| Benn Kempster 24.10.2016 14:00 |
Greg, re: >> I'm merely saying that the interviews at the convention, particularly the most recent one, invariably cover some very serious and significant Queen history - such as Freddie's last ever vocal sessions, and that's not being even mentioned on QZ, much less debated or analysed like everything else usually would be, whereas random speculation such as whether Freddie was autistic or not is deemed to be MORE thread/post-worthy. And, of COURSE, you're absolutely right. There's more crap on here than the entire length of The Ganges could sustain and, as much as I like the nature of the lack of moderation here and have personally 'benefited' from it in the past, I'm constantly staggered at the number of posts that are nothing more than a waste of keystrokes and the kinetic energy used to generate them. What would be of MASSIVE value to everyone here, I'm absolutely certain, would be if you could contribute a few really good fact pieces every now and then. Maybe an Archivist's Blog or "Here's Something You Didn't Know" section containing snippets of information or transcripts of discussions you illustrated in an other thread. All designed to benefit and educate. Sure, your usual suspects will do all they can to derail the threads and turn them in to something that they're not meant to be, but if we can get enough interest in them and the disruptive elements are ignored, we could start to get some absolutely cracking stuff back up on here again. I'd be more than happy to help collate, edit etc and would like to think that there would be a core of people here willing to assist in making this place a bit better than it has become over recent times. Maybe it'll engage YOU a bit more Greg; separating the wheat from the chaff in the time honored tradition of sending people to Coventry....... Your thoughts? |
| Sebastian 24.10.2016 15:00 |
Yes, yes, yes! I totally second that. It would be fascinating. Hopefully, we'll have Greg's reply soon(er or later). |
| scottmax 24.10.2016 15:14 |
I agree.... maybe it'd go a little way to building bridges with the fans they're quick to isolate? |
| musicland munich 24.10.2016 19:37 |
I would like to see that. There should be enough facts, rumors and anecdotes to discuss about. Queen's little "split up" when Brian left the Band during summer 75'for example. |
| Jimmy Dean 25.10.2016 04:30 |
Or the often rumoured duet cover of Rihanna's Umbrella by Freddie and Brian. When will that ever surface? |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 25.10.2016 04:57 |
I wouldn't buy that. They're more like the Rain Must Fall kind of guys. Cheers, Ogre- |
| Togg 25.10.2016 10:11 |
Yep, sounds like a plan to me.... fingers crossed |
| musicland munich 25.10.2016 10:30 |
Jimmy Dean wrote: Or the often rumoured duet cover of Rihanna's Umbrella by Freddie and Brian. When will that ever surface?Actually my post wasn't intend to be a joke ;) |
| kosimodo 25.10.2016 13:58 |
Hmmm, a næog with snippets without " property of queenproductions" |
| GB: Queen Archivist 27.10.2016 10:46 |
Hello Benn and All (those who are interested anyway!!!) It's difficult to reply to this honestly, without sounding churlish, bitter, resentful or antagonistic, or any number of other such things that I've been accused of being on QZ at various times... but I'll give it a go. I'm generally damned if I do and damned if I don't on QZ, and indeed damned just for the sake of being damned. It's not an ideal start-point for the kind of situation you're describing we aim for, is it? So, in no particular order... when I first started contributing to QZ I usually did so in a calm, considered, friendly, open, candid and respectful way. Sarcastic too sometimes, when it called for it, yes, but that is my way. However, several QZers were very far from respectful in return and often took pleasure in being insulting. Probably wrongly, my reaction to that was to give back exactly the same as I received. Nothing more, nothing less. Being insulted on QZ, or indeed having my life threatened, honestly never upset me. I laughed it off as "just rantings on a forum from some anonymous mad people'. It did irritate me sometimes, of course, and certain ignorant comments on here would get my back up occasionally - as intended. But mostly I scrolled past all the crap and read only the good things. Plus... I simply don't have time to read it ALL. But... there are some great people here too, and some fans that are genuinely interested in what I can impart, so for their sake I soldiered on, putting up with some SERIOUSLY tedious and ignorant and insulting people on here. I confess that sometimes it amused me to make the odd person furious simply by giving back the same kind of grief that they gave me. I remember stating on here a few years ago, 'Some people can dish it out, but cannot take it back.' That is still true. So.... when all said and done... whatever I write here, however I offer it, and moreover however amenable and generous I try to be with what I can offer (bearing in mind I have to be careful about EVERY sentence I write, because I respect my employers' privacy and business interests, as well as my own job and future)... I always get some very annoying persons picking it all apart and taking the piss, and being nasty or vindictive, for no other reason than they don't like me (having never actually met me I might add) and simply for the sake of having a pop at the whole Queen 'machine' thru me. Can you imagine how tedious that is? Constructive comment is great. Fine. I respect and welcome that. But most times, with the majority of the posts/replies I provoke, I get uninformed idiots being aggressive and with little or nothing genuinely relevant to offer. A lot of them also know nothing or very little about Queen, so I wonder why they are here at all wasting your time and mine. In that situation, I ask you, who would put themselves up for more and more of it? It would be simply too wearing to be here among that kind of feeling for very long. Hence I nip off for a few months, come back for a fortnight or so, then nip off again. I cannot stay around here like you guys do. I'd go mad. I don't think I could commit to a regular 'spot' here, because while I know there would also be some very good and productive and friendly well-intended comments and suggestions, and I'd offer some interesting things along the way too.... all the other nonsense precludes me from going there. To tell the truth, I'd rather go and cut my grass at home... and I hate that job. But at least there's a nice end-result to that. Your last sentence is well put, but honestly, and NOT wanting to sound arrogant, I don't want to engage a lot of the annoying people here, nor be engaged by them. Not remotely. And I realise that's unfortunate for all the genuinely nice people. All of you SENSIBLE respectful QZ-ers should set up your own forum and not permit the negative moaning draining wearisome plebs to join it. I know that's segregation... but in this instance it'd be worth the hassle so that we could indeed enjoy the kind of eloquent interaction you describe - without the moronic distractions that inevitably plague each decent and well-meant posting. It's a nice thought, Benn, but not practical here... as you will very very soon see from some of the replies these comments will undoubtedly provoke. You can see what I'm up against 80% of the time. Regards GB |
| GB: Queen Archivist 27.10.2016 10:52 |
I just read the above comments back to myself, and I agree wholeheartedly with myself. |
| RS_Protos 27.10.2016 13:15 |
I agree with one thing 100 percent, " I'd rather go and cut my grass at home.." too. Damn I hate to be negative but the last few years my interest in Queen(over 35 years) is going down fast. The last 20 years i was hoping for more rare material releases but for me it's crap, sorry. I'm not saying it's GB's fault either. I just had enough of the whole Q machine and there games. i hate to say it to all the long time fans here but they need to understand that the run around garbage talk will never end from the Q machine. They know exactly what the old fans want by now and it's not a monopoly game, I guarantee you that. |
| RS_Protos 27.10.2016 13:16 |
"I just read the above comments back to myself, and I agree wholeheartedly with myself. " same here |
| que.123 27.10.2016 13:42 |
RS_Protos wrote: I agree with one thing 100 percent, " I'd rather go and cut my grass at home.." too. Damn I hate to be negative but the last few years my interest in Queen(over 35 years) is going down fast. The last 20 years i was hoping for more rare material releases but for me it's crap, sorry. I'm not saying it's GB's fault either. I just had enough of the whole Q machine and there games. i hate to say it to all the long time fans here but they need to understand that the run around garbage talk will never end from the Q machine. They know exactly what the old fans want by now and it's not a monopoly game, I guarantee you that.I just read the above comments back to myself, and I agree wholeheartedly with RS_Protos! (I enjoyed the Rainbow release but apart from that there has been meagre pickings - Queen fan for over 40 years). |
| . 27.10.2016 14:45 |
I read all these posts and wondered why I didn't cut my grass instead. |
| . 27.10.2016 14:45 |
My wife just read my comment and agrees wholeheartedly. |
| mooghead 27.10.2016 14:51 |
Greg Brooks is alright. I still believe a lot of the reticence is jealousy (he has had access to all the master tapes and met all the members and has the job we would all give our left nut for...). He has no say in what Queen release. Stop using him as a conduit. |
| RS_Protos 27.10.2016 15:47 |
Jealous?: Absolutely not, trust me, i'm old enough to know and appreciate things that really matter. Blame him? Absolutely not. "Stop using him as a conduit.": sometimes reading his comments I wonder who is using who |
| mooghead 27.10.2016 15:58 |
Dear Mr RS_Protos, QPL would like to pay you £xxxxxx a year to plunder the archives and have no responsibility for the subsequent output. Yes or no? |
| Sebastian 27.10.2016 16:21 |
I think he's got a magnificent job but it would ridiculously petty to resent him for that. I don't 'hate' him or 'dislike' him as such since I've never met him, but I do think some of his past comments have been, to say the least, hideously disrespectful towards a community which, sure, might have its flaws, but is all in all mostly harmless ... but then again, so is he, so I really don't mind. Based on his most recent activity, he's been quite funny (that whole 'I've read my comments and agree with myself' bit might become a classic from now on) but, alas, not really informative. |
| on my way up 27.10.2016 17:05 |
Nobody blaims the archivist for the lack of archive releases. For years the archivist has given hints of wonderful things existing on the archive... It's been so many years now that most of us have just grown tired of always the same high hopes with nothing really happening. The 'rare bbc item' is the best example... They didn't even include it in the BBC box... They could have searched they archive for great bonus content on Odeon... It just doesn't happen. I have officially given up. |
| bootLuca 27.10.2016 17:34 |
on my way up wrote: The 'rare bbc item' is the best example... They didn't even include it in the BBC box...I think this rare item is the golders green concert... who would have expected that it would be released? |
| Nitroboy 27.10.2016 17:46 |
I would have expected it to be the full show, IF they finally decided to release it. But here we are. |
| The Real Wizard 28.10.2016 01:11 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote: I just read the above comments back to myself, and I agree wholeheartedly with myself.I may be schizophrenic, but at least I have each other. |
| raucousmonster 28.10.2016 02:47 |
I'm a member of several forums for various artists and the one thing they all have in common is that a very small minority of people make the experience very sour for anyone who disagrees with them or holds an opinion they deem less than worthy. For example, on an Elvis forum some people get pelters for preferring 70's Elvis and others get abuse for suggesting a particular song has merit, a song which may not be generally viewed as one of his better ones. And you end up with a topic on an interesting subject being hijacked for pages and pages by a couple of idiots hurling negativity at each other instead of engaging on the subject other readers want to engage in.And there's no real consequence to the abuse as moderators rarely step in to say someone is out of order. Freedom of speech is a good thing, but moderators should keep an eye on quality control at the same time. The point is it's easy for people to use the anonymity of the internet to let their intolerance shine - even when they're discussing a mutual interest. It seems like being a pillock is human nature but the trick is not to rise to it because they'll end up dragging all of us down. |
| dysan 28.10.2016 03:03 |
How about once every 2 months, a lucky poster is selected and PM'd for a tour of the archive, to shadow an afternoon there. Offer up ideas, have a listen to a few things. Would be quite beneficial on both sides I think. |
| Benn Kempster 31.10.2016 09:39 |
Greg, re: >Your last sentence is well put, but honestly, and NOT wanting to sound arrogant, I don't want to engage a lot of the annoying people here, nor be engaged by them. Not remotely. And I realise that's unfortunate for all the genuinely nice people. All of you SENSIBLE respectful QZ-ers should set up your own forum and not permit the negative moaning draining wearisome plebs to join it. I know that's segregation... but in this instance it'd be worth the hassle so that we could indeed enjoy the kind of eloquent interaction you describe - without the moronic distractions that inevitably plague each decent and well-meant posting. I get this totally; and why wouldn't you be put off by some (all) of the UTTER retards that feel they need to (ahem) contribute whilst hiding behind pseydonyms. But, to what extent does that remoteness extend? Would you be at all prepared to provide, say, me, with some detail to put up here and then manage / deal with the responses? If a new board was created with the necessary moderation outside of QPL / OIQFC, would you engage then? Segregation is a reality - christ, I've just returned to Blighty after enduring 5 years of segregation in South Africa and, believe me, no matter how turds are polished or painted, turds they will always be. But you get used to it and then realising that its as inevitable as death and taxes, get past it, Greg, I think its really important to have your input here. I desperately want John Stuart back on board. There's an incredible fountain of knowledge about....... |
| Supersonic_Man89 31.10.2016 17:21 |
How about a weekly blog on the official website... offering tidbits, interesting info and stories and general stuff us 'nice' Queenzoners would love...but without the hassle of having to deal with any replies? Maybe you answer one or two questions a week regarding certain demos, live performances, dates, etc. I think it would be nice to have a connection with the establishment behind Queen, but i agree it's wasted on an unmoderated forum which will just resort in name calling and such. Don't want to appear like i'm sucking up to Greg - it's just, he's never personally annoyed me or been rude to me. |
| cmsdrums 01.11.2016 02:57 |
Supersonic_Man89 wrote: Don't want to appear like i'm sucking up to Greg - it's just, he's never personally annoyed me or been rude to me.Just hang around long enough...you'll get your turn!!! :-) |
| GB: Queen Archivist 01.11.2016 15:04 |
on my way up wrote: Nobody blaims the archivist for the lack of archive releases. For years the archivist has given hints of wonderful things existing on the archive... It's been so many years now that most of us have just grown tired of always the same high hopes with nothing really happening. The 'rare bbc item' is the best example... They didn't even include it in the BBC box... They could have searched they archive for great bonus content on Odeon... It just doesn't happen. I have officially given up.GB: Oh dear, On My Way Up, you sound to be some way down the road of On Your Way Down. Please do not officially give up. Not yet. Nor unofficially. |
| GB: Queen Archivist 01.11.2016 15:07 |
cmsdrums wrote:GB: I have never annoyed or been rude to anyone on this site. It's all lies and exaggeration. I am both perplexed and incredulous at the merest inference of it.Supersonic_Man89 wrote: Don't want to appear like i'm sucking up to Greg - it's just, he's never personally annoyed me or been rude to me.Just hang around long enough...you'll get your turn!!! :-) |
| on my way up 01.11.2016 15:09 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote:Well, bring us LA 22-12-77 complete audio and I might start hoping again. It may be officially or unofficially.on my way up wrote: Nobody blaims the archivist for the lack of archive releases. For years the archivist has given hints of wonderful things existing on the archive... It's been so many years now that most of us have just grown tired of always the same high hopes with nothing really happening. The 'rare bbc item' is the best example... They didn't even include it in the BBC box... They could have searched they archive for great bonus content on Odeon... It just doesn't happen. I have officially given up.GB: Oh dear, On My Way Up, you sound to be some way down the road of On Your Way Down. Please do not officially give up. Not yet. Nor unofficially. |
| Saint Jiub 01.11.2016 19:16 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote:Really? ... Must be sarcasm ... although perhaps GB has a distorted view of reality.cmsdrums wrote:GB: I have never annoyed or been rude to anyone on this site. It's all lies and exaggeration. I am both perplexed and incredulous at the merest inference of it.Supersonic_Man89 wrote: Don't want to appear like i'm sucking up to Greg - it's just, he's never personally annoyed me or been rude to me.Just hang around long enough...you'll get your turn!!! :-) |
| cmsdrums 02.11.2016 03:23 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote:I'm liking the new Greg....long may it continue!!cmsdrums wrote:GB: I have never annoyed or been rude to anyone on this site. It's all lies and exaggeration. I am both perplexed and incredulous at the merest inference of it.Supersonic_Man89 wrote: Don't want to appear like i'm sucking up to Greg - it's just, he's never personally annoyed me or been rude to me.Just hang around long enough...you'll get your turn!!! :-) |
| brians wig 02.11.2016 06:17 |
GREG: Going off topic slightly, but on a very positive note, Those remastered Mr Bad Guy tracks from the recent singles release sound so much richer than the previous versions from the the FM Solo Box of 2000. Can we have the entire album remastered and released please? Same with the original "Barcelona" album... Thanks! |
| Cockeye 02.11.2016 18:27 |
Well. I'm a 46 year old, fairly sensible and coherent long term fan of Queen who actually left this board because of GB and his attitude and some of his comments, I occasionally pop in (usually around the time of a new release) just to get some info. But I think the last time I posted here was when The Lot was released. The reality is for someone like me, is that I love this band. I love their music and will ever be grateful for what they have brought to my life over the years. One of my first concerts, at the age of 16, was Knebworth and I will remember it until the day that I die. I buy pretty much everything Queen release, including the amazing Vinyl box set last year. But I have grown more and more disillusioned with the output over the last few years. The puzzling nature of what is put out and the lack of care and attention is, to me, astonishing. For example - I am buying the six CD edition of On Air and the vinyl this Friday. But the decision to only put the highlights of the concerts on the CD set is astonishing. Whereas I appreciate that GB does not directly choose what goes on these releases, his attitude towards the fans on here allied to the shoddiness of the release pattern helps paint a picture of an organisation who really doesn't care much for us fans. And realistically why should they care? Why should they give us, for example, the superb boxes that Pink Floyd, Dylan, Bowie, R.E.M. Etc etc give us? They don't have to. I have accepted as a fan the contempt I which I am held by GB and the band and that's ok. Rather than moan about it continuously I make a conscious choice to buy something for the meagre pickings it offers and not moan about it on an online forum, It isn't going to make any difference. If I thought GB had any respect for the fans I would listen. I would be interested - but even allowing for the restrictions that are necessarily placed on him by his responsibilities I feel that he doesn't. So I have no interest. It's a shame I feel but it won't change. |
| GB: Queen Archivist 03.11.2016 17:40 |
Cockeye wrote: I'm a 46 year old, fairly sensible and coherent long term fan of Queen who actually left this board because of GB and his attitude and some of his comments, GB: MORE FOOL YOU. I occasionally pop in (usually around the time of a new release) just to get some info. But I think the last time I posted here was when The Lot was released. The reality is for someone like me, is that I love this band. I love their music and will ever be grateful for what they have brought to my life over the years. One of my first concerts, at the age of 16, was Knebworth and I will remember it until the day that I die. GB: GOOD TO HEAR. I buy pretty much everything Queen release, including the amazing Vinyl box set last year. GB: EVEN BETTER TO HEAR. But I have grown more and more disillusioned with the output over the last few years. The puzzling nature of what is put out and the lack of care and attention is, to me, astonishing. For example - I am buying the six CD edition of On Air and the vinyl this Friday. But the decision to only put the highlights of the concerts on the CD set is astonishing. GB: IF THE ENTIRE CONCERT IN EACH CASE WAS NOT RELEASE-WORTHY, BUT HIGHLIGHTS OF EACH ONE WAS, WOULD THAT BE SO ASTONISHING? IF QPL HAD PUT OUT THE ENTIRE MANNHEIM CONCERT, HAVING ALREADY PUT OUT TWO ENTIRE WEMBLEY CONCERTS AND ONE FROM BUDAPEST, FROM EXACTLY THE SAME TOUR, WOULD YOU NOT BE SAYING "THIS IS ASTONISHING TO ME! I'D RATHER HAVE HAD SOME MORUMBI 1981 AND GOLDERS GREEN 1973, SINCE THEY TOO WERE BROADCAST ON RADIO." Whereas I appreciate that GB does not directly choose what goes on these releases, his attitude towards the fans on here allied to the shoddiness of the release pattern helps paint a picture of an organisation who really doesn't care much for us fans. GB: ONLY CERTAIN FANS HERE. NOT ALL. NOT BY A LONG WAY - AS IS CLEAR FROM OTHER COMMENTS FROM FANS ON THIS THREAD. YOU CAN SEE THEM TOO, RIGHT? YOU SHOULD BE MORE BALANCED, NOT SO BIASSED AND SO 'CHIP ON YOUR SHOULDER', BECAUSE THEN I WOULD BE MORE PREPARED TO LISTEN TO CONSIDERED, FAIR AND CONSTRUCTIVE, COMMENTS. And realistically why should they care? Why should they give us, for example, the superb boxes that Pink Floyd, Dylan, Bowie, R.E.M. Etc etc give us? They don't have to. I have accepted as a fan the contempt in which I am held by GB and the band and that's ok. GB: COULD YOU FEEL ANY MORE SORRY FOR YOURSELF!? Rather than moan about it continuously I make a conscious choice to buy something for the meagre pickings it offers and not moan about it on an online forum, GB: LIKE YOU ARE HERE !! It isn't going to make any difference. If I thought GB had any respect for the fans I would listen. I would be interested - but even allowing for the restrictions that are necessarily placed on him by his responsibilities I feel that he doesn't. GB: YOU SHOULD READ OTHER THREADS, PLUS COMMENTS ON THIS ONE, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT PLENTY OF OTHER FANS ON QZ HAVE HEATHY REGARD FOR ME AND THE JOB I DO, AND TRY TO DO. MANY OF THEM READ THINGS CAREFULLY AND THEREFORE HAVE A FAIR AND BALANCED OVERVIEW. IT'S A PITY YOU DON'T. YOU'RE OFFERING NOTHING NEW, YOU JUST JUMP ON OLD AND PREDICTABLE BANDWAGON. THAT IS TEDIOUS IN THE EXTREME - TO ME ANYWAY. So I have no interest. It's a shame I feel but it won't change. GB: NOTHING MUCH WILL CHANGE IN YOUR MIND, THAT'S APPARENT. THANK GOODNESS NOT EVERYONE THINGS LIKE YOU - OR AT LEAST EXPRESSES THEMSELVES LIKE YOU... ASSUMING THAT EVERYONE ELSE SHARES YOUR OPINION, WHEN THEY VERY CLEARLY DO NOT. |
| Cockeye 03.11.2016 18:20 |
All so wearisomely predictable. A man who FEELS THE NEED TO SHOUT on an Internet forum. I just popped in around the Queen On Air release to see what others thought. I shall pop off again now, as nothing changes. I take your point on the concerts and appreciate you making it - however the reasoning behind that could have been made clearer earlier. I shall be buying the vinyl edition and the six disc box set tomorrow and I will love them in the same way I loved the vinyl box last year despite the quality control issues. The BBC sessions have long deserved a serious and proper release and I'm pleased we're getting them. I'm not going to expand on my issues. There's no point. |
| TomP63 03.11.2016 18:31 |
Greg, you keep saying that it is ridiculous to put the complete Mannheim concert on a disc, or for that matter to release the full Mannheim show. As we already have both Wembley's and Budapest. So in all fairness,it is to say no more releases or shows, or to stretch it a bit far, no more tracks of any 1986 shows? As you say, it is from one tour? But why have 'they' opted to give us seven tracks of the Mannheim show? We have Wembley, we have Budapest? There was nothing left to choose from? It seems to me that you are a bit suprised that the fans are, the least to say disappointed with the result? It's not that strange some of us are really, really disappointed? The Rainbow box, that to me was stunning release, I wished that QPL kept going on that course, sadly they did not...... Tom |
| matt z 03.11.2016 19:59 |
"Wish it away to the cornfields, son. Wish it away! " PERSON: YOU'RE A BAD MAN! AND I DON'T LIKE YOU! YOU JUST GO KEEP THINKING BAD THOUGHTS ABOUT ME. .. please don't start this all again. |
| Makka 04.11.2016 03:01 |
It's a shame to have someone with so much knowledge and insight not wanting to share because of shit that has gone on here in the past. Forums are great for this type of information but sometimes unfortunately this type of shit goes on. I can understand Greg's position on it though. So many questions I would of loved to have asked. :( |
| on my way up 04.11.2016 06:14 |
Well, if "they" think it's not a good idea to release a 4th complete 1986 show, then why not give us a couple UNHEARD 1977 or 1979 concerts... I'm sure recordings DO exist... |
| Supersonic_Man89 04.11.2016 07:17 |
In my opinion, i don't mind a highlights disc showing the band in different eras, i once made my own Greatest Hits Live albums, which consisted of a similiar thing and it's interesting to get the different flavours of different tours....however.... I would have also anticipated that a lot of the fans would hear a few songs and would want the rest of the gig. Therefore i would have included a code with each CD, which allowed you to a free hi-res download of the entire gig from the official website. Greg, is this something which you would potentially make possible one day? As then it please both parties - without the need to released an 8 disc version. |
| GB: Queen Archivist 04.11.2016 09:43 |
on my way up wrote:GB: Wow! This is great and significant news indeed, on my way up. You obviously have some analog multi-track audio recordings of this concert. How exciting.GB: Queen Archivist wrote:Well, bring us LA 22-12-77 complete audio and I might start hoping again. It may be officially or unofficially.on my way up wrote: Nobody blaims the archivist for the lack of archive releases. For years the archivist has given hints of wonderful things existing on the archive... It's been so many years now that most of us have just grown tired of always the same high hopes with nothing really happening. The 'rare bbc item' is the best example... They didn't even include it in the BBC box... They could have searched they archive for great bonus content on Odeon... It just doesn't happen. I have officially given up.GB: Oh dear, On My Way Up, you sound to be some way down the road of On Your Way Down. Please do not officially give up. Not yet. Nor unofficially. Please send them to me (or bring them in person, better still) and we'll see how much of it we can use. I agree, we should endeavour to put that out. Why didn't you tell us before? |
| on my way up 04.11.2016 10:06 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote:If only I had a recording of that show... What a setlist and all reviews of that show were so great...on my way up wrote:GB: Wow! This is great and significant news indeed, on my way up. You obviously have some analog multi-track audio recordings of this concert. How exciting. Please send them to me (or bring them in person, better still) and we'll see how much of it we can use. I agree, we should endeavour to put that out. Why didn't you tell us before?GB: Queen Archivist wrote:Well, bring us LA 22-12-77 complete audio and I might start hoping again. It may be officially or unofficially.on my way up wrote: Nobody blaims the archivist for the lack of archive releases. For years the archivist has given hints of wonderful things existing on the archive... It's been so many years now that most of us have just grown tired of always the same high hopes with nothing really happening. The 'rare bbc item' is the best example... They didn't even include it in the BBC box... They could have searched they archive for great bonus content on Odeon... It just doesn't happen. I have officially given up.GB: Oh dear, On My Way Up, you sound to be some way down the road of On Your Way Down. Please do not officially give up. Not yet. Nor unofficially. I actually read your Queen live book (which I bought and own and I would even like being able to buy the since 2010 forthcoming revised edition...) several times and it's obvious you had access to a recording of that show since you transcribed the stage banter from Freddie (he had a lot to say that night!). So, somewhere in some archive there IS a recording of that show. It may not be multi-track but it is something - in whatever quality - would make all of us very very excited. Why this obsession in the Queen camp with multi-track? I have plenty of wonderful audio live recordings that are just great sounding stereo or even mono recordings. |
| on my way up 04.11.2016 10:11 |
Why not make the live recordings that are not good enough quality available for people like us, die-hard Queen fans who'd like to hear as much Queen live as possible? We'd happily buy downloads of such unheard recordings! (the top 100 bootlegs but then with truly rare recordings and in the best formats possible) That way QPL could also satisfy this large group of Queen live fanatics but after all these years it's clear we are not the people the released products are aimed at. We are deemed to small a group to be of importance. |
| The Real Wizard 05.11.2016 00:46 |
It's very silly and short-sighted to think that there must be a 24-track recording to release a show. Years ago The Who released a full concert from 1977 on DVD with a mono soundtrack. There's absolutely no reason why Queen couldn't just release uncut mono or stereo soundboards as £10 downloads for fan club members or even on iTunes. It would take almost no effort on their part and they would sell a few thousand copies each - and they would be better than the horrible sounding shite that's already on youtube WHICH THEY AREN'T MAKING ANY MONEY ON. Seriously - where is the common sense? |
| que.123 05.11.2016 04:14 |
^ I enjoyed the Live Killers release so much that in late 1979 I wrote to the fan club and asked if some of the unreleased live material could possibly be made available to buy through the fan club... I didn't even get a reply, I'm afraid nothing much changes in in the Queen world! |
| dudeofqueen 05.11.2016 11:50 |
The Real Wizard, re: >Years ago The Who released a full concert from 1977 on DVD with a mono soundtrack. Not strictly true. They released a concert DVD from 1969 with a mono soundtrack (London Coliseum) as a bonus disc to accompany a show on DVD from 1977 (Kilburn), so it didn't make up the feature release, but I get your gist. Queen / QPL will never allow this to happen - better chance of swimming to Saturn and being able to dig there for buried dolcelate. |
| Nitroboy 05.11.2016 12:34 |
The Real Wizard wrote: It's very silly and short-sighted to think that there must be a 24-track recording to release a show. Years ago The Who released a full concert from 1977 on DVD with a mono soundtrack. There's absolutely no reason why Queen couldn't just release uncut mono or stereo soundboards as £10 downloads for fan club members or even on iTunes. It would take almost no effort on their part and they would sell a few thousand copies each - and they would be better than the horrible sounding shite that's already on youtube WHICH THEY AREN'T MAKING ANY MONEY ON. Seriously - where is the common sense? Even Bob Dylan's new giant boxset includes lots of mono tapes of live concerts, and even an audience recording or two. This whole "Brian and Roger are perfectionists" bullocks is being proven false, time and time again, by every new Queen release - so why not just give the customer more content? |