| antiden 31.10.2015 12:51 |
Hello, Queenzoners! I've found the "Queen in Buenos Aires 1981" show WITHOUT logo in my video collection. I'm curious, whether there is a better quality version in the circulation? Attached is the screenshot of my copy. |
| antiden 31.10.2015 12:53 |
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| Barry Durex 31.10.2015 13:17 |
The only logo free version of the complete broadcast I know of is this one, so I guess it would be a good comparison. Is your copy the full 118 minute broadcast? |
| brians wig 31.10.2015 13:39 |
If you're willing and able to share it, that would be great. We'll never truly know if it's better until we can compare it. How would you capture it? into PC and then encode or straight to a DVD recorder? |
| pittrek 31.10.2015 13:40 |
After "somebody" removes the ghosting and chroma noise it would look really great ! |
| antiden 31.10.2015 13:42 |
@ Barry Durex: Yes, my copy is 118 minutes. Barry, do you have the full version, a sample of which you've provided? |
| DepeX 31.10.2015 14:02 |
The copy Barry linked to is the Kurgan version. Please Antiden, share this version! |
| antiden 31.10.2015 14:07 |
DepeX wrote: The copy Barry linked to is the Kurgan version. Please Antiden, share this version!Is Kurgan's version available fo free? |
| Barry Durex 31.10.2015 14:16 |
antiden wrote:It's listed as a trade item at TTD, although a couple of songs from it have been shared.DepeX wrote: The copy Barry linked to is the Kurgan version. Please Antiden, share this version!Is Kurgan's version available for free? http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=61247 |
| antiden 31.10.2015 15:04 |
It's a pity, that Kurgan's version is for trade only... It's of great quality. Still here's a sample from my copy (Need Your Loving Tonight): link |
| Sue Dounim 31.10.2015 15:25 |
do you mean no logo as in just no QTV logo? Cuz the 9 and QUEEN are still there and show up even sooner than on Kurgan's copy. The picture quality is also significantly worse. |
| Barry Durex 31.10.2015 15:31 |
The ''9'' and 'QUEEN'' are shown intermittently throughout the complete original canal 9 broadcast. The ''no logo'' refers to the added QTV information on screen. TTD version is a direct copy from QTV cable. It looks like antiden's copy may be a generation or so more down the line. |
| Sue Dounim 31.10.2015 15:39 |
I do find it interesting that they show up at different times. the 9 and QUEEN show up pretty soon on antiden's share but on Kurgan's video it doesn't show up til 1:40 This could still be worth sharing because maybe it could be used to splice into the better copy and reduce the amount of time the 9 and QUEEN are visible. |
| Barry Durex 31.10.2015 15:42 |
But then you would end up with a copy that constantly changes in quality? |
| Sue Dounim 31.10.2015 15:45 |
well you could cut in sections of the picture like what Pittrek did with his DVD of Hammersmith '75 |
| Barry Durex 31.10.2015 15:54 |
The 9 and QUEEN kick in at the same time on both clips anyway? |
| Nitroboy 31.10.2015 19:47 |
Barry Durex wrote: But then you would end up with a copy that constantly changes in quality? Not necessarily. You can use small bits and pieces to mask out watermarks or logos. Chief Mouse has done something like this on Michael Jackson videos (albeit, those weren't 1½ hour long concert videos). |
| Barry Durex 31.10.2015 20:26 |
See my post above yours. |
| BETA215 31.10.2015 23:39 |
If Antiden's version (not talking only about the snippet, maybe it happens in other parts of the video) or other versions shows the 9 and QUEEN logos in different times, we could make a mix with all the versions: Rare Live clips, Kurgan copy snippets, REC (TV program) stream, and Antiden version. |
| Barry Durex 01.11.2015 02:45 |
I see where you're coming from, but I think you will find that antiden's copy is in fact from the same (original) source as the one at TTD. The only difference probably being is that it's an inferior copy (back in the day of trading actual tapes this was the drawback). Both versions probably come from the same full canal 9 broadcast shown on QTV. Therefore the on screen 9 and QUEEN should appear in exactly the same places. |
| DepeX 01.11.2015 09:23 |
In my opinion, if Antiden's copy gets shared and if "someone" puts his hands on it, it will be a great share. |
| antiden 01.11.2015 10:30 |
In my opinion, if Kurgan shares his version, THAT would be great! ) |
| DepeX 01.11.2015 13:31 |
Indeed. |
| Bob Harley 03.11.2015 11:00 |
I just tried what can I do with this and here's what I did: link |
| Bob Harley 03.11.2015 11:06 |
Or here's lossless version. YouTube compressed it. |
| Nitroboy 03.11.2015 13:42 |
I think you're misusing the word "lossless" Bob Harley ;) |
| Bob Harley 03.11.2015 14:59 |
Possible, sorry about this. I wanted to say that YouTube compressed the thing I uploaded in second post, so I uploaded raw file. It's file which wasn't compressed by YouTube. BTW it's interesting to watch non-QTV version, thanks for uploading. |
| Barry Durex 03.11.2015 16:07 |
Bob Harley wrote: BTW it's interesting to watch non-QTV version, thanks for uploading.Where is this non QTV version you mention? |
| lemonysnick123 03.11.2015 20:15 |
Avi isn't lossless. But thanks for that sample! :D |
| BETA215 03.11.2015 20:34 |
Lagarith compression for AVI is indeed lossless. You can use it to preserve the footage. I'm not saying that this was processed with Lagarith, but you could use it. |
| Nitroboy 03.11.2015 21:58 |
BETA215 wrote: Lagarith compression for AVI is indeed lossless. You can use it to preserve the footage. I'm not saying that this was processed with Lagarith, but you could use it. It would be like sharing a WAV file from an MP3 source. MPEG2 encoding isn't lossless, so converting it to lossless would be a waste. But I digress :) |
| la_ultra_zona 04.11.2015 06:40 |
The 'canal 9' logo is on the Master Tape, as stated by Wilki Amieva ages ago. |
| aristide1 04.11.2015 07:52 |
Sue Dounim wrote: I do find it interesting that they show up at different times. the 9 and QUEEN show up pretty soon on antiden's share but on Kurgan's video it doesn't show up til 1:40 This could still be worth sharing because maybe it could be used to splice into the better copy and reduce the amount of time the 9 and QUEEN are visible.Extremely interesting, almost paranormal, considering the two copies are from the same source. |
| Bob Harley 04.11.2015 09:15 |
Barry Durex wrote:Bob Harley wrote: BTW it's interesting to watch non-QTV version, thanks for uploading.Where is this non QTV version you mention? Oops, I mean non-QTV logo version. And the file I uploaded isn't really great, it could be done much better. It was like 5 minutes in VirtualDub. |
| Chief Mouse 07.11.2015 10:15 |
Thanks for the sample. I don't think it's worth working on though. |