| Nick Browning 17.11.2015 05:10 |
WARNING: IF YOU DON'T LIKE GETTING SPOILED OR HATE GETTING A NEGATIVE OPINION ON SOMETHING YOU LIKE JUST SIMMER DOWN AND RELAX I recently just got the album three day earlier (not the video), the album starts off with mostly Bob Harris' speech being cut short for the song Now I'm Here. As i'm listening to the album the drums sounds way too heavy in the mix with the guitar and bass being slightly buried. The vocals overdubs are is like trying to put a puzzle together. In almost every song (ex. Bohemian Rhapsody) you can hear the overdub where Freddie's throat cracks were or just for shit and giggles. The vocal overdubs make Freddie sound way too emotional and scared as if he just saw Miley Cyrus nude pics. In conclusion, the album is worth getting but be aware that there will be overdubs. Grade: A- |
| Oscar J 17.11.2015 06:00 |
The drums are not all that high in the mix. They're not very nicely mixed though - while the bass drum cuts through the mix great, the snare and the toms don't sound great as they have a lot of nice click, but almost no body (tone/ring) to them. The hi-hat is messy - it's just a constant hiss and it's very hard to hear the stick action. Rest of the mix is alright IMO, but there's something about the overall panning and soundscape that makes it a much less impressive listen than for example the March Rainbow concert. |
| MercurialFreddie 17.11.2015 07:22 |
"...but there's something about the overall panning and soundscape that makes it a much less impressive listen than for example the March Rainbow concert." Very well said. I wonder why the audio is presented like that. Maybe they were limited by the quality of the master tapes or they way the instruments were recorded that night ? The engineers responsible for recording audio were part of Queen crew or the BBC ? |
| Queenman!! 17.11.2015 09:20 |
When can I order the new Hyde Park DVD? |
| Nitroboy 17.11.2015 10:13 |
MercurialFreddie wrote:The engineers responsible for recording audio were part of Queen crew or the BBC ? Queen crew I believe |
| artist_nine 17.11.2015 11:54 |
MercurialFreddie wrote: The engineers responsible for recording audio were part of Queen crew or the BBC ?Looking at the booklet and the sleeve notes I'd say it was recorded by the BBC. |
| Estranged 17.11.2015 15:38 |
The kickdrum is too damn loud in the mix. |
| mooghead 17.11.2015 15:51 |
My review of Rainbow, which is widely regarded as the best review in the world, concluded with the amazingly insightful 'it looks amazing but I have no idea what I am listening too' in relation to overdubs. I have a feeling that Hammersmith will be the same. I will reserve judgement however until said product has been consumed after which I will no doubt provide the world with another insightful and bang on critique. |
| Jimmy Dean 17.11.2015 16:09 |
Nick Browning wrote: make Freddie sound way too emotional and scared as if he just saw Miley Cyrus nude pics.I laughed when i read that. Thanks! |
| jondickens1 18.11.2015 00:13 |
I believe prewiews can be heard on I tunes. Can't listen to them myself however as I have an android phone. But for those who'd like to hear and are able to,......... |
| master marathon runner 18.11.2015 07:11 |
........at least it features Freddie and not "A L"...............calm down, only kidding, just a little levity. |
| cmsdrums 18.11.2015 13:50 |
Estranged wrote: The kickdrum is too damn loud in the mix.But that's not possible....;-) |
| Ale Solan 18.11.2015 14:03 |
jondickens1 wrote: I believe prewiews can be heard on I tunes. Can't listen to them myself however as I have an android phone. But for those who'd like to hear and are able to,.........the full album can be downloaded since a week ago in FLAC on rutracker.org artwork included (Hollywood Records version) |
| pittrek 18.11.2015 15:05 |
The bad things - no Stone Fox Chase (does Brian have something against fox chasing ?) - almost no Bob Harris intro - John is buried down in the mix, I got used to listen to listen to his bass lines in many songs, e.g. the r'n'r medley The good things : - I didn't notice any obvious overdubs (unlike in the 2009 mix) - they included the "audience gaps" - did anybody check if they're complete or am I the only person on planet Earth obsessed with these things ? - they left Roger's mistake(s) in White Queen, I was pretty sure they will "correct" them - nice stereo sound - few seconds more during SWAFIB (I start to think I have some form of OCD :-) ) Overall the mix is better than I expected, I'll definitely buy the official release. |
| Oscar J 18.11.2015 15:24 |
pittrek: What mistakes are we talking about? I think Roger was amazing in this version of WQ. |
| pittrek 18.11.2015 15:34 |
The best example is after Freddie's "still I wait" in the beginning of the instrumental section, around 2:46 |
| Oscar J 18.11.2015 15:39 |
You mean the sort of "missing" backbeat? Pretty sure that's not a mistake, but an intentional syncopation. :) |
| pittrek 18.11.2015 15:45 |
Well they fixed Freddie's locaaaalityyyyyyy in Milton Keynes and I wouldn't call that an error too :) |
| brians wig 18.11.2015 16:47 |
pittrek wrote: The bad things - John is buried down in the mix, I got used to listen to listen to his bass lines in many songs, e.g. the r'n'r medleyWell. John isn't there to fight his corner is he? I still smart at what I heard 20 years ago about how Brian told Roger & John what they'd done with the MIH tracks (whilst he was off on his solo tours) was shit, and he took over and gave every song on the entire album that "same" sound. Would love to hear what R&J did. |
| Bike It 80 18.11.2015 17:54 |
brians wig wrote: I still smart at what I heard 20 years ago about how Brian told Roger & John what they'd done with the MIH tracks (whilst he was off on his solo tours) was shit, and he took over and gave every song on the entire album that "same" sound. Would love to hear what R&J did.I was thinking the exact same thing the other day, I'd really like to hear that as well. |
| musicland munich 18.11.2015 18:58 |
I have a more psychological problem with that release. It just don't turn me on somehow. The lack of worthy bonus material is another potential issue imo. |
| cmsdrums 19.11.2015 02:47 |
I too would love to hear some of Roger and John's early Made In Heaven versions/mixes. |
| The Real Wizard 19.11.2015 10:59 |
cmsdrums wrote: I too would love to hear some of Roger and John's early Made In Heaven versions/mixes.I second that, if they ever do a studio box set (spoiler alert: they very likely won't.) It's seriously an important part of their history - it's what brought Brian back into the band and, ultimately, somehow led to Deacon's departure. We'll probably never know why. |
| Nitroboy 19.11.2015 11:34 |
The Real Wizard wrote:cmsdrums wrote: I too would love to hear some of Roger and John's early Made In Heaven versions/mixes.I second that, if they ever do a studio box set (spoiler alert: they very likely won't.) It's seriously an important part of their history - it's what brought Brian back into the band and, ultimately, somehow led to Deacon's departure. We'll probably never know why. My quick guess is creative differences, regarding the future of the band as it was back then. |
| Mr.QueenFan 19.11.2015 15:32 |
brians wig wrote: Well. John isn't there to fight his corner is he? I still smart at what I heard 20 years ago about how Brian told Roger & John what they'd done with the MIH tracks (whilst he was off on his solo tours) was shit, and he took over and gave every song on the entire album that "same" sound. Would love to hear what R&J did.And in the process Brian helped creating the most beautiful record in rock! Don't get me wrong, i would love to hear what Roger and John did too, but after i heard "MIH" my only thought was that it was perfect! It's probably the best Brian record in Queen - every single note Brian played was perfect and made sense. And the "same" sound you're refering to that Brian applied to all the album was essencial to create some kind of conceptual album. I completely respect those who prefer the 89 version of "My life has been Saved", but the 1995 is perfect for the record. And i believe that Brian made all the good decisions for the songs, because in this case - MLHBS - he took out some guitars to give it that sound. And bottom line is if Roger and John didn't agree with it, they wouldn't have approved it. Brian is hardly a bully inside Queen, and Roger and John aren't two pussies who would agree to Brian to not piss him off. But after they'd heard what Brian did to "Made in Heaven" and specially "IWBTLY" maybe they realized that what they had donne couldn't be compared with what the end result was with Brian's input. I think this is all natural! And just one final note about John and this new release: I don't think it's a matter of John being there to fight his corner or not. These guys are in the music business for more than 40 years, and they do what it's best for the music. It would be pretty childish for them to be fighting about wanting their instrument louder in the mix for no other reason than they are playing it. I don't think they became successful musicians with this kind of attitude. If they ruin one instrument sound on purpose they are ruining the music for everybody. I don't know how anyone could win in this situation. |
| Mr.QueenFan 19.11.2015 15:39 |
The Real Wizard wrote: It's seriously an important part of their history - it's what brought Brian back into the band and, ultimately, somehow led to Deacon's departure. We'll probably never know why.I don't think John wanted to leave Queen. He wanted to leave the spotlight and i think it's pretty obvious why. The only way to get out of the spotlight was to leave Queen. |
| Oscar J 19.11.2015 16:50 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8usNj4x9NA |
| mooghead 19.11.2015 17:20 |
He didn't want to leave Queen, but after Queen ceased to exist in 1991 he found it very easy.... |
| Hangman_96 19.11.2015 18:00 |
Queenman!! wrote: When can I order the new Hyde Park DVD?Next autumn. Or in 2076. There is no third option. |
| Kevinrm15 19.11.2015 21:04 |
Well I managed to get the DVD a day early due to my friend working at a record store. So here is my review: The concert itself is great. The picture quality is the same as always. But the sound is better than ever. Now for the documentary...very well executed. A few laughs in there too. There is a little bit of the soundcheck audio there. Freddie talks about where Bob Harris will do his introduction, and there's a small bit of Bo Rhap where Brian does a guitar solo at the BEGINNING of the song. Although Bob's intro isn't on the main feature. You can see it in full in the doc. No one talks over it. There is also a little bit of Hyde Park footage at the end. Makes me hopefully for the next release. As for Japan 75...same as the Days of Our Lives Japanese bonus footage. |
| KevoM 20.11.2015 06:19 |
Is anyone going to do their own cover art and replace the ghastly original? Much like backing your text books at school! |
| MackMantilla 20.11.2015 07:33 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: Well I managed to get the DVD a day early due to my friend working at a record store. So here is my review: The concert itself is great. The picture quality is the same as always. But the sound is better than ever. Now for the documentary...very well executed. A few laughs in there too. There is a little bit of the soundcheck audio there. Freddie talks about where Bob Harris will do his introduction, and there's a small bit of Bo Rhap where Brian does a guitar solo at the BEGINNING of the song. Although Bob's intro isn't on the main feature. You can see it in full in the doc. No one talks over it. There is also a little bit of Hyde Park footage at the end. Makes me hopefully for the next release. As for Japan 75...same as the Days of Our Lives Japanese bonus footage.The little bit of soundcheck is the same track (Now I'm here) or another song? |
| Michael Allred 20.11.2015 10:37 |
I would say Odeon sounds about as good as Rainbow but definitely looks better. I also liked the menu design. Disappointed that we were still stuck with the awful cover art after seeing a different image on Best Buy web site. also of note, the Japan 75 footage looks and sounds pretty dreadful. |
| MercurialFreddie 20.11.2015 10:46 |
Woah, they really give Brain hell over on the steve hoffman forum. Does he really have the last word whether it comes to the sound of the mix, using of the autotune etc. ? |
| Liquid Scream 20.11.2015 12:05 |
I didn't think it was possible but the negativity about this release on the Hoffman Forums is far worse than this site. |
| NickESB 20.11.2015 14:05 |
If you heard the recent BBC Radio 2 documentary on Bo Rhap, you'll realise a lot of the soundbites were taken from the interviews used in the bonus documentary. |
| Queenman!! 20.11.2015 14:57 |
Michael Allred wrote: I would say Odeon sounds about as good as Rainbow but definitely looks better. I also liked the menu design. Disappointed that we were still stuck with the awful cover art after seeing a different image on Best Buy web site. also of note, the Japan 75 footage looks and sounds pretty dreadful.================================== This hints maybe why QP only put's three songs on this release. They just dont have the mastertapes anymore.As they didn't have from Milton Keynes, Montreal and Budapest. So no new shots or so. Just an uncut 40 year old VHS quality tape that they transferred to DVD from the japanese TV, with some extra shots here and there from other songs but not complete. |
| Your Fairy King 20.11.2015 17:06 |
I don't know much technical terminology but I listed to A Night at the Odeon on a free streaming service today and immediately determined not to buy it. It does not sound right to my ears. Queen's live sound at that time was always a bit thin (Brian playing single notes against the bass and drum). This product seems to have some kind of effect on the guitar that doesn't ring true in an attempt to make it sound fuller. Also, with the exception of the inclusion of Bohemian Rhapsody and the Black Queen snippet, the set list is too similar to Rainbow 74 (November) - combine that with the songs that weren't performed (Flick of the Wrist and Sweet Lady) it's not something I need to own and blast from my stereo. I won't be buy the Blu Ray, either. I own a good quality bootleg DVD of the show but haven't watched it in years. The filming (camera angles) and editing pale in comparison to Rainbow 74 November video. Looking forward to finally seeing Hyde Park '76 sometime next year! |
| Bad Seed 20.11.2015 18:02 |
Looks decent, sounds decent, an improvement over anything previous in my opinion. However, why oh why did they decide not to include the Bob Harris intro??? Absolutely baffled by that. |
| Jake12 20.11.2015 20:15 |
Just a thought I had... Most Queen fans are in there 40's, 50's and 60's no one is getting younger.. So with that wouldn't they want to releases everything or most of these Queen gems now or in the next 5 years? So people who actually saw Queen from the beginning can actually see and hear all this material that is locked up In the vault? By the way I'm 20 and I'm absolutely obsessed with Queen but I want to know aswell how many newer generation die hard Queen fans are there like me That QPL would actually release this stuff in let's say 30 years? Probably not as much as original from the beginning Queen fans! The martial like Unreleased songs/demos, concerts need to come out ASAP! |
| Jake12 20.11.2015 20:19 |
Let's hope that QPL put more effort in Hyde Park because it is seriously a very important concert for the Queen fans! And speaking of other concerts.. Knebworth needs to be released.. It is the very LAST QUEEN SHOW! QPL needs to realize that this is something they need to release weather they like the thought or not! And if that ever does come out.. It needs to be one hell of a Live album/DVD! |
| GinjaNinja 21.11.2015 11:46 |
Looks like they've done a pretty good job at removing the credits that originally rolled over the video towards the end of Jailhouse Rock. |
| Sunshine 22.11.2015 11:12 |
Questions: How is it possible that they fixed John's out of tune bass on See What A Fool I've Been? And i dont think Freddie's vocals sound natural all the way through the record, too much reverb. |
| MercurialFreddie 22.11.2015 12:18 |
What about the Dynamic Range of the 24/96 audio track included on both Blu-ray and DVD ? The database only has the audio cd version and according to it... the dynamic range sucks (link :(((( |
| cmi 22.11.2015 12:37 |
Hey, DR8 is great for nowadays! It's not brickwalled at all as was Rainbow November 1974 gig. |
| alberbal12 22.11.2015 17:02 |
For me, this concert is a well known for us, maybe can be new because of the new restoring, but nothing new. The documentary is fine gold, with so nice snippets from the Japan tour and from Hyde Park free gig, that reminds me that for sure will be the 2016 release, because the images are in a very good quality, almost as same as Rainbow or Hammersmith. Budokan clips are the same as the "Days Of Our Lives" Japanese extra, so raw, so mytical, so Queen!! |
| cmi 23.11.2015 14:37 |
I just watched the DVD. It was great BUT... it's a shame they didn't feature full Bob Harris introduction and the video after Jailhouse Rock Medley immediately freeze and that's all... But there's about 10 seconds of video available after that moment which they cut out or didn't bother to edit in from a different source for proper ending... But they bother to edit in useless frames here and there throughout the concert. As always no 100% perfect product from QPL, even if it's easy to achieve. |
| The Real Wizard 24.11.2015 12:00 |
link ^ I just created a version of Now I'm Here with the Harris intro from the Odeon documentary. Just replace track 1 of your rip with this copy and you're good to go ! |
| cmi 24.11.2015 13:06 |
Actually they didn't feature 'complete' Harris' introduction. Also all soundtrack from the documentary is in MONO...even the musical part... so this merge doesn't work. MONO track needs to be echo/delay processed before the merge. |
| The Real Wizard 24.11.2015 14:22 |
Ha, it's funny - I did the fix without headphones, so you can hear exactly where I made the cut. Take it or leave it. It's more complete, so it's there if anyone wants it. |
| Queenman!! 25.11.2015 03:01 |
Yesterday I took a look at the comments on Queenonline for this release. It seems the moderator removed a lot of the negative comments for the dreadful artwort and content. Way to go ... QP. |
| 99jaystang 25.11.2015 04:10 |
So did any Canadians notice the release date for the box set and vinyl set at dec18 now? I even pre ordered it couple months ago on Amazon.ca WTF! cd/blu ray are available. Its available on Amazon.com (United States) . |
| Bike It 80 25.11.2015 08:54 |
99jaystang wrote: So did any Canadians notice the release date for the box set and vinyl set at dec18 now? I even pre ordered it couple months ago on Amazon.ca WTF! cd/blu ray are available. Its available on Amazon.com (United States) .I don't think Queen released anything on the due date in the past few years in Canada... I remember in 2004, the "Live at the Bowl" DVD release date got pushed back twice... Speaking of releases in Canada/USA, anyone noticed that the CD+DVD/CD+BR combos of "Odeon" aren't released in North America? You have to buy the CD and DVD or BR separately... |
| 99jaystang 25.11.2015 20:12 |
maybe cd/blu rays are made in the north america and the vinyl and bigger box sets are made in Europe. My Studio Vinyl box set was made in Europe with no Hollywood records label on it,, it had a Virgin label on it. |
| Biggus Dickus 25.11.2015 23:59 |
I wonder how many years they have known they will release Hammersmith in 2015. Brian says in the documentary something about it being 40 years since the concert. His hair is dark so this interview was made years ago. |
| Queenman!! 26.11.2015 02:17 |
Biggus Dickus wrote: I wonder how many years they have known they will release Hammersmith in 2015. Brian says in the documentary something about it being 40 years since the concert. His hair is dark so this interview was made years ago.======================= end 2011, early 2012 I suppose. |
| cmi 26.11.2015 02:24 |
2009 for sure. |
| Ken8 26.11.2015 05:07 |
Your Fairy King wrote: I don't know much technical terminology but I listed to A Night at the Odeon on a free streaming service today and immediately determined not to buy it. It does not sound right to my ears. Queen's live sound at that time was always a bit thin...Or it could be listening to it on a compressed free streaming service |
| Ken8 26.11.2015 05:13 |
Biggus Dickus wrote: I wonder how many years they have known they will release Hammersmith in 2015. Brian says in the documentary something about it being 40 years since the concert. His hair is dark so this interview was made years ago.Anyone know when this was shot? It is in HD but as you point out there's Brian's hair color. It's copyright 2015 too |
| Biggus Dickus 26.11.2015 05:21 |
Ken8 wrote:Roger is also lacking the heavy beard he sports these days, so it must have been filmed at least few years back. I can't remember exactly when Brian went grey.Biggus Dickus wrote: I wonder how many years they have known they will release Hammersmith in 2015. Brian says in the documentary something about it being 40 years since the concert. His hair is dark so this interview was made years ago.Anyone know when this was shot? It is in HD but as you point out there's Brian's hair color. It's copyright 2015 too |
| rhapsody8 26.11.2015 08:29 |
link |
| Nitroboy 26.11.2015 11:25 |
I just got my copy today in the mail (Blu-ray alone), and was surprised to see ALL of the audio tracks are 96/24 |
| NickESB 26.11.2015 12:23 |
cmi wrote: 2009 for sure.Yes - surely it was shot when the BBC rebroadcast the show (which IIRC was 2009), complete with the new Bob Harris intro? |
| Oscar J 26.11.2015 12:35 |
Anyone got their deluxe boxset yet? What's Now I'm Here (soundcheck) like? |
| cmi 26.11.2015 14:59 |
NickESB wrote:Yes, of course.cmi wrote: 2009 for sure.Yes - surely it was shot when the BBC rebroadcast the show (which IIRC was 2009), complete with the new Bob Harris intro? |
| Jedi Knight 26.11.2015 19:17 |
Oscar J wrote: Anyone got their deluxe boxset yet? What's Now I'm Here (soundcheck) like? -------------------------------------------------------- Actually Now I'm Here (soundcheck) is a pretty nice version. |
| on my way up 27.11.2015 04:32 |
Jedi Knight wrote:It's wonderful!Oscar J wrote: Anyone got their deluxe boxset yet? What's Now I'm Here (soundcheck) like?-------------------------------------------------------- Actually Now I'm Here (soundcheck) is a pretty nice version. Freddie does alternative phrasing... showing once again what an incredibly creative musician he was. I enjoyed it very much. If only they had included more of the soundcheck... |
| pittrek 27.11.2015 05:37 |
Seriously there's no excuse why they didn't release the whole soundcheck on a bonus CD. They're just lazy. That stuff is brilliant. |
| Viper 27.11.2015 06:15 |
I'm still waiting for the box edition to arrive. It's indeed a shame the soundcheck is on vinyl... |
| Nitroboy 27.11.2015 08:21 |
At least vinyl doesn't allow for ridiculous DRM like: "ONLY PLAYABLE ON THE QUEEN RIGA TURNTABLE!" |
| Barry Durex 27.11.2015 08:49 |
A low quality is now on youtube. |
| Biggus Dickus 27.11.2015 08:54 |
Nitroboy wrote: At least vinyl doesn't allow for ridiculous DRM like: "ONLY PLAYABLE ON THE QUEEN RIGA TURNTABLE!" Hey don't give them any ideas for the future! |
| Viper 27.11.2015 09:32 |
The soundcheck version seems interesting |
| NCC1701Q 27.11.2015 09:36 |
Did any of you get the "Reproduction of 2 balloons dropped into the crowd at the end of the 24th December 1975 Hammersmith show " in your box set? Mine seems to be missing.... |
| Biggus Dickus 27.11.2015 10:46 |
NCC1701Q wrote: Did any of you get the "Reproduction of 2 balloons dropped into the crowd at the end of the 24th December 1975 Hammersmith show " in your box set? Mine seems to be missing.... Oh no! Don't tell me they fucked up this vital ingredient of the box set. I can't remember them being in the unboxing video either. Shame on you QPL, we want our balloons! |
| Oscar J 27.11.2015 10:53 |
The soundcheck version of Now I'm Here is awesome. I wish Freddie was more adventurous with his phrasings during the actual concerts as well. |
| alberbal12 27.11.2015 11:47 |
Oscar J wrote: The soundcheck version of Now I'm Here is awesome. I wish Freddie was more adventurous with his phrasings during the actual concerts as well.Does anybody have this audio in FLAC or in MP3 but directly ripped from vinyl? |
| Nitroboy 27.11.2015 15:14 |
The result of blurring out the original credits looks terrible. |
| Barry Durex 27.11.2015 15:36 |
Really, can you post a video sample or some screen shots? |
| Oscar J 27.11.2015 16:02 |
Disagree Nitroboy. While I don't remember where the credits actually were in the previous video, I haven't been able to spot the artefacts even when looking for them in the new one. In my opinion that should indicate they've done a decent job. |
| popy 27.11.2015 16:55 |
cmi wrote: Actually they didn't feature 'complete' Harris' introduction. Also all soundtrack from the documentary is in MONO...even the musical part... so this merge doesn't work. MONO track needs to be echo/delay processed before the merge.Don't understand why they didn't include the full intro. Lack of space on the discs? LOL! Maybe someone will take the full intro (including the Old Grey Wistle Test theme) from the 2009 broadcast and make a really full version of the show. Also, the documentary has mono sound on the DVD, but it's stereo on Blu-Ray. |
| Ken8 27.11.2015 20:12 |
rhapsody8 wrote: linkThanks, nice find |
| Biggus Dickus 27.11.2015 23:41 |
An unboxing of the box set. link |
| NickESB 28.11.2015 04:27 |
Ken8 wrote:If you look at Brian's hair colour in the documentary, and then that clip of BHM on the One Show also listed on this link from 2011, his hair colour is completely different.rhapsody8 wrote: linkThanks, nice find |
| LucasDiego 28.11.2015 07:12 |
UK Album Charts A Night At Odeon: 40 Greatest Hits: 68 UK Update Charts A Night At Odeon: 30 Greatest Hits: 73 UK Sale Charts: A Night At Odeon: 37 Greatest Hits: 72 UK Streaming Charts: Greatest Hits: 70 UK Physical Charts A Night At Odeon: 35 Greatest Hits: 65 UK Vinyl Charts A Night At Odeon: 6 Scottish Charts A Night At Odeon: 36 Greatest Hits: 82 Really desappointed charts. |
| popy 28.11.2015 12:36 |
NickESB wrote:Ken8 wrote:If you look at Brian's hair colour in the documentary, and then that clip of BHM on the One Show also listed on this link from 2011, his hair colour is completely different.rhapsody8 wrote: http://brianmay.com/brian/briannews/briannewssep11.htmlThanks, nice find Of course it is. Altough the post in Brian Soapbox was in 2011 and the video is also from that year, the photo that illustrates the video was taken in 2009. Brian posted that photo, or a very similar one, in 2009. I can't find it anymore, Brian Soapbox doesn't let us see post older than 2010, so here it is the photo on Bob Harris website http://www.bobharris.org/pages/gallerypics.asp?artist=Queen (Bob with Brian May and Roger Taylor reminiscing about the Queen OGWT Hammersmith Odeon Christmas Special (1975 - Bo Rap was No.1). June 2009) |
| Marknow 28.11.2015 14:00 |
With all these questions about the who, what, the where and when we should not forget that the BD looks and sounds fantastic and the performance is fucking stellar. Yeah it's a bit old hat for us die-hards but by fuck it's a great show by the band. I'm delighted I bought this, it's essential viewing lovingly presented. Dear QPL, I have more monies for stuff like this, please don't skip past Hyde Park, please!!!!! |
| gooddrills 09.12.2015 04:28 |
The artwork is fucking awful beyond belief. Who approved that and why? Ugly as arseholes. The packaging of a product is important |
| Rick 09.12.2015 12:29 |
What bits of Hyde Park are in the documentary and what is the quality? |
| Nitroboy 09.12.2015 13:42 |
Rick wrote: What bits of Hyde Park are in the documentary and what is the quality? Nothing that hasn't been seen before. |
| artist_nine 13.12.2015 04:08 |
Now that I've listened to the Night a the Odeon for a while, I have to say that I'm more pleased with it than I thought I would be. I like the fact that the backing vocals are not overdubbed as in both Rainbow concerts. However, I like the overall sound more on the Rainbow sets. I don't know whether it is due to the fact that they had better source material (the Rainbow concerts were recorded by Roy Thomas Baker as opposed to the A Night at the Odeon being recorded by BBC engineers) for the Rainbow concerts or what, but I wish they could have mixed the drums on A night at the Odeon more like they are on the Rainbow concerts. Now, I've always wondered about the guitar(s) on Now I'm Here. Both the Rainbow concerts and A Night at the Odeon have the high "squealing" guitar part after "I'm just a...". Since they seemed to be so against using tapes, I'm not sure how else Brian could have achieved that sound since he is clearly seen playing the chord at that moment. He could have pre-recorded the high guitar part to his tape-delay box and triggered it at the appropriate moment? What is also quite strange is the fact that the effect is not heard again on the subsequent official live releases. Why stop using such a cool effect? |
| Biggus Dickus 13.12.2015 05:10 |
^^ I seem to remember that on some of their latter days tour that part of NIH was played by the keyboard player, whoever it happened to be at the time. |
| tomchristie22 13.12.2015 05:16 |
The squealing guitar part was indeed from a tape - they did a similar thing with the screams from the middle section of Ogre Battle. With both those things in mind, I don't think they were against using tapes at all, really. I'd guess that they stopped using the playback for that part of Now I'm Here because they were starting to play it with a much faster tempo. They could have gone into the studio and sped the part up to suit, but I guess they weren't attached to it enough/didn't think it was essential enough for the effort. |
| artist_nine 13.12.2015 06:00 |
Guitarist Brian May, “There weren’t any tricks to be had. It’s all live and dangerous, as it is now with us." link But technically it is not all live because a tape was used. :) |
| Sheer Brass Neck 13.12.2015 11:48 |
It's Roger's quote that gets me. "I said to Brian, ‘These tracks are great!’ I forgot that we were a really heavy band.” Early Queen live shows were awesome rock spectacles, today's too slick pop shows are like a different band entirely. |
| Sunshine 13.12.2015 12:28 |
Tape is also used for the intro of Father To Son live |
| Makka 15.12.2015 22:02 |
I got the Bluray version with the audio CD. I'm more than happy with the result of this great old concert. Hope we see more of these old concerts released in the future still. |
| jozef 17.12.2015 13:53 |
I got the Bluray and CD too ... Just my only one qustion is - Why I must hear so terrible sound of the Taylor's drums ?... Where is a snare drum and a hi-hat there in the sound mix ??? WTF ??? |
| Oscar J 17.12.2015 18:43 |
The hihat is terrible. It's just a constant hiss. :) |
| matte9898 18.12.2015 08:12 |
Yes, hi hat has very strange sound... On rainbow (november) it is very powerful... |
| Negative Creep 18.12.2015 09:39 |
There would be a more consistent quality to the Queen releases if they stopped and thought about employing professionals, instead of seemingly taking people on who have blagged their way into their jobs. You've got amateurs like Greg Brooks and Gary Taylor involved in not only archiving and cataloguing but even doing sleeve notes etc, and Josh MacRae and Justin Shirley-Smith mixing. Fucking hell. You would with a company headed by several multi-millionnaires, they would stick their hands in their pockets, and get the very best people in to work on their music but they don't. And that's the worrying thing about a potential anthology type release, is that anything that's needed to be mixed fresh they will suffer at the hands of these fools who radically change the drum sound etc etc as the couple of outtakes that turned up on the re-issues showed. Any cunt can take the new digital multitracks of professionally recorded and engineered recordings and create something that sounds OK, it takes a real pro to get them sounding great. It's all very odd in QPL land. |
| Biggus Dickus 18.12.2015 12:33 |
Negative Creep wrote: There would be a more consistent quality to the Queen releases if they stopped and thought about employing professionals, instead of seemingly taking people on who have blagged their way into their jobs. You've got amateurs like Greg Brooks and Gary Taylor involved in not only archiving and cataloguing but even doing sleeve notes etc, and Josh MacRae and Justin Shirley-Smith mixing. Fucking hell. You would with a company headed by several multi-millionnaires, they would stick their hands in their pockets, and get the very best people in to work on their music but they don't. And that's the worrying thing about a potential anthology type release, is that anything that's needed to be mixed fresh they will suffer at the hands of these fools who radically change the drum sound etc etc as the couple of outtakes that turned up on the re-issues showed. Any cunt can take the new digital multitracks of professionally recorded and engineered recordings and create something that sounds OK, it takes a real pro to get them sounding great. It's all very odd in QPL land.Couldn't have said it better. |
| cmi 19.12.2015 07:15 |
+1. It seems since Jim Beach arrival into Queen camp, band started to be surrounded by wrong personnel. With exception of David Richards. |
| Queenman!! 19.12.2015 09:33 |
Negative Creep wrote: There would be a more consistent quality to the Queen releases if they stopped and thought about employing professionals, instead of seemingly taking people on who have blagged their way into their jobs. You've got amateurs like Greg Brooks and Gary Taylor involved in not only archiving and cataloguing but even doing sleeve notes etc, and Josh MacRae and Justin Shirley-Smith mixing. Fucking hell. You would with a company headed by several multi-millionnaires, they would stick their hands in their pockets, and get the very best people in to work on their music but they don't. And that's the worrying thing about a potential anthology type release, is that anything that's needed to be mixed fresh they will suffer at the hands of these fools who radically change the drum sound etc etc as the couple of outtakes that turned up on the re-issues showed. Any cunt can take the new digital multitracks of professionally recorded and engineered recordings and create something that sounds OK, it takes a real pro to get them sounding great. It's all very odd in QPL land.======================================= Don't forget the executive producers were Brian May and Roger as stated in the endcredits.They must found the mix excellent for a release and THEIR will is law. |
| Negative Creep 20.12.2015 10:11 |
Queenman!! wrote: Don't forget the executive producers were Brian May and Roger as stated in the endcredits.They must found the mix excellent for a release and THEIR will is law.Sure, of course Brian and Roger OK everything. I would be surprised if they gve stuff like this that much of a critical listen though, particularly Roger.... and they must both have serious tinnitus and hearing loss from years of touring etc. If they gave this kind of material to serious mix engineers to work on, the results would blow away what we're getting... but beggars can't be choosers in this situation! |
| cmi 24.12.2015 07:44 |
It was 40 Years ago today.... |
| cmsdrums 02.01.2016 09:22 |
I've just picked up the blu Ray and cd package cheap.....surprised to see that Richard Gray isn't responsible for the cover artwork - which to my mind is their worst ever. However I read in the sleeve notes that 'art direction and design' is jointly by Greg Brooks.....are they really that desperate to save costs at QPL that they are now doing several jobs outside of their 'expertise', and becoming 'jacks of all trades and masters of none'?? |
| Oscar J 02.01.2016 16:43 |
^ Listened to it yet? :) |
| Queenman!! 02.01.2016 16:51 |
It's one patetic show there. |
| Viper 05.01.2016 03:02 |
I think the video release has great picture. They did a good job with an old tape. It's a shame the 2nd encore hasn't been filmed... |