QueenZone discussion #1448104

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Freddie invited him to do chorus in a song from News Of The World!

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: He didn't todl me the song. I can imagine Sheer Heart Attack

The Fairy King wrote: Didn't he and Sid totally diss Freddie and Queen in an interview back then? I can't find the footage, but it is/was on YouTube. John always struck me as a poser, totally manufactured by Malcolm McLaren. In recent interviews you can almost see him break, not being able to keep up the farce anymore. This is apparent in his recent interview with Piers Morgan.

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: John Lydon a posser? Woooh. Listen his discography with P.I.L. The Fairy King. If you don't know about anything, don't talk, don't write. Read and listen, Mr. Feracious.

Costa86 wrote:

The Fairy King wrote: Didn't he and Sid totally diss Freddie and Queen in an interview back then? I can't find the footage, but it is/was on YouTube. John always struck me as a poser, totally manufactured by Malcolm McLaren. In recent interviews you can almost see him break, not being able to keep up the farce anymore. This is apparent in his recent interview with Piers Morgan.

As far as I know, it was only Sid Vicious who said a couple of nasty things about Freddie, namely that he looked like a Turk (not sure that's a bad thing, but apparently he thought so) and that he was appalingly ugly with a thick beard - something to that effect. I can't find it on YouTube anymore either. Sid was just an absolutely obnoxious and destructive piece of work. Anyway, John Lydon has turned out to be quite an intelligent bloke who usually manages to say a few smart things in interviews. He himself now says that the whole concept of anarchy was just a con to make people believe they had some type of power, when in reality anarchy would never work and is one of the worst possible systems. He also mentioned, way back in the 70s, in an interview which wasn't broadcast, that Jimmy Savile was a hypocrite and a seedy perv. This only came out after Savile was outed as the nation's biggest sex offender. That alone wins him some respect in my book - and I'm glad to hear he was a fan of Queen.

The Fairy King wrote:

Yes, the Savile subject was especially shocking. The guy apparantly warned the media...they didn't do shit about it. It's possible his reputation back then('78) caused people to not take him seriously.

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: The Fairly King, thanks about your corrections, but sorry, I don't have tits so don't try to cruise to me;) I like to explain me better in written english, so thank you very much darling :) Rotten or Lydon, if you read the real history about the Sex Pistols (I recommended to you the documentary The Filth and the Fury), wasn't negative, was against the monarchy and when he said no future, was no future with that situation in England, so the british would react and imagine a better future. And listen Public Image Limited. You willlisten a very difficult music, very strange. The Sex Pistols record is a masterpiece, even Roger Taylor said it. About Freddie talking about Sid Vicious. link

mooghead wrote: John Lydon is the luckiest man to ever make a living out of music. He literally was in the right place at the right time. He actually has no talent whatsoever.

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: link The Fairly Queen, I was only joking (like the Rod Steweart's song!)

mooghead wrote: John Lydon is the luckiest man to ever make a living out of music. He literally was in the right place at the right time. He actually has no talent whatsoever.

Marknow wrote:

mooghead wrote: John Lydon is the luckiest man to ever make a living out of music. He literally was in the right place at the right time. He actually has no talent whatsoever.

Tut tut tut, very uninformed post. JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era. He was sold out and exploited by management but still remains a very respected figure by critics and rightly so.

The Fairy King wrote:

Marknow wrote:

mooghead wrote: John Lydon is the luckiest man to ever make a living out of music. He literally was in the right place at the right time. He actually has no talent whatsoever.

Tut tut tut, very uninformed post. JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era. He was sold out and exploited by management but still remains a very respected figure by critics and rightly so.

Are these the same critics who who treated Queen like shit? Why should we care about what they respected? NME made it look like punk was a big deal, but it was just a fad.

mooghead wrote: "JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era" The first part of this is completely and utterly irrelevant. The second part has absolutely nothing to do with any talent JL did or didn't have.

Marknow wrote:

The Fairy King wrote:

Marknow wrote:

mooghead wrote: John Lydon is the luckiest man to ever make a living out of music. He literally was in the right place at the right time. He actually has no talent whatsoever.

Tut tut tut, very uninformed post. JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era. He was sold out and exploited by management but still remains a very respected figure by critics and rightly so.

Are these the same critics who who treated Queen like shit? Why should we care about what they respected? NME made it look like punk was a big deal, but it was just a fad.

Who cares about what NME said about Queen in the 70's?

Marknow wrote:

mooghead wrote: "JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era" The first part of this is completely and utterly irrelevant. The second part has absolutely nothing to do with any talent JL did or didn't have.

It's become clear to me that you are clinically retarded. Or maybe you are just illiterate. Either way, next time you see your mother punch her in the face for raising you so poorly and drinking heavily while she was pregnant.

The Fairy King wrote:

Marknow wrote:

The Fairy King wrote:

Marknow wrote:

mooghead wrote: John Lydon is the luckiest man to ever make a living out of music. He literally was in the right place at the right time. He actually has no talent whatsoever.

Tut tut tut, very uninformed post. JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era. He was sold out and exploited by management but still remains a very respected figure by critics and rightly so.

Are these the same critics who who treated Queen like shit? Why should we care about what they respected? NME made it look like punk was a big deal, but it was just a fad.

Who cares about what NME said about Queen in the 70's?

I don't and i was talking about 'critics' in general. :')

Marknow wrote:

The Fairy King wrote:

Marknow wrote:

The Fairy King wrote:

Marknow wrote:

mooghead wrote: John Lydon is the luckiest man to ever make a living out of music. He literally was in the right place at the right time. He actually has no talent whatsoever.

Tut tut tut, very uninformed post. JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era. He was sold out and exploited by management but still remains a very respected figure by critics and rightly so.

Are these the same critics who who treated Queen like shit? Why should we care about what they respected? NME made it look like punk was a big deal, but it was just a fad.

Who cares about what NME said about Queen in the 70's?

I don't and i was talking about 'critics' in general. :')

Well now, you did name NME in your post regarding the punk movement and they were highly critical of Queen in the 70's, my sincere apologies if I did draw an incorrect conclusion from that..

The Fairy King wrote:

I forgive you. Now apologize to mooghead as well, cuz that was uncalled for. :P

Sebastian wrote: I still feel like calling that BV's rumour into question. Unless Mr Lydon was talking about an unreleased track, where would have Freddie invited him to sing? It would've only made sense for Fred to invite him to sing on one of his (Freddie's) own songs, which leaves us: * Champions: Unlikely. * Get Down, Make Love: Disproved by the multi's. * My Melancholy Blues: Has no backing vocals.

dysan wrote: I believe it. 'Invited' doesn't mean it happened. The song probably wouldn't even have been mentioned. Just pop in when you can.

dysan wrote: I believe it. 'Invited' doesn't mean it happened. The song probably wouldn't even have been mentioned. Just pop in when you can.

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Dysan, don't try to reason with a wall. I did interviews with Roger Taylor in person, with Mack in person, but this guy looks like know more than anybody.

The Fairy King wrote:

dysan wrote: I believe it. 'Invited' doesn't mean it happened. The song probably wouldn't even have been mentioned. Just pop in when you can.

That's not the point. Why do you believe the story that he had contact with Rotten in the first place? Unless he/she can back it up with proof, i say we should treat it as gossip and nothing more. Especially now we have seen more of his/her personality. :')

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Thanks Costa. link

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Pay me a lot of money and you will have the interview. It's my job.

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: For other person, I will share for free. Not for you.

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: I understand you Val Lurex. Mentioned in the Brian Mawy web. link link Pubished in a Chile magazine, with chile written mistakes. Originally published in an spanish magazine. And of course, it will be publish the interview wih Lydon, lucky for you, in a digital magazine, in april I think, so be patient.. So you you will have the proof.

The Fairy King wrote:

Marknow wrote:

mooghead wrote: "JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era" The first part of this is completely and utterly irrelevant. The second part has absolutely nothing to do with any talent JL did or didn't have.

It's become clear to me that you are clinically retarded. Or maybe you are just illiterate. Either way, next time you see your mother punch her in the face for raising you so poorly and drinking heavily while she was pregnant.

You are the one not reading the posts and you're calling someone else illiterate? Not to mention the fact you're just being offensive. What the hell is up with people not reading the posts and just going full retard? XD

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: I recorded the interview by my digital voice recorder. But I don't now how to cut a piece, so I recorded again with my digital voice recording in my computer speakers, hahaha. Or jajaja, spanish way. link There you have the proof. The Fairly King, that must frack you! You can't call me again liar Mr. Ferocious!

master marathon runner wrote:

The Fairy King wrote:

Marknow wrote:

mooghead wrote: "JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era" The first part of this is completely and utterly irrelevant. The second part has absolutely nothing to do with any talent JL did or didn't have.

It's become clear to me that you are clinically retarded. Or maybe you are just illiterate. Either way, next time you see your mother punch her in the face for raising you so poorly and drinking heavily while she was pregnant.

You are the one not reading the posts and you're calling someone else illiterate? Not to mention the fact you're just being offensive. What the hell is up with people not reading the posts and just going full retard? XD

. there you go again about folk "not reading the post" - do you ever change the fucking record? For Christ's sake get a new friggin scriptwriter.

master marathon runner wrote: Blah blah blah, the whole community is laughing at you, as usual. Hahaha. Pumpkin headed nanny goat.

Ozz wrote: Queen can't be more far apart from Punk

Ozz wrote: I think it's totally plausible that Lydon was invited to sing SHA. Even Champions (It has a massive chorus).

Ozz wrote: Sebastian may know lots of facts but no one here in the thread was physically there around that time to confirm the information.

Ozz wrote: God. I'm too old for this. "someone is wrong in the internet"

matt z wrote: Dear God, we're calling Sasha Grey a perfect woman? ???? What fucking age is this?

Costa86 wrote:

matt z wrote: Dear God, we're calling Sasha Grey a perfect woman? ???? What fucking age is this?

LOL Indeed.

Bohardy wrote: Nobody at any point in this thread has suggested that he did, and I don't think anybody (apart from you?) is even entertaining this idea.

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: He didn't todl me the song. I can imagine Sheer Heart Attack

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: I think Sheer Heart Attack would be the song. Only chorus, and Roger Taylor liked and still likes some punk bands like The Sex Pistols or The Clash.

Ozz wrote: I think it's totally plausible that Lydon was invited to sing SHA. Even Champions (It has a massive chorus).

Bohardy wrote: Also, re the video of the 'recording' of WATC and MMB, weren't you a staunch proponent of the idea that it was a recreation, all for show, and that they can't have actually been recording anything?

Sebastian wrote: As for 'Champions', it could open another can of worms: is the recording footage authentic (as in, were they actually recording the song when they were filmed) or is it a recreation? If it's the former, then Rotten's clearly not there; the latter ... well, can of worms indeed.

Sebastian wrote: Two people suggesting and/or entertaining the idea that Rotten actually sang BV's on that album. Needless to say, I'm neither of those people.