ggo1 30.04.2015 12:37 |
The Elaine Paige Queen album topic has drifted off onto the Freddie Tribute and I had things to say about that, that were so far off topic I started this one. I preface this with the fact that I was at the concert, and it was wonderful. I cried my eyes out a few times with both joy and sadness. I personally believe the way the Tribute concert ended up was not the way Roger, John and Brian initially intended. At least not in terms of the artists who played. Many years ago, Fish (he from Marillion) mentioned on a Q&A that he had discussions with Brian about playing at the concert and that Brian was very much up for it. But later, Fish said that TV had taken it over (He may have said US TV) and they were going for big names rather than people who knew the band. He also said that if he had played, the song he would have sung was Liar. (A surprising choice I thought, I remember the answer because it was my question). Now it is entirely possible that Brian was just being nice and amiable with Fish and letting management deal with the issue of letting him down gently, but given the number of artists who played with no Queen or Freddie connection, I am tempted to believe there is some truth in the statement. Brian stated in his soapbox fairly recently that he admires Zucchero, but also let slip that he never met him before the tribute show. Lisa Stansfield's duet with George Michael on Days of Our Lives may be the best version of the song out there, but there is no Queen connection, she was a huge name at the time though. Wayne Sleep and Montserat Caballe have both said they were disappointed not to take part in the final concert and it seems obvious to me that those trying to do this for Freddies Memory, would have taken those two over a Metallica set 100% of the time. Maybe the price of TV coverage was the dismissal of lesser names or just a necessity to stick to big rock names, but I would be interested to know if others have any info to add that would help identify just what the selection process was. It did seem a little random at times and I wonder just how much control Brian, Roger and John had in the end. (At least with regards to who performed) |
allanqueen 30.04.2015 15:00 |
Hi everyone. Excellent post there gg01. Personally speaking.I think it would have been a nice touch if Aretha Franklin had appeared and did a version of "Somebody To Love, as great as George Micheal's performance. I never quite understood Guns 'n Roses and Spinal Tap's inclusion - especially the latter. The 'charity show big guns' seem to have been missing - Phil Collins, Paul McCartney, Status Quo etc. It would have been great to have had Iron Maiden, Deep Purple, Cliff Richard, Duran Duran and Rod Stewart. |
mooghead 30.04.2015 15:19 |
I dont like the fact people say that it was a 'Queen' tribute rather than a 'Freddie' tribute, of course it was!!! How many of those who performed ever quoted Freddie as an influence rather than Queen? There were a few acts there who were there just coz they happened to be big at the time (Seal, Lisa Stansfield, Extreme.. etc...) As for the above post, can you imagine what a fucking flop on you would get if Cliff Richard came on (who has a tenuous Queen connection)? They played it pretty right in my opinion. |
ggo1 30.04.2015 15:46 |
mooghead wrote: As for the above post, can you imagine what a fucking flop on you would get if Cliff Richard came on (who has a tenuous Queen connection)? They played it pretty right in my opinion.My post wasn't about whether it was right or not, it was more about how the acts that did play were chosen, and how much control he band had. I believe that some were there because the band wanted them to be there (Geldof, Mott The Hoople, Liza Minelli) and others were likely hoisted on them by tv or record company. (Lisa Stansfield and Seal for example) |
AlbaNo1 30.04.2015 15:48 |
Ian Hunter was a great inclusion. Proper history there! All the rock bands were not only big at the time (and still big names bar Extreme), but also bona fide Queen fans esp Axl Rose. Stansfield, Seal and Zucherro were pretty poor. But Liza Minnelli was a quirky choice even though she didnt exactly deliver musically. All in all a mixed bag. Typical Queen. |
cmsdrums 30.04.2015 17:14 |
Great post. I hadn't realised that there were a few acts that would be deserving of a slot but that we're ruled out. I hadn't heard the Fish story either. You make a good point of the tv broadcast perhaps taking some precedent over the band's wishes; I suppose they wanted the greatest possible audience to raise the issue of AIDS awareness, and having bigger names would help that. Equally you'd like to think that such a huge event as a tribute to Freddie, the first really massive world star to die of AIDS, would have pulled the viewers in anyway regardless of the line up (especially as the line up was totally secret, pre Internet, and no one knew who was playing). I recall a big 'The Sun' newspaper two page spread shortly before the gig (maybe in the week leading up to it?) featuring a Gary Glitter interview where he 'blabbed' that he was going to be singing 'Crazy Little Thing...', and also leaking some of the show line up and format......if he was originally in the line up he was soon dropped as a result of that. I can definitely imagine that Stansfield, Zucchero and Metallica were there as big names of the time, but equally Extreme absolutely belonged there as huge fans of Queen/Freddie, Iommi was Brian's 'crutch' on rhythm guitar, Bowie was a natural choice, Daltrey and Plant as heroes/role models of Freddie, Mott due to the Queen early days, and Liza was genuinely one of Freddie's heroes too. All in all the bill was pretty well balanced towards Freddie/Queen, whilst also considering the global audience. Afraid I don't have any more info on other possible acts, but I dk recall running into Wembley on the day and being intrigued on seeing the line up for the first time on the t shirts, and wondering how it would all pan out!! |
scottmax 30.04.2015 18:04 |
A little off topic....was Roger actually going to sing A Kind of Magic or is that bullshit? |
intimate rush 01.05.2015 00:28 |
No. Chris Tompson was meant to sing AKOM but it was dropped last minute because the shoe was running late. I bet he was gutted. |
intimate rush 01.05.2015 00:29 |
*Thompson |
dysan 01.05.2015 01:39 |
The show was very of it's time! The Bowie bit was interesting, as not only was that the first time he'd sung Under Pressure live, but also the first time he'd done Heroes since his 'retirement' of old songs in 1990. ATYD hadn't been done live by him since 1974 (ok fair enough he only added sax and BVs on that). All I really remember is that Guns N Roses and Elton John had a tiff - Axl had made some homophobic remarks which didn't sit right with the vibe of the day so I think Elton refused to play if they did. Maybe just hype to make their duet more triumphant? I dunno. Also, Bowie said some bad things about a 'cunt' on the day which ruined his enjoyment. Conjecture says it was either Elton or Axl. I don't think it was ever fully explain. Interestingly, Ronson died 22 years ago on 29th April so this thread is timely. |
dysan 01.05.2015 01:45 |
Actually, it would've been a nice gesture to have added the version of All The Young Dudes from that night to GH3 - it was release on Ronson's posthumous Heaven And Hull album. Certainly would've expanded the Queen legacy nicely and avoided the unnecessary duplication of tracks on the Platinum collection (AOBTD immediately springs to mind.... |
master marathon runner 01.05.2015 02:32 |
Aye, god bless Mick, an immensely talented and classically trained musician. |
The King Of Rhye 01.05.2015 02:38 |
I think I remember reading somewhere that Eric Clapton had been a rumor.....(great musician obviously, but somehow I just cant imagine him doing any Queen song...lol) |
dysan 01.05.2015 03:03 |
A shame it wasn't a year later - might've had some of the talent from the fast forming Britpop lot. Suede doing Fairy Feller would've been good. |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 01.05.2015 06:48 |
About Lisa Stansfield, I believe she does has a "Queen"connection. If I am not mistaken : she was a singing waiteres and Freddie was at her working place and impressed by her voice. He took care she got a record deal. In the linear notes of 5live she states : Thanks to Freddie otherwise I still would have been a waiteres. |
cmsdrums 01.05.2015 07:14 |
Interesting about Stansfield; I'd just assumed the 'waitress' but was that she was inspired by him but didn't realise the direct involvement. I don't think there was any bad blood between Elton and Axl - the press tried to hype it that way because of a G n R song that contained the word 'faggot', but as far as I knowvthere was no issue; Axl had always stated that both Freddie and Elton were huge influences on him musically. Elton also went on to guest with G n R on 'November Rain' at the MTV Awards soon after. |
pittrek 01.05.2015 07:37 |
I've been always wondering why Klaus Meine and Rudolf Schenker joined the stage for ONLY Champions and nothing else. I'd expect a Scorpions set at the beginning or Klaus singing a song with B/R/J |
ggo1 01.05.2015 08:22 |
pittrek wrote: I've been always wondering why Klaus Meine and Rudolf Schenker joined the stage for ONLY Champions and nothing else. I'd expect a Scorpions set at the beginning or Klaus singing a song with B/R/JThat's a good point, I forgot that. They werent on the tshirts or programme, so presumably there weren't plans for them. Maybe they were just big fans and showed up on the day rather like Cat Stevens did at Live Aid. (Though he left before the finale I think). |
cmsdrums 01.05.2015 08:45 |
ggo1 wrote:I magine the same as Billy Squier (although we know his connection to Freddie) - they just wanted to be there and would have wangled a general invitationpittrek wrote: I've been always wondering why Klaus Meine and Rudolf Schenker joined the stage for ONLY Champions and nothing else. I'd expect a Scorpions set at the beginning or Klaus singing a song with B/R/JThat's a good point, I forgot that. They werent on the tshirts or programme, so presumably there weren't plans for them. Maybe they were just big fans and showed up on the day rather like Cat Stevens did at Live Aid. (Though he left before the finale I think). |
Vocal harmony 01.05.2015 10:17 |
Scorpions were not on the bill but were asked to attend in case another artist dropped out at the last minute. A number of acts wanted to play but didn't make the short list. They did attend one rehearsal though I don't know what song they performed. |
winterspelt 01.05.2015 11:25 |
According to some reports of the time, Axl Rose was a real asshole who didnt interacted with any other musician except Queen and he didnt even appeared at rehearsals at all (except for the Queen songs) and he was the only one who requested a proper dressing room and during the concert he stayed alone in there and had the door closed. It seems that he just left the dressing room to listen All the Young Dudes and as soon as the song was over he returned to his dressing room. Also I read in a Kerrang! magazine that both Schenker and Meine had a tendency to appear as guest (just as guests not as a part of the bill) everywhere, if Im not mistaken it was the concert report written by Pippa Lang. I was a small kid at the time but I read that magazine a thousand times at the time, so I think Im not mistaken at all. |
antiden 01.05.2015 12:10 |
Rod Stewart, Mick Jagger, Dave Clark, Cliff Richard, Phil Collins, Status Quo, Montserrat Caballe - all these big names with a certain connection to Freddie & Queen could have performed at the FM Tribute concert. I wonder, if those artists were ever contacted with a proposal to participate in the event? Also I think that Scorpions, Iron Maiden, Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, Prince, Madonna and even MJ could have been a good choice for this occasion. P.S. I heard a rumor, that Deacon's participation at the FM Tribute concert was his last minute decision. Neil Murray was initially supposed to play bass. Does anybody know if it's true? |
oligneisti 01.05.2015 14:30 |
Dunno about that but I always love the applause when JD starts to speak. |
people on streets 01.05.2015 15:24 |
who played, who didn't, who cares? I don't. |
The Real Wizard 01.05.2015 18:58 |
antiden wrote: I heard a rumor, that Deacon's participation at the FM Tribute concert was his last minute decision. Neil Murray was initially supposed to play bass. Does anybody know if it's true?Highly doubtful, since he's in the rehearsal footage. Considering how extensively Queen had previously rehearsed for shows, one can only imagine how much rehearsal was required for a show with 20 guest artists. |
The Real Wizard 01.05.2015 18:59 |
people on streets wrote: who played, who didn't, who cares? I don't.Then why post in the thread if you're not going to add anything constructive to it? That would be like writing to your cable provider each time you aren't happy with what you see while channel flipping. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 01.05.2015 19:04 |
Great post. Scorpions was asked to be, but they were on tour and could't rehersal (as U2), so they were them only as guest, not playing. I agree, some bands were because of the industry, etc....I mean, Metallica had 0 connection with Freddie, but, they won a grammy with Stone Cold Crazy, and their lawyer is Peter Paterno, the first editor in chief of Hollywood Records. Zucchero...it was like...¿?¿?¿? Why they didnt play Another one bites the dust for example? There are so many questions...Axl was an ashole, and even, if Axl wouldnt appear, it was ready Gary Cherone to sang the Axl parts, said by Gary Cherone. Is only my subjetive opinion, but I think it was more a tribute to Queen as a band, than to Freddie. As I said, I think Peter Straker could have being a chorus artist. Also, I can understand both points. Freddie loved Led Zeppelin, Liza, Elton, George Michael solo stuff...Also I can understand the rest wanted to include his favorite artists at the moment, like Guns' N Roses. I would love to watch Trent Reznor, a hugh fan of Queen, but not a big star at the time. I would like to know who artists said no, and we never will now. |
people on streets 01.05.2015 19:35 |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! wrote: About Lisa Stansfield, I believe she does has a "Queen"connection. If I am not mistaken : she was a singing waiteres and Freddie was at her working place and impressed by her voice. He took care she got a record deal. In the linear notes of 5live she states : Thanks to Freddie otherwise I still would have been a waiteres.Funny how people make things up. That's George thanking Freddie and Lisa (again). It's a George Michael release and the liner notes are his thank yous. Hence the word "waiter" instead of waitress and the ps. thanks again, Lisa. It's George thanking Lisa again. link Lisa began her career after winning a TV show in 1980. link In this article from Thursday 22 April 1993 it's mentioned as well that it is George who says thanks to Freddie for saving him from being a waiter. George was inspired by Freddie to sing, so he did that instead of waiting tables or some other silly job. link |
people on streets 01.05.2015 19:50 |
Hopefully Bob finds my post constructive enough. LOL. And hey, TV is for tossers. Especially cable TV! |
matt z 01.05.2015 20:53 |
Does a tosser toss midgets? Whats the true definition of tosser. Ps. It's relevant to this discussion |
soxtalon 01.05.2015 23:04 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Axl was an ashole, and even, if Axl wouldnt appear, it was ready Gary Cherone to sang the Axl parts, said by Gary Cherone.This is true. I read an article about this at the time. Gary was given the choice to sing either Hammer To Fall or One Vision and he went with Hammer. He said that Brian loved Axl but did hold some worries about his unpredictability so pulled Gary aside at rehearsals and asked him to be in the wings in case Axl didn't show, Gary would sing Bo Rhap's hard rock section and WWRY both. Gary said this again at a different interview joking that he briefly considered tying Axl up in his dressing room... |
dysan 02.05.2015 01:54 |
Did any of the bands work again after the concert? |
innuendo73 02.05.2015 02:22 |
Well The Scorpions sing love of my life and we are the champions both live on their live sets. My guess would be love of my life.. |
Rick 02.05.2015 04:47 |
oligneisti wrote: Dunno about that but I always love the applause when JD starts to speak.Amazing, right? I bet he had a couple of drinks beforehand. |
cmsdrums 02.05.2015 07:02 |
soxtalon wrote:Which is ironic when you consider how dreadful his vocal was on 'Hammer...' So much so that on the official VHS and dvd releases it is re-recorded and overdubbed on after. I think he just got a bit too excited at performing live on stage with Queen!!Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Axl was an ashole, and even, if Axl wouldnt appear, it was ready Gary Cherone to sang the Axl parts, said by Gary Cherone.This is true. I read an article about this at the time. Gary was given the choice to sing either Hammer To Fall or One Vision and he went with Hammer. ... |
BETA215 02.05.2015 09:56 |
cmsdrums wrote:soxtalon wrote:Which is ironic when you consider how dreadful his vocal was on 'Hammer...' So much so that on the official VHS and dvd releases it is re-recorded and overdubbed on after. I think he just got a bit too excited at performing live on stage with Queen!!Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Axl was an ashole, and even, if Axl wouldnt appear, it was ready Gary Cherone to sang the Axl parts, said by Gary Cherone.This is true. I read an article about this at the time. Gary was given the choice to sing either Hammer To Fall or One Vision and he went with Hammer. ... Who wouldn't. |
CPL593h 02.05.2015 10:00 |
BETA215 wrote: Who wouldn't.John Deacon. |
last-horizon 42265 02.05.2015 10:58 |
Some tips that come to mind: - Rod Stewart was, at some point, even announced as part of the line up indeed. He appeared along with some of the big names that actually made it in an argentinean TV commercial promoting the show. - We all know about Axl showing up very late at the GNR shows from the time (or even not showing at all), but I did read at the time that he felt a lot of respect for Freddie & Queen, and for that very same reason he always showed up on time both for reharsals and the actual show. It was also reported that several fans protested outside the venue, claiming that GNR should not take part of the show because of the homophobic lyrics in 'One In A Million'. Axl and Elton got on well together, and as another member previously said, EJ joined GNR a few months later for the MTV Awards. Not too long ago, Axl used to perform some piano bars of 'Rocket Man' and 'Someone Saved My Life Tonight' that served as the intro to 'November Rain'. - Chris Thompson was rumoured to sing 'AKOM' as an ackoweledgment from the band for serving as the lead singer during the reharsal. Other rumours assure that it was actually Roger who was going to take the leads on this one, but anyway that slot remained unused for time reasons. - Brian said that the band was not aware of Bowie's prayer and that they knew about it as it was happening. Brian said that it would have been good if they were told / asked about it. - Albeit a few 1991 minor appearences, this was the first big Elton performance since his rehab in 1990 (and the first time that he came up with his new 'hair style' -or whatever you want to call it-). He kept singing 'The Show Must Go On' for most part of this 'The One' 1992 / 1993 tour (standing, very unusual in his concerts), before his final one-off performance with the guys in 1997. - The first bit of 'TYMD' before Joe Elliot comes in, is the very only bit in history where just the three remaining members of Queen performed on stage together (well, with Spikey's lending them a hand on keyboards). |
noorie 02.05.2015 12:11 |
last-horizon 42265 wrote: - Brian said that the band was not aware of Bowie's prayer and that they knew about it as it was happening. Brian said that it would have been good if they were told / asked about it. .I kind of liked David Bowie's little prayer. It seemed to make the concert a little more personal and a little more about some genuine emotion for Freddie's death. I understand this was a rock concert, but it is not as if Bowie started preaching. Just a little bit of heartfelt emotion. Also, very brave of Bowie to dare something like that! |
musicland munich 02.05.2015 13:31 |
Freddie hates Axl Rose / GNR, because of homophobe statements..there is a quote about it somewhere.... Where in gods name was Dionne Warwick ??? Wich was actually Freddie's favorite singer.... wich guides me to the next - not so serious question - What about Paul Rodgers :) ...btw. The scorpions are not a big loss at that event. Yeah I like some of their songs but their version of "Love of my life" isn't too good in my opinion. Sorry Klaus - your voice doesn't suit that song ;) |
Apocalipsis_Darko 02.05.2015 19:06 |
Klaus and Rudolph met Freddie. Ruldolph said he had a party night (girls and alcohol I can imagine) with Roger in Rio de Janeiro. Chris Thompson, there are interviews, not mine only, that he said about the facts posted. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 02.05.2015 19:06 |
Klaus and Rudolph met Freddie. Ruldolph said he had a party night (girls and alcohol I can imagine) with Roger in Rio de Janeiro. Chris Thompson, there are interviews, not mine only, that he said about the facts posted. |
BETA215 02.05.2015 21:13 |
CPL593h wrote:BETA215 wrote: Who wouldn't.John Deacon. I think he is still part of Queen. :P Otherwise, LOL. |
Wiley 03.05.2015 01:07 |
last-horizon 42265 wrote: - The first bit of 'TYMD' before Joe Elliot comes in, is the very only bit in history where just the three remaining members of Queen performed on stage together.The first time I saw the Freddie Tribute I noticed this and I was so excited, thinking they were still a proper band and could play together without guest singers. If Brian could front his band, playing and singing for a full show, why couldn't he do it with Queen? By the way, this was before the guest singers galore of 2000-2004 or the every-fucking-show-streamed-live-on-YouTube of 2014. |
soxtalon 03.05.2015 03:11 |
I remember kind of wishing Joe Elliot and Slash had stayed away from TYMD. It would have been a bit poignant and quite cool if the 3 of them had done TYMD themselves before introducing the singer parade... |
cmsdrums 03.05.2015 04:33 |
last-horizon 42265 wrote: - The first bit of 'TYMD' before Joe Elliot comes in, is the very only bit in history where just the three remaining members of Queen performed on stage together (well, with Spikey's lending them a hand on keyboards). I know John joined Brian and Roger on stage in '88 for. Afam club thing, but presumably there were hoards of other (The Cross etc) on stage too? Interesting bit about Rod Stewart - I wonder why he didn't perform, or even attend, in the end?? I also agree with the comment that Bri, Roger and John should have performed TYMD alone.... |
The Real Wizard 03.05.2015 05:08 |
people on streets wrote: Hopefully Bob finds my post constructive enough. LOL.Ha, indeed .. the Wizard approves ;) |
people on streets 03.05.2015 08:02 |
matt z wrote: Does a tosser toss midgets? Whats the true definition of tosser. Ps. It's relevant to this discussionlink You're welcome. |
people on streets 03.05.2015 08:03 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Lucky me :)people on streets wrote: Hopefully Bob finds my post constructive enough. LOL.Ha, indeed .. the Wizard approves ;) |
BETA215 03.05.2015 12:44 |
people on streets wrote:If the Wizard approves it, you have to be right. (:The Real Wizard wrote:Lucky me :)people on streets wrote: Hopefully Bob finds my post constructive enough. LOL.Ha, indeed .. the Wizard approves ;) |
victorvortex 11.05.2016 02:28 |
I went to the Tribute and I definitely remember reading rumours in the British press that Madonna, Eric Clapton, Phil Collins and Monserrat Caballe were going to play. |
dudeofqueen 11.05.2016 03:02 |
There were rumors all over the place in terms of who was going to play. I think even the usual Led Zeppelin reformation talk was flying around too at the time. It was absolutely SHOCKING that Montserrat was not on the bill. Liz Taylor should have been exorcised from proceedings. Bowie's "prayer" was presumptuous and crass. Spinal Tap were embarrassing. Other than that, the show did it's job; also good that the likes of Clapton, Mcartney and Madonna weren't there as the show would have been all about them as opposed to it being a tribute to Freddie. Daltrey and Iomi were incredible. I remember standing under a gantry when Metallica played their first chord - the pigeons sat up there to the left all shat themselves and flew off, leaving the people standing under them covered in bird shit. |
victorvortex 11.05.2016 05:35 |
The choice of Metallica to open surprised me at the time. I was well into them but I thought they might make a lot of the tv viewers turn off. They were considered very heavy at the time and didn't include any Queen numbers in their set. I'm glad they played though. |
matt z 11.05.2016 09:23 |
dudeofqueen wrote: I remember standing under a gantry when Metallica played their first chord - the pigeons sat up there to the left all shat themselves and flew off, leaving the people standing under them covered in bird shit.This anecdote is hilarious and deserves to be included in any proper book retelling of the concert Only thing I don't get is. ... what's a gantry? |
victorvortex 11.05.2016 10:24 |
Gantry definition : a bridge-like overhead structure with a platform supporting equipment such as a crane, signals, or cameras. |
Vocal harmony 11.05.2016 10:29 |
victorvortex wrote: I went to the Tribute and I definitely remember reading rumours in the British press that Madonna, Eric Clapton, Phil Collins and Monserrat Caballe were going to play.Ah the infamous British press, back then you could reckon on two thirds of what the tabloids printed was utter butt mud! Remember these idiots were the ones who claimed Queen were setting out on a huge world tour for each of the last two Queen albums. That Freddie's ghost had been seen at Wembley during the stage set up the previous week to the concert and that Roger Daltrey was going to join them for a tour in 93 |
flash00. 17.05.2016 17:36 |
At the time I thought Michael Jackson would of payed tribute having been friends with Freddie etc or possibly Jagger even, I'm glad McCartney was not there or Bono the Berk. |
Sunshine 18.05.2016 08:26 |
Does anybody know why Aretha Franklin didn't perform? She was the absolute number one favorite of Freddie to sing Somebody To Love. George Michael did a fab job as well. But still.... |
vonkeil 18.05.2016 12:08 |
A couple of years ago I asked Brian about Madonna's possible participation at the Freddie Tribute and he replied something like "they have actually invited her for a couple of things" and although she apparently was keen to come, then wasn't able for one reason or another. |
The Real Wizard 29.05.2016 13:50 |
An intriguing video I just came across by accident: link Looks like it's the FM tribute rehearsals, and it's Chris Thompson et all running A Kind Of Magic. Or am I somehow a few years late to the party? |
Mr.QueenFan 29.05.2016 14:05 |
The Real Wizard wrote: An intriguing video I just came across by accident: link Looks like it's the FM tribute rehearsals, and it's Chris Thompson et all running A Kind Of Magic. Or am I somehow a few years late to the party?I only recently found out that it was Chris and not Roger who was going to sing AKOM. So i think you're still on time for the party. When they opened the door, is that "Red John" sign? - for "The Mentalist" fans only:-) Is there any more reharsal footage in the hands of collectors? I'm interested to know if anyone ever saw Innuendo at reharsals. |