| discosucks 07.03.2015 22:17 |
A friendly reminder to re-listen to The March of the Black Queen and try to focus more on the piano. I highly recommend if you haven't tried this already. The guitars and vocals are great, but the piano in the background is absolutely amazing, especially the sections at 1:14-1:20 and 4:10-4:22. I really wish I could hear it isolated or a piano cover close to the studio version, although that would be extremely hard to identify the actual notes just by ear. Freddie truly was a genius, there are many hidden delights in his music. |
| BETA215 08.03.2015 01:41 |
Search in the fan mixes forum, the remaster made by C_Matt of Queen II. In one of that sea of comments, is a C_Matt comment attached with TMOTBQ+FHLI+(?). |
| Chief Mouse 08.03.2015 06:22 |
I've always loved 3:51. |
| Bohardy 08.03.2015 11:03 |
discosucks wrote: I really wish I could hear it isolated or a piano cover close to the studio version, although that would be extremely hard to identify the actual notes just by ear. . I'll give it a go later (doing a cover of the studio piano part). Think I've pretty much got it all sussed. |
| dysan 09.03.2015 05:14 |
Would you like to join a band Bohardy? |
| Bohardy 10.03.2015 02:29 |
dysan wrote: Would you like to join a band Bohardy?Depends which band really. I wouldn't want to be in Kiss for example. If anyone's interested, I'm still looking at doing a version of the actual piano parts Fred played on this. I've studied it very closely indeed, and it turns out there are a couple more intricacies then I first thought, and being a perfectionist, I want to get it spot on. So it's coming. |
| ludwigs 10.03.2015 04:04 |
Bohardy wrote: If anyone's interested, I'm still looking at doing a version of the actual piano parts Fred played on this. I've studied it very closely indeed, and it turns out there are a couple more intricacies then I first thought, and being a perfectionist, I want to get it spot on. So it's coming.I for one really look forward to it!! I transcribed the whole song / parts etc and recorded my version in 2004 (along with all the mammoth ones). I am since re-visiting them all and recording them with better gear, knowledge and......just altogether better! All re-recording new versions. The recent HD revisions from Matt have allowed me to hear a few notes in the bass line from this one that weren't noticeable on the original. Same with some of the piano stabs. |
| dysan 10.03.2015 04:54 |
Yeah looking forward to hearing these! I must admit, I learnt the Bo Rhap solos note for note on the guitar and it totally ruined the magic for me, so tread carefully my friends! |
| Estranged 10.03.2015 09:09 |
I agree that there are a few tasty piano runs during Black Sabbath. |
| Bohardy 11.03.2015 16:57 |
OK, my attempt at showing the actual parts that Fred played is here. A few notes, if I may. - Excuse the poor quality. I have a very basic understanding of the technological side of recording music. - I tried to record it the way Queen did, at a slower tempo than what you hear on the album, and sped up slightly. Trouble is, I played some parts a little too slow, and to speed the piece up to the desired tempo affected the sound too much. So it's sped up a touch, but it's still a little slow in parts. - In order to be as exact as possible, I consulted the album versions, C_Matt's revision, the stripped versions on YouTube, live versions, the demo version, and played with the stereo field in order to work out exactly what Fred played. - There are only a couple of occasions where, despite doing the above, you really can't hear exactly what's being played. But I'm confident that what I've got is essentially what Fred played. - There's basically one main part throughout (recorded in two or three sections) with a second (and possibly the occasional third) part providing the odd embelishment or variation on the main track. - I know I could do better (get the tempo more accurate, play one or two of the bits a bit more cleanly), but I've spent too long buggering about with the bloody technical side of things now and I can't be bothered to go back to recording the parts again! - If anybody has any requests for anything else, give me a shout. I think that's about it. As Dysan says, thoroughly deconsructing something like this can ruin the mystique sometimes. But I got enjoyment out of doing this, so hope somebody else can get the same out of hearing it. |
| Bohardy 11.03.2015 17:07 |
Here it be. |
| hobbit in Rhye 11.03.2015 17:14 |
Thank you for the piano track! The piano alone sounds much fiercer than in the album, just how a Black Queen should sound. Amazing work^^ |
| ludwigs 11.03.2015 17:28 |
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| ludwigs 11.03.2015 17:33 |
stupid site |
| ludwigs 11.03.2015 17:35 |
ludwigs wrote: Very nice! A few volume issues BUT excellent work!!Here is my vox harm attempt. I am re-doing this track so am very keen to hear new stuff. link |
| Penetration_Guru 11.03.2015 18:14 |
Surely Kiss would be the perfect band for anyone? You could stay incognito, but get laid a lot. All you have to do is sack a drummer every couple of months and learn the makeup. |
| BETA215 11.03.2015 21:09 |
The piano cover and the vox harm attempt gave me the idea to recreate how would be the TMarchOTBlackQ multitrack. I know it would be difficult, but maybe with the great musicians we have we can make a big project and a really great project: Imagine a great singer (who visits QZone and it's a fan of Queen), a great guitarist, a great drummer, a great bassist, a great pianist and all that stuff. We'll have the best of the best, not like some covers which have a bunch of musicians which tried to make a cover. Here we would have a great amount of work from a lot of musicians from the world, turned into a really great cover. It's only my imagination, if this works: Great! If not, well: another idea to the bin. I hope this inspires someone. :) |
| discosucks 12.03.2015 02:03 |
That is superb. It's lovely to hear all the little notes from this song. Thank you! |
| Bohardy 12.03.2015 03:03 |
Thanks for the comments guys. As hobbit-in-Rhye says, there are parts that are fiercer than what you'd first think is actually being played, as is very often the case with Fred's early piano work. And there were one or two such bits that I had no idea where there at all until I really had a proper look. In doing something like this makes it particularly evident that Fred, as Bri so often says, really did have have an almost drummer-like precision and aptitude in his rhythm work. There's lots of repeated semi-quavers and triplets that require a fair amount of skill, or at least wrist and finger strength, to get exactly right. ludwigs - I haven't listened to yours yet (will later), but no doubt it will be as incredible as your other stuff. Looking forward to it. Could you expan on the volume issues though please? I'll probably try to make a better version of this at some point (despite what I said above!), so if you can point me in the direction of where you think there could be improvements, I'd be grateful. PG - all fair enough, but there's one major drawback though *cough theshitmusic cough*... discosucks - glad you enjoyed it. It was you who inspired this, after all. |
| dysan 12.03.2015 03:21 |
Amazing job guys. If I have time today I'll do some bass guitar. And seriously Bohardy - where are you based? I have some radio session to do and am looking for a keyboard player. |
| dysan 12.03.2015 03:34 |
ludwigs that is bonkers! Well done. |
| Bohardy 12.03.2015 03:53 |
dysan wrote: Amazing job guys. If I have time today I'll do some bass guitar. And seriously Bohardy - where are you based? I have some radio session to do and am looking for a keyboard player. Interesting. I'm in Devon. |
| dysan 12.03.2015 04:14 |
Ah bugger. Oh well. Much kudos to your playing! |
| ludwigs 12.03.2015 04:28 |
My track is just a capture of the vox harmonies. They haven't been mixed in any way yet so this is the reason for the big jumps in volume. Like I said it's a re-visit of the piece I did many years ago. I am yet to add piano, lead guitar and lead vocal. Bo, your piano is great!! |
| Sebastian 12.03.2015 08:07 |
I really liked it. Excellent performance. Looking forward to hear more, if (when?) you have the time and will to do it. |
| The Real Wizard 12.03.2015 11:42 |
Bohardy and Ludwigs - both are brilliant performances !!! Well done, gents. Find a bassist and a drummer and we could turn this into an international effort. I'd happily do the guitars. |
| ludwigs 12.03.2015 12:50 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Bohardy and Ludwigs - both are brilliant performances !!! Well done, gents. Find a bassist and a drummer and we could turn this into an international effort. I'd happily do the guitars.Thanks a lot!!! I already have bass recorded and most of the drums.... |
| The Real Wizard 12.03.2015 13:20 |
ludwigs wrote:Right on.The Real Wizard wrote: Bohardy and Ludwigs - both are brilliant performances !!! Well done, gents. Find a bassist and a drummer and we could turn this into an international effort. I'd happily do the guitars.Thanks a lot!!! I already have bass recorded and most of the drums.... Synch up the piano with the rest and get back to me. :-) |
| Chief Mouse 12.03.2015 13:45 |
We've got some brilliant musicians here! Excellent work, Bohardy and Ludwigs! |
| Penetration_Guru 12.03.2015 14:37 |
BETA215 wrote: The piano cover and the vox harm attempt gave me the idea to recreate how would be the TMarchOTBlackQ multitrack. I know it would be difficult, I can see one small flaw straight away... |
| Bohardy 12.03.2015 16:19 |
ludwigs wrote: My track is just a capture of the vox harmonies. They haven't been mixed in any way yet so this is the reason for the big jumps in volume. Like I said it's a re-visit of the piece I did many years ago. I am yet to add piano, lead guitar and lead vocal. Bo, your piano is great!!Ludwigs, your harmony vox are insanely good. Fabulous work! (Still not sure if you're talking about volume issues on my track or not (as well) though!). |
| Bohardy 12.03.2015 16:27 |
And thanks for the other kind comments guys. |
| ludwigs 12.03.2015 16:44 |
Thanks a lot Bo. I assumed you were noticing the obvious volume level parts of my rough vox harm track? Just listening again thru headphones cranked up. You have captured the piano tone very well.....and it's a very impressive performance. Suggestions: 3:12 - just before the quiet mid-section....there is a nasty volume cut/spike/noise that needs addressing 6:30 - I think the high rolling licks/embellishments could do with being louder. Over all - fucking great!!!! |
| bootLuca 13.03.2015 14:51 |
it would be nice if you can share the whole transcription of this great track.... :) |
| Bohardy 14.03.2015 03:35 |
ludwigs wrote: Thanks a lot Bo. I assumed you were noticing the obvious volume level parts of my rough vox harm track? Just listening again thru headphones cranked up. You have captured the piano tone very well.....and it's a very impressive performance. Suggestions: 3:12 - just before the quiet mid-section....there is a nasty volume cut/spike/noise that needs addressing 6:30 - I think the high rolling licks/embellishments could do with being louder. Over all - fucking great!!!!3:12 - yeah, when I abruptly cut the main part, I got that spike. Don't quite understand how cutting something can create the effect of more volume, but will look at fixing that somehow. 6:30 - think that was a first take that I never bothered to revisit for some reason. Could definitely be improved to be fair. I do fancy doing another song like this, but I can't really think of anything that compares and seems worth doing. Most/all of the other piano stuff is either not that interesting, or has piano parts that are either already available in multitrack or can be easily heard in the mix. Any suggestions? |
| dysan 14.03.2015 03:44 |
Fairy Feller! |
| Chief Mouse 14.03.2015 03:45 |
Bohardy wrote:ludwigs wrote: Thanks a lot Bo. I assumed you were noticing the obvious volume level parts of my rough vox harm track? Just listening again thru headphones cranked up. You have captured the piano tone very well.....and it's a very impressive performance. Suggestions: 3:12 - just before the quiet mid-section....there is a nasty volume cut/spike/noise that needs addressing 6:30 - I think the high rolling licks/embellishments could do with being louder. Over all - fucking great!!!!3:12 - yeah, when I abruptly cut the main part, I got that spike. Don't quite understand how cutting something can create the effect of more volume, but will look at fixing that somehow. 6:30 - think that was a first take that I never bothered to revisit for some reason. Could definitely be improved to be fair. I do fancy doing another song like this, but I can't really think of anything that compares and seems worth doing. Most/all of the other piano stuff is either not that interesting, or has piano parts that are either already available in multitrack or can be easily heard in the mix. Any suggestions? How about In The Lap Of The Gods? The non-revisited version. |
| hobbit in Rhye 14.03.2015 03:51 |
Chief Mouse wrote:Second that. Lap Of The Gods non-revisited struck me the first time I heard it.Bohardy wrote:How about In The Lap Of The Gods? The non-revisited version.ludwigs wrote: Thanks a lot Bo. I assumed you were noticing the obvious volume level parts of my rough vox harm track? Just listening again thru headphones cranked up. You have captured the piano tone very well.....and it's a very impressive performance. Suggestions: 3:12 - just before the quiet mid-section....there is a nasty volume cut/spike/noise that needs addressing 6:30 - I think the high rolling licks/embellishments could do with being louder. Over all - fucking great!!!!3:12 - yeah, when I abruptly cut the main part, I got that spike. Don't quite understand how cutting something can create the effect of more volume, but will look at fixing that somehow. 6:30 - think that was a first take that I never bothered to revisit for some reason. Could definitely be improved to be fair. I do fancy doing another song like this, but I can't really think of anything that compares and seems worth doing. Most/all of the other piano stuff is either not that interesting, or has piano parts that are either already available in multitrack or can be easily heard in the mix. Any suggestions? |
| Bohardy 14.03.2015 04:14 |
hobbit-in-Rhye wrote:As soon as I'd made my post I thought of ITLOTG actually. I transcribed the intro about 12 years ago and posted it here, but never actually recorded it. So I think yeah, that'll be next.Chief Mouse wrote:Second that. Lap Of The Gods non-revisited struck me the first time I heard it.Bohardy wrote:How about In The Lap Of The Gods? The non-revisited version.ludwigs wrote: Thanks a lot Bo. I assumed you were noticing the obvious volume level parts of my rough vox harm track? Just listening again thru headphones cranked up. You have captured the piano tone very well.....and it's a very impressive performance. Suggestions: 3:12 - just before the quiet mid-section....there is a nasty volume cut/spike/noise that needs addressing 6:30 - I think the high rolling licks/embellishments could do with being louder. Over all - fucking great!!!!3:12 - yeah, when I abruptly cut the main part, I got that spike. Don't quite understand how cutting something can create the effect of more volume, but will look at fixing that somehow. 6:30 - think that was a first take that I never bothered to revisit for some reason. Could definitely be improved to be fair. I do fancy doing another song like this, but I can't really think of anything that compares and seems worth doing. Most/all of the other piano stuff is either not that interesting, or has piano parts that are either already available in multitrack or can be easily heard in the mix. Any suggestions? Fairy Feller I kind of recorded years ago, at a similar time but never posted it. Maybe I'll revisit that after. |
| Chief Mouse 14.03.2015 04:19 |
Looking forward to it! |
| hobbit in Rhye 14.03.2015 04:29 |
Bohardy wrote:How much I've missed during these 12 years ^_^Chief Mouse wrote: How about In The Lap Of The Gods? The non-revisited version.As soon as I'd made my post I thought of ITLOTG actually. I transcribed the intro about 12 years ago and posted it here, but never actually recorded it. So I think yeah, that'll be next. Fairy Feller I kind of recorded years ago, at a similar time but never posted it. Maybe I'll revisit that after. Can't wait to hear it soon. |
| dysan 14.03.2015 08:06 |
I hope both the contributors to this thread post lots of stuff! |
| GAP 14.03.2015 09:21 |
Amazing work!!!!! My fairy King would be a master piece to do fellas. |
| The Real Wizard 14.03.2015 09:47 |
A couple samples of what I do, in case you guys want to turn it into a full band thing.. link And see attached here. |
| dysan 14.03.2015 10:32 |
Haha amazing. I must admit to doing the same thing when I first got a Boss delay pedal. FOR. HOURS. |
| hobbit in Rhye 14.03.2015 10:34 |
That's great, Wizard! I turnt it on, listened to it and went absent-mind for a moment. Then I forgot whose it was and thought "Wait... which Queen's concert does it come from?" ^^ |
| ludwigs 14.03.2015 10:56 |
The Real Wizard wrote: A couple samples of what I do, in case you guys want to turn it into a full band thing.. link And see attached here.Nice!! This is what I also do as a hobby. link |
| GAP 14.03.2015 11:28 |
It sounds simply amazing my friend Wizard but you've got to contribute with more stuff so that to appraciate your talent. Keep on it! |
| kosimodo 14.03.2015 11:49 |
What a joy to listen to, thx! |
| mikeryde 16.03.2015 17:25 |
Here is my attempt at MOTBQ, full song... link |
| CPL593h 17.03.2015 07:34 |
So much talent here... You guys should form the first international and virtual band of "new songs, continuing where Queen II left" (that's more or less what Jeff Lynne said, about Sgt. Pepper's when he founded ELO, obviously quoted from memory). |
| BETA215 13.04.2015 22:40 |
Take a look at this: |
| Bohardy 14.04.2015 02:08 |
I consulted that video before I did my piano version, Beta. It was quite useful. |
| dysan 24.07.2019 16:02 |
ludwigs wrote:I just found this on my hard drive and it confused the fuck out of me until the penny dropped. Excellent work Ludwigs.ludwigs wrote: Very nice! A few volume issues BUT excellent work!!Here is my vox harm attempt. I am re-doing this track so am very keen to hear new stuff. |