saw Rock Hudson's death on the telly? "Well darlings, that faggot got what he deserved". |
Invisible Woman 06.08.2017 09:56 |
I watched this a few months ago on You Tube, on the one hand I like it and on the other not. Band members seem is ridiculous, they could have better haircuts.:D The story of his illness is based on the writing of tabloids as it seems to me, that I don't like. |
Dr Magus 06.08.2017 10:43 |
The new Queen movie will put the truth out there, such as how Freddie's live aid performance was inspired by watching Paul Rodgers videos in the backstage area beforehand. |
Laeli 18.08.2017 02:38 |
meh, hopefully the real Queen film won't be half as bad |
LOTV 18.08.2017 09:42 |
Laeli wrote: meh, hopefully the real Queen film won't be half as badDon't hold your breath. |
Mr.Michael 22.07.2018 13:05 |
Wasn't this a Channel Five "documentary"? Now, there's one about George Michael, called The Double Life of George Michael. It's pretty much the same stuff as the docu about Freddie. A couple of different actors playing George, and well, it looks ridiculous. They got some serious mistakes. Young pre-Wham George in about 1981 had a Human League poster in his room and the picture was from 1986. In some scenes the "Older-era George was living in 1991 and then the "Faith"-era George was grieving his lover in 1993. And they even had the wrong pictures showing George's lover Anselmo. I mean, that is really some weak crap. The Freddie docu was more accurate. Even though I have to say that "George" had the sams problem as "Freddie". For some reason, the always wear the same jeans and shirts in every scene. And it's a huge surprise that Lesley-Ann Jones and Paul Gambaccini appear in this document. Do they ever say no to anything? |
FunLovinCriminal 23.07.2018 21:51 |