| Bob Harley 06.04.2015 06:24 |
Hello everybody. I searched almost every topic about Hyde Park '76 here. What did I find? - Something like old, interlaced version, which looks not very good, but it's still really better, than another verison. - CROPPED QTV version with contrast level, which messed it a bit up. - "A Picnic By The Serpentine" - it was cool, but it could be done even better. But I didn't find raw QTV version. Could anybody upload it? Thank you. And here's a little sample of what I did with the first version I wrote here about: link |
| DepeX 06.04.2015 08:33 |
RAW QTV Version [Torrent, don't know about how many seeders are there]: link RAW NO-QTV Version: [With Timecoder but without the QTV logo]: link Let me ask a question: what software are you using to enhance the video? |
| Bob Harley 06.04.2015 10:08 |
Thanks, I'll try this one. I use VirtualDub (edited version, which supports examply VOB format) with some plugins. And Audacity for the audio. |
| Barry Durex 06.04.2015 10:40 |
Didn't antiden share a raw transfer recently? |
| DepeX 06.04.2015 10:54 |
Barry Durex wrote: Didn't antiden share a raw transfer recently?Yeah, that's what I called RAW NO-QTV Version. |
| BETA215 06.04.2015 11:24 |
Bob, answering to the question you made me in YouTube: I only could find 4 years old torrents without seeders. Sorry, I can't help you in this one. :/ But you can make a good version replacing the part in which the time code (non QTV version) is located with the Serpentine video (I think there's a plugin out there to do it). Sorry for my messed thoughts. Maybe if you ask to Chief Mouse (in YouTube and QueenZone) about the thing I'm trying to say you, he say you which plugin you can use. |
| Bob Harley 06.04.2015 11:27 |
I downloaded the first version. I don't really know why the hell did somebody burry 1/3 of the video by setting that contrast level. Carefully improved Hyde Park '76 would be really awesome. Let's just try the second version... |
| Bob Harley 06.04.2015 11:43 |
That second version is the first version I wrote here about. There are awfully floating pixels, I don't even know how it's called. I should make one video from both versions or something like this. |
| BETA215 06.04.2015 12:38 |
Bob Harley wrote: I downloaded the first version. I don't really know why the hell did somebody burry 1/3 of the video by setting that contrast level. Carefully improved Hyde Park '76 would be really awesome. Let's just try the second version...The bad contrast level comes from the source of the VHS. |
| Chief Mouse 06.04.2015 13:06 |
BETA215 wrote: But you can make a good version replacing the part in which the time code (non QTV version) is located with the Serpentine video (I think there's a plugin out there to do it). Sorry for my messed thoughts. Maybe if you ask to Chief Mouse (in YouTube and QueenZone) about the thing I'm trying to say you, he say you which plugin you can use.There is a plugin for removing logos and blurring stuff, that is called DeLogo on Virtualdub. Anyway, it doesn't do what you said. It just blurs out the logo. To do what you explained requires manual masking. |
| Bob Harley 06.04.2015 13:08 |
I don't think so. Look here - link And here - link It's just 240p, but I can see here things, which I couldn't notice at other versions. |
| Bob Harley 06.04.2015 14:54 |
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| Bob Harley 06.04.2015 15:01 |
Sorry for the empty post. It shouldn't be hard to use non QTV version to replace QTV watermark. Just crop it. |
| pittrek 08.04.2015 01:24 |
Bob Harley wrote: Sorry for the empty post. It shouldn't be hard to use non QTV version to replace QTV watermark. Just crop it.It's MUCH harder than that. You would have to have identical frame count - each version I checked had different frames missing. Also each version "moves" differently, has different colours... |
| pittrek 08.04.2015 01:33 |
Which versions exist? 8mm - at least 2 different 8mm films exist multi-cam mix - the DoRo documentaries (Magic Years, Champions of the World) include angles not seen in any other version QTV VHS without logo - comes from the first QTV "broadcast", has no QTV logo, the best copy I've seen is probably antiden's video QTV VHS with logo - comes from different QTV "broadcasts", the best copy is in "private hands", the second best copy was used for Merqry(?)'s compilation, the third best copy was made by brianswig, this one is commonly available - the menu is a static picture of Roger |
| Chief Mouse 08.04.2015 12:11 |
pittrek wrote:Yes, that's true.Bob Harley wrote: Sorry for the empty post. It shouldn't be hard to use non QTV version to replace QTV watermark. Just crop it.It's MUCH harder than that. You would have to have identical frame count - each version I checked had different frames missing. Also each version "moves" differently, has different colours... |
| Bob Harley 10.04.2015 15:56 |
You're right... |
| CESAR BELTRAN M 13.04.2015 01:32 |
Hi this message is for Chief Mouse: I have a copy of Hyde Park video with slightly better quality that the QTV version. Is the best copy I've got in more of 25 years collecting videos. Are you interested in put your pagic in this video? Let me, know to see we can we do. take care Cesar |
| Chief Mouse 13.04.2015 09:27 |
Hi. Is your version any better than the one shared by Antiden? Would you mind providing a video sample cut out without re-compressing (software like Mpeg2Cut2 for example)? Thanks :) |
| Barry Durex 13.04.2015 12:05 |
Yes, please post a sample so we can all see a raw transfer. |
| CESAR BELTRAN M 13.04.2015 20:56 |
hi ok. I'll make a cut from DVD and will share in next few hours |
| CESAR BELTRAN M 14.04.2015 00:48 |
link |
| Barry Durex 14.04.2015 16:40 |
CESAR, that is a nice copy and probably the best I have seen so It would be great if you could share a complete transfer. |
| MackMantilla 15.04.2015 08:27 |
Great copy! César, please share it ;) |
| DepeX 15.04.2015 09:56 |
Yeah, amazing version. I'm quite sure that if you share the whole transfer, Mr Mouse would find interesting from some "remastering". |
| Bob Harley 15.04.2015 10:23 |
This version is the best version ever I've seen. It's bright, no burried informations like every edited version. Raw QTV version can be better, but I haven't seen it yet. Raw file of this video - link - should be the best (video). |
| BETA215 15.04.2015 10:25 |
DepeX wrote: Yeah, amazing version. I'm quite sure that if you share the whole transfer, Mr. Mouse would find interesting for some "magic".Now it's better. (-: |
| BETA215 15.04.2015 10:27 |
Bob Harley wrote: This version is the best version ever I've seen. It's bright, no burried informations like every edited version. Raw QTV version can be better, but I haven't seen it yet. Raw file of this video - link - should be the best (video).Now you know why I spend a lot of more time in QueenZone instead of in YouTube? QueenZone rules! (excepting his code) |
| moonie 15.04.2015 12:11 |
So is this a better version than the one Antiden shared then? |
| DepeX 15.04.2015 12:59 |
BETA215 wrote:Yes, no doubt ;-)DepeX wrote: Yeah, amazing version. I'm quite sure that if you share the whole transfer, Mr. Mouse would find interesting for some "magic".Now it's better. (-: |
| BETA215 15.04.2015 13:33 |
moonie wrote: So is this a better version than the one Antiden shared then?Yes. And please, if somebody is willing to do anything with this vid, remember to stretch it to 5:4 (as with any VHS sourced video). You'll thank me later. |
| BETA215 15.04.2015 14:22 |
Not mine. |
| Bob Harley 15.04.2015 16:04 |
Looks even good, only the audio is poorly edited. Copying tracks and setting small time delay between them is not good. I would add a lot of echo filters. I don't know any better way to make false stereo. Version, which Cesar posted is awesome. It's only a little grainy and the colors should be fixed. Corrected version of this copy should be the best version of every version of every copy! Lol... |
| moonie 15.04.2015 16:09 |
I've done a quick side by side comparison between this and the version that Antiden shared here recently.. The Antiden version is the one on the right.. Maybe I'm missing something, but I think the version on the right looks much better, with better detail and clarity, although the screen grab doesn't do it full justice.. |
| Chief Mouse 15.04.2015 16:09 |
BETA215 wrote:I don't see why we should shrink the frame to 5:4 when it is originally 4:3. 4:3 is a standart ratio, this gig was shot in 4:3 and Cesar's tape is also 4:3. Everything is correct here so why change it?moonie wrote: So is this a better version than the one Antiden shared then?Yes. And please, if somebody is willing to do anything with this vid, remember to stretch it to 5:4 (as with any VHS sourced video). You'll thank me later. "As wih any VHS sourced video" - what do you mean with that? Maybe you're confusing something, 720x576 resolution essentially is 5:4 but it is always presented in 4:3 or 16:9. Same with 720x480 resolution which is essentially 3:2 aspect ratio but also presented in 4:3 or 16:9. If the video in itself looks wrong then it can be fixed with adding borders or cropping where necessary instead of changing the whole aspect ratio of the video stream. But that's another matter and not what I was on about earlier on. Thanks for the sample Cesar :) |
| moonie 15.04.2015 16:54 |
I forgot to say, cheers for sharing the sample Cesar. |
| moonie 16.04.2015 18:23 |
Well.. It's all gone a bit quiet mind.. |
| moonie 16.04.2015 19:54 |
Anyway.. I think a high quality transfer of Antiden's VHS tape is the way to go.. It looks pretty good as it is, so God knows what Chief Mouse could do with it.. It could be spectacular.. I might even get to see it before I die from natural causes at a ripe old age.. A good looking Hyde Park has been my Holy Grail since about 1984.. |
| Chief Mouse 17.04.2015 13:29 |
I compared them closely today. Detail-wise they are almost identical. Antiden's version has more "snow noise" and a bit worse colours than Cesar's version, that's why I think Cesar's version is a tad better. Please share the full thing CESAR BELTRAN M :-) Thanks. |
| moonie 17.04.2015 15:01 |
Fair doos, You certainly know your stuff more than I do.. I look forward to seeing what you do with it, if Cesar shares his version. |
| Barry Durex 18.04.2015 15:28 |
Chief Mouse wrote: I compared them closely today. Detail-wise they are almost identical. Antiden's version has more "snow noise" and a bit worse colours than Cesar's version, that's why I think Cesar's version is a tad better. Please share the full thing CESAR BELTRAN M :-) Thanks.I think you might find that there are no so many ''wobbly bits'' on Cesar's version. For example, in Cesar's sample at 20:44:53 there is no wobble and bar dropping down the screen, but In Antiden's transfer there is. I'm guessing Cesar's would be better throughout, so hopefully he will share the complete raw transfer. |
| Bob Harley 19.04.2015 11:13 |
I call it "floating pixels". They're awful. I hope it will be released officially someday. In 4:3 aspect ratio. They cropped it for some documentaries. |
| Barry Durex 19.04.2015 12:59 |
It's not floating pixels, just something that occurs with VHS recordings on some machines. |
| moonie 22.04.2015 07:08 |
If Cesar doesn't share his version, would you consider working on Antidens at some point Chief Mouse? |
| Chief Mouse 22.04.2015 12:04 |
Not sure. I don't have time for videos lately :P About whether I would do it - it really depends on doing more tests so I can see if I am able to make it look better. Sometimes some videos just don't look that much better, they just look different but are just as bad / good. I usually try to create a definitive version if the video is worth working on and it takes a bit of time :) |
| moonie 23.04.2015 13:04 |
Yeah I can understand that mind. Cheers for the reply. |
| Barry Durex 22.06.2015 08:38 |
moonie wrote: If Cesar doesn't share his version, would you consider working on Antidens at some point Chief Mouse?I've been informed that it's NOT CESAR BELTRAN M's to offer anyway. |
| QueenAllTheWay 23.12.2018 10:03 |
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| Needalight 16.02.2019 16:52 |
updates? |
| MackMantilla 19.02.2019 21:18 |
César Beltrán is now living in the USA, but he has most of his Queen stuff in Perú. He told me that later this year will be back in the country, so he can finally share his transfer. |
| QueenAllTheWay 20.02.2019 16:46 |
Sounds awesome! |
| Needalight 27.02.2019 16:47 |
@Chipsotov Awesome share! |
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