| earwig 26.12.2015 10:13 |
Has anyone heard anything more recently? Brian mentioned it in a podcast last summer. Obviously the Brixton video has been remastered because of the youtube release of Since You've Been Gone. Any help/gossip gratefully received!! :-) |
| MAYniac91 26.12.2015 10:44 |
Nothing really more to tell about this time... Brixton becomes a re-release, Brian think about that fact and a box set was never really planed... maybe next year, I really hope so! Rogers "The Lot" was quickly announced so finger crossed for an simualr release this year. |
| tero! 48531 26.12.2015 10:48 |
I've heard from a reliable source that his solo box set will be released the May following his death. It will be sold in a gigantic curly wig, and feature all known recordings of the Brighton Rock Solo (and nothing else) on 80 CDs. There will be one copy, which will be sold to the person who has guessed correctly how many master tapes of unreleased Queen concerts will be sent to space along with Brian's ashes. |
| musicland munich 26.12.2015 12:15 |
MAYniac91 wrote: Nothing really more to tell about this time... Brixton becomes a re-release, Brian think about that fact and a box set was never really planed... maybe next year, I really hope so! Rogers "The Lot" was quickly announced so finger crossed for an simualr release this year.A BM box set would be nice, but it should be a better Release than Rog's hair raising non- proof reading of the "The Lot" box set. |
| mooghead 26.12.2015 13:02 |
Nothing gives me such a massive flop on than a Brian May box set....... there is grass to watch grow outside FFS! |
| Bike It 80 26.12.2015 19:35 |
tero! 48531 wrote: I've heard from a reliable source that his solo box set will be released the May following his death. It will be sold in a gigantic curly wig, and feature all known recordings of the Brighton Rock Solo (and nothing else) on 80 CDs. There will be one copy, which will be sold to the person who has guessed correctly how many master tapes of unreleased Queen concerts will be sent to space along with Brian's ashes.Well, that certainly gave me a much needed laugh! |
| cmi 26.12.2015 23:49 |
Really lack of healthy sense of humor. |
| brians wig 27.12.2015 06:09 |
Greg mentioned this at Convention in November. He's currently cataloguing Brian's archive for what "may" become two boxsets as Brian is keen to have all his collaborative works released as well. Goodness knows how rights issues will be sorted for that boxset though. Any Queen boxset just gets further and further away as, let's face it, that's the final thing they'll ever release I expect. |
| earwig 27.12.2015 07:21 |
Thanks Brians wig!! :-) Mooghead will probably vomit but I really want Anita Dobson's album on CD (I Dream Of Christmas!). As well as the obvious rarities: Macbeth score, My Boy, The Stonk etc etc… To be honest, I'll settle for a remastered SD Blu-ray of Brixton gig (with new 5.1 mix and maybe The Dream Is Over?) with select tracks from RAH 98... |
| earwig 27.12.2015 07:24 |
Also Brians wig… Any news about the promo videos coming out on Blu-ray (and hopefully in 4:3 this time!) obviously retaining the gorgeous 5.1 mixes. Thanks!! |
| brians wig 27.12.2015 14:46 |
There has been no mention of a bluray promo set since Rhys Thomas (I think it was) mentioned it at convention at least 5 years ago. Now, with what I've heard, QPL are having a problem with DoRo, in that DoRo believe that everything filmed by them is THEIR copyright ans as such belongs to them, and if QPL want to use any of it then QPL will have to pay for it! QPL, quite rightly, firmly believe that all material belongs to THEM, but since everything shot by DoRo resides in DoRo's archives which, again I gather, are split between Munich and Vienna, doesn't make it easy and this, I gather, is the reason we have nothing filmed by DoRo on the cards for release. What makes it more complicated is that Hannes & Rudi have apparantly split, so there's potential in-fighting there. If all I've posted above IS actually the truth (or even somewhere close to it), then it may be a while before things get sorted out. Perhaps QPL will ultimately have to fork out some money to DoRo just to get access to what should be their own late 80's onwards archive.... |
| musicland munich 27.12.2015 23:35 |
brians wig wrote: ..... If all I've posted above IS actually the truth (or even somewhere close to it), then it may be a while before things get sorted out. Perhaps QPL will ultimately have to fork out some money to DoRo just to get access to what should be their own late 80's onwards archive....HA ! YES ! They have a little bit more to deal with than the financial aspect :) Nice post ! |
| BETA215 28.12.2015 01:33 |
My gosh! How do you know all this stuff? |
| tero! 48531 28.12.2015 03:06 |
brians wig wrote: DoRo believe that everything filmed by them is THEIR copyright ans as such belongs to them, and if QPL want to use any of it then QPL will have to pay for it!Is there a possibility that DoRo are actually correct, and have an agreement to prove it? Surely ten years would have been enough time to file a legal case if QP had any grounds? The truth is that Queen made a mistake in their original contract with DoRo (which probably only allows them rights on VHS releases or something similar), and are too stubborn to pay for anything more. |
| Negative Creep 28.12.2015 08:15 |
tero! 48531 wrote: The truth is that Queen made a mistake in their original contract with DoRo (which probably only allows them rights on VHS releases or something similar), and are too stubborn to pay for anything more.Except several DoRo videos were used on GVH2 and also a Cross promo video was released in the RT boxset. More likely DoRo are withholding material QPL don't have in their archives. |
| tero! 48531 28.12.2015 14:06 |
Negative Creep wrote:If it was a question of DoRo only "thinking" they have any rights to the material, QP would have dragged them to court long before GVH2 was released.tero! 48531 wrote: The truth is that Queen made a mistake in their original contract with DoRo (which probably only allows them rights on VHS releases or something similar), and are too stubborn to pay for anything more.Except several DoRo videos were used on GVH2 and also a Cross promo video was released in the RT boxset. More likely DoRo are withholding material QPL don't have in their archives. That leaves only two alternatives: 1) DoRo owns the visual material, and Queen doesn't want to pay for it, or 2) the material has already been given to QP years ago, but they don't want to release it Which would you rather believe? |
| brians wig 29.12.2015 04:56 |
Further info tells me that Queen own the completed products, but the rushes are held by DoRo and it's those they want. Makes sense to me - go back to then original footage and re-edit to get the highest quality. |
| tero! 48531 29.12.2015 07:36 |
brians wig wrote: Further info tells me that Queen own the completed products, but the rushes are held by DoRo and it's those they want. Makes sense to me - go back to then original footage and re-edit to get the highest quality.You know, when you combine the problems in re-editing the material with your previous message about the copyright issue (and take into account that Roger had no problems with his videos being released just a few years ago), it seems to me that the problem is that Queen wants to change the videos in some way. If it was just a question of quality, DoRo would have been able to provide the finished material in better quality. I wonder what could be so important a change that has kept these videos from being released for the past 15 years? Maybe Brian had his wig backwards in one of the montages... |
| Queenman!! 29.12.2015 09:43 |
tero! 48531 wrote:===========================================Negative Creep wrote:If it was a question of DoRo only "thinking" they have any rights to the material, QP would have dragged them to court long before GVH2 was released. That leaves only two alternatives: 1) DoRo owns the visual material, and Queen doesn't want to pay for it, or 2) the material has already been given to QP years ago, but they don't want to release it Which would you rather believe?tero! 48531 wrote: The truth is that Queen made a mistake in their original contract with DoRo (which probably only allows them rights on VHS releases or something similar), and are too stubborn to pay for anything more.Except several DoRo videos were used on GVH2 and also a Cross promo video was released in the RT boxset. More likely DoRo are withholding material QPL don't have in their archives. It may explaines the lack of bonus material for the Budapest release. |
| cmsdrums 30.12.2015 04:27 |
It's possibly something technically daft like Queen own the actual content, but DoRo own the physical tapes/films etc that it was recorded on, and so they're holding out for a good price to hand it over. It sometimes works in a similar way in the collectors community where an acetate is legally bought (say, at auction), but the copyright of the material on it remains with the band. The buyer of the disc can't release the material but can legally keep hold of the disc and prevent the artist having access to it. |
| Rick 30.12.2015 07:56 |
Please, no. |
| Negative Creep 30.12.2015 11:58 |
cmsdrums wrote: It's possibly something technically daft like Queen own the actual content, but DoRo own the physical tapes/films etc that it was recorded on, and so they're holding out for a good price to hand it over.I seem to remember there being a quote from Brian years ago that suggested the WWRY concert footage was the only footage filmed for them that they didn't retain ownership of? But then, I'm sure I've seen DoRo copyright text on everything they worked on?? If the band were as savvy as they like to make out, they'd have made a contract up between themselves and DoRo clearly stating that the footage was being filmed for QPL and that ownership was retained by QPL. If such a contract existed, QPL could easily take them to court to recover all tapes in question. I don't really believe this story though. According to Wikipedia, Jim Beach was even involved in helping them out when they went into administration in 2003 or so. And as previously stated, numerous DoRo directed promo videos have been released on DVD.... |
| The Real Wizard 01.01.2016 16:15 |
brians wig wrote: Greg mentioned this at Convention in November. He's currently cataloguing Brian's archive for what "may" become two boxsets as Brian is keen to have all his collaborative works released as well. Goodness knows how rights issues will be sorted for that boxset though. Any Queen boxset just gets further and further away as, let's face it, that's the final thing they'll ever release I expect.It defies logic. If QP are all about creating accessible product, then how in the world are Brian's obscure 90s collaborations deemed more marketable than alternate versions of songs off Queen's classic albums? |
| tomchristie22 02.01.2016 00:26 |
Negative Creep wrote: If the band were as savvy as they like to make outThat's the thing - only half of the band is involved in the choices made these days. Were John and Freddie still around/involved in band matters, I feel QPL would operate with far more dignity, business sense, and good taste for music and graphic design (seriously - Freddie, the incredible artist and graphic design major that he was, would've said something to the right people about how hideous some of the cover art has been over the last decade or so). |
| tero! 48531 02.01.2016 02:33 |
The Real Wizard wrote: It defies logic.That's Queen Productions in a nutshell. The Real Wizard wrote: If QP are all about creating accessible product, then how in the world are Brian's obscure 90s collaborations deemed more marketable than alternate versions of songs off Queen's classic albums?Brian's box set isn't about creating an accessible project, it's about his vanity. Roger already had his box set, and Brian needs a bigger one because he's more important. Unfortunately he doesn't have as many albums as Roger, so it has to be padded out with the collaborations. The good thing about collaborations is that it also shows what an important person Brian is, because he has important friends. Based on the previous history of QP, I'll predict that: 1) The collaborations box set will be Brian's next release 2) It will be massively incomplete (because of licensing rights), and have even more issues than The Lot 3) Brian will see its commercial failure as the proof that the other box set isn't needed, and drop any further plans without another word. 4) Queen's GH4 (with all tracks written by Brian) will be released in November 202... |
| Vocal harmony 02.01.2016 08:49 |
tomchristie22 wrote:I think your missing the mark.Negative Creep wrote: If the band were as savvy as they like to make outThat's the thing - only half of the band is involved in the choices made these days. Were John and Freddie still around/involved in band matters, I feel QPL would operate with far more dignity, business sense, and good taste for music and graphic design (seriously - Freddie, the incredible artist and graphic design major that he was, would've said something to the right people about how hideous some of the cover art has been over the last decade or so). Queen touring limited is BM and RT. But Queen productions limited is still what it always has been, with Jim Beach I belueve representing Freddie. Just because BM and RT now have little or no direct contact with JD doesn't mean he doesn't have any input into what is released |
| Vocal harmony 02.01.2016 08:56 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Agreed, but I can also understand BM wanting his music out there.brians wig wrote: Greg mentioned this at Convention in November. He's currently cataloguing Brian's archive for what "may" become two boxsets as Brian is keen to have all his collaborative works released as well. Goodness knows how rights issues will be sorted for that boxset though. Any Queen boxset just gets further and further away as, let's face it, that's the final thing they'll ever release I expect.It defies logic. If QP are all about creating accessible product, then how in the world are Brian's obscure 90s collaborations deemed more marketable than alternate versions of songs off Queen's classic albums? I think it's great that we now seem to be getting some old Queen shows on DVD but I believe that the track choices and content of the 40th anniversary bonus discs was not very good and when compared to what Jimmy Page has done with Zeppelin seem quit poor and still needs to be addressed. |