Bad Seed 13.05.2015 09:44 |
Should be interesting/embarrassing |
Costa86 13.05.2015 10:41 |
Freddie was an immigrant. Had him and his family never moved to the UK, we'd never have Queen. |
noorie 13.05.2015 11:20 |
I tried to look up the timing of the interview. Could not find it. However, I found this: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/02/04/brian-may-hair-politicians_n_6613400.html |
mooghead 13.05.2015 15:27 |
link |
Mevans 13.05.2015 16:21 |
22:45 BST BBC1 |
brENsKi 13.05.2015 16:22 |
Costa86 wrote: Freddie was an immigrant. Had him and his family never moved to the UK, we'd never have Queen.strictly speaking you're incorrect. freddie was not an immigrant. Freddie was born in Zanzibar, which at the time of his birth was a British Protectorate - which meant that the British Crown/Government had ultimate power and jurisdiction |
Costa86 13.05.2015 17:58 |
^ Yeah, didn't think of that. The concept stands though. |
musicland munich 13.05.2015 19:07 |
Is it that "Ukip" dude, if so isn't he married with a german wife ? |
Bad Seed 14.05.2015 02:11 |
Costa86 wrote: Freddie was an immigrant. Had him and his family never moved to the UK, we'd never have Queen.And what does this have to do with Brian May being on Question Time? |
Martin Packer 14.05.2015 02:12 |
Didn't NME once do a story about what would happen to the music industry if so-called immigrants were all forced to leave? I think it was around 1977/8. |
master marathon runner 14.05.2015 02:36 |
/Twas '78. - with the hilarious headline: "Freddie Mercury deported" What would happen if the likes of the National Front ever got a powerbase. Complete with a picture of Fred in black leotard. I still get the odd twinge in my neck off the whiplash injury I sustained when I initially saw it on a news stand. |
Costa86 14.05.2015 03:56 |
Bad Seed wrote:Excuse me? Is Brian May going to be on Question Time on his own, singing songs and playing his guitar? As far as I know, Nigel Farage, anti-immigration proponent extraordinaire, is going to be there too. So that might give you a hint to why I think Freddie having been an immigrant has some relation to Farage's ideas, and thus to the programme, because of Farage being on it in his capacity as a politician.Costa86 wrote: Freddie was an immigrant. Had him and his family never moved to the UK, we'd never have Queen.And what does this have to do with Brian May being on Question Time? |
Bad Seed 14.05.2015 05:45 |
Costa86 wrote:I just find it interesting how as soon as Nigel Farage is mentioned people instantly jump onto his stance on immigration. Farage is not an 'anti-immigration proponent extraordinaire', he simply wants a system which stops people taking the piss. Would you call Australia, an anti immigration country?Bad Seed wrote:Excuse me? Is Brian May going to be on Question Time on his own, singing songs and playing his guitar? As far as I know, Nigel Farage, anti-immigration proponent extraordinaire, is going to be there too. So that might give you a hint to why I think Freddie having been an immigrant has some relation to Farage's ideas, and thus to the programme, because of Farage being on it in his capacity as a politician.Costa86 wrote: Freddie was an immigrant. Had him and his family never moved to the UK, we'd never have Queen.And what does this have to do with Brian May being on Question Time? |
master marathon runner 14.05.2015 07:38 |
Spot on sir. /. \ |
AlbaNo1 14.05.2015 14:37 |
I will watch with interest. Despite his much vaunted intelligence, I except general vague good guy liberalism from Brian with nothing too original to offer, |
paulosham 14.05.2015 15:32 |
For those outside the UK you can watch it live here. link |
brENsKi 14.05.2015 16:24 |
Costa86 wrote: Excuse me? Is Brian May going to be on Question Time on his own, singing songs and playing his guitar? As far as I know, Nigel Farage, anti-immigration proponent extraordinaire, is going to be there too. So that might give you a hint to why I think Freddie having been an immigrant has some relation to Farage's ideas, and thus to the programme, because of Farage being on it in his capacity as a politician.stop saying Freddie was an immigrant - he wasn't. Any British Citizen or Citizen of a British Protectorate had the right to live/work anywhere considered either British or British protectorate. |
oligneisti 14.05.2015 16:31 |
Bad Seed wrote:Yes, from all I've heard and seen, Australia is an "anti immigration country".Costa86 wrote:I just find it interesting how as soon as Nigel Farage is mentioned people instantly jump onto his stance on immigration. Farage is not an 'anti-immigration proponent extraordinaire', he simply wants a system which stops people taking the piss. Would you call Australia, an anti immigration country?Bad Seed wrote:Excuse me? Is Brian May going to be on Question Time on his own, singing songs and playing his guitar? As far as I know, Nigel Farage, anti-immigration proponent extraordinaire, is going to be there too. So that might give you a hint to why I think Freddie having been an immigrant has some relation to Farage's ideas, and thus to the programme, because of Farage being on it in his capacity as a politician.Costa86 wrote: Freddie was an immigrant. Had him and his family never moved to the UK, we'd never have Queen.And what does this have to do with Brian May being on Question Time? |
The King Of Rhye 14.05.2015 19:42 |
noorie wrote: I tried to look up the timing of the interview. Could not find it. However, I found this: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/02/04/brian-may-hair-politicians_n_6613400.htmlLove the pic of the badger.......and the headline of the (now outdated I guess!) related story: Brian May May Stand For Parliament In May I hope they weren't disMayed when he didn't......... (and by the way, why do people in the US "run" for office, but people in the UK "stand"?) |
tomchristie22 14.05.2015 23:53 |
Bad Seed wrote: Would you call Australia, an anti immigration country?Sadly, I probably would. |
kosimodo 15.05.2015 01:41 |
The Bulsaras fled Zanzibar due to Muslim violence.. Freddie would be a refugee in these days terms. |
Bad Seed 15.05.2015 02:41 |
tomchristie22 wrote:Would you? I have quite a number of old school friends and work colleagues who have moved and settled there over the last few years. Could be over there myself without issue if I wanted to be. Australia are more than happy to let the right people in.Bad Seed wrote: Would you call Australia, an anti immigration country?Sadly, I probably would. Regarding QT, I thought Brian came across quite well. |
Togg 15.05.2015 02:51 |
Brian did a good job highlighting issues MP's want to keep under the carpet. he looks very worried at times but I felt he came across as thoughtful and balanced |
brENsKi 15.05.2015 07:49 |
kosimodo wrote: The Bulsaras fled Zanzibar due to Muslim violence.. Freddie would be a refugee in these days terms. not when moving from one British Protectorate to Britain or any other British Protectorate. A refugee is someone who seeks asylum in a foreign country. Freddie's family already had the right to come to Britain or any of it's protectorates to live/work. The religious situation did not change their rights to do so. |
Vocal harmony 15.05.2015 08:02 |
^^^^^ true, but I also think that much of the media in the 60's and 70's led sections of the UK population to believe that many of the people who came to the country from India and similar regions were doing so as a means of escape but failing to report that because of the UK's international standing at the time they were within their rights to seek free entry. |
brENsKi 15.05.2015 08:52 |
thanks VH for confirming my point. |
scottmax 15.05.2015 08:59 |
I too thought Brian handled himself pretty well. He was constantly shouted down the the Labour and Conservative guys but then what do you expect..... And although I don't agree with everything Farrage says, a lot of it does make sense |
brENsKi 15.05.2015 09:04 |
Farage's problem is you make as much sense as you like - but if you speak an equal amount of "bonkers" people only remember the bonkers |
discosucks 15.05.2015 15:51 |
tomchristie22 wrote:Even though 28% of the population was born overseas?Bad Seed wrote: Would you call Australia, an anti immigration country?Sadly, I probably would. Even though Sydney is about 10% Asian? |
tomchristie22 15.05.2015 19:30 |
discosucks wrote:In the present, with our government's outright rejection of the basic human rights of asylum seekers, absolutely. It's made all the worse that all of us came from elsewhere in not too distant history, yet still so many don't seem to care about what refugees face at the moment.tomchristie22 wrote:Even though 28% of the population was born overseas? Even though Sydney is about 10% Asian?Bad Seed wrote: Would you call Australia, an anti immigration country?Sadly, I probably would. |
thomasquinn 32989 18.05.2015 06:44 |
discosucks wrote:tomchristie22 wrote:Even though 28% of the population was born overseas? Even though Sydney is about 10% Asian?Bad Seed wrote: Would you call Australia, an anti immigration country?Sadly, I probably would. That's a stupid argument. The US has one of the most racially diverse populations in the world, and it is also a country whose white population is among the most racist in the world - same argument, same fallacy. Australia is an anti-immigration country, it wasn't always like that, but it is today. It is, sadly, also a very racist country. |
thomasquinn 32989 18.05.2015 06:47 |
kosimodo wrote: The Bulsaras fled Zanzibar due to Muslim violence.. Freddie would be a refugee in these days terms. That is oversimplified on both counts. Let's start with the second: you're not a refugee unless you file for refugee status. If you have to flee but don't file for refugee status, e.g. you repatriate or become a 'regular' immigrant, you're not a refugee even though you've fled the country. The Bulsaras didn't flee Zanzibar due to "Muslim violence", but due to the anti-British/anti-Colonial (the two can't really be distinguished with regards to the period in question) atmosphere and Freddie's father's position as a government worker. |
splicksplack 18.05.2015 09:32 |
Martin Packer wrote: Didn't NME once do a story about what would happen to the music industry if so-called immigrants were all forced to leave? I think it was around 1977/8.It was in Sounds. |
CPL593h 19.05.2015 04:35 |
To get things back to topic: is there a way to view the show online somewhere (I'm outside the UK)? If not, can somebody who recorded it upload it to mega or something? I'd like to see how Bri did, even if I'm not very knowledgeable in UK politics (except for the badger cull, which is well documented in Queen fan circles). |