| Bad Seed 13.03.2015 10:59 |
Apologies if this has been mentioned before but after watching the known EC footage last night, I noticed something that I'd never noticed before. I think it's long been acknowledged (by myself at least) that the footage was a live edit which was fed to the screens in the arena and what we see is what we get, i.e. no possibility of a new edit. However, after watching footage of the 2nd night, particularly the stuff DoRo had their hands on, it seems that it's possible all cameras were recording individually. Compare the versions of YTMBA from both nights and you'll see what I mean. Either, on the 2nd night the director decided to put a shift in and done some very nice live editing, or DoRo had the original rushes when putting COTW together. Sorry I can't put a link up at the moment to compare. |
| BETA215 13.03.2015 11:23 |
Bad Seed wrote: [...] I think it's long been acknowledged (by myself at least) that the footage was a live edit which was fed to the screens in the arena and what we see is what we get, i.e. no possibility of a new edit. However, after watching footage of the 2nd night, particularly the stuff DoRo had their hands on, it seems that it's possible all cameras were recording individually. [...] I must say that I think that's a lie (from Queen Productions, not from you). I mean, - for example - before the Rainbow release, they said that Fairy Feller's didn't existed live. Maybe this is a similar lie to hype people when the official release is released/announced. |
| Nitroboy 13.03.2015 11:59 |
I don't think that it's a lie per se, just them not knowing better? :P |
| Bad Seed 13.03.2015 15:38 |
Whether it is a lie or them not knowing any better, at least we know there is a possibility of them having individual feeds from all cameras. Increases the possibility of a release in 2017 no doubt. |
| Hangman_96 13.03.2015 17:25 |
So now every concert will be released properly only on its 40th anniversary? Sigh. |
| BETA215 13.03.2015 20:56 |
^ If that's true: 2015: Hammersmith Odeon w/ Q+AL in Hammersmith 2016: Hyde Park/Knebworth 2017: Earls Court 2018: Munich 2019: Hammersmith (People Of Kampuchea) 2020: ???/The Great Awaited Luxury Box-Set: Queen: The Anthology: Part 1: Singles. 2021: Live In Argentina, South America, etc./Rererererererelease of Wembley 1986 with long lost incredible song rehearsed but never played in great quality. 2022: Rerelease of Live In Japan 1982 (properly remastered and mixed) but also released in USA, South America, Europe... 2023: ???/The Great Awaited Luxury Box-Set: Queen: The Anthology: Part 2: Unreleased Singles 2024: Live In Rio rerelease full w/ rehearsals. |
| rocknrolllover 14.03.2015 03:48 |
BETA215 wrote: ^ If that's true: 2015: Hammersmith Odeon w/ Q+AL in Hammersmith 2016: Hyde Park/Knebworth 2017: Earls Court 2018: Munich 2019: Hammersmith (People Of Kampuchea) 2020: ???/The Great Awaited Luxury Box-Set: Queen: The Anthology: Part 1: Singles. 2021: Live In Argentina, South America, etc./Rererererererelease of Wembley 1986 with long lost incredible song rehearsed but never played in great quality. 2022: Rerelease of Live In Japan 1982 (properly remastered and mixed) but also released in USA, South America, Europe... 2023: ???/The Great Awaited Luxury Box-Set: Queen: The Anthology: Part 2: Unreleased Singles 2024: Live In Rio rerelease full w/ rehearsals.2015 CD1. Queen A Night At the Opera album as part of 40th Anniversary+ CD2. Hammersmith Odeon complete audio concert, 1DVD Hammersmith Odeon. Possible bonus Hyde Park. 2016 A Day At The Races album as part 40th Anniversary. Earls Court. complete second night. bonus best from first night 2017 1CD News Of the World. 1DVD Houston, and Bob Harris documentary |
| JackTorrance 14.03.2015 04:05 |
Bad Seed wrote: Apologies if this has been mentioned before but after watching the known EC footage last night, I noticed something that I'd never noticed before. I think it's long been acknowledged (by myself at least) that the footage was a live edit which was fed to the screens in the arena and what we see is what we get, i.e. no possibility of a new edit. However, after watching footage of the 2nd night, particularly the stuff DoRo had their hands on, it seems that it's possible all cameras were recording individually. Compare the versions of YTMBA from both nights and you'll see what I mean. Either, on the 2nd night the director decided to put a shift in and done some very nice live editing, or DoRo had the original rushes when putting COTW together. Sorry I can't put a link up at the moment to compare.Champions of the world: link First night: link Second night: haven't found it on youtube yet. |
| thomasquinn 32989 14.03.2015 06:22 |
I firmly believe that there is more incompetence than deliberate lying involved. I don't get the impression (based on almost two decades of experience) that Queen Productions are anywhere near as organized as many other major bands - in fact, I get the distinct impression that they're running a thoroughly amateur business, 'archivist' Greg Brooks' uncorrected and repeated sloppiness being a case in point. |
| pittrek 14.03.2015 06:52 |
BETA215 wrote: ^ If that's true: 2015: Hammersmith Odeon w/ Q+AL in Hammersmith 2016: Hyde Park/Knebworth 2017: Earls Court 2018: Munich 2019: Hammersmith (People Of Kampuchea) 2020: ???/The Great Awaited Luxury Box-Set: Queen: The Anthology: Part 1: Singles. 2021: Live In Argentina, South America, etc./Rererererererelease of Wembley 1986 with long lost incredible song rehearsed but never played in great quality. 2022: Rerelease of Live In Japan 1982 (properly remastered and mixed) but also released in USA, South America, Europe... 2023: ???/The Great Awaited Luxury Box-Set: Queen: The Anthology: Part 2: Unreleased Singles 2024: Live In Rio rerelease full w/ rehearsals.2015 - Hammersmith Odeon 75 converted to NTSC and upscaled to HD 2016 - Hyde Park 76 converted to NTSC and upscaled to HD 2017 - Earls Court 77 combined both nights converted to NTSC and upscaled to HD 2018 - Wembley 86 with 10 seconds of previously unseen footage converted to NTSC and upscaled to HD 2019 - a Live Killers box with all the incomplete footage they have from the tour 2020 - Wembley 86 featuring a correctly edited behind the scenes documentary 2021 - Best of South America 81 - merge of usable bits of all shows converted to NTSC and upscaled to HD 2022 - Hot Space boxset - all incomplete footage they have from the tour plus full Milton Keynes converted to NTSC and upscaled to HD 2023 - Wembley 86 with a new cover 2024 - Rainbow 74 upscaled to UHD 2025 - Rock in Rio - merge of both nights converted to NTSC and upscaled to UHD 2026 - Live Magic box featuring all incomplete footage they have from the tour incl. Knebworth 2027 - Houston 77 incl. as many Bob Harris stuff as possible |
| Bad Seed 14.03.2015 07:16 |
JackTorrance wrote. Champions of the world: link First night: link Second night: haven't found it on youtube yet.The champions of the world footage is from the 2nd night. Just look at how it's been properly edited compared to the footage from the 1st night. |
| BETA215 14.03.2015 08:45 |
Here you have all the footage available from the second night: |
| rocknrolllover 21.03.2015 04:31 |
pittrek wrote:2016 - Hyde Park 76 converted to NTSC and upscaled to HD / 2017 - Earls Court 77 combined both nights converted to NTSC and upscaled to HD = as standalone and compilation never, only as a part of new edit Rare Live.BETA215 wrote: ^ If that's true: 2015: Hammersmith Odeon w/ Q+AL in Hammersmith 2016: Hyde Park/Knebworth 2017: Earls Court 2018: Munich 2019: Hammersmith (People Of Kampuchea) 2020: ???/The Great Awaited Luxury Box-Set: Queen: The Anthology: Part 1: Singles. 2021: Live In Argentina, South America, etc./Rererererererelease of Wembley 1986 with long lost incredible song rehearsed but never played in great quality. 2022: Rerelease of Live In Japan 1982 (properly remastered and mixed) but also released in USA, South America, Europe... 2023: ???/The Great Awaited Luxury Box-Set: Queen: The Anthology: Part 2: Unreleased Singles 2024: Live In Rio rerelease full w/ rehearsals.2015 - Hammersmith Odeon 75 converted to NTSC and upscaled to HD 2016 - Hyde Park 76 converted to NTSC and upscaled to HD 2017 - Earls Court 77 combined both nights converted to NTSC and upscaled to HD 2018 - Wembley 86 with 10 seconds of previously unseen footage converted to NTSC and upscaled to HD 2019 - a Live Killers box with all the incomplete footage they have from the tour 2020 - Wembley 86 featuring a correctly edited behind the scenes documentary 2021 - Best of South America 81 - merge of usable bits of all shows converted to NTSC and upscaled to HD 2022 - Hot Space boxset - all incomplete footage they have from the tour plus full Milton Keynes converted to NTSC and upscaled to HD 2023 - Wembley 86 with a new cover 2024 - Rainbow 74 upscaled to UHD 2025 - Rock in Rio - merge of both nights converted to NTSC and upscaled to UHD 2026 - Live Magic box featuring all incomplete footage they have from the tour incl. Knebworth 2027 - Houston 77 incl. as many Bob Harris stuff as possible 2019 - a Live Killers box with all the incomplete footage they have from the tour= GB said not long ago that they have all from live killers tour. |
| Penetration_Guru 23.03.2015 16:03 |
First I've heard of big screens at a Queen show in the 70s |
| The Real Wizard 24.03.2015 10:56 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: First I've heard of big screens at a Queen show in the 70sYup. It's why there are pro shot videos of a lot of bands at the Summit in Houston in the late 70s and early 80s - Aerosmith, The Eagles, Kiss, The Who, Springsteen, and probably Zeppelin too. The bands had a deal with the venue. And fortunately someone had the common sense to press that ever-elusive red button to grab mono board feeds so that we could enjoy the videos all these years later. And to think the place where all this magic was captured is now one of those mega-churches.. |
| Negative Creep 24.03.2015 11:11 |
BETA215 wrote: Here you have all the footage available from the second night:That doesn't sound like a live on the fly mix to me, and yet the piano vocal mix is present and clear. Oof. |
| MackMantilla 24.03.2015 12:57 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Queen played again at The Summit on 1980 and 1982. I would be wonderfull if any of those shows had been recorded too...Penetration_Guru wrote: First I've heard of big screens at a Queen show in the 70sYup. It's why there are pro shot videos of a lot of bands at the Summit in Houston in the late 70s and early 80s - Aerosmith, The Eagles, Kiss, The Who, Springsteen, and probably Zeppelin too. The bands had a deal with the venue. And fortunately someone had the common sense to press that ever-elusive red button to grab mono board feeds so that we could enjoy the videos all these years later. And to think the place where all this magic was captured is now one of those mega-churches.. |
| MackMantilla 24.03.2015 12:58 |
double post |