| terraj 20.09.2015 12:08 |
Source: Multishow HD Lineage: Local cable TV operator > Receiver > PC HD > TMPGEnc MPEG Smart Rendering 4 (cutting) I got this via a person who prefers to remain anonymous. It's not the same source as the ones floating around on Piratebay. This is a TV cap which preserves the interlacing so it's really 60i rather than 29.97fps (very nice if you have a smart TV/Roku/WDTV that can play this). There are 3 audio tracks in this source, a 5.1 AC3 and 2x 192kbps MP2; details below. Warning: I have not had time to QC this so I have not checked for glitches etc. It's been a while since I've posted a torrent here so hope I did it correctly. Sample (50mb) General ID : 1 (0x1) Format : MPEG-TS File size : 6.38 GiB Duration : 2h 6mn Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 7 234 Kbps Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps Video ID : 4113 (0x1011) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames Codec ID : 27 Duration : 2h 6mn Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 6 101 Kbps Maximum bit rate : 40.0 Mbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 29.970 fps Standard : Component Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : MBAFF Scan order : Top Field First Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.098 Stream size : 5.38 GiB (84%) Audio #1 ID : 4352 (0x1100) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : AC-3 Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 Mode extension : CM (complete main) Format settings, Endianness : Big Codec ID : 129 Duration : 2h 6mn Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 384 Kbps Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Bit depth : 16 bits Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 347 MiB (5%) Audio #2 ID : 4353 (0x1101) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : MPEG Audio Format version : Version 1 Format profile : Layer 2 Codec ID : 4 Duration : 2h 6mn Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 192 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 173 MiB (3%) Audio #3 ID : 4354 (0x1102) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : MPEG Audio Format version : Version 1 Format profile : Layer 2 Codec ID : 4 Duration : 2h 6mn Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 192 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 173 MiB (3%) MD5: 350da68251f331a160d5495e3437a4df |
| Chief Mouse 20.09.2015 12:11 |
Can you post a couple of screenshots? Thanks. |
| Marknow 20.09.2015 12:12 |
Thank you. :) |
| MAYniac91 20.09.2015 12:13 |
Thank you! |
| terraj 20.09.2015 12:15 |
Chief Mouse wrote: Can you post a couple of screenshots? Thanks.I've uploaded the sample |
| Marknow 20.09.2015 12:24 |
Terraj, download the torrent you posted here it will have the tracker on it and will help you to see the lechers, ty. |
| brians wig 20.09.2015 12:35 |
Interlaced? Brilliant! I've just finished downloading the 16gb de-interlaced version from Dime and now this pops up! It's amazing that when Q&AL played iHeart radio at the start of the year, only ONE person capped it, yet there's been a few capping Rio, Let's hope it stays that way. The more people at it, the better the chance of not missing anything. There's far too many people who are not prepared to make an effort to record and share. |
| Marknow 20.09.2015 12:41 |
brians wig wrote: Interlaced? Brilliant! Doesn't seem to be seeding though.... I've just finished downloading the 16gb de-interlaced version from Dime and now this pops up! It's amazing that when Q&AL played iHeart radio at the start of the year, only ONE person capped it, yet there's been a few capping Rio, Let's hope it stays that way. The more people at it, the better the chance of not missing anything. There's far too many people who are not prepared to make an effort to record and share. Here here, great to see all these versions. |
| pittrek 20.09.2015 13:03 |
A third version ? Wow :-) Is here somebody who has watched both the dime version and this and can tell me which one is worth downloading ? |
| terraj 20.09.2015 13:06 |
pittrek wrote: A third version ? Wow :-) Is here somebody who has watched both the dime version and this and can tell me which one is worth downloading ?LOL sorry the new versions keep popping up too quickly I haven't time to watch anything but the original livestream :P |
| Chief Mouse 20.09.2015 13:11 |
terraj wrote:Chief Mouse wrote: Can you post a couple of screenshots? Thanks.I've uploaded the sample Thanks although I get this whatever it is - HTTP Status 404 - /v/RA0DGt6m type Status report message /v/RA0DGt6m description The requested resource (/v/RA0DGt6m) is not available. Apache Tomcat/7.0.25 |
| terraj 20.09.2015 13:21 |
Fixed the sample link, sorry! |
| sinsome 20.09.2015 13:23 |
Thanks very much! |
| wsk 20.09.2015 13:59 |
Thank you very much! |
| Mr.QueenFan 20.09.2015 16:53 |
Thank you. |
| NickESB 21.09.2015 02:14 |
Thank you Terraj and Anonymous uploader! |
| brians wig 21.09.2015 02:26 |
I've had a look at this now and sadly, with the filesize being what it is), the quality isn't as good as the 1080p version at the higher bitrate. There's clear artefacting on this version (damn shame because I prefer interlaced video over de-interlaced anyday). That's not to say it isn't a good picture, but some folks have been asking what the quality differences were between the two. Terraj. Do you know if this is the actual transmission stream or whether it's been re-encoded to a smaller filesize for 'ease of uploading'? As a typical fan though, I'll be keeping both! COMING SOON: (I hope!) The Buenos Airies gig is being broadcast on internet radio, so hopefully someone over there will be able to cap that and share... :) |
| Chief Mouse 21.09.2015 03:09 |
brians wig wrote: (damn shame because I prefer interlaced video over de-interlaced anyday).But why? Do you actually prefer to watch videos with horizontal lines? Or you have a CRT monitor / TV? When I watch stuff on my PC those interlace lines are just distracting. They don't add anything to the picture. But if you have a CRT screen then I suppose you don't even see them. Each time I watch something I have to deinterlace it with VLC real-time which is not the best quality option. I rather deinterlace it before hand in Avisynth with a plugin like QTGMC(). I assume you might prefer the smoother picture (re, 25 fps interlaced can be deinterlaced to 50 fps progressive (thus twice as smooth motion) which means NO information lost as there are 2 fields per 1 frame). |
| queenside 21.09.2015 03:32 |
is this version better than the pirate bay 5,6 gb version? i'm downloading both, that 16 gb version is too big for me cos i like to burn stuff on dvds so 8gb is the biggest file i can get. |
| brians wig 21.09.2015 04:13 |
Chief Mouse wrote:brians wig wrote: (damn shame because I prefer interlaced video over de-interlaced anyday).But why? Do you actually prefer to watch videos with horizontal lines? Or you have a CRT monitor / TV? When I watch stuff on my PC those interlace lines are just distracting. They don't add anything to the picture. But if you have a CRT screen then I suppose you don't even see them. Each time I watch something I have to deinterlace it with VLC real-time which is not the best quality option. I rather deinterlace it before hand in Avisynth with a plugin like QTGMC(). I assume you might prefer the smoother picture (re, 25 fps interlaced can be deinterlaced to 50 fps progressive (thus twice as smooth motion) which means NO information lost as there are 2 fields per 1 frame). |
| brians wig 21.09.2015 04:21 |
Well bugger me. I wrote a lengthy piece explaining why I like interlaced pictures and the damn thing didn't get included in my reply above. I'm not typing all that out again, but in a nutshell: I watch stuff on a TV screen and having been brought up watching interlaced TV with it's gorgeous "video" look, I can't stand TV material that now looks like it's been shot on film. Even more, I have this OCD that if something was shot on video, THAT'S how I want to watch it. I like to feel like I'm there were the action is, and deinterlaced/film pictures don't allow that. Just have a look round wherever you are now. What do you see? Do your eyes show you an image that looks like it's been shot on video or film? Thought so. That fluid video look is more natural than the filmic look. I like to watch 'natural' looking TV shows and videos and that's why I always clamour for an interlaced picture. |
| Chief Mouse 21.09.2015 06:00 |
I get you. Basically you prefer fluidity. And this CAN be done with deinterlacing. 1 frame has 2 fields which means you can make 25 fps interlaced to 50 fps progressive which is what you see on your TV screen. The difference is that it is also that way on my PC monitor then and I don't have to do real-time software deinterlacing with VLC player as I have done it beforehand with higher quality deinterlacer. Your TV essentially does this deinterlacing as well making interlaced picture appear twice as smooth and without lines. At the end we can both watch this 'double FPS' deinterlaced file either on a PC monitor or a TV screen and it would appear the same. So I will always deinterlace my videos and if it's done with the 'double fps' technique then no information is lost and this video can be made back into interlaced format for whatever reason necessary. As for film being 24 fps, I can sacrifice fluidity for the organic and artistic picture film has (and resolution). I personally hate the VHS and video look of the last decades. Nowadays video looks excellent of course, shot with 4K RED cameras and what not. |
| terraj 21.09.2015 08:01 |
brians wig wrote: Terraj. Do you know if this is the actual transmission stream or whether it's been re-encoded to a smaller filesize for 'ease of uploading'?I don't think the file has been transcoded for the sake of uploading, but I have no way to be sure. I still have another possible source coming, and I'll post it if it's any better than this video. :) More than visual artifacts, audio glitches bug me even more. I just started watching this and noticed a small audio glitch during One Vision at 2:10, and my OCD is driving me to want to fix this glitch, but I'll hold out for possible better sources first ;) |
| MackMantilla 21.09.2015 09:06 |
Thanks a lot for sharing this version :) |
| terraj 21.09.2015 12:47 |
I decided to try to fix the audio glitch during One Vision as I think it's the only glitch that I could hear after listening through the whole video. I'm not going to reupload the 6GB file, but the fix is an easy one (and thankfully seamless listening through my headphones). If you have VideoRedo, please download the attached Project File. Steps: 1) Open the Project File and you should be prompted to load the video from the torrent 2) Save the TS as a new file. This should trim off 4 extra frames of audio/video (frames #3927-3930, or 2:11.01-2:11.04) that somehow was repeated. Once you do that the audio glitch should be removed. This trimming is almost lossless since VideoRedo supports frame accurate cutting by reencoding only a few frames at the cut point, and not the whole video. ETA: Please refer to my post below for the actual project file. This attachment doesn't work since the forum doesn't allow this file type. |
| bootLuca 21.09.2015 13:19 |
I'm trying with the trial version of VideoRedo, but it seems that the attached file is empty... probably it's not possible to attach that file type (as well as FLAC) |
| terraj 21.09.2015 13:25 |
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| terraj 21.09.2015 13:27 |
I zipped the project file. Hope this works (wish the forum would warn me what type of mime types it supports) |
| bootLuca 21.09.2015 13:46 |
Yes, it works, but unfortunately the trial version truncates the output file to 15 minutes... |
| Chief Mouse 21.09.2015 13:49 |
bootLuca wrote: Yes, it works, but unfortunately the trial version truncates the output file to 15 minutes... https://thepiratebay.vg/search/videoredo/0/99/0 . |
| bootLuca 21.09.2015 14:02 |
is everything correct? TS Video packets: 31620245 TS Audio packets: 4653718 TS PSI packets: 150140 TS Null packets: 0 TS MUX Rate (Mbps): 19.20000 Video output frames: 226937 Audio output frames: 867642 Processing time (secs): 181 Processed frames/sec: 1253.25 Actual Video Bitrate: 6.12 Mbps |
| queenside 21.09.2015 15:33 |
is this the best version of these 3 versions here? i mean 16 gb version is problably the best picture wise but it's said that it has glitches, any glitches in this version? and is it better than pirate bay 5,6 gb version? |
| brians wig 21.09.2015 15:41 |
Actually, the 16gb is only marginally better I think than this one. Now that I've compared them both on my TV set, there's still plenty of artefacting in the 16gb version. In the opening slow zoom to the stage, if you look at the blue lights between the stage and the orange tower on the left of the screen, the 16gb version looks perfect whilst the 6.8 version has noticible artefacting, BUT once the concert has started, there's plenty of artefacting on both to the degree that one seems little better than the other. |
| popy 21.09.2015 17:25 |
I haven't downloaded yet, but i believe the file is untoched and the source is digital terrestrial television. Normally when recording from DTT the file is in .ts format. |
| queenside 22.09.2015 02:32 |
brians wig wrote: Actually, the 16gb is only marginally better I think than this one. Now that I've compared them both on my TV set, there's still plenty of artefacting in the 16gb version. In the opening slow zoom to the stage, if you look at the blue lights between the stage and the orange tower on the left of the screen, the 16gb version looks perfect whilst the 6.8 version has noticible artefacting, BUT once the concert has started, there's plenty of artefacting on both to the degree that one seems little better than the other.thanks for your answer. how about glitches? are they the same in both versions? |
| brians wig 22.09.2015 03:14 |
popy wrote: I haven't downloaded yet, but i believe the file is untoched and the source is digital terrestrial television. Normally when recording from DTT the file is in .ts format.Well a ts file is generally a transmission stream, but when you're transoding a ts stream down to a smaller size you can still keep the .ts tag on the end. I asked because the file size is smaller than I would have expected for a 2 hour concert, but then I'm basing that on UK file sizes for similar events which are nearly twice as much. It may simply be that both versions do come from two different broadcasting sources. |
| brians wig 22.09.2015 03:18 |
Queenside. The smaller 6.8 (?)gb version does NOT have 15 seconds of black in it during "Somebody To Love" like the 16gb version does, so that's a bonus. As for audio glitches I can't say. I watched it live via the webstream and that had about 4x millisecond audio dropouts, and as such I don't really need to watch it again in a hurry. I've still got the Motley Crue set to watch and also Aerosmiths new Bluray which I've had for a couple of weeks now and not found time for! I'm sure someone will know, but I wouldn't let the glitches bother you. |
| queenside 22.09.2015 04:35 |
thank you. |
| terraj 22.09.2015 06:26 |
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| terraj 23.09.2015 07:49 |
There is a new video source for Rock in Rio, which is almost BluRay quality visually (audio isn't as good as the one I shared here though). Unfortunately, this was not a live broadcast but an edited one so the channel didn't air all songs. The good news is, I think I can merge the videos from the rebroadcast losslessly via with this 6GB version (I've done a test and it works). Will share whenever I'm done with this project. |
| fertini 23.09.2015 10:07 |
has anyone prepared an unoficial dvd cover for it ?? thank you |
| mric! 23.09.2015 14:31 |
Thank you! |
| brians wig 23.09.2015 16:47 |
terraj wrote: There is a new video source for Rock in Rio, which is almost BluRay quality visually (audio isn't as good as the one I shared here though). Unfortunately, this was not a live broadcast but an edited one so the channel didn't air all songs. The good news is, I think I can merge the videos from the rebroadcast losslessly via with this 6GB version (I've done a test and it works). Will share whenever I'm done with this project.That would be great, thanks :) Is this new source available to the rest of us anywhere? |
| terraj 24.09.2015 09:26 |
brians wig wrote: That would be great, thanks :) Is this new source available to the rest of us anywhere?You can find the 7 files here by celobrazil (registration required). I've finished my lossless edit based on these files, but I think the capper might be posting more eventually, so thought I might wait before sharing my edit. I saw that Save Me (YouTube version here), and I think Under Pressure was also broadcast, but he hasn't shared it yet (and he's going to be away for the next 2 weeks I think). If there's enough interest I'll share my edit here (currently 9GB) |
| pittrek 24.09.2015 11:49 |
Yeah, an "ultimate" version containing the best video sources (including the soundcheck & the fireworks) in an mkv file with correct chapters would be PERFECT :) |
| brians wig 24.09.2015 14:27 |
Thanks for the 7 files link. If there's more to come and you're going to do some faffing (!), it may be worth waiting to see what you come up with as you obviously have your hands on the pulse... Can anyone record the Buenos Airies concert from radio please? I have no idea which radio station it is other than it's an internet one. Thanks |
| Ken8 26.09.2015 21:07 |
This is the one to get, the 16gig version is full of glitches and this one has great 5.1 audio |
| terraj 30.09.2015 10:00 |
Just added lineage to this source. I just discovered this same file has been shared on The Trader's Den (same MD5 hash) Source: Multishow HD Lineage: Local cable TV operator > Receiver > PC HD > TMPGEnc MPEG Smart Rendering 4 (cutting) Just noticed that the Japanese bootleggers have already begun to sell the Bluray. Can't find any screenshots, not sure if it's watermarked. Is anyone willing to bite the bullet to buy? ;) link ETA: oops, the description says that it's a pro-shot TV broadcast, so maybe it has the watermarks. |
| Marknow 30.09.2015 13:06 |
I would just like to add that had I been directing on the night the live camera angles would have been far superior! Far superior I say!!!! |
| terraj 30.09.2015 13:40 |
Marknow wrote: I would just like to add that had I been directing on the night the live camera angles would have been far superior! Far superior I say!!!!No doubt about that ;) |
| Marknow 30.09.2015 14:08 |
terraj wrote:Marknow wrote: I would just like to add that had I been directing on the night the live camera angles would have been far superior! Far superior I say!!!!No doubt about that ;) :P |