Does anyone know what interview it is where Trip Khalaf is talking about how Freddie wanted to ride a giant dick across the audience and have it go directly into a pair of lips with a mustache on stage? Ive been searching for it, but cannot find it anymore.
Thanks advanced159. I remember him talking about it on a different documentary as well, but it was more detailed. I want to say it was either one of the bonus material on either the Days of Our Lives documentary or Th Great Pretender Documentary, but I cant find it.
It was on Channel 5's 'Freddie's Loves'.
One of those ideas which sounds like Freddie's taking the piss out of them...I really don't think Freddie would have gone along with that for the Magic Tour...it would have outed him and really thrown it in peoples faces. I just wouldn't think Freddie as that stupid.
Supersonic_Man89 wrote:
It was on Channel 5's 'Freddie's Loves'.
One of those ideas which sounds like Freddie's taking the piss out of them...I really don't think Freddie would have gone along with that for the Magic Tour...it would have outed him and really thrown it in peoples faces. I just wouldn't think Freddie as that stupid.
He wore t-shirts from popular gay night clubs. He fully adopted the "clone" look. You still think he gave a shit about people knowing?
As other people have said, as funny as it may have been, he was most likely simply taking the piss.
^^^^ true, but the question of people knowing, he was openly guarded, if that makes sense. Yes he had the look in the 80's and was seen at gay night clubs, an had a group of gay friends but he never acknowledged the fact he was gay in any interviews. He did say an a couple of occasions that he was Bi sexual, and once apparently claiming in a very flippant way that he was "as gay as a daffodil" but that was never reported as being part of an seriously honest discussion.
I'm sure this was cleverly engineered by Freddie because it left the subject open, some knew or at least believed they knew he was, others stuck with the Bi coment and some just saw the whole thing as an act
Either way he had the clone look but none of us will ever know if people knowing worried or bothered him, but what we do know is that he never openly discussed the subject.
Supersonic_Man89 wrote:
It was on Channel 5's 'Freddie's Loves'.
One of those ideas which sounds like Freddie's taking the piss out of them...I really don't think Freddie would have gone along with that for the Magic Tour...it would have outed him and really thrown it in peoples faces. I just wouldn't think Freddie as that stupid.
He wore t-shirts from popular gay night clubs. He fully adopted the "clone" look. You still think he gave a shit about people knowing?
As other people have said, as funny as it may have been, he was most likely simply taking the piss.
Did most of the fan base even know what the clone look meant? Loads of British footballers ,lorry drivers etc looked the same, it was imitating the classic macho male. Everyone knew but they didn't know . Quite remarkable really.
Vocal harmony wrote:
^^^^ true, but the question of people knowing, he was openly guarded, if that makes sense. Yes he had the look in the 80's and was seen at gay night clubs, an had a group of gay friends but he never acknowledged the fact he was gay in any interviews. He did say an a couple of occasions that he was Bi sexual, and once apparently claiming in a very flippant way that he was "as gay as a daffodil" but that was never reported as being part of an seriously honest discussion.
I'm sure this was cleverly engineered by Freddie because it left the subject open, some knew or at least believed they knew he was, others stuck with the Bi coment and some just saw the whole thing as an act
Either way he had the clone look but none of us will ever know if people knowing worried or bothered him, but what we do know is that he never openly discussed the subject.
^^^
I think that if you openly wear a gay club's t-shirt in public the you obviously do not give a shit. He wore a 'Mineshaft' t-shirt on the 1979 Don't Stop me Now video. (Mineshaft was a very heavy NYC gay sex club). True, your average person watching Top Of The Pops at that time would not have a clue but enough people would for it to become public knowledge if the press wanted to run with it.
Also I remember seeing pics of him at a party in the late 70's wearing a Heaven t-shirt (London gay nightclub) in Record Mirror.
It wasn't Freddie who had an issue with being 'out'. It was the very weird British public's perception of gay people that was the problem in those days. They would know full well that certain members of the entertainment industry were gay and were happy with it as long those entertainers kept a 'respectful' silence about it. The official management line was probably 'don't actually come out officially, it could cause problems' so Freddie being Freddie just had fun with it.
Certainly, some elements of the public knew of the clone look thanks to the Village People although a lot just thought they liked fancy dress. I think the clone look was much more associated with a gay look in the US (I think the throwing of razor blades onto the stage was a sign of this rather than making a purely sartorial complaint).
Re the DSMN video, TOTPs and most other TV shows that showed the video probably had no idea at the time what Mineshaft was, in the same way they had no idea what Ramrod and The Anvil were in the background of Village People's YMCA video (2 other gay sex clubs around the corner from Mineshaft in New York).
it seems to me that FM was gay and due to societal (and maybe parental) pressure in the early days found himself a girlfriend (when he came out to Mary didn't she say "I know"?). He certainly never went back to girls or attempted to appear in public with anyone on his arm.
Someone who actively did not want to be known as gay was Elton who got married to a woman to make his point. Freddie did not do anything to put the public off the scent. He just played the game.
Probably not worth dissecting Freddie's sexuality but it does seem his bond with Mary was real, had a sexual element, and gradually he felt the need to sort things out.
I think Freddie played it the right way
The "coming out" process in the 80s and 90 s would usually be written of in the press as the individual "admitting" to being gay, as though there was guilt to confess to.