QueenZone discussion #1452144
First and last track they recorded for each album
| Sebastian 03.05.2016 02:59 |
As a bit of a timelines spin-off, the first track they did for* each album: * Note that I'm only counting those they recorded as part of the album sessions per se, not the ones that wound up there later on for other reasons, such as rescued demos and B-Sides: - Queen: ??? - Queen II: Seven Seas of Rhye - Sheer Heart Attack: Flick of the Wrist - A Night at the Opera: You're My Best Friend - A Day at the Races: Good Old-Fashioned Lover Boy - News of the World: ??? - Jazz: ??? - The Game: Crazy Little Thing - Flash Gordon: ??? - Hot Space: ??? (four possible candidates) - The Works: ??? - A Kind of Magic: ??? (perhaps the title track) - The Miracle: ??? - Innuendo: Don't Try So Hard - Made in Heaven: You Don't Fool Me And the last to be completed: - Queen: Keep Yourself Alive - Queen II: Procession - Sheer Heart Attack: Now I'm Here - A Night at the Opera: ??? - A Day at the Races: ??? - News of the World: ??? - Jazz: ??? - The Game: ??? - Flash Gordon: The Hero - Hot Space: Cool Cat (possibly) - The Works: Is This the World We Created - A Kind of Magic: ??? - The Miracle: ??? - Innuendo: ??? - Made in Heaven: Track No 13, otherwise You Don't Fool Me (again!) |
| Sunshine 03.05.2016 03:35 |
Regarding The Miracle, Brian stated I Want It All was the first track recorded since the track was totally finalized before jamming again after a long break. Also, the track was recorded in a live setting, to get the feeling back to play together again. Correct me if I am wrong though. Regarding Magic, wasn't One Vision not the first track? Roger Taylor wrote Magic and some words were integrated from the One Vision demo. Again, Correct me if I am wrong. I didn't know about the other tracks, where is your opinion based on? It is interesting to read about the background info. |
| bodwinnumber2 03.05.2016 03:40 |
surely the first track recorded for A Night At The Opera was God Save The Queen, as it was recorded during the Sheer Heart Attack sessions. |
| pittrek 03.05.2016 03:46 |
Shouldn't the first song for Hot Space be Under Pressure? Or did you exclude it because it wasn't done as part of the "official" album sessions? |
| pittrek 03.05.2016 03:49 |
Sunshine wrote: Regarding The Miracle, Brian stated I Want It All was the first track recorded since the track was totally finalized before jamming again after a long break. Also, the track was recorded in a live setting, to get the feeling back to play together again. Correct me if I am wrong though. Regarding Magic, wasn't One Vision not the first track? Roger Taylor wrote Magic and some words were integrated from the One Vision demo. Again, Correct me if I am wrong. I didn't know about the other tracks, where is your opinion based on? It is interesting to read about the background info.Well, shortly after Live Aid they recorded the demo for "A Kind of Vision (august 85), which was later split into A Kind of Magic and One Vision. |
| Sebastian 03.05.2016 06:52 |
Sunshine wrote: Regarding The Miracle, Brian stated I Want It All was the first track recorded since the track was totally finalized before jamming again after a long break.Really? Where did he say that? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm genuinely asking. I remember him saying he'd written it before the sessions and, for that reason, it was an exception to the team effort writing they were doing at the time, but not that it was necessarily the first they laid down. It may very well have been, of course. Sunshine wrote: Also, the track was recorded in a live setting, to get the feeling back to play together again. Correct me if I am wrong though.Perhaps quite a few of them had live backing tracks, but there were still loads of overdubs and some programming. Sunshine wrote: Regarding Magic, wasn't One Vision not the first track?First released, but not necessarily first recorded. There's an 'A Kind of Magic' demo that precedes the 'One Vision' sessions. Sunshine wrote: I didn't know about the other tracks, where is your opinion based on? It is interesting to read about the background info.Timelines. bodwinnumber2 wrote: surely the first track recorded for A Night At The Opera was God Save The Queen, as it was recorded during the Sheer Heart Attack sessions.Back to my original post: Sebastian wrote: Note that I'm only counting those they recorded as part of the album sessions per se, not the ones that wound up there later on for other reasons, such as rescued demos and B-Sides:'God Save the Queen' was not recorded as part of the 'A Night at the Opera' sessions per se, and it was a rescued B-Side (it showed up on the 'Keep Yourself Alive' American re-release a few months before they started recording the album). For the same reason, I don't count 'It's a Beautiful Day' as the first thing they did for 'Made in Heaven', since they didn't deliberately do it *for* 'Made in Heaven'. It was rescued later on and included since they needed more tracks. Same for the 'Night Comes Down' demo, etc. pittrek wrote: Shouldn't the first song for Hot Space be Under Pressure? Or did you exclude it because it wasn't done as part of the "official" album sessions?First song released, but not first song recorded. 'Under Pressure' emerged when David visited them in the studio while they were recording the album (i.e. sessions were already underway and they'd already started off some tracks including 'Cool Cat'). |
| bodwinnumber2 03.05.2016 08:51 |
Technically no tracks were recorded specifically for the 'Made In Heaven' album. as all were 'old' or unfinished pieces. |
| Vali 03.05.2016 09:56 |
bodwinnumber2 wrote: Technically no tracks were recorded specifically for the 'Made In Heaven' album. as all were 'old' or unfinished pieces.yes, A Winter's Tale or Mother Love, for instance. Those were as old as ...... post-Innuendo sessions ? |
| Chief Mouse 03.05.2016 10:17 |
Sebastian wrote:Sunshine wrote: Regarding The Miracle, Brian stated I Want It All was the first track recorded since the track was totally finalized before jamming again after a long break.Really? Where did he say that? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm genuinely asking. I remember him saying he'd written it before the sessions and, for that reason, it was an exception to the team effort writing they were doing at the time, but not that it was necessarily the first they laid down. It may very well have been, of course. |
| Sebastian 03.05.2016 10:32 |
Yes, I'm familiar with that comment (from GVHII), yet it doesn't, at any point, state it was *the first* song recorded for the album. Brian claims it 'was pretty much a finished song when we went into the studio', but he's talking about its songwriting (elsewhere you can find John's comment for context), it doesn't necessarily mean they recorded it prior to, say, 'Party' (which was written in the studio). It might have been, or not, there's nothing to suggest either. Edit: Here's John's comment (the one Brian refers to). link He mentions 'I Want It All' as 'one of the few songs that was actually written before we went in.' Keywords: *one* and *few*. So, while it was part of those early sessions, there's nothing to confirm or deny whether it was absolutely *the first*. |
| master marathon runner 03.05.2016 11:59 |
....I'm losing the will to live here. |
| Pokemaniacjunk 03.05.2016 14:50 |
for innuendo wouldn't All gods people Or Innuendo be the first song recorded since Innuendo started in the spring of 1989 as a jam session and all gods people was from an image i saw suggested as a song for the miracle |
| Kuijpy 03.05.2016 15:03 |
Who the hell cares? We don't know it and Brian doesn't remember anything... |
| MercurialFreddie 03.05.2016 16:17 |
Wasn't All God's People a song that evolved from the demo Freddie recorded (possibly with Montsy) for the Barcelona album ? |
| Sebastian 03.05.2016 16:31 |
master marathon runner wrote: ....I'm losing the will to live here.There's a simple solution: don't read this thread. Kuijpy wrote: Who the hell cares?I do. If you don't, there's nothing wrong with that, but then there's no point in you being in this thread. Kuijpy wrote: We don't know it and Brian doesn't remember anything...Brian's not the only Queen-related person who's still alive. Pokemaniacjunk wrote: for innuendo wouldn't All gods people Or Innuendo be the first song recorded since Innuendo started in the spring of 1989 as a jam session and all gods people was from an image i saw suggested as a song for the miracleFAIK, 'Innuendo' (the song) originated in autumn. MercurialFreddie wrote: Wasn't All God's People a song that evolved from the demo Freddie recorded (possibly with Montsy) for the Barcelona album ?Er, no, it wasn't. It was a song that evolved at the same time as the Barcelona album, but not a song recorded *for* the Barcelona album. |
| Mr.QueenFan 03.05.2016 16:41 |
Sebastian wrote:Wasn't "Africa by night" a demo from the "Barcelona" project? I know it didn't make the Freddie box-set but i always thought it came from the Barcelona sessions - home sessions that is.MercurialFreddie wrote: Wasn't All God's People a song that evolved from the demo Freddie recorded (possibly with Montsy) for the Barcelona album ?Er, no, it wasn't. It was a song that evolved at the same time as the Barcelona album, but not a song recorded *for* the Barcelona album. |
| Sebastian 03.05.2016 17:08 |
It was first done for a solo project which was interrupted and ultimately shelved because of 'Barcelona', so it's more or less from the same period but not precisely from those sessions or meant for that album. Another case of people adding two plus two and getting five. |
| Sunshine 04.05.2016 02:15 |
Sebastian wrote:I remember it from the BBC radio interview shortly after the release of The Miracle, where, in my memory, it was debated.Sunshine wrote: Regarding The Miracle, Brian stated I Want It All was the first track recorded since the track was totally finalized before jamming again after a long break.Really? Where did he say that? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm genuinely asking. I remember him saying he'd written it before the sessions and, for that reason, it was an exception to the team effort writing they were doing at the time, but not that it was necessarily the first they laid down. It may very well have been, of course.Sunshine wrote: Also, the track was recorded in a live setting, to get the feeling back to play together again. Correct me if I am wrong though.Perhaps quite a few of them had live backing tracks, but there were still loads of overdubs and some programming. But i have to listen back to it to be sure. I dont think we will get much wiser with this tread, it'll be asuming. |
| Jeremy 04.05.2016 10:53 |
Sebastian wrote: It was first done for a solo project which was interrupted and ultimately shelved because of 'Barcelona', so it's more or less from the same period but not precisely from those sessions or meant for that album. Another case of people adding two plus two and getting five.The vocals up to "And then I...then I went into a dream." are clearly pre-Innuendo sessions. (Compare the two "Rule with your heart and live with your conscience" lines at the beginning and end of the song. I suspect these particular vocals were recorded during the Barcelona sessions as they also sound a bit different from The Miracle-era Freddie, then they finished the song with vocals recorded during the Innuendo sessions proper. Great topic. Keep it up. |
| brunogorski 04.05.2016 12:03 |
/queenzone/646034.html Found this thread at my Firefox bookmarks. lol it's from 11 y ago. |
| Pokemaniacjunk 04.05.2016 18:13 |
what about this image I've seen in a queenzone post |
| Sebastian 05.05.2016 06:49 |
That's fantastic, thank you! |
| Sebastian 24.07.2016 15:28 |
A recently found comment by Roger seems to allege 'It's Late' was the first thing they recorded for 'News of the World.' |
| Oscar J 24.07.2016 16:00 |
... source? |
| paulosham 24.07.2016 16:47 |
I thought that The Night Comes Down was the first to be recorded for Queen. Isn't the album version just a remixed version of the original De Lane Lea demo? |
| Sebastian 24.07.2016 18:22 |
Sebastian wrote: Note that I'm only counting those they recorded as part of the album sessions per se, not the ones that wound up there later on for other reasons, such as rescued demos and B-SidesIn that sense, 'Night Comes Down' was not recorded *for* the album, it was recorded *as* a demo and then rescued and put on the album since they needed more material. A similar point can be made about 'All God's People' and 'God Save the Queen.' |
| Wiley 24.07.2016 20:21 |
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| Cyborg 24.07.2016 22:04 |
I think Sebastián is referring to this: link |
| Sebastian 25.07.2016 08:46 |
Cyborg wrote: I think Sebastián is referring to this: linkExactly... but my name hasn't got an accute accent :) |
| Day dop 11.08.2016 14:46 |
Hot Space : Under pressure. |
| Sebastian 13.08.2016 17:03 |
Day dop wrote: Hot Space : Under pressure.Not at all. Bowie went to visit them whilst they were recording. There's nothing to suggest he went to visit them *on the first day* of their recording sessions. In fact, by the time he went there they'd already done some tracking in Munich and then moved to Montreux, which means that whatever they did in those days (including the backing track of 'Cool Cat') preceded UP. |