QueenZone discussion #1460955
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| brandywine 08.11.2016 21:30 |
Hello all, I'm currently watching the election here in the US, quite a miserable affair that made me joke about the this track in relation to it. Got me thinking however... Its a really well recorded track with some very interesting highs and lows. Maybe this has been asked before but I'm curious to know if this song was played live or not. It would seem me that this tune would be a great live number for every member of the band. I'd love to hear any thoughts, thanks guys. |
| Sebastian 08.11.2016 22:53 |
There's no evidence of this song ever having been played live. That said, we haven't heard every single Queen concert ever, so it could still be theoretically possible (though still highly unlikely) for them to have tried it out once at some obscure location and then never again. |
| matt z 09.11.2016 01:11 |
I can't believe the "living hand to mouth" south would elect this piece of shit fraud, it's embarrassing. people are so dumb. yes, one is a lifetime politician and on paper a crook; but it's still far better to have an effective person versed in the field than someone without |
| Biggus Dickus 09.11.2016 01:54 |
Congratulations America, you got what you ordered. :D |
| Saint Jiub 09.11.2016 02:18 |
matt z wrote: I can't believe the "living hand to mouth" south would elect this piece of shit fraud, it's embarrassing. people are so dumb. yes, one is a lifetime politician and on paper a crook; but it's still far better to have an effective person versed in the field than someone without ... Did the "southern" trolls below the Mackinac Bridge vote for Trump? |
| Mr. Bed Guy 09.11.2016 06:09 |
Like the US now, Britains did the same brainless vote with the Brexit. So it seems polemic reaches its goals possibly in every country even if it's been unbelievable for ages. America, land of the unfree.... but ordering cds in US will become much cheaper now for us... |
| master marathon runner 09.11.2016 06:13 |
"Big bad caused a mighty fine sensation, gone and got himself elected president.............' |
| coops 09.11.2016 06:38 |
Going to be playing this a lot over the next few days at least. My wife and I ( and lots of others) are about to lose a small fortune in the stock market and have our retirement date pushed back a few years. Better hold off on the vinyl box set. |
| Costa86 09.11.2016 08:52 |
You know your country is in the shit when it elects a racist orangutan as its president. The chants of "USA! USA! USA!", by the redneck hicks to Trump's first speech since being elected, just bolstered this point. But at least Putin is happy. The Russian bear is content. |
| RS_Protos 09.11.2016 10:21 |
He needed(and got) votes other than hicks, or he wouldn't have won. Hillary's establishment, all the media, and I mean all the media here, etc, didn't save her, shows how people are fed up. Dem and Reps have done nothing for the middle class over the last 30 years, actually made it worse, so the people here wanted someone that a least heard them. I'm not saying he will but at least he says the right things for the middle class. |
| Sheldon 09.11.2016 10:37 |
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| Sheldon 09.11.2016 10:37 |
The Democrats fucked this up themselves. Anyone else than Killary would have beaten Trump. |
| Sheldon 09.11.2016 10:37 |
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| RS_Protos 09.11.2016 11:27 |
Totally agree |
| Graeme Arnott 10.11.2016 01:00 |
That's democracy, sometimes it works for the good sometimes not so, only time will tell. Mr Bed Guy Brexit was not brainless, an awful lot of people gave it a lot of thought and decided we wanted to govern ourselves and not be dictated to by Brussels. |
| Michael Scapp 10.11.2016 10:52 |
I don't see what the hell is so wrong with Brexit. What is so noble about going down with a sinking ship that you were forced to board in the first place? While Trump is far from my first choice, it is far better than continuing Obama's policies. Just look up Seth Rich in the news. Plus I rather have hicks choose the new leaders rather than the always corrupt and brainless progressive liberals. |
| RS_Protos 10.11.2016 11:50 |
Agree with both points Michael. The liberals are in mourning, they cant stop crying, in denial...........LOL They can't handle a loss. The colleges are offering special classes today to help them with there loss, not kidding, what a bunch of spoiled brats |
| Oscar J 10.11.2016 12:06 |
The late Richard Rorty, important american philosopher, foresaw this happening in 1997: "Members of labor unions, and unorganized unskilled workers, will sooner or later realize that their government is not even trying to prevent wages from sinking or to prevent jobs from being exported. Around the same time, they will realize that suburban white-collar workers—themselves desperately afraid of being downsized—are not going to let themselves be taxed to provide social benefits for anyone else. At that point, something will crack. The nonsuburban electorate will decide that the system has failed and start looking around for a strongman to vote for—someone willing to assure them that, once he is elected, the smug bureaucrats, tricky lawyers, overpaid bond salesmen, and postmodernist professors will no longer be calling the shots…. One thing that is very likely to happen is that the gains made in the past forty years by black and brown Americans, and by homosexuals, will be wiped out. Jocular contempt for women will come back into fashion…. All the resentment which badly educated Americans feel about having their manners dictated to them by college graduates will find an outlet. " |
| The Ghost of Lester Burnham 10.11.2016 19:41 |
RS_Protos wrote: Agree with both points Michael. The liberals are in mourning, they cant stop crying, in denial...........LOL They can't handle a loss. The colleges are offering special classes today to help them with there loss, not kidding, what a bunch of spoiled bratsConsidering all the awful things that Trump wants to do to minorities, LGBTQIA people, and women, you really should reconsider your ignorant statement. This isn't like when Bush was re-elected in '04 and people were moping around, complaining that their milquetoast candidate (Kerry) didn't get in. Trump's rhetoric and the actions of his supporters, in one day since he became the President-Elect, have spoken volumes that all men are most definitely not created equally: link This isn't a liberal vs conservative thing, a red state vs blue state thing, a Democrat vs Republican thing, a country bumpkin vs a city slicker thing. It's a love vs hate situation, and Trump and his supporters have made it clear that they have no interest in including everyone – only heterosexual white Christian Americans who irrationally fear that the durrty furreigners are gonna take their jobs. Spoiled brats? Nah. They're legitimately and rightfully fearful for what Trump will do to unravel decades worth of work for civil and human rights. |
| The Ghost of Lester Burnham 10.11.2016 19:43 |
Biggus Dickus wrote: Congratulations America, you got what you ordered. :DNo we didn't. The popular vote was for Hillary. She won by 1%, and almost half the nation didn't vote. Less than a quarter of America got what they ordered thanks to an antiquated electoral process that was originally created to give white landowners more power in elections. |
| BETA215 10.11.2016 21:23 |
^ Even us, in Argentina, changed that stupid law in the 90s. I don't know why you never changed it, it's so bad for the country. EDIT: Actually, I think it was deleted from the first constitution. |
| Saint Jiub 11.11.2016 00:34 |
The view from down under ... link link |
| Saint Jiub 11.11.2016 00:52 |
Video of Trump voter being beaten ... link |
| The Ghost of Lester Burnham 11.11.2016 06:55 |
Panchgani wrote: The view from down under ... link linkPaywall. Panchgani wrote: Video of Trump voter being beaten ... linkOkay? I saw that and was horrified, and I saw that somewhere else (California, I think?) that a girl was also harassed for allegedly voting Trump. It doesn't make any of it okay, but the truth of the matter is that Trump has fed into people's basic, primal fears of anyone who isn't white or straight, and now his supporters have already shown that they want no part of a unified America. They want it to be pure white. Trump spoke (uncharacteristically) on Wednesday of unifying America, and yet for the past 18 months he's spoken about how it's okay to beat people up for being different – he'll just pay their legal bills. |
| RS_Protos 11.11.2016 07:44 |
Oh please, don't start with the racist labeling Trump won because the middle class is fed up, jobs, economy, not because of racism. The middle class is paying for everything and yet they still dont realize that one day that money will run out when all the jobs are gone. That's why they are angry and voted for Trump, not because they want to go backwards regarding rights etc Talking about illegals and the law/rules does not make someone a racist. Just like i dealt with Obama for 8 years now you deal with Trump or go protest, it's your right. |
| The Ghost of Lester Burnham 11.11.2016 08:53 |
RS_Protos wrote: Oh please, don't start with the racist labelingLook at the link I posted, where Trump supporters are literally spewing racist, hateful things at people who aren't white. You dealt with Obama for 8 years. How is your life worse off now than it was 8 years ago? Genuinely curious. |
| Saint Jiub 11.11.2016 10:55 |
The Ghost of Lester Burnham wrote:RS_Protos wrote: Oh please, don't start with the racist labelingLook at the link I posted, where Trump supporters are literally spewing racist, hateful things at people who aren't white. You dealt with Obama for 8 years. How is your life worse off now than it was 8 years ago? Genuinely curious. ... Obamacare. Because the average age of the company I work for is in the mid-fifties the rates are sky high. Because our rates are so high, Obama designates our insurance plan as a Cadillac plan and imposes hefty financial penalties. The reason Trump won is because Hilary is so corrupt, not because the vast majority of Trump voters are a basket of deplorables. |
| The Ghost of Lester Burnham 11.11.2016 11:12 |
Panchgani wrote:If you think Hillary is corrupt, then you're in for a big surprise with Trump. If you're surprised that Hillary is corrupt, then you're not paying attention to any of the politicians, especially the ones Trump has now associated himself with. (Oh yeah, "draining the swamp" – and now he's bringing in Gingrich, Guiliani, Carson, and Myron Ebell. Such political outsiders!) Look at Trump's track record. Look at his failed businesses. Look at the bevy of lawsuits that are stacking up against him now. And now, the oppressed straight whites across middle America are taking his rhetoric and are making it clear that non-white, LEGAL Americans are foreigners in their own country.The Ghost of Lester Burnham wrote:... Obamacare. Because the average age of the company I work for is in the mid-fifties the rates are sky high. Because our rates are so high, Obama designates our insurance plan as a Cadillac plan and imposes hefty financial penalties. The reason Trump won is because Hilary is so corrupt, not because the vast majority of Trump voters are a basket of deplorables.RS_Protos wrote: Oh please, don't start with the racist labelingLook at the link I posted, where Trump supporters are literally spewing racist, hateful things at people who aren't white. You dealt with Obama for 8 years. How is your life worse off now than it was 8 years ago? Genuinely curious. I wasn't thrilled to vote for Hillary, even though she's been training for this her entire life. But I voted for what she believed in, not necessarily the person. Trump is going to undo all the civil and human rights that have been hard-fought over the past few decades. But hey, enjoy your cheaper healthcare. |
| RS_Protos 11.11.2016 11:19 |
Agree 100%, same here, paying a lot more for insurance and seems a lot less coverage. Raises these days seems non existent, for years, not blaming obama but i have seen nothing to help over the years. In my opinion if Hilary won it would have been the same, nothing for the middle working class but pay more and more. |
| Saint Jiub 11.11.2016 13:33 |
The Ghost of Lester Burnham wrote:Panchgani wrote:And now, the oppressed straight whites across middle America are taking his rhetoric and are making it clear that non-white, LEGAL Americans are foreigners in their own country.The Ghost of Lester Burnham wrote: Trump is going to undo all the civil and human rights that have been hard-fought over the past few decades. .... Such drama and hysteria ... Is the sky falling too? link Clinton is the ultimate insider and chameleon whose views change at the whims of the polls. Her "debts" to foreign nations via the Clinton Foundation, labor unions, ambulance chasers and Wall Street fortunately will not be paid. Trump is an outsider that does not even have the support of the Republican party. Very little of what he supposedly wants will get through Congress. Maybe he will be able to reinstate slavery if he gets re-elected (sarcasm). |
| RS_Protos 11.11.2016 14:36 |
He is NOT going to undo all the civil and human rights that have been hard-fought over the past few decades, that all excuses, when did he say that? But i hope to at least undo all the plans they signed over the past few decades that took away jobs from this country, at least he talked about, no other candidates did. |
| The Ghost of Lester Burnham 11.11.2016 14:44 |
Panchgani wrote:No use in discussing this anymore with you – we're not going to change each others' minds. (The slavery comment, by the way, is ignorant and completely uncalled for.) Also, the New York Post is not at all a credible paper, so you've destroyed whatever tenuous credibility you may have held prior to our discussion. You might as well have posted something from the National Enquirer. This isn't a "oh wah my side didn't get chosen" argument, yet you keep making it about that. I wonder if you'll ever see why people are so upset.The Ghost of Lester Burnham wrote:Panchgani wrote:And now, the oppressed straight whites across middle America are taking his rhetoric and are making it clear that non-white, LEGAL Americans are foreigners in their own country.The Ghost of Lester Burnham wrote:Trump is going to undo all the civil and human rights that have been hard-fought over the past few decades..... Such drama and hysteria ... Is the sky falling too? link Clinton is the ultimate insider and chameleon whose views change at the whims of the polls. Her "debts" to foreign nations via the Clinton Foundation, labor unions, ambulance chasers and Wall Street fortunately will not be paid. Trump is an outsider that does not even have the support of the Republican party. Very little of what he supposedly wants will get through Congress. Maybe he will be able to reinstate slavery if he gets re-elected (sarcasm). For the record, my mom was diagnosed with Stage 2 breast cancer last year. She hadn't had healthcare for decades, because, as a contract worker, she couldn't get insurance without a full-time job. (Don't even ask why she couldn't get a full-time job. Her job security was destroyed during Bush's time in office.) But last year, she enrolled for the ACA, and was able to have a mastectomy, saving her life. She's been happy and healthy since then, until Tuesday when her hopes of having consistent healthcare were crushed – because Trump is going to repeal the ACA. She now doesn't know what she's going to do. I hope to be wrong about Trump. I hope he does everything for the good of all Americans, regardless of age, race, religion, gender, or identity. So far, it doesn't look promising. But keep covering your ears and your eyes when citizens are being persecuted for not being white or straight. I certainly won't. |
| mike hunt 12.11.2016 14:58 |
another liberal cry baby! Obama was a terrible president, terrorism is on an all time high, the economy is terrible, the country is billions in debt. that's how Obama has done for our country. hillery would have been Obama part 2...no one could predict how Trump will do, but he is a good business man, hopefully could get out us out of debt and improve the economy. We also need a tough, no nonsense leader. we'll see how this all plays out. We won't know for a couple of years. Obama left us with a mess, it will take time to dig ourselves out of it. let's talk in 2 years... |
| Oscar J 12.11.2016 16:54 |
Terrorism is on an all time LOW in the USA. Get a clue!  adult image sharing The country's debt isn't in billions, it's in trillions. While your sentiment is right, it sort of implies that you don't quite know what you're talking about. The debt ins't really Obama's fault. He did pretty much halve the unemployment rate though.  pic host Trump is a bad and horribly unethical business man, it's hilarious to see people still believing otherwise. He isn't tough, because he gets incredibly offended when he is criticised, and he is all about nonsense - about two thirds of what he says is complete nonsense (check out the stats here: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/). Oh, and he is now about to "end the war on coal" and accelerate global warming, because apparently 97 % of the worlds climate scientists are "driven by radical political agendas". link The ignorance. It's tragicomic. |
| mike hunt 12.11.2016 17:27 |
I never said I was a politics expert, but I live in New York and things have never been worse.. Bush was a lousy president as well, we need change! the Clintons have run their course. Maybe Trump could turn things around, if he's a horrible president (can't be much worse than Obama/Clinton and Bush) we Vote him out. Obama was suppose to unite the country, but he only made things worse. He let the Black lives matter movement destroy cities, like it's ok to kill Cops. BLM protest when a White Cop kills a black man (even if the black man was armed and had 20 arrests in his history) but when Blacks kill Blacks, no protests?....the highest crime rate is black on black crime, they need to clean their own house before crying racism. Don't be a hump and root for Trump! |
| Oscar J 12.11.2016 19:18 |
I think the saying is hump the Trump :) |
| Shuler266 13.11.2016 17:09 |
Rarely do I respond to misconceptions about my Southern heritage. After reading some of these comments, I wonder how some of you know so much about a person like me. Hicks? Hillbillys? Poor and uneducated? Wow. I am from the Appalachian Mountains of North Carolina. The Deep South. I am none of those things. Yes, the Southern states voted for Donald Trump. We support gun rights, rely heavily on The King James Bible and we do not support abortion. Casting a vote for Clinton went against every belief the southern states hold. Do I have an accent? Yes I do. But so do most of you. Do I hate gay people and African Americans? No I don't. I have rarely posted in this group but I am a fan of Queen. I read some of these comments and thought wow, now I know what Freddie Mercury must have felt like. |
| Oscar J 14.11.2016 02:13 |
Trumps biggest supporters are white males with low education. That's not really an insult, it's a fact. The name calling is unnecessary though, I agree. Were people expecting a pat on the back for electing him as a president, then? With no good reason voting for him other than that Clinton might have taken your guns? It is your right to vote for your candidate, but it's not a right to be immune from criticism. |
| Shuler266 14.11.2016 07:44 |
Gun rights was not the only reason Trump was elected. It was the one you singled out. I don't expect to be free of criticism. The majority of Americans got tired of Clinton corruption backed by Obama. The democrats backed the BLM movement as they slaughtered American cops in the streets. The Southern states stick to conservative candidates. I could care less if people criticize how I voted. But stick to my vote and not the fact that I am Sourhern followed by insults to my heritage. #winning |
| Oscar J 14.11.2016 11:03 |
"The Southern states stick to conservative candidates". Fascinating how you are seemingly unable to form individual opinions. Voting Trump because "that's what we southerners have always done", not bothered the slightest by his view on global warming (which I guess you might not believe in due to your heritage), on women, on other ethnic groups, on disabled people. But I guess those few mean black people were more important than a global environmental catastrophy eh? I'm not sure the misconceptions you were complaining about actually were misconceptions. |
| Shuler266 14.11.2016 15:22 |
Not debating this anymore in a queenzone forum. I don't know if you're American or just having an opinion to have one. If your American you need to go find your "safe space" and suck it up. You lost. If you're not, then you don't have a dog in the fight and your opinion doesn't matter. How's that for a little Southern hospitality? Checkmate. Now move along. |
| AlbaNo1 14.11.2016 15:37 |
The south will rise again |
| Oscar J 14.11.2016 15:56 |
I love how you feel like you've automatically won an argument when you write things like #winning and "Checkmate" at the end. I'm Swedish by the way. And this election concerns all of us. At 21, I'm in the generation that has to deal with the consequences of Trump's climate politics. |
| Shuler266 14.11.2016 16:20 |
Are you freaking kidding! U been able to vote since yesterday and u think u have the ability to debate American politics with me? By no means am I old but I didn't just turn off Sesame Street for a nap either! Drop this. Ur not qualified to debate me or anybody else here. Go find ur sippy cup and lay down |
| Shuler266 14.11.2016 16:24 |
Are you freaking kidding! U been able to vote since yesterday and u think u have the ability to debate American politics with me? By no means am I old but I didn't just turn off Sesame Street for a nap either! Drop this. Ur not qualified to debate me or anybody else here. Go find ur sippy cup and lay down |
| Chief Mouse 14.11.2016 16:27 |
Sometimes we just have to accept that others won't change their views no matter what. So I find the bickering pointless. Anyway, moving on. |
| Oscar J 14.11.2016 18:28 |
Shuler266 wrote: Are you freaking kidding! U been able to vote since yesterday and u think u have the ability to debate American politics with me? By no means am I old but I didn't just turn off Sesame Street for a nap either! Drop this. Ur not qualified to debate me or anybody else here. Go find ur sippy cup and lay down Third year design engineering student at Uni, so Sesame Street only during holidays these days. I don't see why I'm any less qualified to debate politics and the future of our planet than someone who votes for Trump mainly because "that's what Southerners do". In facts it's you who are completely unable to stay on topic and have to resort to the ad hominems. But Chief Mouse is right. |
| Sebastian 15.11.2016 05:19 |
Why is this on 'Queen General Discussion' instead of 'Personal'? |
| Sebastian 15.11.2016 05:19 |
Why is this on 'Queen General Discussion' instead of 'Personal'? |
| Thistle 15.11.2016 08:01 |
I can sum the whole thing up quite succinctly. Trump is a cunt. Clinton is a cunt. Some clever cunts voted for Trump, as did some dumb cunts. Ditto with that cunt Clinton. At the end of the day, a cunt was going to become president. Conclusion? I like the word cunt. |
| Holly2003 15.11.2016 08:18 |
Michelle Obama is an ape in heels, according to these 'good ol' boys': link |
| AlbaNo1 15.11.2016 15:39 |
Wasn't boys that made the comment |
| mike hunt 15.11.2016 20:54 |
Shuler266 wrote: Are you freaking kidding! U been able to vote since yesterday and u think u have the ability to debate American politics with me? By no means am I old but I didn't just turn off Sesame Street for a nap either! Drop this. Ur not qualified to debate me or anybody else here. Go find ur sippy cup and lay downyou're the man! these college age cry babies think they know it all. these spoiled brats are still protesting and crying. We'll see how Trump does, give the guy a chance to prove himself. We already know Clintion is corrupt. |
| BETA215 15.11.2016 22:35 |
This thread is so meaningless that my existence seems to have a very big meaning LOL |
| ludwigs 16.11.2016 02:06 |
The 2 12string guitars that do that Dm7 chord are really what makes this such a memorable song...... |
| Oscar J 16.11.2016 06:59 |
mike hunt wrote:Shuler266 wrote: Are you freaking kidding! U been able to vote since yesterday and u think u have the ability to debate American politics with me? By no means am I old but I didn't just turn off Sesame Street for a nap either! Drop this. Ur not qualified to debate me or anybody else here. Go find ur sippy cup and lay downyou're the man! these college age cry babies think they know it all. these spoiled brats are still protesting and crying. We'll see how Trump does, give the guy a chance to prove himself. We already know Clintion is corrupt. Yeah, keep patting each others backs and call me names instead of actually discussing the matter. Oh, and Trump is way more corrupt than Clinton. The song isn't their best - neither the arrangement or the lyrics. The production saves it in my opinion - it would have been dreadful on "Jazz" for example. |