Darren_1977 03.08.2016 01:51 |
Don't know if this was ever discussed before , but what exactly did Squier contribute to Hot Space, finally bought Emotions In Motion / Signs Of Life double CD and he mentions it in the liner notes for Emotions, thabks |
Haystacks Calhoun II 03.08.2016 06:46 |
Backing vocals on Cool Cat. |
vicspec 03.08.2016 23:02 |
Is Brian May credited with guitar and backing vocals on One Good Woman from Squier's Emotions In Motion album? That's surely him. |
Darren_1977 04.08.2016 14:44 |
Must play it again, solo on another 1984 is very good |
vicspec 04.08.2016 16:50 |
Darren_1977. Yeah 1984 solo is on fire! Great track, would've been good on The Works. Don't think he's on Cool Cat at all btw. One Good Woman: link |
Haystacks Calhoun II 05.08.2016 06:54 |
Research it...by his own account he is. |
Sebastian 05.08.2016 07:19 |
Haystacks Calhoun II wrote: Research it...by his own account he is.You could help by providing a link to an interview or something, or coordinates for where his BV's presumably are. |
Haystacks Calhoun II 05.08.2016 22:09 |
link A simple Google search. |
Sebastian 05.08.2016 22:41 |
That's not 'his own account,' that's Rolling Stone's account... it wouldn't be the first or last time a mag article written by someone who wasn't there and probably had no access to primary sources could include mistakes. For the record, I've no idea whether he's actually there or not. If there's evidence (like ... actual evidence, not a Rolling Stone article), I'm happy to believe it. |
Haystacks Calhoun II 06.08.2016 08:44 |
Since Billy became a solo act, each album-making had foreshadowed the possibility of Squier/Queen collaboration. Through the first album, although Brian May was unavailable, Billy knew Mack through him. On the second, Billy appointed Mack to the co-producer, which meant that he and Queen had the mutual producer. Then the necessity of the mutual producer for both acts' coincident new albums enabled both parties to visit the producer's hometown studio (Musicland Studios) in Munich. When Billy visited there in January 1982, Queen had already begun working on their new album. Surrounded intimate atmosphere, guest appearance on each other's albums took place naturally. Freddie and Roger gave some "emotional support" to the title track of Billy's next album, "Emotions In Motion", singing backing vocals behind Billy's lead voice. "That combination sounds fantastic," boasts Billy. In return, Billy covered a deficit, which had been caused by the sudden cancellation by David Bowie, with a chorus to "Cool Cat" on Queen's "Hot Space" album. Although their mutual dream to collaborate a full album became much harder to materialize due to each other's crowded schedules, they agreed to do North American tour together next summer. "I thought it was a real honor being able to work with them and it was kinda natural cause we were friends," remarks Billy. "Emotions in Motion", his third solo LP, came out in July, with the Roger and Freddie featured title track single. Then, much expected joint tour with Queen started off at the Forum in Montreal, Canada, on 21 July. Throughout the tour, Billy went first on stage, and gave a famed dynamic performance at each venue, bringing down the whole house including Queen-minded fans, and of course, so did the main act when they appeared on the stage. Those who were impressed by Queen's performance included some celebrities like Andy Warhol (the artist responsible for Billy's "Emotions" album art) and none other than Billy Squier. He was fascinated by Freddie's performance in particular. "He (Freddie) loved to perform," recalls Billy. "I think all the words about how great a performer he was have been used up. I just used to stand and watch him every night thinking, 'how do you do that? Just how do you get away with it?' It was the onstage Freddie that was most fearless. He believed in what he and the band were doing so much, he never projected the slightest fear or self-doubt and that just swept the audience along with him. He just knew that the show was going to work. He was made for the stage. His sense of theatricality was the key, and it was a key which so very few other rock performers have at their disposal." While the two-month memorable tour, taking their reciprocal affection into consideration, costarring onstage could have happened at any time as long as Billy and Queen were on the same bill. But the very special occasion never happened till the tour reached its final. The last concert of the tour, which, no one imagined then, to be the Queen's last stage in America, was held at the Inglewood Forum in Los Angeles on 15 September. As usual, Billy played first, then Queen did theirs. But the encore performance of the latter act was far much from usual. Billy was called up onstage for their unusual rendition of an old Presley number, "Jailhouse Rock". This only coacting in public --- Billy and Freddie on vocals, Brian on guitar, Roger on drums and John on bass --- remains with Billy one of the strongest memories to this day. |
Sebastian 06.08.2016 10:33 |
Haystacks Calhoun II wrote: In return, Billy covered a deficit, which had been caused by the sudden cancellation by David Bowie, with a chorus to "Cool Cat" on Queen's "Hot Space" album.That comment's not by Billy but by whoever wrote that article or liner notes, who could've easily added them just to sensationalise. There might have been a plan to get Billy to do Bowie's bits but, if so, either they never went through with it or they chose to wipe them out since the released version of 'Cool Cat' has no BV's where DB's BV's used to be. Haystacks Calhoun II wrote: "I thought it was a real honor being able to work with them and it was kinda natural cause we were friends," remarks Billy.Nice comment, but it could've referred to anything (his album, their tour, their live performance). There are 'official' comments from Fred allegedly talking about 'Bo Rhap' being made on sixteen track and having been described as an amalgamation of Cecil B de Mile with Walt Disney ... only that those were never comments about 'Bo Rhap', but about 'Black Queen' and 'Lap of the Gods' respectively, edited (cut 'n' pasted) so it would seem like he was talking about 'Bo Rhap.' That happens really often, unfortunately. |
Haystacks Calhoun II 06.08.2016 11:52 |
Not gonna get in a pissing match, but Billy himself says so in the liner notes to the album. Two other references to it, easily found with a 3 second Google search. I'm sure, if I felt like spending 30 seconds longer, could find more. |
Sebastian 06.08.2016 11:56 |
Haystacks Calhoun II wrote: Billy himself says so in the liner notes to the album.What does he say, exactly? Haystacks Calhoun II wrote: Two other references to it, easily found with a 3 second Google search.Why don't you post them then? Haystacks Calhoun II wrote: I'm sure, if I felt like spending 30 seconds longer, could find more.Go ahead then. |
Haystacks Calhoun II 06.08.2016 13:58 |
Billy says he did, Rolling Stone said he did in the original 1982 album review. That is good enough for me. If it's not good enough for you, I don't care. Evidence points to him doing so. |
Sebastian 06.08.2016 14:45 |
Haystacks Calhoun II wrote: Billy says he didWhere? Haystacks Calhoun II wrote: Rolling Stone said he did in the original 1982 album review.Sure, 'cause Rolling Stone never ever lied... Haystacks Calhoun II wrote: Evidence points to him doing so.No, it doesn't, since you've failed to present any evidence. Moreover, listening to the track, there's no sign of his voice there. If evidence surfaces, I'll be willing to believe it. But saying 'he said so' and then failing to prove it is not evidence. There are also three different aspects here: * Was there a plan to have him sing on that track? Quite likely. * If so, did he actually record vocals there? No evidence one way or the other. * If so, are those vocals on the album? Unlikely. |
Kuijpy 16.08.2016 02:13 |
The supervisor Sebastian, he thinks that he knows everything and the other fans are stupid, very annoying guy! |
Costa86 16.08.2016 04:43 |
^I don't agree. He just asked for evidence. A lot of what is discussed here, and pretty much anywhere really, is hearsay. Hearsay which people take as fact. Sebastian is probably one of the few people here who haven't actually seen Queen live but who still have a lot to verifiable info to contribute. If you took him and a handful of other contributors away, this forum would be completely dead. |
Sebastian 16.08.2016 07:44 |
Kuijpy wrote: he thinks that he knows everythingThe only person who knows what you think is you, and the only person who knows what I think is myself. And no, I don't think I know everything. Not at all. If you read my posts you'll find out many instances when I've admitted to being wrong, because I don't know everything. Kuijpy wrote: and the other fans are stupidNo, I don't think other fans are stupid (with you, I do have my doubts, though). I just asked for evidence. Costa86 wrote: He just asked for evidence. A lot of what is discussed here, and pretty much anywhere really, is hearsay. Hearsay which people take as fact.Let me put it this way: when I claimed 'Who Wants to Live Forever' had no bass I was asked for evidence; instead of saying 'just google it', I provided it; I was wrong, and once someone else (please forgive me for not remembering who exactly) pointed out clearly where the bass was audible, I checked it and immediately changed my stance, since the evidence was clear; when I claimed 'Dust' had synths, I was asked for evidence, and since I had been the one claiming so, the onus was on me to provide it; I did - and it turned out for that case I was right. I'm sceptic about a Rolling Stones article as evidence since a lot of what is written in those mags is hearsay. If Billy said it himself that's far stronger, but what did he say exactly? No answer was given. Compare the following hypothetical statements by Billy: - 'It was great to work with Queen.' - 'It was great to record with Queen.' - 'When Bowie bailed out I was asked to replace him.' - 'I did three takes of BVs on "Cool Cat" and then we went out for drinks.' The first one means nothing in the context of 'Cool Cat' - he could've simply meant he'd worked with them by touring together, or that three quarters of them guested on his records at some point; the second one does not emphatically mean one song; the third one points at a plan having been made but not necessarily executed; the fourth one would confirm he recorded BV's but not necessarily that those BV's survived to the released version. That's why I asked for the quote ... but so far nothing's been posted or linked. Again, all those are different possibilities, and it's not B&W or grey: Billy could be one of the many uncredited guests, or maybe he did record BV's but they were excised from the final version for whichever reason, or maybe there'd been a plan for him to record them but there wasn't time, or maybe a coked Fred asked him to do it but then forgot, or maybe there was never any involvement and the whole story was fabricated. At this point, it's all hearsay as you said. |
The Real Wizard 16.08.2016 13:28 |
Kuijpy wrote: The supervisor Sebastian, he thinks that he knows everything and the other fans are stupid, very annoying guy!What a foolish comment to make. Even assuming you're right, you're being no different because you're claiming to "know everything" about Sebastian without actually providing sound reasoning. What exactly do you contribute to this place that's better or even on par to what he has done? |
Kuijpy 16.08.2016 14:24 |
He thinks he knows everything, everybody's thoughts are wrong except mister Seb. in Holland we call him a Mierenneuker. So Sebastian, did u know that Freddie farted two times when he sang Ogre Battle? |
Sebastian 16.08.2016 14:28 |
Kuijpy wrote: He thinks he knows everythingNo, I don't think I know everything. There are plenty of posts (including two in this very thread) where I clearly state I don't think that. Kuijpy wrote: everybody's thoughts are wrong except mister SebNo, not everybody's thoughts are wrong. Yours certainly seem to be, though. Very, very wrong. But not everybody's. Kuijpy wrote: So Sebastian, did u know that Freddie farted two times when he sang Ogre Battle?No, I've no idea about that. But have you got evidence? Or should I just believe you for the sake of it? |
Sebastian 16.08.2016 14:28 |
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