QueenZone discussion #1450748

cdrom wrote: didn't they already release this material? queen at the beeb right?

Val Lurex wrote: "Brian says" blah blah blah. He says a lot but does little. Another 70's concert is what we need now. A package of the BBC recordings will be perfectly fine by me only if it comes as an addition to some bigger releases this year.

tero! 48531 wrote: So... Brian is now working on a release which was already advertised over 20 years ago. Does that mean it will be released in another 20 years? Or does it mean that the normal timeline is in reverse, and Brian will only start the recording in another 20 years? :/

rocknrolllover wrote:

Val Lurex wrote: "Brian says" blah blah blah. He says a lot but does little. Another 70's concert is what we need now. A package of the BBC recordings will be perfectly fine by me only if it comes as an addition to some bigger releases this year.

For example Knewborth Park'86 audio

Mrmarioanonym wrote: so we'll get autotuned BBC?

Kevinrm15 wrote: It will be all 6 sessions plus some other stuff too.

Oscar J wrote: But many of those sessions have tracks that are almost exactly identical to the album versions. Why would they bother make 6 CD's and including those?

Pim Derks wrote: 6 discs, one disc for each session lasting 15-20 minutes. It's Queen Productions after all!

Walter B. wrote: Not only a 3LP will be released, but also a 1CD and a 6CD version. Content unknown.

on my way up wrote: 1 side of an LP is about 20 minutes -->so 3 LP's is about 120 minutes. 6 sessions from 20 minutes at the most... In QPL-world this might very well translate to 6 20 minute cd's (with 1 unheard song on one of the cd's being marketed as the greatest thing since A night at the opera). Let's hope this is not the case.

dysan wrote: Live Aid and Wembley 86 were on Radio 1, right?

Doga wrote:

dysan wrote: Live Aid and Wembley 86 were on Radio 1, right?

These two don't count because they were re-released to death... oh wait. On a serious note, how many concerts were broadcasted by radio? Golders Green 73 Velez 81 Live Aid Wembley and Mannheim 86 Anything else?

dysan wrote: Wembley definitely was because my next door neighbour recorded it off the radio and I went around to listen and it was a thing of absolute wonder to me. In Concert or similar?

dysan wrote: Probably been mentioned, but all the TOTP clips would be great on a DVD in this set.

Freddie rey wrote: It seems that the 6 cd version will include the golders green show and interviews, and more material no reveal at the moment

Doga wrote:

Freddie rey wrote: It seems that the 6 cd version will include the golders green show and interviews, and more material no reveal at the moment

Source on this?

IanR wrote: What about "We Are The Champions" from the Bob Harris '77 footage? Wasn't that a BBC session?

cmi wrote: ^ great news indeed. The product seems to be very well crafted, hope there will be good mastering and useful info/photos inside the box set. It seems to me Queen's set will beat new Zeppelin BBC set and both Beatles' sets as a product and will be on the same level as Floyd's Early Years Set. Fingers crossed.

Vocal harmony wrote:

IanR wrote: What about "We Are The Champions" from the Bob Harris '77 footage? Wasn't that a BBC session?

I believe that was part of the Bob Harris documentary which never broadcast and possibly never vanished. Also connected to this, in a way, is the We Are The Champions filming day. There is some conjecture as to there being film of the set the band played later that day, which may have been added to the Bob Harris documentary and also an audio of the show. While these couldn't be viewed as sessions, and were never broadcast I wonder whether this gig would fit into the broadcast sessions set.

The Real Wizard wrote:

cmi wrote: ^ great news indeed. The product seems to be very well crafted, hope there will be good mastering and useful info/photos inside the box set. It seems to me Queen's set will beat new Zeppelin BBC set and both Beatles' sets as a product and will be on the same level as Floyd's Early Years Set. Fingers crossed.

As good as this is, the Floyd box set has at least double the amount of material, much of which has never been heard or seen before. It may end up being one of the greatest box sets ever released.

dysan wrote: That makes sense. 30 years ago. Might have been helpful to say that in your initial reply.

dysan wrote: Did a good rip of that Now I'm Here soundcheck ever appear ?

The Real Wizard wrote:

dysan wrote: Did a good rip of that Now I'm Here soundcheck ever appear ?

No ;)

Kevinrm15 wrote: All will be revealed soon.

joerijoerijoeri wrote: Haha! Nevermind the elements, i want Queen on Dope, the long awaited release of the super secret experimental sessions they did in Munich around the time they recorded Hot Space

Walter B. wrote: USA 2cd: November 4: https://www.amazon.com/Queen-Air-2-CD/dp/B01LSVFH0C?SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&tag=camelproducts-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01LSVFH0C

Nitroboy wrote:

Walter B. wrote: USA 2cd: November 4: https://www.amazon.com/Queen-Air-2-CD/dp/B01LSVFH0C?SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&tag=camelproducts-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01LSVFH0C

Also listed as 3x LP on a Danish vinyl site (along with GH 1 & 2)  https://www.phono.dk/index.php/vinyler/nyheder/releaseplan.html Scroll down to November. Also found this on Queenonline: "-2 cds with the six sessions -3 lps with the six sessions, each one on one side -6 cds, two with the six sessions, one with the golders green show, one with unreleased or very unknown material (but not confirmed yet), and two with interviews."

cmsdrums wrote:

Nitroboy wrote:

Walter B. wrote: USA 2cd: November 4: https://www.amazon.com/Queen-Air-2-CD/dp/B01LSVFH0C?SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&tag=camelproducts-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01LSVFH0C

Also listed as 3x LP on a Danish vinyl site (along with GH 1 & 2)  https://www.phono.dk/index.php/vinyler/nyheder/releaseplan.html Scroll down to November. Also found this on Queenonline: "-2 cds with the six sessions -3 lps with the six sessions, each one on one side -6 cds, two with the six sessions, one with the golders green show, one with unreleased or very unknown material (but not confirmed yet), and two with interviews."

Is that QOL list a factual statement or just a fan's wish list?

cmsdrums wrote:

Nitroboy wrote:

Walter B. wrote: USA 2cd: November 4: https://www.amazon.com/Queen-Air-2-CD/dp/B01LSVFH0C?SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&tag=camelproducts-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01LSVFH0C

Also listed as 3x LP on a Danish vinyl site (along with GH 1 & 2)  https://www.phono.dk/index.php/vinyler/nyheder/releaseplan.html Scroll down to November. Also found this on Queenonline: "-2 cds with the six sessions -3 lps with the six sessions, each one on one side -6 cds, two with the six sessions, one with the golders green show, one with unreleased or very unknown material (but not confirmed yet), and two with interviews."

Is that QOL list a factual statement or just a fan's wish list?

Kevinrm15 wrote: Well I was about to drop a hint. But jobs are on the line if I were to do so. Let's just say that the one disc of "rare and unreleased stuff" in the 6 CD edition could be hit or miss for some people.

Kevinrm15 wrote: Well I was about to drop a hint. But jobs are on the line if I were to do so. Let's just say that the one disc of "rare and unreleased stuff" in the 6 CD edition could be hit or miss for some people.

Pokemaniacjunk wrote: Wait a second for the bbc what will they do for the march of the black queen

Bad Seed wrote: I'd guess more stuff was recorded for the '77 session. There's bloody filmed evidence of the recording WATCs

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: So far I think I'll be quite happy with the 2cd or maybe the 3cd. But I'll just wait and see what the big box might be. Anyway, I'm eager to see a press-release to put an end to all the speculation.

cmsdrums wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: So far I think I'll be quite happy with the 2cd or maybe the 3cd. But I'll just wait and see what the big box might be. Anyway, I'm eager to see a press-release to put an end to all the speculation.

That's a big assumption to make, that a QPL press release will be ambiguity and error-free enough to end all speculation? :-)

Kevinrm15 wrote: Golders Green is there. But there is also more to come.

alberbal12 wrote:

Kevinrm15 wrote: Golders Green is there. But there is also more to come.

On the same CD?

Kevinrm15 wrote:

alberbal12 wrote:

Kevinrm15 wrote: Golders Green is there. But there is also more to come.

On the same CD?

That I am not sure of.

Pim Derks wrote: Queen, the only band who would release three discs filled with interviews no-one cares about while having an archive full of concerts and other material. Ofcourse I'll buy it.

Kevinrm15 wrote: I was told the deadline for the announcement was this Friday. But who knows. This is Queen we're talking about. They'll probably wait until after the tour to announce it.

Val Lurex wrote:

Kevinrm15 wrote: I was told the deadline for the announcement was this Friday. But who knows. This is Queen we're talking about. They'll probably wait until after the tour to announce it.

This would make sense, as now we're only six weeks away from the actual release. They can't be postponing it any longer. It should be out today, so I hope.

Val Lurex wrote:

Kevinrm15 wrote: I was told the deadline for the announcement was this Friday. But who knows. This is Queen we're talking about. They'll probably wait until after the tour to announce it.

This would make sense, as now we're only six weeks away from the actual release. They can't be postponing it any longer. It should be out today, so I hope.

Hutchence wrote: Updates from Greg Brooks @ Dutch Queen Convention: -The safest news: It is very unlikely that there will be a anthology boxset with Outtakes and things, as Queen already rejected to include this things in the bonus Cd content of the Remastered series. It is their music and they got to decide... Thanks to Hardy Zanelli on the info !

Hutchence wrote: Updates from Greg Brooks @ Dutch Queen Convention: -There will be a box set as well, including other onair content such as live concerts that were broadcasted

Doga wrote: Mannheim 86, maybe?

cmsdrums wrote: Perhaps this set should be named 'Queen on Gas & Air' to represent how high they must be when they consider their release strategy......!

Doga wrote:

Hutchence wrote: Updates from Greg Brooks @ Dutch Queen Convention: -There will be a box set as well, including other onair content such as live concerts that were broadcasted

Mannheim 86, maybe?

Val Lurex wrote:

Doga wrote:

Hutchence wrote: Updates from Greg Brooks @ Dutch Queen Convention: -There will be a box set as well, including other onair content such as live concerts that were broadcasted

Mannheim 86, maybe?

How is this broadcast related to the BBC?

Hutchence wrote: Updates from Greg Brooks @ Dutch Queen Convention: -Queen on air with all BBC Sessions will be released as a double Cd. There will be a box set as well, including other onair content such as live concerts that were broadcasted -Queen Greatest Hits 1&2 getting it's re-release on vinyl. GH 1 will have a different artwork and tracklist, it will be a double Lp -the Brian May Box Set is work in progress! -A big Queen Exhibition on a really large scale is planned, inspired by the David Bowie one and other great ones. The Queen one will be bigger than the Bowie one. -A Live killers Box Set is work in progress, in-between other projects -Working on Hyde Park/Earls Court, not yet sure if it is going to be the whole concerts as a solo release, or a compilation, cause of lack of quality... -There will be a huge 3D book with pictures taken by Brian May over the years - A massive book is to come with live pictures, maybe split in 2 books (70ies, 80ies) -The safest news: It is very unlikely that there will be a anthology boxset with Outtakes and things, as Queen already rejected to include this things in the bonus Cd content of the Remastered series. It is their music and they got to decide... Thanks to Hardy Zanelli on the info !

Panchgani wrote:

Val Lurex wrote:

Doga wrote:

Hutchence wrote: Updates from Greg Brooks @ Dutch Queen Convention: -There will be a box set as well, including other onair content such as live concerts that were broadcasted

Mannheim 86, maybe?

How is this broadcast related to the BBC?

... "On Air" not "On BBC"

The Kurgan wrote: CD3: Queen Live On Air Golders Green Hippodrome, London, 13th September 1973: 1. Procession (Intro Tape) 2. Father To Son 3. Son And Daughter 4. Guitar Solo 5. Son And Daughter (Reprise) 6. Ogre Battle 7. Liar 8. Jailhouse Rock Estádio Do Morumbi, São Paulo, Brazil, 20th March 1981:9. Intro 10. We Will Rock You (Fast) 11. Let Me Entertain You 12. I’m In Love With My Car 13. Alright Alright 14. Dragon Attack 15. Now I’m Here 16. Love Of My Life Maimmarktgelände, Mannheim, Germany, 21st June 1986: 17. A Kind Of Magic 18. Vocal Improvisation 19. Under Pressure 20. Is This The World We Created 21. (You’re So Square) Baby I Don’t Care 22. Hello Mary Lou (Goodbye Heart) 23. Crazy Little Thing Called Love 24. God Save The Queen

Vocal harmony wrote: Now where's the switches marked auto tune and compression!

Gregsynth wrote: Probably the worst official Queen product I've seen in a music sense.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote: Now where's the switches marked auto tune and compression!

This likely won't be an option, as I bet 90% of the material just comes from 2" stereo tape. So if there's a silver lining... ?

Barry Durex wrote: Why are the BBC sessions in a different track order?

bootLuca wrote:

Barry Durex wrote: Why are the BBC sessions in a different track order?

Yes, session 2, 3 and 6 are in different track order How many probabilities does the full intro of Ogre Battle (session 3) has been restored?

pittrek wrote:

bootLuca wrote:

Barry Durex wrote: Why are the BBC sessions in a different track order?

Yes, session 2, 3 and 6 are in different track order How many probabilities does the full intro of Ogre Battle (session 3) has been restored?

And WWRY is split into 2 tracks, so I am afraid we lose the middle part

bootLuca wrote: How many probabilities does the full intro of Ogre Battle (session 3) has been restored?

brians wig wrote:

bootLuca wrote: How many probabilities does the full intro of Ogre Battle (session 3) has been restored?

If not, try this: /queenzone/1458877.html

bootLuca wrote:

Barry Durex wrote: Why are the BBC sessions in a different track order?

pittrek wrote: And WWRY is split into 2 tracks, so I am afraid we lose the middle part

Vocal harmony wrote: Good to see democracy is alive and well at Queenzone ;) They've removed all the negative comments on the subject from yesterday. It great that they are so open to the opinions of the people they are trying to sell too!

Barry Durex wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote: Good to see democracy is alive and well at Queenzone ;) They've removed all the negative comments on the subject from yesterday. It great that they are so open to the opinions of the people they are trying to sell too!

Queenzone removed posts?

gambri wrote: ..and is not the interview to Freddie in Sao Paulo, Radio Cidade.

softcalavera2 wrote: Ok...i think that if they ONLY release the BBC sessions WITHOUT interviews and NO live recordings. In this way i think that all of us will be happy with only 2 discs and no more. No will be comments like "why 3 discs with interviews?" Why 1 disc with three incomplete gigs?" Why Golders Green is incomplete?" I think that Queen should do the things COMPLETE or not do it directly.

Viper wrote: I guess they believe it sounds better that way.

Adam Unger (QueenVault.com) wrote: Turn On The TV! Coming soon... Queen Interlaced. A collection of classic Top Of The Pops appearances, partial live broadcasts (half of Live Aid and one song from Saturday Night Live), and half of Lisa Robinson's Freddie Mercury interview!

Val Lurex wrote: [ Other artists' releases could forever serve as the prime example of how you should formalise and package this and that release, but that hardly makes any sense as long as QPL continue to engage in their self-enhancement antics that will mean "NO complete concert releases and NO box sets with demos and outtakes. We are perfectionists, after all!".

tcc wrote: I can understand their objection to releasing demos and out-takes. Even if they want to spread the live concert songs over three tours, I can't understand why they don't choose songs that were featured only in the tour and dropped later in subsequent tours, such as Need Your Loving Tonight, in the Sao Paulo concert.

Val Lurex wrote:

tcc wrote: I can understand their objection to releasing demos and out-takes. Even if they want to spread the live concert songs over three tours, I can't understand why they don't choose songs that were featured only in the tour and dropped later in subsequent tours, such as Need Your Loving Tonight, in the Sao Paulo concert.

You're trying to find logic where there is no logic.

brians wig wrote: You know. That could almost read as new policy is "We are only putting out highlights of our concerts because we were so shite as a live band, there's only the odd song that's any good....." They've lost the plot.

earwig wrote:

brians wig wrote: You know. That could almost read as new policy is "We are only putting out highlights of our concerts because we were so shite as a live band, there's only the odd song that's any good....." They've lost the plot.

So... Er... They've officially released loads of full concerts throughout their live period!! Unless I'm missing the point?! From Rainbow to Wembley...

pittrek wrote: Loads of full concerts? 1974-03-01 Rainbow 1975-12-24 Hammersmith Odeon 1982-06-05 Milton Keynes Bowl 1986-07-12 Wembley - this can be considered full on the latest version 1986-07-27 Budapest - the audio CD is relatively full You call 3-5 concerts "loads of full concerts"? Or did "I" miss something? :-)

Rich Tea wrote: Why is this released on Virgin/EMI and not Universal? Something tells me this is not totally a QPL release but a legacy release of stuff owned by the old label. I guess as EMI are still the legal publishers they are legally bound to support this. Of course I could be wrong but I think those having a go should listen to it first and then pass judgement.....

cmsdrums wrote:

pittrek wrote: Loads of full concerts? 1974-03-01 Rainbow 1975-12-24 Hammersmith Odeon 1982-06-05 Milton Keynes Bowl 1986-07-12 Wembley - this can be considered full on the latest version 1986-07-27 Budapest - the audio CD is relatively full You call 3-5 concerts "loads of full concerts"? Or did "I" miss something? :-)

Montreal? (and Live Aid too to be really pendantic!)

cmsdrums wrote: Which is why Greg MIGHT be the right man to literally archive the stuff, work on filing it, restoring it and cataloguing, it, but I truly believe those with a musical background and the ability from a technical point of view to listen to the stuff and tell the difference between one take an another due to a different phrasing, alternate 'feel', a stray cymbal etc.... are FAR better suited to be doing that aspect of the job. From what I have seen over the last 20 years, my opinion is that he simply isn't equipped with the musical knowledge to do that.

cmsdrums wrote: Which is why Greg MIGHT be the right man to literally archive the stuff, work on filing it, restoring it and cataloguing, it, but I truly believe those with a musical background and the ability from a technical point of view to listen to the stuff and tell the difference between one take an another due to a different phrasing, alternate 'feel', a stray cymbal etc.... are FAR better suited to be doing that aspect of the job. From what I have seen over the last 20 years, my opinion is that he simply isn't equipped with the musical knowledge to do that.

dysan wrote: Does he do the narration on the Queen Collectables channel? Should probably pack that in too.

cmsdrums wrote: Growing up I really respected Tommy Vance as one of the only 'proper' rock DJs in the UK. I lost a lot of that respect when he presented the BBC radio coverage of the Freddie Tribute in 1992 and after playing 'The Miracle', he then referred to the tracks as 'America'. Ever seen the Peter Kay sketch on misheard lyrics? Well that's the worst example I've ever heard...from a professional who clearly couldn't be arsed to do his homework, on a day meant to honour the bloke who wrote the damn track!!

que.123 wrote:

cmsdrums wrote: Growing up I really respected Tommy Vance as one of the only 'proper' rock DJs in the UK. I lost a lot of that respect when he presented the BBC radio coverage of the Freddie Tribute in 1992 and after playing 'The Miracle', he then referred to the tracks as 'America'. Ever seen the Peter Kay sketch on misheard lyrics? Well that's the worst example I've ever heard...from a professional who clearly couldn't be arsed to do his homework, on a day meant to honour the bloke who wrote the damn track!!

I used to enjoy a bit of TV on the Radio! In regard to the mistake maybe he was reading from a script (that someone else had written) and, rather than draw attention to the error, just carried on regardless in the hope no one would notice? He seemed to be a big Queen fan (at least when I was listening during the late seventies and early eighties), I remember after he played the "Play the Game" single on his show for the first time he said "that band deal nothing but aces"! On a topical note I also recall recording Queen BBC sessions from his "Friday Rock Show" - good ol' Tommy RIP.

cmsdrums wrote:

que.123 wrote:

cmsdrums wrote: Growing up I really respected Tommy Vance as one of the only 'proper' rock DJs in the UK. I lost a lot of that respect when he presented the BBC radio coverage of the Freddie Tribute in 1992 and after playing 'The Miracle', he then referred to the tracks as 'America'. Ever seen the Peter Kay sketch on misheard lyrics? Well that's the worst example I've ever heard...from a professional who clearly couldn't be arsed to do his homework, on a day meant to honour the bloke who wrote the damn track!!

I used to enjoy a bit of TV on the Radio! In regard to the mistake maybe he was reading from a script (that someone else had written) and, rather than draw attention to the error, just carried on regardless in the hope no one would notice? He seemed to be a big Queen fan (at least when I was listening during the late seventies and early eighties), I remember after he played the "Play the Game" single on his show for the first time he said "that band deal nothing but aces"! On a topical note I also recall recording Queen BBC sessions from his "Friday Rock Show" - good ol' Tommy RIP.

True with the script - I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Nitroboy wrote: It doesn't sound better than what we already have. Only louder. BTW, I just received this from Amazon: "We are pleased to report that the following item will dispatch sooner than expected:   Queen "On Air"     Previous estimated arrival date: November 09 2016 - November 11 2016     New estimated arrival date: October 27 2016 - November 03 2016"

Nitroboy wrote: I got it cheap

Oscar J wrote: Am getting it for free on Apple Music.

Oscar J wrote: I don't think Apple music files can be copied.

musicland munich wrote:

Nitroboy wrote: I got it cheap

Yes, the price dropped nicely on some pages :)

Viper wrote: WWRY fast BBC session is the mix we already knew... :(

pittrek wrote: I don't understand your comments - are some samples available ? Or how do you know the stuff about We Will Rock You and Ogre Battle?

IanR wrote: [img=link This suggests that Fred was using the Mercury moniker as far back as early 1970, but still used Bulsara for official documents and forms as late as 1973.

Holly2003 wrote: Wonder where the photo come from? Is the writing from 1970? Is it possible someone wrote on it after Fred changed his name?

The Kurgan wrote: They must be joking: Super deluxe edition

pittrek wrote: And it says WITH DJ CHATTER !!! If that's true, finally a reason for me to buy it

pittrek wrote: And it says WITH DJ CHATTER !!! If that's true, finally a reason for me to buy it

The Kurgan wrote:

pittrek wrote: And it says WITH DJ CHATTER !!! If that's true, finally a reason for me to buy it

Please tell me you are joking.

The Kurgan wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: Wonder where the photo come from? Is the writing from 1970? Is it possible someone wrote on it after Fred changed his name?

All it suggests is somebody couldn't spell his surname. There is absolutely no way you can determine when that was written on it.

rocknrolllover wrote:

The Kurgan wrote:

pittrek wrote: And it says WITH DJ CHATTER !!! If that's true, finally a reason for me to buy it

Please tell me you are joking.

Yes he is

alberbal12 wrote: At Amazon.co.uk chat service said me that the "non japanese" version for 6CD will feature the comments between song and song. Solved.

Doga wrote: Honest question, what's the point of the DJ chatting?

rocknrolllover wrote:

Viper wrote: WWRY fast BBC session is the mix we already knew... :(

From where you know?

Biggus Dickus wrote:

Doga wrote: Honest question, what's the point of the DJ chatting?

To hear the questions? Har har. :D

Doga wrote:

Biggus Dickus wrote:

Doga wrote: Honest question, what's the point of the DJ chatting?

To hear the questions? Har har. :D

I meant during the Golders Green show and the BBC tracks. ha ha Also, your avatar deserves this link har har :)

cmi wrote: After studying the timings of tracks from 'Queen On Air' in iTunes (equal to 2CD version content) I have next conclusion: 1) We Will Rock You slow version track features famous narration after the song. 2) Ogre Battle features Take 2 of guitar intro. 3) No DJ's introductions. 4) POSSIBLY the last drum hit on 'Spread Your Wings' is deleted as timing of the track is 5:24 and timing of the track from 2011 Deluxe is 5:27 (no silence). Fingers crossed it's not. Anyway we have 2011 remaster.

LucasDiego wrote: There's a story from Queenonline forum that in the 2CD version, Ogre Battle won't come with the ''lost'' intro. For God's sake, don't do this Queen Productions!!

Holly2003 wrote:

LucasDiego wrote: There's a story from Queenonline forum that in the 2CD version, Ogre Battle won't come with the ''lost'' intro. For God's sake, don't do this Queen Productions!!

Personally, I haven't been on the edge of my seat for 30 years waiting for this to be released but I know many hardcore fans would appreciate it. As for Jim Beach and Queen, why would they bother giving fans what they want when they know most hardcore fans will buy anything 'new' for their collection and most casual fans won;t know the difference? They tend to work on the formula "least possible effort/expense = maximum profit." It's only when people stop buying shit that QP & Beach will release anything for the niche market.

cmi wrote: Analyzing the timings of tracks from 'Queen On Air' pre-order in iTunes (equal to 2CD version content) I have next conclusion: 2) Ogre Battle features Take 2 of guitar intro. 3) No DJ's introductions.

rocknrolllover wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

LucasDiego wrote: There's a story from Queenonline forum that in the 2CD version, Ogre Battle won't come with the ''lost'' intro. For God's sake, don't do this Queen Productions!!

Personally, I haven't been on the edge of my seat for 30 years waiting for this to be released but I know many hardcore fans would appreciate it. As for Jim Beach and Queen, why would they bother giving fans what they want when they know most hardcore fans will buy anything 'new' for their collection and most casual fans won;t know the difference? They tend to work on the formula "least possible effort/expense = maximum profit." It's only when people stop buying shit that QP & Beach will release anything for the niche market.

I doubt it. New fans new money and new boring re-release

The Real Wizard wrote: Wow ! If that's genuine, then it's an absolutely fascinating insight into early Queen history. It has generally been told that Freddie changed his last name to Mercury around 1970-71. This not only puts that theory to rest, but it narrows it down to a window of a mere few months.

The Real Wizard wrote: The more I read about what other bands' releases look like, the more faith I lose in Queen. Rainbow was a brief diversion. It's almost like they have no idea what happens outside of their bubble, and they don't want to know.

bucsateflon wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: The more I read about what other bands' releases look like, the more faith I lose in Queen. Rainbow was a brief diversion. It's almost like they have no idea what happens outside of their bubble, and they don't want to know.

fuck off allready

Hutchence wrote: Viper, it went for 32,36 GBP

Viper wrote:

Hutchence wrote: Viper, it went for 32,36 GBP

Thx a lot man! It's a really good price!

bucsateflon wrote: fuck off allready

Michael Allred wrote: So what does this "dj chatter" mean exactly? It's part of the track itself? Meaning you would have to skip past the stupid dj shit before the song starts or what?

cmsdrums wrote: Roger was interviewed on BBC Radio 5Live yesterday....I had to laugh when he was asked if he enjoyed listened back to the old interviews on the CDs in the 'On Air' set, and his reply was pretty much 'Oh God no, who wants to listen to those'; our sentiments exactly Sir!!!

MercurialFreddie wrote: My Fairy King from Queen On Air is up on the official Queen You Tube channel. To my ears it sounds a bit cleaner (ending of the phrases, backing vocals, instrumental track) than the Queen at the Beeb release. What's more I don't know how to describe it... but it doesn't have the "new, fresh" feel to it that See What A Fool I've Been has on the NOTW deluxe edition. Hear it for yourself: link

The Kurgan wrote: ... and yet he gave it the okay for the box set :-/

brians wig wrote:

Michael Allred wrote: So what does this "dj chatter" mean exactly? It's part of the track itself? Meaning you would have to skip past the stupid dj shit before the song starts or what?

Michael. Have you not heard the session 5 recordings that have been around for years and has (I think) Bob Harris' talking between songs? It's amazing to hear all his comments, incl how the band are on tour and where you can catch them at. Listen. If that's not for you, that's fine. That's why the 2 CD set does NOT contain the DJ banter. For those of us who DO want it, well, it's on the boxset. For once, Queen have given us a choice!

MercurialFreddie wrote: Can we assume (bearing in mind that interview with Roger) that either Roger is not good enough at his job as executive producer on Queen releases or either this is a sign how much influence has the Universal / Island Records on what is released and how ?

splicksplack wrote: Roger just on Steve Wright on BBC Radio 2 saying the same thing (that he hates listening to old interviews). It's like he completely disconnects from the product his company is selling.

Michael Allred wrote:

brians wig wrote:

Michael Allred wrote: So what does this "dj chatter" mean exactly? It's part of the track itself? Meaning you would have to skip past the stupid dj shit before the song starts or what?

Michael. Have you not heard the session 5 recordings that have been around for years and has (I think) Bob Harris' talking between songs? It's amazing to hear all his comments, incl how the band are on tour and where you can catch them at. Listen. If that's not for you, that's fine. That's why the 2 CD set does NOT contain the DJ banter. For those of us who DO want it, well, it's on the boxset. For once, Queen have given us a choice!

Unless you want the cd with highlights from other shows..... So will the cd have the inane chatter included IN the song track itself or will they be separate little tracks outside of the songs themselves?

brians wig wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

brians wig wrote:

Michael Allred wrote: So what does this "dj chatter" mean exactly? It's part of the track itself? Meaning you would have to skip past the stupid dj shit before the song starts or what?

Michael. Have you not heard the session 5 recordings that have been around for years and has (I think) Bob Harris' talking between songs? It's amazing to hear all his comments, incl how the band are on tour and where you can catch them at. Listen. If that's not for you, that's fine. That's why the 2 CD set does NOT contain the DJ banter. For those of us who DO want it, well, it's on the boxset. For once, Queen have given us a choice!

Unless you want the cd with highlights from other shows..... So will the cd have the inane chatter included IN the song track itself or will they be separate little tracks outside of the songs themselves?

Sounds like you've never heard the sessions at all! OK. most bands BBC sessions (if not all) had complete songs broadcast. Perhaps the last second may have been interrupted by the DJ as the track faded out. So. Don't worry. The songs will be complete and uninterrupted. What none of us understand is why the playback order on the CD differs from the playback order of the broadcasts! It just beggers me why QPL would go to the trouble of presenting/re-creating the broadcasts on the 6CD set, but have it all out of order - unless, of course, those CDs DO have the correct running order of tracks.... QPL. Always one step ahead of everyone.... defying logic!

Michael Allred wrote: I have heard what has been officially released to date. These tracks are the songs themselves with no chatter to speak of. What I don't want is to have stupid dj chatter included IN the song's track itself. Have it on separate tracks before and after but not IN the track itself.

brians wig wrote:

Michael Allred wrote: I have heard what has been officially released to date. These tracks are the songs themselves with no chatter to speak of. What I don't want is to have stupid dj chatter included IN the song's track itself. Have it on separate tracks before and after but not IN the track itself.

Ah! I understand what you are saying now. I agree, though it makes little difference to me as I'll be ripping the CDs from the 6 pack and editing them so that I A) have a choice of listening to just the songs or the full sessions and B) putting them back into the correct order!

Cockeye wrote: If you're in the U.K. You might struggle to get the 6 disc version. I preordered it about five minutes after the press release from Amazon and looks like I'm not getting it.

AlbaNo1 wrote:

MercurialFreddie wrote: Can we assume (bearing in mind that interview with Roger) that either Roger is not good enough at his job as executive producer on Queen releases or either this is a sign how much influence has the Universal / Island Records on what is released and how ?

link Neither Brian or Roger were positive about the Queen Forever release either. They seem to have a lot less control than other classic bands over what gets put out.

Negative Creep wrote:

AlbaNo1 wrote:

MercurialFreddie wrote: Can we assume (bearing in mind that interview with Roger) that either Roger is not good enough at his job as executive producer on Queen releases or either this is a sign how much influence has the Universal / Island Records on what is released and how ?

link Neither Brian or Roger were positive about the Queen Forever release either. They seem to have a lot less control than other classic bands over what gets put out.

Universal can choose not to release something - but they have zero control on what QPL actually deliver to them for release. Universal are in a bit of a pickle with QPL, as they are unable to "extract" much if anything unreleased from their archives. Queen Forever a pointless compilation? Sure - but I'm sure Universal were and are struggling to get many release ideas beyond QPL, and it isn't the first pointless compilation on the band's first label either. Regarding the interview discs - if Universal suggested their inclusion, QPL would have been able to veto their inclusion if they didn't want them included. Universal wouldn't have requested the truncacted concert material instead of the full live shows. QPL have 100% control over what is released, regardless of the impression they may sometimes give in interviews. I know some parties like to pretend QPL are being curtailed by record labels - but they are simply NOT. EMI and Universal would release basically ANY unreleased material delivered to them, but they can't get the material out of QPL. Simple as that. Brian and Roger are the ones blocking quality archive releases.

cmsdrums wrote: The chatter is just very short comments by Peel and Harris after a few of the tracks. Also some DJ voice overs on Golders Green. Golders Green bass guitar and drums sound great (same plug in as Rainbow?), but the guitar is a bit fuzzy on one channel and the lead vocal is still distant. Brazil live stuff sounds they may not have the multis but they have done some work to clean up a stereo mix - which gives hope for Hammersmith 79 if that's all they have but are happy to release it. Mannheim sounds like a full remix - sounds really nice and full; a lovely 'live' feel but with everything really audible. Would love this or Knebworth in full now! (And Wembley with this guitar sound which is well up in the mix but really 'fat'). Can I just ask for clarification on 'It's Late' - did they not actually play the 'I've been so long...' Middle 8 part with the guitar solo after, as it's not in here....I lost my bootleg copy years ago and have never replaced it - cheers

cmsdrums wrote: Can I just ask for clarification on 'It's Late' - did they not actually play the 'I've been so long...' Middle 8 part with the guitar solo after, as it's not in here....I lost my bootleg copy years ago and have never replaced it - cheers

Jake12 wrote: cant wait to hear the Mannheim show!

rocknrolllover wrote: Downloaded Queen on Air in mp3. Spread Your wings has last kick drum in the end

Viper wrote: See What A Fool I've Been seems to have that old sound... The remix version on the 2011 bonus disc is way better!

cmi wrote:

Viper wrote: See What A Fool I've Been seems to have that old sound... The remix version on the 2011 bonus disc is way better!

Of course they used the original 1973 mix. And it's great as they are different. And now we have both in excellent quality.

rocknrolllover wrote: And great intro on Ogre Battle existance

The Fairy King wrote:

rocknrolllover wrote: And great intro on Ogre Battle existance

Yeah it's great. It's on Spotify. They edited it a bit...can't blame em tho.

cmsdrums wrote: The chatter is just very short comments by Peel and Harris after a few of the tracks. Also some DJ voice overs on Golders Green.

bucsateflon wrote: "It's late" what a mess

Michael Allred wrote:

cmsdrums wrote: The chatter is just very short comments by Peel and Harris after a few of the tracks. Also some DJ voice overs on Golders Green.

So the chatter is actually part of and included in the song track itself?

The Kurgan wrote: Is there any difference with Ogre Battle intro on the 2cd and 6cd? Anyone have a problem with the end of WWRY slow version?

The Kurgan wrote: Is there any difference with Ogre Battle intro on the 2cd and 6cd? Anyone have a problem with the end of WWRY slow version?

DAZH wrote:

The Kurgan wrote: Is there any difference with Ogre Battle intro on the 2cd and 6cd? Anyone have a problem with the end of WWRY slow version?

The 6CD version does have the solo at the beginning of Ogre Battle just got wrong running time on sleeve

joesilvey wrote: Also, all of my versions from BBC Session 1 have the stereo channels reversed in comparison with the On Air versions. Anyone know which is truly right? Fairly sure my bootlegs from Session 1 are the JSS shared masters...

rocknrolllover wrote: White Queen sounds like almost Rainbow from Queen II tour to me

Viper wrote: I understand that. But I have to say that it would have been great to have all the BBC sessions with the fresh sound on See What A Fool I've Been 2011 remix.

joesilvey wrote: I don't notice any problems with the end of WWRY slow on the download - I'm picking up the 2CD version from Best Buy here in the U.S. later this morning... I DID notice some slight speed / pitch differences between a couple of tracks vs. my versions downloaded from here. Haven't yet compared with album versions to check pitch. How silly of me to assume that surely whatever QPL put on this new set would be speed/pitch correct. Hopefully they are... Also, all of my versions from BBC Session 1 have the stereo channels reversed in comparison with the On Air versions. Anyone know which is truly right? Fairly sure my bootlegs from Session 1 are the JSS shared masters...

Jake12 wrote:

joesilvey wrote: I don't notice any problems with the end of WWRY slow on the download - I'm picking up the 2CD version from Best Buy here in the U.S. later this morning... I DID notice some slight speed / pitch differences between a couple of tracks vs. my versions downloaded from here. Haven't yet compared with album versions to check pitch. How silly of me to assume that surely whatever QPL put on this new set would be speed/pitch correct. Hopefully they are... Also, all of my versions from BBC Session 1 have the stereo channels reversed in comparison with the On Air versions. Anyone know which is truly right? Fairly sure my bootlegs from Session 1 are the JSS shared masters...

I'm also in the states could you let me know if they have the 6cd box?

brians wig wrote:

joesilvey wrote: Also, all of my versions from BBC Session 1 have the stereo channels reversed in comparison with the On Air versions. Anyone know which is truly right? Fairly sure my bootlegs from Session 1 are the JSS shared masters...

Joe. You're in the US, yes? The Hollywood Records CD from the 90's had the channels reversed, so maybe that's what you've got used to and why this new version sounds wrong to you?

bucsateflon wrote: "It's late" what a mess

joesilvey wrote:

brians wig wrote:

joesilvey wrote: Also, all of my versions from BBC Session 1 have the stereo channels reversed in comparison with the On Air versions. Anyone know which is truly right? Fairly sure my bootlegs from Session 1 are the JSS shared masters...

Joe. You're in the US, yes? The Hollywood Records CD from the 90's had the channels reversed, so maybe that's what you've got used to and why this new version sounds wrong to you?

Yep - New Jersey, USA It's only the Session 1 tracks, so perhaps they are from the HR CD. I looked at the waveforms as well - definitely inverted L & R channels. Easy enough to fix. Notably, for certain tracks (KYA and Liar for sure), I like my old version better than the On Air masters...

MercuryArts wrote:

joesilvey wrote:

brians wig wrote:

joesilvey wrote: Also, all of my versions from BBC Session 1 have the stereo channels reversed in comparison with the On Air versions. Anyone know which is truly right? Fairly sure my bootlegs from Session 1 are the JSS shared masters...

Joe. You're in the US, yes? The Hollywood Records CD from the 90's had the channels reversed, so maybe that's what you've got used to and why this new version sounds wrong to you?

Yep - New Jersey, USA It's only the Session 1 tracks, so perhaps they are from the HR CD. I looked at the waveforms as well - definitely inverted L & R channels. Easy enough to fix. Notably, for certain tracks (KYA and Liar for sure), I like my old version better than the On Air masters...

I'll try this again, Where in Jersey, Joe? I'm 15 minutes over the Delaware Memorial Bridge in Wilmington.

bootLuca wrote:

bucsateflon wrote: "It's late" what a mess

What a great crunch from Brian here!

The Kurgan wrote:

bootLuca wrote:

bucsateflon wrote: "It's late" what a mess

What a great crunch from Brian here!

It's loud.

mooghead wrote: John's left index finger will give me nightmares for ever.....

The Real Wizard wrote: Interesting - in Doing All Right, the bit of guitar feedback at 3:44 has been removed. Is this OK, or are the purists mortified and soon to compare this to George Lucas messing with the original Star Wars films for the DVD releases?

The Real Wizard wrote: Interesting - in Doing All Right, the bit of guitar feedback at 3:44 has been removed. Is this OK, or are the purists mortified and soon to compare this to George Lucas messing with the original Star Wars films for the DVD releases?

Oscar J wrote: Listening to Golders Green now. It’s squeaky clean, and Deacon and, in particular, Taylor are very loud in the mix. Freddie is still a bit buried unfortunately Interesting though how a mix from 1973 can (instrumentally) still sound better than what they managed with Hammy 75 in 2015. There’s a nice and punchy tape compression and all the instruments, every tom on Taylors kit is clear as a day, and his snare never sounded better - being tuned higher than usual with a lovely crack to it. This show just highlights the band - it's one of few shows that aren't mainly about Freddie when listening back to it.

tcc wrote:

Oscar J wrote: Listening to Golders Green now. It’s squeaky clean, and Deacon and, in particular, Taylor are very loud in the mix. Freddie is still a bit buried unfortunately Interesting though how a mix from 1973 can (instrumentally) still sound better than what they managed with Hammy 75 in 2015. There’s a nice and punchy tape compression and all the instruments, every tom on Taylors kit is clear as a day, and his snare never sounded better - being tuned higher than usual with a lovely crack to it. This show just highlights the band - it's one of few shows that aren't mainly about Freddie when listening back to it.

If Freddie still sounds distant, could it be that this release is also from a bootleg ?

The Kurgan wrote: But the DJ talk overlaps some of the fade outs.

The Kurgan wrote: I'm not saying it's in the right order, does anyone really know the right order?

calculon559 wrote: Did a quick comparison of Session 5 between On Air and the russian boot In The Mirror. Looks like only SOME of the DJ talk is on the official release Basically, chatter after a song is intact, but chatter preceding a song has been excised. Example: "Well, that's the best thing I've heard in a long time, Queen, and 'Stone Cold Crazy' [and with a Flick of the Wrist, here's Queen]"

The Real Wizard wrote: Here's a biggie: At the end of MTRnR on session 4, Bob Harris says "that's the first of three on the programme" tonight. So what's all this about March Of The Black Queen being broadcast? Have we been peddling a myth all this time? And why has the band's archivist played along? As a giant inside joke for the last 15 years?

cmsdrums wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: Here's a biggie: At the end of MTRnR on session 4, Bob Harris says "that's the first of three on the programme" tonight. So what's all this about March Of The Black Queen being broadcast? Have we been peddling a myth all this time? And why has the band's archivist played along? As a giant inside joke for the last 15 years?

I did wonder that - perhaps it was as simple as that Harris' comment makes it clear there are three new 'in session tracks', and then he also simply plays the album version of MOTBQ, correctly introducing it as basically a plug for Queen II, and it would also fill some time as most bands would have recorded four 'live' tracks as opposed to the three Queen managed this time.

Oscar J wrote: ^ Golders Green sounds a lot better to me on the official release. But nice review otherwise!

Viper wrote:

cmsdrums wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: Here's a biggie: At the end of MTRnR on session 4, Bob Harris says "that's the first of three on the programme" tonight. So what's all this about March Of The Black Queen being broadcast? Have we been peddling a myth all this time? And why has the band's archivist played along? As a giant inside joke for the last 15 years?

I did wonder that - perhaps it was as simple as that Harris' comment makes it clear there are three new 'in session tracks', and then he also simply plays the album version of MOTBQ, correctly introducing it as basically a plug for Queen II, and it would also fill some time as most bands would have recorded four 'live' tracks as opposed to the three Queen managed this time.

The booklet states that Black Queen was played with the other 3 tracks.

The Real Wizard wrote: The Golders Green Hippodrome 73 radio broadcast has been available in complete form for over a decade (and bootlegged in part since the 70s), and the official release does not provide an increase in sound quality (although the spoken introduction by Alan Black is slightly longer). See What A Fool I've Been is cut due to sound quality (fair enough), but Jailhouse Rock is under a minute long before it fades out, making one wonder why it was even included at all.

Viper wrote: The booklet states that Black Queen was played with the other 3 tracks.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Oscar J wrote: ^ Golders Green sounds a lot better to me on the official release. But nice review otherwise!

Depends which version you have ;) There are a couple excellent copies out there, and I'm pretty sure they're available here. It's the exact same source material - they've just EQ'd it.

Krypto_98 wrote: I made a short comparison video of the original bootleg of Mannheim vs the Queen on Air version. The bass in Queen on Air sounds more prominent as well as the treble being put up a bit. link

The Real Wizard wrote:

Krypto_98 wrote: I made a short comparison video of the original bootleg of Mannheim vs the Queen on Air version. The bass in Queen on Air sounds more prominent as well as the treble being put up a bit. link

Ahh, it all depends on which version you're working with ! You say it's the "original bootleg", but this is definitely a later version - maybe even the cassette copy from radio. The very first bootleg release was Done Under Pressure, in 1986: link This and On Air are more or less identical.

The Kurgan wrote: Why do we only get mono when there was supposedly a stereo broadcast of São Paulo on Jovem Pan 2 FM? Also, if the 6CD version is from the same masters as the 2CD, how can the DJ chatter overlap the fade out?

cmi wrote:

The Kurgan wrote: Why do we only get mono when there was supposedly a stereo broadcast of São Paulo on Jovem Pan 2 FM? Also, if the 6CD version is from the same masters as the 2CD, how can the DJ chatter overlap the fade out?

All these DJ chats are specially mixed with clean masters for this release.

Negative Creep wrote: So, no one is arsed that the Mannheim tracks have been mastered from MP3?

Negative Creep wrote: So, no one is arsed that the Mannheim tracks have been mastered from MP3?

TomP63 wrote: I always thought that the Deep Cuts version of MoTBQ was played as an BBC session. Or am I wrong? Was MoTBQ only re-mixed for the Deep Cuts album then? Tom

MercurialFreddie wrote: We also have to clarify some things here. There are two following questions which should be answered: 1) With Queen On Air, was the purpose of this release presenting to us what was heard and in what quality on the day of the original broadcast? 2) Did Queen Archivist or someone from the Queen Productions went to local radio archives (BBC, Argentinian and German Radio) and looked for the best possible sources ? Or if the answer to the question 1) is "yes", Queen Productions has in their archives a better sources but presented us the quality in which the material on the release was presented on the original day of the broadcast ?

The Real Wizard wrote: So here's my overall two cents: I'm happy with this release, but not ecstatic. There's a lot that they got right, and a lot that they could've done so much better. Let's start with the good: The BBC sessions are now out in their entirety, full stop. Every note, exactly as it was played. No overdubbing, no fixes (except for two very small adjustments in sessions 1 and 2 as mentioned earlier in this thread), and no loudness war. The BBC tracks on the 2011 remasters were partly brickwalled, but in 2016 they breathe as they should. There is little new here for those of us who have keenly collected every morsel of unreleased Queen music they can find (the intro to Ogre Battle is now happily reunited with the rest of the track in excellent quality, and sessions 2 and 4 particularly sound much better that what we'd heard), but for the wider audience this is a significant chapter in the Queen story out there for the taking now. Well done, QP. The 6 disc version has DJ commentary (sometimes abridged) after most of the tracks, which is a delightful addition if we're looking for a period piece here. And for those who don't dig the idea, the 2 disc and LP versions have just the music. Everybody wins. Many of the interviews are unheard, and are well worth a gander. But a couple of the ones that have circulated for years present some issues. They used the standard copy for the Kenny Everett one and did some god-awful hiss reduction on it. What kind of professional was actually satisfied with these results? All I hear in the musical segments is digital artifacts, and an overall digital swirl in the tape hiss. It was better as it was. And they significantly cut the 1977 interview by over 20 minutes, despite having released the whole thing with their 40th anniversary book (well, they released only half of it at first, but that's a whole other story). The 1989 interview is missing over ten minutes as well. It only makes one wonder how much of the unheard material is abridged. The Golders Green Hippodrome 73 radio broadcast has been available in complete form for over a decade (and bootlegged in part since the 70s), and the official release does not provide an increase in sound quality (although the spoken introduction by Alan Black is slightly longer). See What A Fool I've Been is cut due to sound quality (fair enough), but Jailhouse Rock is under a minute long before it fades out, making one wonder why it was even included at all. And then we have incomplete versions of Sao Paulo 81 and Mannheim 86. The latter is forgettable, as a recording of equal quality has been out on bootleg since 1986. The live disc is under 74 minutes long, so even with their butchering philosophy there was room for one or two more Sao Paulo tracks. But for the entire Sao Paulo show not to be included is a travesty, as it is better sound quality than any previous FM or bootleg copy we've heard. However, this does highlight a spot of encouragement - they are now willing to release uncut mono recordings when they were previously all about multi-tracks. It remains bizarre that QP has not jumped onto the digital medium of selling unheard concerts for download. If money is what they're after, then they should dip into Brian's catalogue of mono and stereo soundboard tapes and release them for £10 apiece. Thousands of people would buy every single one that upgraded what was on the bootleg market. The "top 100 bootlegs" project was rancid, where they sold audience recordings that ran at the wrong speed and inferior copies of shows they officially released. A version 2.0, where they actually listened to experts who know what the fanbase wants, could usher in an era of not only dialogue but utmost satisfaction for all parties. And in the digital realm this is remarkably easy to achieve. The failures of the On Air release would be instantly forgiven. The effort would be minimal - bake the tapes, transfer them to digital, and put them up for download. They will sell. Until then - On Air is a reminder that QP have the capacity to get it right, but often fall short of the mark. Had they left it as a 2 disc release, it would be a 10/10. But choosing to do an expanded version with so many flaws and omissions drops it to a 7/10. Now bring on the 76-79 live stuff !

Queenman!! wrote:

MercurialFreddie wrote: We also have to clarify some things here. There are two following questions which should be answered: 1) With Queen On Air, was the purpose of this release presenting to us what was heard and in what quality on the day of the original broadcast? 2) Did Queen Archivist or someone from the Queen Productions went to local radio archives (BBC, Argentinian and German Radio) and looked for the best possible sources ? Or if the answer to the question 1) is "yes", Queen Productions has in their archives a better sources but presented us the quality in which the material on the release was presented on the original day of the broadcast ?

---------- I think that depends on the publishing rights and ownership. Probably queen has access to the orginal mastertapes and made a perfect scan of it with the best modern technology. The OLd copy of the master from the bbc tapes isn't used I think. QP has to work with the BBC as there are clear logo 's of them on all the packaging formats, and pay a decent amount of money or a percentage of the earnings. Depends on the deal they made.

MercurialFreddie wrote: That's great when it comes to the BBC material but what about the audio sources of the live material ? Is it possible that they have pre-FM source, copy of the masters from the respective radio stations ? As for the Golder's Green... Was it recorded that way on that particular day in 1973, that even with access to the BBC master, you can't do anything with Freddie's voice being so low in the mix ?

The Real Wizard wrote:

MercurialFreddie wrote: That's great when it comes to the BBC material but what about the audio sources of the live material ? Is it possible that they have pre-FM source, copy of the masters from the respective radio stations ? As for the Golder's Green... Was it recorded that way on that particular day in 1973, that even with access to the BBC master, you can't do anything with Freddie's voice being so low in the mix ?

Hard to say - I have my doubts with Mannheim, and the other two are maybes. Only the players involved know for sure. But to be absolutely fair - these are almost certainly the best sources possible for these shows, so credit where credit is due. GG is a stereo master, not 16 or 24 track - what we have is what we have.

Nitroboy wrote: What about the Mannheim '86 audio we got in 2012? https://youtu.be/bnM2Qmer33s?t=2m52s

BETA215 wrote:

Nitroboy wrote: What about the Mannheim '86 audio we got in 2012? https://youtu.be/bnM2Qmer33s?t=2m52s

Isn't that sourced from the Magic Years (1986) documentary?

Nitroboy wrote:

BETA215 wrote:

Nitroboy wrote: What about the Mannheim '86 audio we got in 2012? https://youtu.be/bnM2Qmer33s?t=2m52s

Isn't that sourced from the Magic Years (1986) documentary?

It is.

Nitroboy wrote: http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/117888

The Kurgan wrote: I thought some of the sessions were only 16/48.

brians wig wrote: Session 3 is sourced from 16/48.

Wilki Amieva wrote:

brians wig wrote: Session 3 is sourced from 16/48.

Interesting... Do you have a source for that fact?

BETA215 wrote: Esta es la fuente: link

Wilki Amieva wrote:

BETA215 wrote: Esta es la fuente: http://www.e-onkyo.com/music/album/uml00602557264968

Gracias. No se me ocurrio mirar en Onkyo... Generalmente era yo el que hacía de enlace entre Onkyo y QPL. No trabajo más en QueenOnline desde enero de este año.

Sunshine wrote:

Wilki Amieva wrote:

BETA215 wrote: Esta es la fuente: http://www.e-onkyo.com/music/album/uml00602557264968

Gracias. No se me ocurrio mirar en Onkyo... Generalmente era yo el que hacía de enlace entre Onkyo y QPL. No trabajo más en QueenOnline desde enero de este año.

Could you speak English? Muchos gracias

brians wig wrote:

The Kurgan wrote: I thought some of the sessions were only 16/48.

Session 3 is sourced from 16/48. However, like the 2011 remasters, 24/96 "masters" were created as the output files and it's these which are being offered for sale online.

Negative Creep wrote: But even that is bollocks as the Sessions 3 tracks all have the same 21khz low pass filter as the original Beeb release. That confirms that it's basically a rip of the original CD, not taken from any higher quality source.

chromant wrote: Yes, how lucky to have Queen on Air Not like the Floyd box... poor Pink Floyd fans, they even get a live unoboxing and explanation of the sources used (multitracks, monos etc..) and Nick Mason that answering fans' questions link

Holly2003 wrote:

chromant wrote: Yes, how lucky to have Queen on Air Not like the Floyd box... poor Pink Floyd fans, they even get a live unoboxing and explanation of the sources used (multitracks, monos etc..) and Nick Mason that answering fans' questions link

In Classic Rock magazine Nick Mason said PF pondered if there was any point releasing different versions of songs and they concluded: "We may as well put it out. Because for the people who really want these sort of things, they can have it."

Negative Creep wrote:

brians wig wrote:

The Kurgan wrote: I thought some of the sessions were only 16/48.

Session 3 is sourced from 16/48. However, like the 2011 remasters, 24/96 "masters" were created as the output files and it's these which are being offered for sale online.

But even that is bollocks as the Sessions 3 tracks all have the same 21khz low pass filter as the original Beeb release. That confirms that it's basically a rip of the original CD, not taken from any higher quality source.

fruhzs wrote: Cant find the 6 cd box set anywhere here in Brazil. Maybe someone else from here has been able to find it. Hopefully next time I travel to the U.S. I can, cause in November a week and a half ago I was there and couldn't find it there either.

MercurialFreddie wrote:

Negative Creep wrote:

brians wig wrote:

The Kurgan wrote: I thought some of the sessions were only 16/48.

Session 3 is sourced from 16/48. However, like the 2011 remasters, 24/96 "masters" were created as the output files and it's these which are being offered for sale online.

But even that is bollocks as the Sessions 3 tracks all have the same 21khz low pass filter as the original Beeb release. That confirms that it's basically a rip of the original CD, not taken from any higher quality source.

But if the BBC's logo is often present in this release then they must have at least tried to find the master tape of that session and look what can they do with it... Or maybe it was in that bad shape that they didn't even want to do anything with it ?

matt z wrote: It didn't sell. Was hardly promoted etc. The dual discs sell for about $7-10. (*plus shipping in most cases) I just wanted to see how low it'd go.

alberbal12 wrote: Apart from the fake appearance in the font, the discs inside the box and the booklet are the same as in the original version? It is so interesting...