Live in Buenos Aires 1981 [Chief Mouse 2016 Edition] [QueenConcerts]

Live in Buenos Aires 1981 [Chief Mouse 2016 Edition]

Chief Mouse 02.01.2016 06:58	I was planning to post this on December 31, then January 1 but things got delayed as encoding took longer than I expected (roughly 100 hours). So anyway here it is. I'd like to present you what is likely the best looking version of Buenos Aires to date. Anything better is very welcome because even with all that went into this, it's still not perfect and can never be perfect as there is only so much one can do with an old VHS sourced transfer. 2015 wasn't exactly big as far as my shares so this is the last present of 2015 from me to Queenzone and this is thanks to a couple of people who asked me to do the whole concert as I only did WATC and couldn't have been bothered to do the full thing otherwise. Audio - * Track 1 - a mix by Sue Dounim which can be found here. * Track 2 - original audio (slightly EQ'd by me). Video - * The logos (QTV; QUEEN) were made semi-transparent (you can call them grey). I did this because some people really dislike the blurry smudged blob that simple delogo process creates. So this way the logos are still there but should be less annoying. * The noise was pretty heavy and outlines around objects weren't solid but slightly ragged and jittery, if you know what I mean. I reduced these issues to minimum. * The green tinge is removed. Some comments - I was planning to post 2 versions - 50 FPS progressive and 25 FPS interlaced. The reason I am not posting the latter right now is that it would take too long time to do it properly as I'd pretty much have to create and author a DVD. I actually encoded an M2V file but not quite satisfied with it because I used my finished 50 FPS MKV for conversion (in order to save time, because it would just take too long to encode it directly from my script file with filters applied) and I used MPEG-2 compression (I didn't succeed in getting H.264 to recognise field order) so the quality turned out worse and video itself seemed somewhat softer than the MKV progressive encode plus the larger file size I'd have to upload as I can't set bitrate as low as with H.264 (even if I set it 3X higher to like 9000, it still looks worse than H.264 at 3000). I would appreciate it if it wasn't uploaded on youtube without at least mentioning where it's originally from (re, Queenzone) not to mention bootlegging (don't buy this stuff people). https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/4dd1/o91s9i9qba313q97g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/99dd/6qurjgct3ka24ua7g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/4ea6/e9l4jp0x7s852x87g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/20a1/gh8bqt5u5hz9o5n7g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/625a/u9c6v17m6ow74p47g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/3d95/xpyjxxc434nhg887g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/47b9/8dl9z0aqk2bn3yd7g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/d9b6/vf55fjg6isj9lq87g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> https://mega.nz/#!hZsj3YyL!Lu4b85QYrMIbU07WpavZPMgzZYe8kuphId9qG6JYgyg Enjoy and happy 2016! :-)
pittrek 02.01.2016 07:03	Thanks, looking forward to watch the full version
DepeX 02.01.2016 07:24	Thank you very much Chief! Happy new year!
Nitroboy 02.01.2016 07:29	Amazing
dave76 02.01.2016 07:40	Another great share with us Queen fans. You sure know how to upgrade video footage as you've showed us in the past. The pics looks very promising. Thanks!
pittrek 02.01.2016 07:46	I've seen a few bits, so I have to ask :-) 1) Was I too drunk when I sent you the chapters instructions or did you deliberately kept them out ? :-) 2) You don't have the "encore gaps" - is that an intentional edit or did your copy not have that footage? Would you mind if somebody added the missing footage back?
Chief Mouse 02.01.2016 07:53	pittrek wrote: I've seen a few bits, so I have to ask :-) 1) Was I too drunk when I sent you the chapters instructions or did you deliberately kept them out ? :-) 2) You don't have the "encore gaps" - is that an intentional edit or did your copy not have that footage? Would you mind if somebody added the missing footage back? 1) I couldn't be bothered :-) Your information was probably correct. 2) Made no cuts at all. This is how the original source that I used was. Do those bits actually feature anything at all other than darkness, crowd shot or commenter babbling about? I wouldn't mind it I guess, but not too keen on the idea of re-encoding this. I mean, there's nothing crucial in those bits anyway, right?
brunogorski 02.01.2016 08:34	I WANNA MARRY YOU
pittrek 02.01.2016 08:52	Chief Mouse wrote: pittrek wrote: I've seen a few bits, so I have to ask :-) 1) Was I too drunk when I sent you the chapters instructions or did you deliberately kept them out ? :-) 2) You don't have the "encore gaps" - is that an intentional edit or did your copy not have that footage? Would you mind if somebody added the missing footage back? 1) I couldn't be bothered :-) Your information was probably correct. 2) Made no cuts at all. This is how the original source that I used was. Do those bits actually feature anything at all other than darkness, crowd shot or commenter babbling about? I wouldn't mind it I guess, but not too keen on the idea of re-encoding this. I mean, there's nothing crucial in those bits anyway, right? Just the typical shots of the audience waiting, nothing musically important.
rhapsody8 02.01.2016 09:13	Looks incredible. Lots of thanks for your excellent work and of course sharing with us... I think that 2015 will close with "From Rags To Rhapsody" but your share is the last surprise for this year.. You're a master of video restoration... Many many thanks again....
little foetus 02.01.2016 09:16	Looks pretty interesting. Thank you. :)
RadekQ 02.01.2016 09:41	Thanks for this share! What audio codec have you used, because my TV writes "audio not supported" which is very strange, as it has Dolby Digital and DTS codecs...?
Chief Mouse 02.01.2016 09:43	^ FLAC.
Biggus Dickus 02.01.2016 09:44	Thanks a lot. It looks great.
. 02.01.2016 09:47	Chief Mouse wrote: ^ FLAC. Is that wise?
Chief Mouse 02.01.2016 09:48	The Kurgan wrote: Chief Mouse wrote: ^ FLAC. Is that wise? Plays on my PC. You could say that all my videos are created mainly for viewing on computers. When I want to watch something on TV, I connect laptop (have one although I don't use it) to PC via HDMI. Plays everything and looks fine.
Chief Mouse 02.01.2016 09:52	Those who wish can extract the audio stream(s) using MKVExtractGUI2, convert them to WAV or whatever you like and mux them back to video with MKVToolNix GUI. Should take no time. Both are free, small programs and pretty self-explanatory to use. http://www.videohelp.com/software/MKVtoolnix .
Marknow 02.01.2016 10:28	Looks very nice thank you. Chief Mouse wrote: pittrek wrote: I've seen a few bits, so I have to ask :-) 1) Was I too drunk when I sent you the chapters instructions or did you deliberately kept them out ? :-) 1) I couldn't be bothered :-) Your information was probably correct. I like your style, chapterz iz for books. :P
DepeX 02.01.2016 11:21	Just a little question: how have you achieved the 50 fps? A process like MvTools or a deinterlacing method? If the latter, what plugin? Thanks a lot, I hope my question makes some sense ;-)
Chief Mouse 02.01.2016 11:37	QTGMC() deinterlacing plugin. No need for artificial upconversion with MVTools if the video is properly interlaced. Interlaced usually means it has 2 fields per frame which can be separated into 2 progressive frames. So this 50 FPS is what the camera originally captured.
Rami 02.01.2016 12:19	Great! Thank you very much for your effort and happy new year!!
vivaqueen 02.01.2016 12:39	MERCI BEAUCOUP as always your job is pure bijou happy new year
alberbal12 02.01.2016 16:28	Chief, is possible to upload a new version including chapters for every song in the gig? I can't see where is a song and where is other... Thanks in advance
bokkepoot 03.01.2016 01:00	Thanks for this share and all the work and energy you put in this project!!
musicland munich 03.01.2016 01:25	Thanks Chief ! Nice New Years Gift :)
RadekQ 03.01.2016 08:55	Chief Mouse wrote: Those who wish can extract the audio stream(s) using MKVExtractGUI2, convert them to WAV or whatever you like and mux them back to video with MKVToolNix GUI. Should take no time. Both are free, small programs and pretty self-explanatory to use. http://www.videohelp.com/software/MKVtoolnix . Did what you have said. It it working perfectly now! Thank you very much for your advice.
dive2063 03.01.2016 11:24	Thanks Chief! Happy New Year!!
MAYniac91 03.01.2016 14:11	Nice... thank you!
The Real Wizard 03.01.2016 14:22	Very nicely done ! You can turn a turd into creme brulee - seriously impressive.
Chief Mouse 03.01.2016 14:40	The Real Wizard wrote: Very nicely done ! You can turn a turd into creme brulee - seriously impressive. Ha, thanks! :-) https://i.imgflip.com/wrs32.jpg" title="made at imgflip.com"/> .
Nitroboy 03.01.2016 15:59	The Real Wizard wrote: Very nicely done ! You can turn a turd into creme brulee - seriously impressive. I'd pay for an official release, even if it looked like this (minus the QTV logo obviously). Only Queen Productions can add the caramelized sugar though.
queenero66 03.01.2016 19:15	Thank You very much for this!! :) You truly are the King of Kings
Fireplace 03.01.2016 20:11	The improvement compared to the previous "best version" I had on my HD is stunning. Thanks for all your hard work!
Viper 04.01.2016 02:44	thx!
rhapsody8 04.01.2016 03:22	Are you planning upload the full concert on your Youtube channel?
onedunpark 04.01.2016 07:25	Again, as always, outstanding work. Thanks so much.
Nitroboy 04.01.2016 08:28	rhapsody8 wrote: Are you planning upload the full concert on your Youtube channel? I think it will get blocked. Last month, I tried uploading the mixed version I shared earlier in the year, and it instantly got blocked worldwide.
Killer_queenIII 04.01.2016 08:28	...And one more concert for my collection. Thanks for your astonishing work, Chief!
gambri 04.01.2016 13:04	Great improvement! For me it would be perfect without the voice of the presenter. Great concert, I was there! Thanks a lot
brians wig 04.01.2016 18:42	gambri wrote: Great improvement! For me it would be perfect without the voice of the presenter. Great concert, I was there! Thanks a lot Well. Hernan (Snowproductions) has somehow managed to remove the presenter on his version! No. I don't have it, but if you check his website for a "restoration feature"....
Sue Dounim 04.01.2016 20:04	Nitroboy wrote: rhapsody8 wrote: Are you planning upload the full concert on your Youtube channel? I think it will get blocked. Last month, I tried uploading the mixed version I shared earlier in the year, and it instantly got blocked worldwide. I think its because of the Rare Live clips from this show that the official Queen channel has up.
GuitarMay 05.01.2016 01:50	Many Thanks Chief Mouse !!! Really a true fantastic work too in this Argentina show ;)
Mrmarioanonym 05.01.2016 09:51	thank you. looks like a fantastic job and i always liked this run of shows. we are truly blessed to have the South American Tour so well represented by (considering it all) good quality recordings. Are you doing something like this professionally or is it just a hobby?
Chief Mouse 05.01.2016 11:37	A hobby for about 6.5 years :-)
Bob Harley 05.01.2016 13:38	Sue Dounim wrote: Nitroboy wrote: rhapsody8 wrote: Are you planning upload the full concert on your Youtube channel? I think it will get blocked. Last month, I tried uploading the mixed version I shared earlier in the year, and it instantly got blocked worldwide. I think its because of the Rare Live clips from this show that the official Queen channel has up. I tried to upload whole thing month ago. The only blocked parts are about a minute of Another One Bites the Dust (from 0:36 of the track) and part of Freddie's improvisation.
The Real Wizard 05.01.2016 13:55	That's seriously ridiculous - it's an obscure VHS release from over 25 years ago. How many people outside of websites like this would actually know that? If QP doesn't like it, then they should put the complete video on YouTube themselves, where they'll be able to bring in advertising revenue. But this doesn't happen when your business is run by dinosaurs.
Nitroboy 05.01.2016 14:15	The Real Wizard wrote: That's seriously ridiculous - it's an obscure VHS release from over 25 years ago. How many people outside of websites like this would actually know that? If QP doesn't like it, then they should put the complete video on YouTube themselves, where they'll be able to bring in advertising revenue. But this doesn't happen when your business is run by dinosaurs. Well, parts of the Rare Live VHS has been uploaded to the official YouTube channel. This is why it's getting instantly blocked. It's not the VHS itself; it's that it's on the official page.
The Real Wizard 05.01.2016 14:26	Still ridiculous. The official Queen YouTube channel shouldn't have poorly edited video from 25 years ago. They should have newer clips that aren't available in the shops, which would maximize their advertising revenue. If people buy DVDs, they won't watch them on YouTube. Elementary internet marketing.
Chinwonder2 05.01.2016 15:00	The Real Wizard wrote: Still ridiculous. The official Queen YouTube channel shouldn't have poorly edited video from 25 years ago. They should have newer clips that aren't available in the shops, which would maximize their advertising revenue. If people buy DVDs, they won't watch them on YouTube. Elementary internet marketing. I have the full old "Best Version" on my channel and I'll be uploading this brilliant remaster in the following weeks, to get around this problem of getting blocked, I send a dispute stating (but not this exactly) "I'm not making money off from this... Brian and Roger are OK with unofficial material being uploaded (even though it's technically not unofficial but it's over 20+ years ago!) Any video so far that has had 'official' content in it I've done this and all is good! Some more of these examples include: Rare Live clips from Paris 1979, Tokyo 1979, Hammersmith '79 Shear Heart Attack, Hyde Park (You're My Best Friend from the From Rags To Rhapsody), Earls Court 7/6 Killer Queen etc! -Chin :)
Hub3 06.01.2016 02:03	Thank you very much for sharing
Hub3 06.01.2016 02:13	in my opinion i want to Hot Space Milton82 low quality to HQ or BQ quality. haha..
gambri 06.01.2016 06:54	brians wig wrote: gambri wrote: Great improvement! For me it would be perfect without the voice of the presenter. Great concert, I was there! Thanks a lot Well. Hernan (Snowproductions) has somehow managed to remove the presenter on his version! No. I don't have it, but if you check his website for a "restoration feature".... Yes, I have the Hernan edition. But I prefer this of Chief Mouse because the quality of sound and image is better. Thanks!
MERQRY 08.01.2016 21:03	brians wig wrote: gambri wrote: Great improvement! For me it would be perfect without the voice of the presenter. Great concert, I was there! Thanks a lot Well. Hernan (Snowproductions) has somehow managed to remove the presenter on his version! No. I don't have it, but if you check his website for a "restoration feature".... Well the U-MATIC has two audio tracks, one with the soundboard recording and another with -only- the presenter voice. You only have to digitalize the one with the soundboard sound. Anyway i don't know if hernan has a copy of the umatics. I don't think so cause the awful quality of his product.
March-68 10.01.2016 17:07	Thank you very much!
MERQRY 11.01.2016 16:55	http://fotos.subefotos.com/442bb5038e48cdeff9a0dfa8ec6b8552o.jpg" />
The Real Wizard 12.01.2016 00:41	MERQRY wrote: Anyway i don't know if hernan has a copy of the umatics. I don't think so cause the awful quality of his product. We really need to stop talking about that guy here. All he does is take downloads and sell them with pretty packages and menus. It's a shame, really - in a perfect world we could collaborate with him, but instead he's just a useless bootlegger in his own little bubble.
Barry Durex 13.01.2016 09:55	MERQRY wrote: http://fotos.subefotos.com/442bb5038e48cdeff9a0dfa8ec6b8552o.jpg" /> So what, where and when?
pittrek 13.01.2016 11:28	Ehm, who should I f**k to get the Sony tapes, or at least a lossless digital copy of their content?
MERQRY 13.01.2016 12:11	pittrek wrote: Ehm, who should I f**k to get the Sony tapes, or at least a lossless digital copy of their content? To me :-) Maybe 2016 could be a good year for Queen after all. All in due time, of course...
DepeX 13.01.2016 13:36	Do you mean that you'll bring here the transfer, without f***ing you, as Pittrek suggested? ;-)
alberbal12 13.01.2016 14:07	It will be stunning if real. One of the best (and wanted) unofficial releases, i think.
MERQRY 13.01.2016 14:46	I haven't decided yet. I spent many years (and money, but that isn't the point) searching for that footage. Anyway don't worry i'm not a hoarder, so sooner than later... it will surface. Everything in due time.
Nitroboy 13.01.2016 16:12	I know this may sound odd and cynical; but I feel like tapes like those are better off in the hands of fans than the QP team, who will surely find some way to fuck up an eventual release.
Chief Mouse 13.01.2016 16:16	How does the quality compare to other versions, Merqry? Looking forward to this ;)
la_ultra_zona 13.01.2016 17:57	Great Share. Thanks!
MERQRY 13.01.2016 19:36	Nitroboy wrote: I know this may sound odd and cynical; but I feel like tapes like those are better off in the hands of fans than the QP team Yeah, i'm agree with you on that. If all goes well my idea was to do a kind of "unofficial" mini box set someday. For free of course. Chief Mouse wrote: How does the quality compare to other versions, Merqry? Looking forward to this ;) At the moment i haven't watched the Sony u-matics yet. But i must say the Ampex Betacam has very (and i emphasise VERY) intresting footage from TV on it. [img=http://fotos.subefotos.com/c1ff2b11d04ac9841e840b4595dce0cao.jpg][/img] This night, or tomorrow evening i will watch and digitalize the rest. So, i will post some screenshots. They will speak better than I can. They are intresting cause (like it says on the label) both have two audio tracks. So goodbye presentator. [img=http://fotos.subefotos.com/313dd5d760c8e4f7c70656218f589bd5o.jpg][/img] The third U-matic will be the last. I guess it has the one hour long rebroadcast of the gig.
Nitroboy 14.01.2016 03:33	Ooooohhhhh boy
Barry Durex 14.01.2016 06:39	Pants need changing.
alberbal12 14.01.2016 07:21	Oh, man...
Viper 14.01.2016 08:18	Well I hope QP will get that someday in order to release it officially.
Oscar J 14.01.2016 11:34	Nitroboy wrote: I know this may sound odd and cynical; but I feel like tapes like those are better off in the hands of fans than the QP team, who will surely find some way to fuck up an eventual release. Well, QP would have a hard time competing with video treatment by Chief Mouse and audio mixing by, say, C_matt,
Nitroboy 14.01.2016 13:16	Maybe QP would do something stupid like "Includes full stage building process and soundcheck, only in the Collector's Edition on BETAMAX tape"
The Real Wizard 14.01.2016 13:32	This sure is promising !
NickESB 15.01.2016 03:19	Nitroboy wrote: Maybe QP would do something stupid like "Includes full stage building process and soundcheck, only in the Collector's Edition on BETAMAX tape" Deluxe boxset to include replica nails used to build the stage.
aristide1 15.01.2016 17:52	MERQRY wrote: This night, or tomorrow evening i will watch and digitalize the rest. So, i will post some screenshots. Drummond: Well, was it a normal day, a literal day, 24 hour day? Brady: It's possible. Drummond: Then you interpret that the day could've been a day of indeterminate length. Brady: I mean to state that it is not necessarily a 24 hour day. Drummond: It could've been 30 hours, could've been a week, could've been a month, could've been a year, could've been a hundred years, or it could've been 10 million years!
BETA215 16.01.2016 09:05	Ignore aristide1, please. Thanks. main() { int i = 0; while ( i < 5 ) { printf( "Just ignore aristide1\n"); "Just ignore aristide1 in the rest of the topics, he always writes hating comments." i = i + 1; } }
Sue Dounim 16.01.2016 09:07	yeah aristide is an asshole dont let him get to you
BETA215 16.01.2016 09:16	I have two things to say: Thanks Chief for this remaster! I've been waiting for a better looking copy to emerge, but nothing ever appeared. It goes right to my PC, in place of that heavy DVD. And MERQRY, that interesting footage from TV you say, has something to do with AOBTD? I'm very happy you could digitalize those tapes (boludo, ¡¡¡ese Betacam es de ATC!!! No entiendo como no lo han digitalizado por lo del Archivo Prisma. Espero que el material de ATC tenga mejor calidad que el de Canal 9.) I hope you share those tapes soon.
BETA215 16.01.2016 10:25	Barry Durex wrote: Pants need changing. I think I'll have to repaint the walls of my room. Too much emotions in a single day.
aristide1 16.01.2016 14:47	Lot of emotion, indeed. Barry shit his pants, Beta speaks in code and paints the walls, poor Mouse is trapped. Someone ruined his post but he hasn't the balls to say anything: "How does the quality compare to other versions, Merqry? Looking forward to this.". Take a wild guess Mouse, what is the quality of these tapes? Only the Wizard remains cool: "This sure is promising !", which means nothing and everything, in the same time.
DepeX 16.01.2016 14:57	aristide1 wrote: Lot of emotion, indeed. Barry shit his pants, Beta speaks in code and paints the walls, poor Mouse is trapped. Someone ruined his post but he hasn't the balls to say anything: "How does the quality compare to other versions, Merqry? Looking forward to this.". Take a wild guess Mouse, what is the quality of these tapes? Only the Wizard remains cool: "This sure is promising !", which means nothing and everything, in the same time. At the same time your comment has an enormous relevance.
aristide1 16.01.2016 16:17	I aspire to relevance. Most of you have an insatiable appetite for irrelevance. The few who don't, play some politically correct games who makes them irrelevant in the end. Hence the advice: "Ignore aristide, he is an asshole, don't let him get to you."
Nitroboy 16.01.2016 16:56	You know you could just piss off, since you never contribute anything but negative salty posts?
MERQRY 16.01.2016 21:50	Oh, don't care for aristide he's one of the last trolls that remains on the forum. I'm an user since 2009, I've been in worst times here, that's why I abandon it for a while. I understand the impatience, though. I'm an human being and i'm excited too with this tapes! But i will request you a little bit of patience, unlike aristide i have a little life (working, studing, making craft beer, reading for pleasure, etc) outside QZ and i'm doing my best... The u-matic player isn't mine, so i depend of other people. And well, i won't give more explanations to a forum troll who hopefully is "in danger of extinction". To the kind rest (Nitro, Deepex, Beta, Bob, Chiefmouse, Sue, etc) thanks for the good vibes, next week we will see some bits.
The Real Wizard 16.01.2016 22:36	aristide1 wrote: Barry shit his pants, Beta speaks in code and paints the walls, poor Mouse is trapped. Someone ruined his post but he hasn't the balls to say anything: "How does the quality compare to other versions, Merqry? Looking forward to this.". Take a wild guess Mouse, what is the quality of these tapes? Only the Wizard remains cool: "This sure is promising !", which means nothing and everything, in the same time. Well, I shit my pants too, but for entirely different reasons. Am I still cool?
BETA215 16.01.2016 22:44	The Real Wizard wrote: aristide1 wrote: Barry shit his pants, Beta speaks in code and paints the walls, poor Mouse is trapped. Someone ruined his post but he hasn't the balls to say anything: "How does the quality compare to other versions, Merqry? Looking forward to this.". Take a wild guess Mouse, what is the quality of these tapes? Only the Wizard remains cool: "This sure is promising !", which means nothing and everything, in the same time. Well, I shit my pants too, but for entirely different reasons. Am I still cool? You're so cool as the next door's fridge. You're always cool, even when unplugged - well, maybe a bit too hot, not that I mean anything else. (?)
aristide1 17.01.2016 15:05	MERQRY wrote: Oh, don't care for aristide he's one of the last trolls that remains on the forum. I'm an user since 2009, I've been in worst times here, that's why I abandon it for a while. I understand the impatience, though. I'm an human being and i'm excited too with this tapes! But i will request you a little bit of patience, unlike aristide i have a little life (working, studing, making craft beer, reading for pleasure, etc) outside QZ and i'm doing my best... The u-matic player isn't mine, so i depend of other people. And well, i won't give more explanations to a forum troll who hopefully is "in danger of extinction". To the kind rest (Nitro, Deepex, Beta, Bob, Chiefmouse, Sue, etc) thanks for the good vibes, next week we will see some bits. Not impatient at all. Don't have any expectation from you in terms of Sharing The Music - Announce. What do you announce, the opening of Buenos Aires Tapes Auction ? This isn't the place to post "some bits" and collect "good vibes" while waiting for the highest bid.
The Real Wizard 17.01.2016 18:00	aristide1 wrote: Not impatient at all. Don't have any expectation from you in terms of Sharing The Music - Announce. What do you announce, the opening of Buenos Aires Tapes Auction ? This isn't the place to post "some bits" and collect "good vibes" while waiting for the highest bid. Actually, that often is what this section of the forum is for. A thread becomes a springboard for people to post samples of their versions for comparison, and then the best copy emerges victorious. These things usually happen behind the scenes, but sometimes it's public. Collaboration at its finest.
jabbo5150 17.01.2016 20:54	Thanks for this. Looks great!
Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon 19.01.2016 05:20	Many thanks for this amazing work!
MERQRY 19.01.2016 13:49	Hi! Sadly the quality of the tapes (U-matic ones) is not the best :-( But anyway i'll post some samples in a couple of days. I guess is important because it's unedited footage. I still have to digitalize another Betacam but that's time is hard cause the reel tape inside is broken (cuted) and i have to fix it first. It's from a tv station (mostly for TV reports) and if it is a half of intresting that the first one... well i'm done :-)
Barry Durex 19.01.2016 16:56	When you say quality is not the best do you mean the tapes are in bad condition or they are not master copies? .....and if by cuted, you mean cut, that is easily spliced.
BETA215 19.01.2016 19:56	Those TV reports maybe shows different nights (I mean, not only the known Buenos Aires footage). Maybe it shows footage in this format: Or maybe, in this format: link
MERQRY 19.01.2016 20:07	Barry Durex wrote: When you say quality is not the best do you mean the tapes are in bad condition or they are not master copies? .....and if by cuted, you mean cut, that is easily spliced. I wrote "cuted"? Fuck, i mean cut yeah. Mmm what do you mean with "Master"? I'm always thought QP has the master, and all the tapes arround there are copies of that master. Anyway I mean my U-Matics aren't in the best condition... Well, at least I expected something better in terms of quality. Although they are intresting anyway. I'm happy to have that footage in my hands :-D But the tape that is broken it's another tape (A second Betacam SP) and has nothing to do with the U-matics. I'll fix it soon. The content of the second in the quality of the first
BETA215 19.01.2016 20:33	MERQRY wrote: The content of the second in the quality of the first What did you tried to say there?
Sue Dounim 19.01.2016 23:13	God I sure hope one of those tapes has footage from one/both of the other Buenos Aires shows. All three were filmed so I don't know why the second night is the one that always gets used, especially considering the third night is better. Even if its just that clip of AOBtD, I'd be happy cuz I've never seen it.
MERQRY 20.01.2016 01:29	Sue Dounim wrote: All three were filmed As far as i know from last night they only recorded bits of AOBTD on video
Barry Durex 20.01.2016 04:41	MERQRY wrote: Barry Durex wrote: When you say quality is not the best do you mean the tapes are in bad condition or they are not master copies? .....and if by cuted, you mean cut, that is easily spliced. Mmm what do you mean with "Master"? I'm always thought QP has the master, and all the tapes arround there are copies of that master. Anyway I mean my U-Matics aren't in the best condition... Well, at least I expected something better in terms of quality. Although they are intresting anyway. I'm happy to have that footage in my hands :-D By master copies I meant copies of the master. They should still be broadcast quality, are you saying they aren't? If so, perhaps it's the hardware you are using to play them on. Samples would be good.
MERQRY 20.01.2016 14:52	Now i got it!Two of three are definitely copies of the master and the third it's a copy of the "famous" re-broadcast of the second gig. So as you said samples would be good! I suspect of the U-matic player too
alberbal12 20.01.2016 15:18	MERQRY wrote: Now i got it!Two of three are definitely copies of the master and the third it's a copy of the "famous" re-broadcast of the second gig. So as you said samples would be good! I suspect of the U-matic player too When we can see those snippets? :)
Barry Durex 20.01.2016 15:49	MERQRY wrote: Now i got it!Two of three are definitely copies of the master and the third it's a copy of the "famous" re-broadcast of the second gig. So as you said samples would be good! I suspect of the U-matic player too Is the U-matic player ok with other tapes, or is it just your ones that don't look good?
MERQRY 22.01.2016 08:00	Double post
MERQRY 22.01.2016 08:01	Here some pictures: http://thumbs.subefotos.com/9942703c0062cd4ca55f754ee175cc8co.jpg" /> http://thumbs.subefotos.com/67d70e7910285e14839cda5107eeb985o.jpg" /> http://thumbs.subefotos.com/f1b39d39e1e80c50940f174648e4f908o.jpg" /> http://thumbs.subefotos.com/f3e421cb5df18656562e8950f3df5ee4o.jpg" /> http://thumbs.subefotos.com/5e9e48958796e1e61acbcbabc7138083o.jpg" /> Later i'll upload some video samples. As you can see quality isn't the best :-( I think the audio it's good. I'm looking foward for the second Betacam.
Nitroboy 22.01.2016 08:41	Quality looks pretty good to me :P Thanks :)
alberbal12 22.01.2016 08:47	Yes, very nice quality...
cmi 22.01.2016 08:58	Quite good, but is this 'FREDDIE MERCURY' title there throughout the whole show?
pittrek 22.01.2016 09:41	Why does it always say Freddie Mercury? Also the quality looks fantastic, what would you want for it?
Barry Durex 22.01.2016 13:18	pittrek wrote: Why does it always say Freddie Mercury? Also the quality looks fantastic, what would you want for it? Er, is this how it works now? Thought the guy was going to share it. Why start this nonsense?
DepeX 22.01.2016 13:23	It looks amazing in my opinion. Anyway, I would be very pleased if he shared it here.
pittrek 22.01.2016 13:46	Barry Durex wrote: pittrek wrote: Why does it always say Freddie Mercury? Also the quality looks fantastic, what would you want for it? Er, is this how it works now? Thought the guy was going to share it. Why start this nonsense? Not sure what you mean with "nonsense".Unless I missed some post(s) the last time I checked the owner was only thinking about sharing it, I'm just thinking about finding ways how to "motivate" him/her.
Barry Durex 22.01.2016 13:55	They already had the motivation to share it. Let's hope they still do now.
Gaabiizz 22.01.2016 14:39	Esto es genial, espero ver mas imagenes pronto... yo tambien tengo algunas cosas que emperaze a subir de a poquito... desde ya muchas gracias por esto! yo soy de Argentina y no tuve la posibilidad de verlos... ahora estoy moviendo cielo y tierra para conseguir las cintas de Rosario, vamos a ver que pasa! Pablo Padin tiene una copia de LT3 del concierto que fue entregada por un amigo mio, mi amigo perdio la cinta y ahora estamos tratando de contactarnos con Pablo, pero desgraciadamente hace oidos sordos...
Gaabiizz 22.01.2016 14:39	Perdon por el doble post...
MERQRY 22.01.2016 17:03	Maybe i set the bar too high... I see too much "video noise" there. How about the audio? Sadly the "Freddie Mercury" text is pasted over all the video. Is not the complete gig there are many little cuts beetwen songs. I bought this fotage (along with the betacams) to the local tv channel on my city for USD100. They surely used it for news, reports,etc that's why the annoying text pasted on it and the cuts beetween songs. And i guess it's at least two generations from the master.
MERQRY 22.01.2016 17:54	Tie Your Mother Down:
Nitroboy 22.01.2016 18:10	That looks great! Sound is good too! As for the Freddie Mercury text, it's possible to remove it, by using the other sources we have. Although I'm not too skilled in that area. Obviously I can't speak for people like Chief Mouse as to how long it would take to restore this and improve it.
Sue Dounim 22.01.2016 18:28	the sound is great, much cleaner than the other rebroadcast. Speaking of which, does this include Get Down, Make Love?
MERQRY 22.01.2016 20:03	Sue Dounim wrote: does this include Get Down, Make Love? Yep, it does.
Sue Dounim 22.01.2016 20:34	MERQRY wrote: Sue Dounim wrote: does this include Get Down, Make Love? Yep, it does. if I wasnt hyped before, now I'm ecstatic :DDDDDDD
MERQRY 22.01.2016 22:15
MERQRY 22.01.2016 23:50	Last sample: It's nice they used the first gig version of Save Me in the background :-D There are footage from first night, i have only little bits but i hope i could found more.
MERQRY 23.01.2016 02:02	Another One bites the dust: Rare Live VS My Tapes It's nice to see Brian and John so happy there :-D Sorry Mr. ChiefMouse for invade your post, and thanks for the patience.
Chief Mouse 23.01.2016 03:06	Thanks for your screenshots & samples, Merqry. Although are we sure it's any better? The screenshots suggest really heavy amount of noise (youtube compression reduces it) which would require heavy amounts of denoise which is not that good, apart from that it has some stronger outlines (also compared to Rare Live which was probably taken from master) although it has some more detail, but that would be partly gone when applied denoise and colours are a lot paler and it's overall darker, not to mention the "Freddie Mercury" onscreen logo which takes quite a lot of space. If we, say, remove the logo with other versions and enhance it the best we can, I still don't think it it would be worth the time (at least for me), those who are willing to do it, feel free. Here's a comparison I just put together (comparing Merqry vs my upload) - .
MERQRY 23.01.2016 03:44	I'm agree with Chief but that sample of Crazy from my source hasn't the correct colors. It was an accident with a filter, and i was too lazy to correct it. So video is not soooo pale. You're right with the rest, although. "Correct" CLTCL one: But the unseen (at least to me) crowd footage at the end with a videofeed sourced (!) version of Save Me from first gig in the background make this footage something special at least to me. Oh, and it's just me or the audio it's a tad better?
Barry Durex 23.01.2016 05:04	So these tapes are all in mono?
Bob Harley 23.01.2016 05:41	Interesting copy. YouTube compressed it, but for sure there are more details.
pittrek 23.01.2016 06:00	OK, I know I am "different" than most of the people here , but you know what made me excited the most? The video on top of this page, where you can see just the fans in front of an emtpy stage :-) Most of the copies edit this stuff out (I am STILL searching for more of the Hyde Park "pre-concert" footage), but I am obsessed with getting recordings "as complete as possible". Would you consider sharing at least these parts? Of course "at least" doesn't mean "only" :-)
Barry Durex 23.01.2016 06:44	Why an earth can't we find a good complete version of this concert after all these years that doesn't have logos slapped all over it? This still seems to be the best version around.
BETA215 23.01.2016 07:35	Yeah, the audio is definitely better. Clearer than any other tape ever surfaced. The quality of the video may not be the best, but we haven't still compared the angles, the length or we haven't seen the "extras" those tapes has.
Chief Mouse 23.01.2016 08:07	Barry Durex wrote: Why an earth can't we find a good complete version of this concert after all these years that doesn't have logos slapped all over it? This still seems to be the best version around. Best as far as logo, not the best as far as quality :) Only good compromise would be to use the top right corner from this version and edit it into a better source. Perhaps I would have done it had the full thing leaked.
Sue Dounim 23.01.2016 10:16	I just hope at least a complete audio rip comes out of all this
Barry Durex 23.01.2016 12:58	Sue Dounim wrote: I just hope at least a complete audio rip comes out of all this I think it would be mono though.
Nitroboy 23.01.2016 13:12	Does it really matter, if it sounds that much better than any other copy we currently have? :P
Sue Dounim 23.01.2016 13:16	mono or stereo it still sounds better than the "best" audio that's missing Get Down, Make Love. It's mono on Rare Live so I don't think we can expect stereo until someone comes through with a copy of the actual soundboard.
Oscar J 23.01.2016 14:40	Chief Mouse: Ideally noise reduction doesn't reduce details significantly. Have you tried Neat Video?
brians wig 23.01.2016 14:43	Barry Durex wrote: Why an earth can't we find a good complete version of this concert after all these years that doesn't have logos slapped all over it? Apart from the "QTV" (obviously), the other logos were put there by the TV station. Does anyone actually know if the concert was originally broadcast live? If that's the case, then THAT will the only recording the TV station has: complete with logos.
Nitroboy 23.01.2016 14:49	Oscar J wrote: Chief Mouse: Ideally noise reduction doesn't reduce details significantly. Have you tried Neat Video? His AviSynth scripts are far more advanced than Neat Video
Chief Mouse 23.01.2016 15:40	Oscar J wrote: Chief Mouse: Ideally noise reduction doesn't reduce details significantly. Have you tried Neat Video? Best explained if you've ever tried to denoise a grainy film photograph or grainy film HD video, some of the grain is actually detail, if you heavily remove it you also remove some of the detail hence the video would appear a bit more like plastic, which is because the denoiser probably isn't as smart to, say, differentiate some small spots or bumps on Freddie's cheek as detail instead of noise and other small things like that. In this case the detail is just covered with heavy noise so it's essentially the same situation. But then again it depends on how much you consider "significantly" :-) I've been using Neat Video since about 2010, usually I use MVDegrain2 for simple denoise tasks in Avisynth though. The raw source of Merqry most likely can be processed without a big loss of detail, in fact this very video on this thread was pretty noisy too, but Merqry's video seems even more so. The more noisy the video, the worse (like plastic) it will look once the noise is completely removed, usually it should compromise some small detail in exchange for a cleaner overall look. It would be much easier to say how it would look if we had a raw sample though. Hard to say from a few screenshots. I don't usually use Neat Video because to my knowledge Avisynth has many better options concerning different types of noise or grain. Neat Video is good for most videos though it will never accomplish something like this - Sample of my 35mm photo which I denoised for Dreamstime stock site (they require really clean photos). Here is a comparison cropped at 100% zoom. While it's true that denoise on single photos works spatially-only as opposed to videos which also implement temporal approach (borrowing information from surrounding frames) the effect is still vaguely the same and can be seen here - https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/0bfb/pn9a1q8aoa4uq207g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/e9f9/7ohymdpfexhfrbz7g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> .
MERQRY 23.01.2016 15:46	brians wig wrote: Apart from the "QTV" (obviously), the other logos were put there by the TV station. Does anyone actually know if the concert was originally broadcast live? If that's the case, then THAT will the only recording the TV station has: complete with logos. Right. The concert was recorded exclusively for TV ("En directo"). So the logos ("9" and "Queen") were stamped EVEN in the master that is on QP, or the one that was on the tv channel in 80's. That master have MONO sound. In fact two audio tracks (One mono track with the comentator, and Another mono track with the sound of the gig). Argentina tv in these years was mostly mono. Maybe the band, or the channel, or some radio station record a Stereo soundboard recording of that gig, but that is only speculations based on the soundboard recording of the first night.
brians wig 23.01.2016 16:03	Hey MerQry, we didn't get Stereo broadcasts in the UK until 1987 I think it was, and then it was pretty much London only until around 1989 when the rest of the country started to receive the Nicam Stereo broadcasts, so don't worry about yours being mono - everyone's probably was back in '81. Ok. So now we know how Hernan Snow got a version on his DVD with no commentary....
Nitroboy 23.01.2016 16:39	Then the question is: Who the hell supplied Snow with such invaluable tapes? haha As for mono/stereo: My parent told me that for a lot of concerts (including Live Aid) they would turn off the mono sound from the TV, and use the stereo sound from the FM radio instead. So don't feel bad about it being mono. A LOT of stuff was being broadcast on TV in mono.
Barry Durex 23.01.2016 16:43	To clarify, I was speaking of the QTV and Freddie Mercury logos, nothing else. Also the fact that no stereo audio recordings of this night have materialised in 35 years! Of course a decent mono recording is always welcome (bring it on please)
Oscar J 23.01.2016 17:43	Chief Mouse: obviously you have a lot more experience than I in this field, but example two in this page does pretty much exactly the same thing as had been done in the video you attached: https://www.neatvideo.com/examples.html I do quite a bit of 3D rendering (path tracing) where you have to use a lot of denoising on your animations unless you have a whole bunch of computers helping to render. I usually set the Temporal Filter Threshold to 250, then in the filter settings I raise most parameters pretty high, except I set the "Noise reduction ammount: Y" to zero. By doing so, you get very heavy denoising, but only temporal. And no plasticky look.
Chief Mouse 23.01.2016 18:26	^ Interesting. I guess my Neat Video version of like 2.6 might explain it, took me more filters than one in Avisynth to effectively deal with film damage. I would like to try this myself to see how it holds up. I don't know about animations but any kind of denoise on real-world video will leave its trace even if the output looks like almost the same, some detail will be lost and if the noise & denoise is really heavy the video might end up with a slightly smeared look. Or maybe not. It depends on the particular video but since we don't have a raw sample, there's nothing much more to say as I only speculate right now. I am not familiar with the latest version of Neat Video but through the years of denoising hundreds of videos I've yet to see absolutely no detail loss in heavy noise videos when denoised. Sure they look a lot better and pretty much the same but some small spots or things in the background might get a bit distorted or start disappearing, especially if I add a debanding filter (which I sometimes do) which smooths out the uniform areas even more to make the image look cleaner where denoiser fails (useful in some cases, it can reduce the polarization effect in Caracas video, for example). But then again I probably look way too much into details. By the way, any chance one of the reasons you denoise your animations is aliasing? Depending on the amount of it, it can be easily fixed without denoising. Or is it something else? I am not into 3D graphics at all.
BETA215 23.01.2016 19:16	brians wig wrote: Hey MerQry, we didn't get Stereo broadcasts in the UK until 1987 I think it was, and then it was pretty much London only until around 1989 when the rest of the country started to receive the Nicam Stereo broadcasts, so don't worry about yours being mono - everyone's probably was back in '81. Ok. So now we know how Hernan Snow got a version on his DVD with no commentary.... Hernán took the DVD we all know, processed it, and there's the result. Audio wise, he deleted Badía's parts analyzing the spectre and deleting the unwanted frequencies. That's why it sounds like empty in the encore gaps. Nothing new for us.
MERQRY 23.01.2016 23:07	Oh, no i'm not offended at all! Sorry if i "sound" offended, i wrote that commentary so fast, maybe. Indeed 1981 was quite a "different world" concerning tv broadcast technology/quality. I was asking and my tapes comes from a tv special that my local channel did in 1991 because Freddie's death. That's why it says "Freddie Mercury" and that's why isn't the complete thing (the space between songs, and some bits of songs intros are gone, but it has all the songs, including Get Down Make Love) but other side we have that intresting footage that Pittrek (and i) loves with the crowd at the end. And audio it's a little tad better than other sources. Chief Mouse, here i upload a little sample file. I belive is not worth to work with this, because the result wont be better that the nice work you did last year with this gig. It's not the raw file (raw file is uncompressed avi and it's too heavy) but it's an untoched h264 file with 5.073 kbps bitrate. link
Barry Durex 24.01.2016 03:50	Am I right in thinking the two U-matics contain the complete broadcast without commentary in hifi mono? I know both u-matic and betacam are hifi formats, but obviously only if the source was also hifi. Perhaps you can also confirm exactly what is on each and every tape as I am a little confused.
Chief Mouse 24.01.2016 05:39	Grabbed latest demo of Neat Video from their site. Limitations are: up to 30 minutes long video, up to 720p resolution and it leaves a mark on your clip, the functionality itself is not limited as far as noise removal. Original - https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/b540/b53y75z5dklizt47g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> 3 instances of Neat Video with Dust & Scratches + max Temporal processing applied - https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/1580/cjy0saroc7dakh37g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> Avisynth - https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/e27b/ai0euqf749kxrue7g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> Original - https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/364e/an2vp2bhbgb8b8t7g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> 3 instances of Neat Video with Dust & Scratches + max Temporal processing applied - https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/cf9b/2m88q4c2825w8mj7g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> Avisynth - https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/5a2c/qr5zf33hxeaxc3e7g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> As shown above, Neat Video can't remove all of the scratches even applied 3X with max settings, plus it smears out the uniform areas and some information is lost. Neat Video crop - https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/99ee/lh44qakss4p35ws7g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> Avisynth crop - https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/f9ae/89eevun6hfry4sa7g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> .
MERQRY 24.01.2016 05:52
MERQRY 24.01.2016 05:53	Well, i'll try to explain. There are two complete different things: 1)Master tapes (or it's copies)* 2)My tapes** The master tapes are three U-matics tapes. The First aparently has interviews, soundchecks, etc, the Second has the first half of the gig, and the Third has the second half. Queen have a copy of that masters (or the masters itself) in his archive. Canal 9 used to have a copy too, but with time they only found ONE of the three U-matics in their archives. That masters has two mono audio tracks (comentator and the sound of the gig). U-matics allow one hour of footage each. Master tapes have a decent very good quality as we can see on Rare Live. *My tapes (two U-matics) comes from a uknown copy of that master, but it's an edit that the local tv station (i'm not from buenos aires) of my city did in 1991 because Freddie's death. A kind of special, that's why the "Freddie Mercury" stamped on it. They cut all the sections where comentator speaks and some intros by the band. Why they did that i don't know. It contains all the songs, even Get down make love. And lovely unseen footage of the crowd at the end. So: My U-matics tapes don't have the two audio tracks but only one. With the comentator on it, but paradoxically without him because footage are cut. My tapes are not the masters but a copy of a copy made by the station. Pros? A)Unseen Crowd footage at the end with audio of a video-feed sourced Save Me from first night. B)Better audio,at least a bit. C)Video quality is far from good but not so bad. Cons? A)Edited footage B) "Freddie Mercury" stamp C) Noise on the video. I have two tapes more (two betacam). Betacam allows hi-fi audio. The first betacam comes from ATC (another tv channel of Buenos Aires). It contains the know interview footage, but many unseen footage too. Intresting footage, but at the moment i won't tell you more. My second Betacam is broken. I have to fix it. I hope to find footage from third night there, but may be a deception. Or not. Content there is uknown. A mistery.
Chief Mouse 24.01.2016 06:35	Neat Video does pretty fine job with Merqry's sample. While it is noisy, it is not as noisy as I expected. There have certainly been way worse videos. Still, even if cleaned, in my opinion, it could be a similar alternative at best, so I'm not sure it's worth the hassle cleaning it and replacing the logo part. Merqry's video could be used for that crowd footage with Save Me audio he mentioned if we decide to make another version in future, and also the complete audio (if QZ experts say it's better - I'm purely video guy) could be synced to it from his version. Also, perhaps Kurgan could share his rip? It would help quite a lot with replacing the QTV logo with only '9' logo. Peter already proposed to send me his '9' logo non-QTV version but it is worse quality than Kurgan's video (even Kurgan's quality isn't as good as Merqry's video) so I don't quite feel like using it knowing that Kurgan might share his in near or distant future (if at all, hopefully). If he decides to share it, it would help creating the best version of Buenos Aires. Just brainstorming here. https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/1c1d/42qckkw8zp7fjai7g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/7960/8ziamzg4eqmqsik7g.jpg" border="0" alt="Simple, Free Image and File Hosting at MediaFire" /> .
Barry Durex 24.01.2016 06:37	Thanks MERQRY, I am understanding the situation now. Good luck with fixing the other betacam.
Oscar J 24.01.2016 08:34	Very interesting tests with Neat Video Chief, I stand corrected. :) I use it for noise due to low render time with unbiased rendering: http://orig15.deviantart.net/1f6a/f/2013/278/7/2/realistc_3d_render_by_eaglespare-d6p9w6u.png I'm not sure whether this new source is actually better than the old one. It's a bit sharper, but doesn't really have significantly more detail. The colours are worse.
brians wig 24.01.2016 08:55	Well Chief. Looking at the B&W clips you played with, AVIsynth has produced the best results: the piano still has the texture but loses the source faults. I taped BA from QTV myself back in '99 on SVHS and that subsequent DVD did the rounds, but it has the QTV logo. That's why I wondered if mine was the source you'd used. I'm more than happy to send you a DV AVI rip, but whether it would ultimately be better than your cleaned up version I don't know. I do also have a VHS copy somewhere from an earlier period and also a VHS copy from a VHS off-air of the 1991 repeat, but I don't think either will be much better.
Chief Mouse 24.01.2016 09:29	Oscar, looking at your image I see now why you would denoise it. I wonder why it comes out so noisy though? I've never done these kind of 3D renders so excuse my lack of knowledge :-) Brians Wig, perhaps you could mux out and send some sample(s) of your DV AVI rip? I'd love to take a look at it.
Oscar J 24.01.2016 10:01	Physically based progressive renderers use something called raytracing, which means that they simulate rays of light to render the 3D scenes. The CPU can only fire a certain amount of rays/second, which means that the image will be "under-sampled" and noisy until the software have traced enough rays of light to make the picture noise free. This is pretty much the same principle as in photography, when high shutter speeds and high ISO will lead to noisy images, since the sensor hasn't received enough light to make a completely accurate representation of what you're photographing. As rendering of noise free images usually takes a few minutes, or even hours for more complicated scenes, you sometimes have to rely on noise reduction for acceptable render times in animations. This is extremely off topic though! :)
Chief Mouse 24.01.2016 10:08	Nice analogy. Makes sense now ^^ I've only used Blender before. Used some 20th Century Fox sort of template and changed the texts, took hours to render it. Maybe 12 hours for that several seconds video. Looked pretty damn good though! I should get a new computer, working with these Queen videos would be so much more fun (it's already fun but the encoding times piss me off). 2GB RAM and 2.5 GHZ dual core Pentium can only do so much!
Oscar J 24.01.2016 10:32	You definitely deserve a decent i5 or i7 machine! Don't know if your software supports GPU acceleration for encoding/conversion as well?
MERQRY 02.02.2016 21:00	Bad news about the BETACAM :-( it is a lot more broken than i thought! link link Somebody here know how to fix it? I have fixed some vhs in my life but Beta's are a mistery for me. I don't know if the content is worth for all the work it will take me to repair it. Ah, i had uploaded my whole Buenos Aires tapes to Youtube, but copyright deleted it.
. 03.02.2016 02:34	MERQRY wrote: Bad news about the BETACAM :-( it is a lot more broken than i thought! link link Somebody here know how to fix it? I have fixed some vhs in my life but Beta's are a mystery for me. I don't know if the content is worth for all the work it will take me to repair it. No wonder you are confused!! I have two betamax machines and have also had a betacam in the past. What you have there are TWO full reels in one cassette (30 min each judging by pic). If one side is full the other side should be EMPTY! Somebody has put them in the cassette together for whatever reason. Good news - You have twice as much footage as you thought you had. Bad news - It might be footage of anything, or even betamax!! More good news - tapes look intact and in good condition, so this is probably easily sorted. Bad news - you need another empty case. Even more good news - Betamax cassette housing is the same as betacam (your tape is smaller than VHS right?) Betamax tapes are cheaper and easier to find. So a transplant into a replacement housing is what is required, so that an EMPTY reel is paired with a full one. I've done this loads of times, a little fiddly but nothing too difficult. Lastly, betacam tapes rotate at a far faster speed than betamax, so be careful all the springs and clips are put in correctly. When you open up the donor betamax/betacam cassette take a photo of how everything is set out and use it as a guide. Or simply open up the other good betacam tape you already have and copy the layout. NB: Betacam and betamax are entirely different formats so one won't play on the other. Betacam has two sizes, small is same size as betamax and run up to 30 minutes. The larger size tapes only fit in betacam players and are longer in duration. link
pittrek 03.02.2016 02:36	Unfortunately I can't help you with the tape ( I'm like you - I have fixed several VHS tapes but I have never seen a Beta ) but uploading anything to youtube is a pretty bad idea, mainly if you plan to monetize it. If you for some reason don't want to upload it here, may I recommend dailymotion? Their rules are less strict and your video will remain there until somebody manually reports it. Of course the best way for all of us would be if you would upload a DVD quality transfer here :-)
. 03.02.2016 02:41	See my post before Pittrek's on how to sort out the issue.
brians wig 03.02.2016 04:01	Just seen your post Merqry, and Kurgan is spot on. A betamax tape should be easy to find on ebay and you can clear out the tape from the 2nd beta and link the betacam tape to the clear leader tape. Would you be capturing to DV-AVI rather than mpeg2? It would be worth you keeping that larger sized Master capture incase it's ever needed again and also sending a copy of it to Chief Mouse or Pittrek to be worked on rather than a compressed mpeg2....
Nitroboy 03.02.2016 09:16	2nd that. Transferring stuff to the outdated MPEG 2 DVD format is a waste of time IF it's possible to do a DV-AVI transfer.
MERQRY 03.02.2016 13:14	Many thanks Kurgan! I read your post carefully and it's very informative. The cassette housing of the reels is Betamax. But the case is from a betacam sp. So: The reels could be Betamax or Betacam. But if -like you said- the cassette houing of both formats are the same there wont be any problem there. I only have an old betacam player, in the case the reels are betamax i have to search for a betamax player, right? I guess they are cheaper than a betacam player. Or maybe i will try t find some company to did the transfer. I will try to find a betamax housing for the second reel. This cassettes comes from the archive of a tv station. I don't know why they stored it in such that strange way. I'm pretty sure it has any Queen footage on it cause the cassette label says "Queen en la Argentina -Beta- 8009. Susana Rinaldi -Beta- 8010". The first reel has a paper that says "8009" stamped on the "plastic circle" that allow the first reel, so it contains any Queen fotage almost for sure. The second reel could be the Susana Rinaldi footage (nothing to do with queen, she's a singer of tango) the label said (but in that case it should said "8010" not "64") or a kind of continuation of the Queen footage.
MERQRY 03.02.2016 13:30	I already capture the footage on uncompressed AVI (PCM Audio). I NEVER ever think to capture it on mpeg-2, so don't worry. As uncompressed avi it's way too heavy (180+ Gb) i did a copy of it with AVC encoding --10 Mbps bitrate-- too. Here's a mediainfo: General Complete name : Queen Tapes\Queen Buenos Aires 1981.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 / Version 2 File size : 7.59 GiB Duration : 1h 40mn Overall bit rate : 10.8 Mbps Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : Baseline@L3.0 Format settings, CABAC : No Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=20 Muxing mode : Container profile=Baseline@4.1 Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 1h 40mn Width : 720 pixels Height : 576 pixels Display aspect ratio : 5:4 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 25.000 fps Standard : PAL Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Title : AVC 10 Mbps Audio #1 ID : 2 Format : AAC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Format profile : LC Codec ID : A_AAC Duration : 1h 40mn Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel positions : Front: L R Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Compression mode : Lossy Audio #2 ID : 3 Format : FLAC Format/Info : Free Lossless Audio Codec Codec ID : A_FLAC Duration : 1h 40mn Bit rate mode : Variable Channel(s) : 2 channels Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Bit depth : 24 bits Title : FLAC (The AAC audio it's only to watch the file on my tv)
. 03.02.2016 14:20	Betacam is broadcast quality, so it is very unlikely the reels are betamax if they came from a TV station. Even super betamax pro mode is no match for betacam. The reason being betacam runs at three times the speed of betamax. Having said that, somebody opened up that cassette, so who knows. Do the two reels contain the clear (or silver) leaders? I can't tell from the photos you posted. Please post a photo of the ends of both reels.
que.123 03.02.2016 14:36	Hi MERQRY, If lack of available hard drive space is a problem you could try using the free Lagarith lossless compression codec for your video capture link. It would probably reduce the file size of your uncompressed AVI by about half but, unlike other compression codecs, it is totally lossless (similar to FLAC for audio), that is what I use for anything important. The file size created using Lagarith is still too big for distribution/sharing but you end up with a lossless capture as good as an uncompressed AVI but taking up a lot less space.
BETA215 03.02.2016 15:23	^ Recomiendo ese formato, debido a que como dijo que.123, es un formato de compresión sin pérdida. Es el mejor formato lossless de video hasta el momento. Para codificar tu video en Lagarith, lo conveniente es que lo conviertas con VirtualDub. Además, podés usar ese algoritmo en Sony Vegas - por si querés hacer algún tipo de edición/correción mínima sin querer perder calidad.
MERQRY 04.02.2016 00:04	Que.123: Storage is not the main problem but eventually to share such a big file. Anyway thank you for lagarith! The resultant file still will be too heavy but i will save some space on my portable hard disk. I think AVC 10 Mbps it's ok to share (i converted it straight from my avi file). Dont forget my source is an old U-matic anyway. AVI DV is compressed too, but is the second choise... Although aprox 20 gb for my two tapes. Beta: Sonyvegas no me gusta muho porque creo recordar (hace años que no lo uso) que tiene una especie de filtro temporal de ruido (noise temporal filter) que no me termina de convencer. Para editar suelo usar el VirtualDub con un plug-in que me permite exportar archivos mp4 (avc). O algún otro: Ultimamente estuve probando el Wondershare video editor y los resultados me parecen aceptables. Igual como dije antes, si bien mientras menos compresión digital haya (y en eso soy cuidadoso) mucho mejor, el u-matic es un formato medio choto de por si. Pocas líneas de resolución, problemas con los colores rojos. Era medio viejún inclusive en el '81. Me acuerdo que una vez charlé con uno de los camarografos del concierto. Hicieron magia para que todo se vea lo mejor posible, tuvieron que setar las camaras para que trabajen lo mejor posible con niveles de oscuridad, pero que a la vez no se saturaran con las luces muy fuertes. Teniendo en cuenta que todo fue en vivo, hicieron un buen trabajo con los planos. En el país había mejor tecnología para filmar un concierto (véase Adiós Sui Generis fimado en el '75 en 35 y 16 mm, y que si ahora no lo lanzaron en un blu-ray con una calidad espectacular es por desidia o falta de inversores). Incluso hay grabaciones multitracks de conciertos del flaco Spinetta de principios de los ochenta, incluso el chico que me prestó el reproductor de U-matic me dijo que hacía poco había digitalizado unos U-matic de Spinetta de los ochenta y se veían muchísimo mejor. Canal 9 (y algunas radios) que no tenía el mejor equipo, debe haber comprado los derechos de televización y grabacion del concerto... sino se pudiera haber grabado el concierto con una calidad que ahora lo estarían por lanzar en Blu-ray con una calidad similar a Budapest (no a Montreal que fue grabado en 75 mm, y con un equipo muy especializado). Pero bueno, tampoco tenían la bola de cristal. Kurgan: If i remember well yes, it has a kind of "silver stuff" in one of the starts of the reel. Here you have a photo of what i say: link Like you said Betacam is broadcasting quality (like U-matic) so if this came from a tv station...
BETA215 04.02.2016 03:08	¡Me estás jodiendo! Yo ya venía pensando desde hace un tiempo: ¿por qué no gastan plata, y publican todos esos grandes conciertos en alta calidad? Sinceramente, me cago en los inversores. Viendo la calidad que tienen algunas cintas como esta de Badía & Cía (link, o esta del Proyecto Prisma (link es una pena terrible que todas esas joyas estén juntando pelusas. Igualmente, yo recuerdo haber visto una entrevista a Vera (Spinetta), y contaba que hay muchas cintas de conciertos de su padre guardadas e iban a ver que podían hacer con ellas. Incluso, sumándole a eso, en internet se pueden encontrar grabaciones soundboard de varios conciertos salidas de no sé dónde. Así que imaginate la cantidad de conciertos que deben tener. (Tal vez les sea rentable hacer un boxset) Seguramente U-matic les era menos laborioso a Canal 9 que usar cintas. Una pena. Más que nada, le tengo miedo a toda esta ola de la guerra del volumen que se está viviendo. Escuchá alguna canción de Pescado ripeada de un vinilo, y después busca la versión CD digipack de hace unos años. Arruinan la música con esas subidas y bajadas de volumen constante (compresión), además del AutoTune/Melodyne. No me gustaría que eso ocurriese cuando lanzen un nuevo disco/DVD. Si el flaco estuviese acá, no pasaría con lo que lanze. Pero no sé cómo va a ser esta movida ahora que lo manejan sus hijos (viendo que Los Amigo contiene correcciones en exceso...). Esto mismo ya pasa con lo que saca Queen (comparando la mezcla de Rainbow Marzo y Noviembre, por ejemplo). Pero eso está aprobado por Brian y Roger, así que no podemos hacer mucho.
. 04.02.2016 04:43	MERQRY wrote: Kurgan: If i remember well yes, it has a kind of "silver stuff" in one of the starts of the reel. Here you have a photo of what i say: link Like you said Betacam is broadcasting quality (like U-matic) so if this came from a tv station... From the photo that reel looks like it is fully wound (forwarded) to the end so should sit on the right had side of the cassette (as it is inserted into the machine) The ''silver stuff'' is important, it trips the sensor to tell the machine to stop in fast forward and rewind mode (otherwise it would just snap!) Your other reel may be fully wound (or re-wound) you can tell by looking at it. Is the tape going in the same direction as the one in the photo? So going back to the silver stuff, it is important you retain this when splicing the tape to the clear (or silver, or green) leader. When you get your donor cassette and rip out all the tape be careful to keep the two clear (or silver, or green) sections at the ends of both reels. You should also see this ''silver stuff''. If you are really skillful you can pull the tape away from the ''silver stuff'' and reattach your reel to it. It's actually easier to do this rather than explain how to do it LOL! Here is one of my betacam 30 minute tapes to show what you are aiming for: Fully rewound: link Fully wound (forwarded) link Underside - showing the ''silver stuff'' link A video that might help a little (not me!) link Apologies to Chief Mouse for hi-jacking his thread
Chief Mouse 04.02.2016 07:52	^ No matter :)
MERQRY 05.02.2016 23:19	MANY thanks Kurgan! Your posts are very helpful :-D I hope we could find intresting stuff on that tapes. And thanks Chief Mouse for the patience too!
pittrek 06.02.2016 05:45	A little selfish post - discussions like this one are the reason why I used to like Queenzone so much a decade ago. I love learning new things.
. 06.02.2016 06:08	A last few pointers for you MERQRY The silver square (Silver stuff) is adhesive backed and as well as triggering the machine sensors it also acts to ''join'' the tape to the leader. This join is ALWAYS made on the underside of the tape as shown in photo earlier. It is very important you make a nice clean and STRAIGHT join. You want the leader tape and tape to butt up perfectly with NO gap (again, look at that nice join in the earlier photo) No overhanging sticky tape either, trust me when I say the machine heads will not take kindly to that. Good luck.
tassilo 06.02.2016 14:01	Thank you.
Mr.QueenFan 06.02.2016 16:25	Thank you Chief! Another great work by you. This looks very beautiful. It was such a great tour for Queen, and Freddie's voice was perfect. It deserves the best video and audio one can get.
Sue Dounim 21.02.2016 01:34	hey MERQRY, any update on an audio rip of your tape of 1981/03/01?
aristide1 23.02.2016 08:26	You have great expectations from someone who wasn't able to start his own topic. But he has a busy life outside queenzone, unlike the rest of us, so be patient. I bet he is preparing the 35th anniversary release for next week. Or not.
MERQRY 24.02.2016 15:22	Nope. To fix that beta tape will take me time. Otherwise I suspect it's a Betamax not a Betacam, so i should get a betamax player. Anyway as ChiefMouse said: the quality of my tapes are not much better than the know one. Maybe i could share it someday in near future, but only for completist who want to have all the versions. Sue: I sent a PM to DJGreg but i have not response from him. If he could do a job like he did with Houston, I could share an audio rip.
DepeX 24.02.2016 15:36	Merqry, I've sent you a PM.
aristide1 25.02.2016 03:22	MERQRY wrote: Nope. To fix that beta tape will take me time. Otherwise I suspect it's a Betamax not a Betacam, so i should get a betamax player. Anyway as ChiefMouse said: the quality of my tapes are not much better than the know one. Maybe i could share it someday in near future, but only for completist who want to have all the versions. Sue: I sent a PM to DJGreg but i have not response from him. If he could do a job like he did with Houston, I could share an audio rip. Don't remember ChiefMouse explicitly said the tapes are not much better. It's only you repeating this. Anyway, all the other reviews range from pretty good to excellent. I believe the discussion about betamax or betacam or compression or denoising algorithms has reached an end and we are returning to the starting point: the question if you will ever share something, beside the mkv info. As for the requested audio track, you already said a 24/48 FLAC is prepared. What "job like he did with Huston" are you waiting from DJGreg? So now all depends on DJGreg, he is the man responsible.
BETA215 25.02.2016 04:24	MERQRY, I hope you also share your original version. Personally, I don't like that reverb DJGreg and I want to see if I can do something to it.
. 25.02.2016 06:39	MERQRY wrote: To fix that beta tape will take me time. Otherwise I suspect it's a Betamax not a Betacam, so i should get a betamax player. I already said it is very unlikely a betamax tape would be found in a TV station's archives.
The Real Wizard 25.02.2016 16:57	aristide1 wrote: What "job like he did with Huston" are you waiting from DJGreg? This: link And it's excellent. Probably the best unreleased Queen show now, second perhaps only to Boston 76.
aristide1 29.02.2016 05:55	The Real Wizard wrote: aristide1 wrote: What "job like he did with Huston" are you waiting from DJGreg? This: link And it's excellent. Probably the best unreleased Queen show now, second perhaps only to Boston 76. Denoise - reverb - compress is the perfect recipe to ruin any recording, even a studio one. Fake stereo is like colouring b&w movies, unfortunately once lost the information can not be retrieved. I admit that 1 min of processed audio may sound brighter than original. But after one hour your brain and ears are fucked up. Kurgan's "comfy chair" becomes a torture chair. Although Sue and others genuinely believes "every unofficial soundboard recording needs reverb effect", most people who have some idea of audio restoration don't. See Beta215 above. But not DJGreg is the issue. I like MERQRY has a positive mood, i mean he is is not ready to snap like others in the same position, and break any contact with the ungrateful mob. Instead he is trying to convince the mob about the importance of perfect conditions for an event to occur, planets alignment or something like that.
The Real Wizard 29.02.2016 10:59	aristide1 wrote: Denoise - reverb - compress is the perfect recipe to ruin any recording, even a studio one. Fake stereo is like colouring b&w movies, unfortunately once lost the information can not be retrieved. I admit that 1 min of processed audio may sound brighter than original. But after one hour your brain and ears are fucked up. Kurgan's "comfy chair" becomes a torture chair. Although Sue and others genuinely believes "every unofficial soundboard recording needs reverb effect", most people who have some idea of audio restoration don't. Yeah, I see what you're saying. To my ears this worked well for the Houston show, but of course that doesn't mean it'll work for any of the others. Since you're so knowledgeable of this stuff, why are you just an armchair critic? Why aren't you actually contributing something of value to this place instead of complaining 9 out of 10 posts?
Sue Dounim 29.02.2016 12:02	I never said anything of the sort, way to put words in my mouth. >:( I made a rule of not replying to you anymore but I can't let that slide. I've never thought that every soundboard needs reverb. I would never add reverb to things like Sao Paulo '81 or Mannheim '86, or recordings like the video soundtracks of the Paris or Tokyo '79 footage. That's completely inane and would ruin the sound. Reverb isn't some golden ticket to a good listening experience. Time and time again you go in other people's threads shitting on their uploads and time and time again we ask if you can provide something better and every time you never do and you never prove us wrong. Haven't you ever heard the phrase, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything."? I think not. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and learn how to be nice, or at least quieter.
Oscar J 29.02.2016 13:30	aristide1 - it might ruin some recordings, but it sure helped with Houston. You're much too categorical, have you even listened to his version? The Houston audio is mono, thin, very harsh to the ear, and extremely dry. DJGreg added stereo reverb to the recording, which not only helps to reduce the dryness, but also gives a very subtle stereo field without using traditional fake stereo effects such as micro delays that tend to sound very unnatural. To help with the thinness and harshness he did a tasteful job with equalisation - which brought out the bass drum and bass well and reduced the ear piercing high mids - and compression, which made the sound slightly fatter and brought down those unpleasantly shrill sound level peaks. Note that he didn't overdo any of this, which would have lead to a muddy and reverb-y loudness war. He did it with finesse, which seems to be the point you're missing.
aristide1 01.03.2016 04:14	Oscar J wrote: aristide1 - it might ruin some recordings, but it sure helped with Houston. You're much too categorical, have you even listened to his version? The Houston audio is mono, thin, very harsh to the ear, and extremely dry. DJGreg added stereo reverb to the recording, which not only helps to reduce the dryness, but also gives a very subtle stereo field without using traditional fake stereo effects such as micro delays that tend to sound very unnatural. To help with the thinness and harshness he did a tasteful job with equalisation - which brought out the bass drum and bass well and reduced the ear piercing high mids - and compression, which made the sound slightly fatter and brought down those unpleasantly shrill sound level peaks. Note that he didn't overdo any of this, which would have lead to a muddy and reverb-y loudness war. He did it with finesse, which seems to be the point you're missing. Appreciate your review. It's always better to hear some articulate thoughts rather than "audio: A++" (am i quoting you correctly Sue?). I've listened not only to this version but also to other opinions. Someone who usually knows what is saying mentioned unnecessary denoising and denoising artifacts. Someone who knows to process audio said didn't like the reverb. For sure, we are not marching through the realm of good taste and finesse, as you say. But that's not measurable, so i'm not "categorical" about it. What triggered the subject was the picture of Merqry at the bar, ordering a DJGreg on the ice, to get courage for share. Or before hitting the road.
Oscar J 01.03.2016 09:52	Sure, each to his own. While I'd like to think I have an ear for these things, I am by no means a professional and I'm sure real audio pros would spot things like denoising artifacts and bad reverb plugs much better than I can. But then the real purists are probably completely against any digital processing of their favourite bootlegs anyway.
Chinwonder2 01.03.2016 15:46	For anyone that is interested, you can check out my channel for the whole concert plus some extras! :) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHCF7sLluO6Ege9Rhq1_i6Gm-1lvDf5vx Enjoy!! :P -Chin
The Real Wizard 02.03.2016 03:38	Oscar J wrote: I'm sure real audio pros would spot things like denoising artifacts Yup, that's me. I can hear it in all of the quieter moments. That's why I'm disappointed that DJGreg has suddenly gone awol on us. It'd be nice to at least get some exact details on what he did, so that a similar version can be created without the hiss reduction.
diego alejandro 05.03.2016 19:37	If Somebody Has A Good Raw Video Queen Argentina concert...please shared ....the only source that i have is the dvd bootleg enconded by crime crow productions, i know that the raw vhs video is better than i have.
The Real Wizard 08.03.2016 19:06	link This is the best copy you're going to find.
diego alejandro 08.03.2016 21:39	I know that is the best copy because the original source was good.....but i'm not conformed with tha nasty blur logo removed version .......it can't be that a dvd bootleg corrupted is the same quality video that pittrek gave to chiefmouse....i'm looking that raw version because i'm a collector.
Chief Mouse 08.03.2016 22:49	I'm pretty sure I got the source DVD from Bokkepot's Excel database not Pittrek. Also, I think Nitroboy used a different (slightly inferior) source for his bootleg mix.
The Real Wizard 08.03.2016 23:51	Well then let's see if anything comes of this thread... someone seems to have a good copy waiting to get transferred.
diego alejandro 09.03.2016 13:43	we'll wait if somebody wants to share a raw good copy transfer of the concert......it's a shame that youtube delete the upload's sikke of the concert queen in sao paulo 40 minutes special is a real shame.
Mr.QueenFan 09.03.2016 14:45	The Real Wizard wrote: Well then let's see if anything comes of this thread... someone seems to have a good copy waiting to get transferred. Didn't the person who shared the "good" video source of Houston 77 in Queenzone said that he had the Argentina show in same quality and he was going to share it in QZ? I mean, it was almost 10 years ago, but that's the way i remember it.
diego alejandro 09.03.2016 18:16	Ummmmm........Anyway The Windblows.
The Real Wizard 09.03.2016 19:36	diego alejandro wrote: we'll wait if somebody wants to share a raw good copy transfer of the concert......it's a shame that youtube delete the upload's sikke of the concert queen in sao paulo 40 minutes special is a real shame. Then it'd make a lot more sense for these things to get uploaded here instead, wouldn't it?
DepeX 10.03.2016 00:42	^ For sure.
Barry Durex 05.04.2016 06:38	Mr.QueenFan wrote: The Real Wizard wrote: Well then let's see if anything comes of this thread... someone seems to have a good copy waiting to get transferred. Didn't the person who shared the "good" video source of Houston 77 in Queenzone said that he had the Argentina show in same quality and he was going to share it in QZ? I mean, it was almost 10 years ago, but that's the way i remember it. Who was that then?
MackMantilla 05.04.2016 08:33	Mr.QueenFan wrote: Didn't the person who shared the "good" video source of Houston 77 in Queenzone said that he had the Argentina show in same quality and he was going to share it in QZ? I mean, it was almost 10 years ago, but that's the way i remember it. Yeah, I also remember that. But nothing yet...
Ale Solan 23.04.2016 16:32	Can anyone please upload this to 1fichier?! thanks a lot
diego alejandro 23.04.2016 19:28	Somebody There Can Help Me.....it will be that somebody can provide me or get me the sotware neat video full cracked for virtualdub please? ......Because I'm conviced that i can get better results than snowproductions....i has been trying to used AVSP EDITOR OF Avisynth and it's no so difficult like as other people believe..i hope if somebody can help me to get neat video software.
BETA215 23.04.2016 19:38	^ You can use the demo version without that watermark showing, search the way to cut the watermark in the video (after making some black borders) without cutting the actual video. Or you can use an older version for Sony Vegas, which you can find cracked. You'll have to research
DepeX 24.04.2016 03:02	The limitations of the demo are: maximum resolution of 720p (not a problem this time), not more than 30 minutes video (you can render the video divided into 30' segments) and the watermark. Regarding the watermark, you can add some black border on top and bottom of the video, run neatvideo, then crop away those borders you added before.
Ale Solan 25.04.2016 20:05	please, anyone willing to upload this to 1fichier? o torrent? thanks in advance
Ale Solan 26.04.2016 12:10	Come on people
Chief Mouse 26.04.2016 13:01	^ Mega link in the first post is still active. I don't really feel like re-uploading if Mega is still up. Maybe anyone else?
Ale Solan 26.04.2016 16:40	Chief Mouse wrote: ^ Mega link in the first post is still active. I don't really feel like re-uploading if Mega is still up. Maybe anyone else? Mega work does work but with a traffic limit, ergo, I cannot download!
Ale Solan 26.04.2016 16:45	the download stucks up almost at 50%, it tells me to wait like almost 6 hours, and the download finally doesn't go on so...
Chief Mouse 27.04.2016 00:28	Have you tried a small software called Mega Downloader? It always works for me when browser fails. It is very useful when downloading many files at once and/or big files.
Chinwonder2 27.04.2016 02:18	Chief Mouse wrote: Have you tried a small software called Mega Downloader? It always works for me when browser fails. It is very useful when downloading many files at once and/or big files. You can also try JDownloader it always works for me. :) -Chin
Ale Solan 27.04.2016 10:53	Already tried Mega Downloader and JDownloader with no luck at all this is the message I get when I try to download from Mega ">link at 50% I can't continue downloading...
Ale Solan 27.04.2016 10:54	I wonder what happened with Queenzone's generosity? it's been days and still no one uploaded this to another server...
DepeX 27.04.2016 11:48	I can make a torrent but I don't know how much will I seed... Give me two minutes.
DepeX 27.04.2016 12:00	Here you have it!
Ale Solan 27.04.2016 14:59	Thanks so much Depex!
DepeX 27.04.2016 15:39	You're welcome man! Don't get discouraged if you don't find seeders! I'll be seeding as much as I can but it will be about 6/8hrs a day ;-)
Ale Solan 28.04.2016 18:39	DepeX wrote: You're welcome man! Don't get discouraged if you don't find seeders! I'll be seeding as much as I can but it will be about 6/8hrs a day ;-) thanks a lot again ;) I'm stuck at 67,7% but I'll be patient, keep it comin' ;D
Ale Solan 29.04.2016 15:01	76,4%... nearer!
Ale Solan 02.05.2016 15:58	Thanks Depex! *finally* finished downloading! ;)
DepeX 03.05.2016 08:57	You're welcome! :-)
diego alejandro 06.05.2016 20:26	Pittrek If You Got Neat Video Plugin For VirtualDub.... Please ...if you would send me on link to my email it will be wonderfull...because i tried For looking...and the versions thait i found are only demos
jabbo5150 07.05.2016 20:32	So for those of us who still like physical media, what is the best way to burn this to DVD? I am on a Mac. Just make a UDF disk? Something else? My Blu-ray player (Oppo BDP-93) will play just about anything, but I am looking for maximum compatibility. Great work on this by the way.
BETA215 15.05.2016 15:29	diego alejandro wrote: Pittrek If You Got Neat Video Plugin For VirtualDub.... Please ...if you would send me on link to my email it will be wonderfull...because i tried For looking...and the versions thait i found are only demos Diego, we already told you. If you want it full, just buy it. No seas tan agarrado, si lo vas a necesitar compralo. Sino realmente no lo necesitás.
diego alejandro 16.05.2016 22:29	Beta by casuatity you are Alberto ballesteros? .....and whom are you the users wihich upload video and audio and also have accounts on youtube and facebook ....i just wanna allow like sikki van deer veer.
BETA215 24.11.2016 00:34	Any news? :/
. 07.12.2016 10:15	So did MERQRY actually ever find out what was on his reels?
Barry Durex 18.02.2017 06:09	Any updates Merqry?
alberbal12 18.02.2017 10:02	diego alejandro wrote: Beta by casuatity you are **** *********? .....and whom are you the users wihich upload video and audio and also have accounts on youtube and facebook ....i just wanna allow like sikki van deer veer. I am that name you said, but I don't have any video of this at all.
Unniendo 08.07.2017 07:31	Thanks for an awesome work!
QueenAllTheWay 08.12.2018 04:33	In response to page 6 the discussion about the neat video trick, there's another source that Sikke uploaded on YouTube back in 2016 of half of the Argentina concert without any logo, but of course it's lossy. link
QueenAllTheWay 08.12.2018 04:33	link
Blackvy 08.12.2018 04:59	Thanks! :)

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Live in Buenos Aires 1981 [Chief Mouse 2016 Edition]