| HighWideandHandsome 13.02.2015 17:44 |
Is there a song by the four lads that you've just forgotten existed at all, either because it was so mundane or because you hadn't listened to it in so long? For example, yesterday I listened to the Rock in Rio performance of "It's a Hard Life", and it occurred to me that I hadn't heard that particular song in some time and had simply forgotten about it; not because of its averageness--quite the contrary, it's a masterpiece that I chastised myself for not listening to more often. Or do you avoid this problem? |
| matt z 13.02.2015 21:46 |
Ignoring the musical themes and segues in FLASH GORDON. .... I'd say STAYING POWER. But that's only cause it's terrible. Properly forgotten songs: Soul Brother, THE CALL |
| madmetaltom 13.02.2015 21:53 |
Bohemian Rhapsody..... Ha! |
| pittrek 14.02.2015 02:41 |
Delilah |
| Chief Mouse 14.02.2015 02:58 |
Party. Hardly ever listen to it. |
| Costa86 14.02.2015 07:04 |
Jealousy is a really good song, which I rarely listen to and is very rarely even referred to anywhere. For some reason it reminds me of John Lennon. I don't know if that's because of Jealous Guy, or what. |
| tomchristie22 14.02.2015 07:51 |
I like Jealousy a lot. It doesn't crescendo nearly as much as Love of my Life or Nevermore, but it's nice that way - not dramatic, just raw, quiet regret. (I still like Love of my Life and Nevermore more than Jealousy, though). Speaking of Freddie songs that are reminiscent of Lennon, Life Is Real is another fairly forgotten track of which I'm a big fan. |
| The Real Wizard 14.02.2015 07:57 |
Good Company. The last minute of the song is a piece of genius, but instead most people listen to Free Bird and think that's the greatest guitar solo of all time. As far as I'm concerned, Free Bird is the worst guitar solo of all time. It is directionless wanking that goes on for far too long. Good Company has an astoundingly brilliant arrangement of a dixieland jazz band with three guitars emulating trumpet, trombone and clarinet. Almost nobody knows this. Even if they've heard it, it's taken as a filler track because it's between two of the most loved songs of all time. And to me, this is absolutely tragic, and my vote for the most underrated song in the Queen catalogue. |
| maths15 14.02.2015 08:33 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Good Company. The last minute of the song is a piece of genius, but instead most people listen to Free Bird and think that's the greatest guitar solo of all time. As far as I'm concerned, Free Bird is the worst guitar solo of all time. It is directionless wanking that goes on for far too long. Good Company has an astoundingly brilliant arrangement of a dixieland jazz band with three guitars emulating trumpet, trombone and clarinet. Almost nobody knows this. Even if they've heard it, it's taken as a filler track because it's between two of the most loved songs of all time. And to me, this is absolutely tragic, and my vote for the most underrated song in the Queen catalogue.100 %. Agree. Possibly one of the most innovative solos by any guitarist. I once had a debate with someone who stated Dave Mustaine was a better guitarist than BM. I used Good Company as an example of how BM is in a completely differnent league. Back to OP, I would say Great King Rat. |
| cmsdrums 14.02.2015 08:58 |
Some of the first album, such as Jesus, just gets forgotten. Jealousy is a good shout for a forgotten gem, and for me 'You Take My Breath Away' is one of the greatest songs in their canon of work. |
| master marathon runner 14.02.2015 09:17 |
Ooh, erm, the night comes down, jealousy, who needs you, misfire, drowse, bring back Leroy brown. |
| BradMay 14.02.2015 10:28 |
Who Needs You is overlooked, Dancer in my opinion as well (i quite like it, has a nice groove, and the guitar solo is sweet) All Gods People (Very nice theatrical track) Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy, and i think that the majority of Queen fans should listen to Was It All Worth It, beautiful lyrics! |
| Oscar J 14.02.2015 11:38 |
Spread Your Wings is perhaps not overlooked by Queenzoners, but by casual fans, I think it is. |
| The King Of Rhye 14.02.2015 12:09 |
Interesting question...... The first one that comes to mind for me.....OK, its NOT really overlooked, its one of Queen's most famous songs.....perhaps overlooked among the diehard Queen fans, though, cus I never really hear it mentioned as anyone's favorite song, but Under Pressure is sheer genius! When I first started getting into Queen, I always kinda dismissed it as just another poppy, catchy hit (a la AOBTD).........now its one of my favorites, it's really got a weird but effective structure, if that makes any sense! Er, what else.....the one Brian himself described as overlooked or something along those lines.........Dead On Time......... |
| brandywine 14.02.2015 12:22 |
Have to agree dead on time is a great one, always liked all God's people as well |
| Costa86 14.02.2015 12:42 |
tomchristie22 wrote: I like Jealousy a lot. It doesn't crescendo nearly as much as Love of my Life or Nevermore, but it's nice that way - not dramatic, just raw, quiet regret. (I still like Love of my Life and Nevermore more than Jealousy, though). Speaking of Freddie songs that are reminiscent of Lennon, Life Is Real is another fairly forgotten track of which I'm a big fan.Life Is Real is good and underrated. |
| Ale Solan 14.02.2015 12:58 |
Track 12: Yeah Made in Heaven album, 1995 |
| The King Of Rhye 14.02.2015 13:07 |
Ale Solan wrote: Track 12: Yeah Made in Heaven album, 1995That's pretty easy to overlook! |
| una999 14.02.2015 13:41 |
pittrek wrote: DelilahI'd agree, this is a song that's definitely overlooked. The opening 2 lines alone are better than some entire Queen songs. |
| una999 14.02.2015 13:44 |
I'd say Heaven for Everyone. Or else Lily of the Valley. |
| The King Of Rhye 14.02.2015 15:00 |
Other tracks on MIH seem to generally get more praise, but the song Made In Heaven is a favorite of mine! I actually didnt hear the original Freddie version till years later, but I love the Queen version......... Also a track I never cared much for was Funny How Love Is.......never liked it much at all, but I think the 2011 remaster really takes the song to new levels. |
| david (galashiels) 14.02.2015 17:38 |
its late |
| Your Fairy King 15.02.2015 09:45 |
david (galashiels) wrote: its lateWhy this song isn't a staple of classic rock stations in the US remains a mystery to me. |
| HighWideandHandsome 15.02.2015 11:38 |
maths15 wrote: Back to OP, I would say Great King Rat. I love Great King Rat so much! Live at the Rainbow got me hooked on that one. I tend to forget about a lot of the Jazz album as well. Nothing on there, besides "Fat Bottomed Girls", "Bicycle Race", "Let Me Entertain You", and "Don't Stop Me Now" ever captivated me that much. |
| HighWideandHandsome 15.02.2015 11:50 |
Your Fairy King wrote:david (galashiels) wrote: its lateWhy this song isn't a staple of classic rock stations in the US remains a mystery to me. I would rather have that than some of the dull songs I hear. |
| Band Forever 15.02.2015 13:59 |
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| Band Forever 15.02.2015 14:00 |
Ride the Wild Wind! Hey! Hey! Hey! brilliant song should be more popular! |
| k-m 15.02.2015 16:34 |
Band Forever wrote: Ride the Wild Wind! Hey! Hey! Hey! brilliant song should be more popular!I agree. In fact, Polish radio played it as a single and it climbed to no. 14 before Freddie's passing. It was still in the chart when Freddie died and the song quickly went to no. 1, only to be knocked off the top by Days of Our Lives. |
| The Real Wizard 15.02.2015 17:52 |
HighWideandHandsome wrote: I tend to forget about a lot of the Jazz album as well. Nothing on there, besides "Fat Bottomed Girls", "Bicycle Race", "Let Me Entertain You", and "Don't Stop Me Now" ever captivated me that much.Give it another listen - there are definitely another 3 or 4 good tracks on there. The album is full of excellent guitar and vocal arrangements - particularly Dreamers Ball. That one's on par with the quirkier songs on ANATO or ADATR, as far as I'm concerned. |
| HighWideandHandsome 15.02.2015 18:59 |
The Real Wizard wrote:HighWideandHandsome wrote: I tend to forget about a lot of the Jazz album as well. Nothing on there, besides "Fat Bottomed Girls", "Bicycle Race", "Let Me Entertain You", and "Don't Stop Me Now" ever captivated me that much.Give it another listen - there are definitely another 3 or 4 good tracks on there. The album is full of excellent guitar and vocal arrangements - particularly Dreamers Ball. That one's on par with the quirkier songs on ANATO or ADATR, as far as I'm concerned. Ah! Dreamers Ball!! What did I tell you?? I have the Live Killers version of the track, so I have listened to it. And when I do, I enjoy every second. |
| KJ 16.02.2015 09:32 |
Queen songs I forget: Jesus Dead on Time If you can't beat them More of that jazz Leaving home ain't easy I guess I forget mainly about the Jazz album all the time |
| AlbaNo1 17.02.2015 16:08 |
Coming Soon Barely registers as a song. |
| malicedoom 18.02.2015 13:27 |
- In Only Seven Days - All Dead, All Dead - Scandal (yes, more people should know about this incredible fucking song, damnit...) |
| Heavenite 19.02.2015 04:48 |
Sail Away Sister! Simply gorgeous! Love Leaving Home ain't Easy as well, even though it doesn't seem that popular with most fans. Whereas It's Late bores the bejeezus out of me unfortunately. I would much rather have the relatively unheard tracks Sleeping on the Sidewalk and Who Needs You off News of the World. |
| HighWideandHandsome 19.02.2015 14:09 |
Heavenite wrote: Sail Away Sister! Simply gorgeous! Love Leaving Home ain't Easy as well, even though it doesn't seem that popular with most fans. Whereas It's Late bores the bejeezus out of me unfortunately. I would much rather have the relatively unheard tracks Sleeping on the Sidewalk and Who Needs You off News of the World. I do love me some "Sleeping on the Sidewalk"... ...and from that same album, I think "All Dead, All Dead" is rarely mentioned; gorgeous song. |
| tomchristie22 19.02.2015 16:00 |
HighWideandHandsome wrote: ...and from that same album, I think "All Dead, All Dead" is rarely mentioned; gorgeous song.Yes! I've never heard anyone say they dislike this song, but it's also rarely talked about. It's stunning, easily one of my favourite Queen songs. |
| paulosham 19.02.2015 18:03 |
The Night Comes Down. The intro alone is amazing. |
| Heavenite 20.02.2015 13:47 |
All Dead All Dead is certainly another that I like off NOTW! |
| HighWideandHandsome 05.03.2015 12:28 |
This didn't occur to me until last night (which was the whole point of the thread), but I think I've listened to "The Night Comes Down" exactly twice. It's the only non-instrumental on Queen that doesn't stay with me at all. |
| Rick 05.03.2015 12:55 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Jazz, with better production, would have been a great album. The drum sound is just terrible and the album overall sounds really thin.HighWideandHandsome wrote: I tend to forget about a lot of the Jazz album as well. Nothing on there, besides "Fat Bottomed Girls", "Bicycle Race", "Let Me Entertain You", and "Don't Stop Me Now" ever captivated me that much.Give it another listen - there are definitely another 3 or 4 good tracks on there. The album is full of excellent guitar and vocal arrangements - particularly Dreamers Ball. That one's on par with the quirkier songs on ANATO or ADATR, as far as I'm concerned. |
| miraclesteinway 05.03.2015 14:33 |
Dreamer's Ball, Good Company, You Take My Breath Away, Dear Friends - I love that song! Nevermore is a beauty too, Lilly of the Valley, I'm going to go with the Wizard here and say, Good Company. Genius. |
| hobbit in Rhye 05.03.2015 14:38 |
Flick Of The Wrist at the moment for me. I don't hear people mention it enough. At my first listen I didn't pay attention to it either, but after Rainbow DVD I totally got hooked! Impressive lyrics and melodies. It's on par with Death on Two Legs but the latter got all the sneering glory. |
| Day dop 05.03.2015 16:22 |
Dragon Attack. For no other reason than because it should've been a single. |
| mike hunt 05.03.2015 19:23 |
Dragon Attack is a good choice, Love of My Life should be more popular. |
| Shvili 05.03.2015 19:47 |
I would say "LIAR". In a way, the song kinda gives you an idea what Queen is....or should I say....was going to be about in terms of style. link |
| hobbit in Rhye 06.03.2015 18:05 |
Eh, Liar overlooked? I heard it everywhere... And the audience in Queen's early concerts always demanded it. |
| mike hunt 08.03.2015 10:36 |
Yea, liar was overlooked by the general public. Great song |
| Fat Bottomed Queen 29.07.2015 06:10 |
Jesus. |
| Sebastian 29.07.2015 06:48 |
I think a large amount of fans have got 'A Night at the Opera' so I don't really think ''Good Company' is too overlooked. Compared to the hits, of course it is, but not compared to the average Queen non-single album track. I agree it's probably the band's best song (bar ''39') but not even in the top 50 of their overlooked pieces. Obviously, it depends on how you define 'overlooked.' For me, it works like this: In the developed Western world, the average listener (not even a music fan) with access to iTunes or YT or social media is already familiar with a few Queen songs (Bo Rhap, Champions, Rock You, Dust, Crazy, depending on their area we might add others to the list such as Don't Stop Me Now, Ga Ga, Magic and Break Free). So those obviously don't count. A more casual listener (but not necessarily Queen fan) will also probably know a few of their medium-sized hits: Killer Queen, Best Friend, Show Must Go On, I Want It All. Those don't count either. Someone more interested in Queen and entering what we could define as the 'fandom' (or fan dumb, depending) probably has all Greatest Hits, plus maybe Opera, Made in Heaven, The Game, News of the World and perhaps Queen II if they're the typical fan whose favourite record is that one (there are plenty of those, with good reason). So those ones can be safely ruled out as well, even though all albums have some overlooked pieces in the context of the album (e.g., most people praise 'Black Queen', very few rate 'Some Day One Day' that high). They're also quite likely to be familiar with British and American singles even if they flopped (e.g., 'Keep Yourself Alive' and 'Tie Your Mother Down', at the very least because they've both got videos). They might also be familiar with songs included on some famous concerts (e.g., 'Tear It Up' was played at Wembley, 'Son & Daughter', partly, at Hammy '75). Anything further than that is what I'd actually regard as 'overlooked:' pieces on the other albums which weren't singles and which weren't included on the concerts the average Queen fan has bought, downloaded or seen on YT. That leaves us with: * Most of the début album (exceptions: Keep Yourself Alive, Liar, Son & Daughter and perhaps Doing All Right because of Smile and because it was played at Earls Court). * Tenement Funster,Lily of the Valley, She Makes Me, Dear Friends, Misfire. Other songs from 'SHA' are quite overlooked because the album's neither as commercially successful as 'Opera' nor it's got as much cult following as 'Queen II'. But I'd argue there are loads of fans who are at least vaguely familiar with 'Leroy Brown' and 'Lap of the Gods' if only just because they saw them on the Rainbow videos. 'Flick of the Wrist' is remarkably overlooked considering it was an A-Side, but it's still fairly well-known for fans. At least they know it exists and was played at both Rainbow and Hyde Park. * 'Long Away' (despite having been a single in the States), 'You and I' and 'Drowse.' The whole 'Races' album is generally quite underrated, but the singles and the pieces they routinely performed live have had much more exposure than those three songs. 'Teo Torriatte' is unique enough to be well-known just because of its uniqueness ('Mustapha' is a similar case). * Anything not (solely) sung by Freddie on the 'Jazz' album, plus Dead on Time' and 'In Only Seven Days.' 'If You Can't Beat Them' and 'Dreamer's Ball' are far less overlooked than those thanks to bootlegs from concerts ('Dreamer's Ball' also thanks to 'Live Killers'). * The whole 'Flash Gordon' OST except for 'Flash's Theme' and 'The Hero.' * 'Dancer,' 'Life Is Real' and 'Cool Cat.' The others either were singles (with video and all that) or were performed in Milton Keynes. * 'Keep Passing the Open Windows' and 'Machines': The rest were singles or (at least partially) performed at Wembley & Budapest. * John's songs on the 'Magic' album (except 'Friends Will Be Friends') plus 'Gimme the Prize' and perhaps 'Don't Lose Your Head,' though both are reasonably familiar to those who watched the film. * 'Khashoggi's Ship' and the Deacon/Mercury songs on 'The Miracle.' 'Party' is often mentioned for being the opener and for often being hated. The other three fit the definition of 'overlooked' much more. * 'Ride the Wild Wind', 'The Hitman', 'All God's People' and 'Don't Try So Hard.' 'Bijou' got exposure when Brian played it on the tours with Paul, 'I Can't Live with You' got exposure via 'Queen Rocks.' 'Delilah''s famous even to some non-Queen fans because of the whole story of the cat, and it's also often mentioned because of so many people who hate it. And then of course there are B-Sides and unreleased songs which were so overlooked that they weren't even on the albums. |
| Holly2003 29.07.2015 09:48 |
Machines (Back to Humans) is really good, albeit with some awful lyrics. Back Chat has a great guitar solo but is often lumped in with the rest of Hot Space as dross. A Human Body is a wonderful little song that is overlooked because it's a non-album track. The whole Flash Gordon album is great. Queen were very innovative there, and I regard it as the last "classic Queen" album, but it gets overlooked as its a soundtrack and "not a proper album". |
| Oscar J 29.07.2015 11:43 |
Sebastian: I think you might be missing the significant difference between a song being "overlooked" and just "not well known". Overlooked usually means that it got a lot less exposure than it deserved. So - if you consider Good Company their second best song ever, and it's their (for example) 60th most well known song, then it's a very, very overlooked song indeed. Even though there are many Queen tracks that are even less in the public's consciousness (Party, Yeah, Flash Gordon tracks), they might not be considered as overlooked, simply because they aren't as good as Good Company. |
| dysan 29.07.2015 11:59 |
I dislike All Dead All Dead. It seems about 4 hours long and is totally in the wrong place on the album. |
| dysan 29.07.2015 11:59 |
Same with YTMBA on Races. Kills the album stone dead. |
| Oscar J 29.07.2015 13:25 |
Wth. Those are fabulous songs! |
| hobbit in Rhye 29.07.2015 14:19 |
dysan: I won't comment on how you dislike YTMBA (I like that song) but I can murder you if you hate All Dead All Dead lol It might feel long, because it's a nostalgia song. The melody, the lyrics, the guitar symphony is wonderful. The lyrics, argh - you couldn't write a more endearing lyrics even for your human lover. I don't know why Delilah is so famous for being a cat song, ADAD is 100 times better as a cat song or a general song. |
| queenUSA 29.07.2015 18:49 |
I just heard Silver Salmon this weekend for the first time. I'd have to say it was overlooked (potential wise) by the band itself. For early Queen, I liked it. While it didn't get picked up for Deep Cuts, maybe it could be considered for Super Deep Cuts. |
| matt z 29.07.2015 19:26 |
queenUSA wrote: I just heard Silver Salmon this weekend for the first time. I'd have to say it was overlooked (potential wise) by the band itself. For early Queen, I liked it. While it didn't get picked up for Deep Cuts, maybe it could be considered for Super Deep Cuts.Maybe that acetate will be released as a selling gimmick for ABSOLUTE DEEPEST CUTS volume 1 *(lest you forget that the actual PACKAGING white label sticker on QUEEN ROCKS cds stated "QUEEN ROCKS volume 1"... I can almost swear it did. .. I usually keep those things) |
| The King Of Rhye 29.07.2015 22:12 |
matt z wrote: *(lest you forget that the actual PACKAGING white label sticker on QUEEN ROCKS cds stated "QUEEN ROCKS volume 1"... I can almost swear it did. .. I usually keep those things)It sure did! I remember that sticker! lol....also I think it said something like 'featuring so-and-so song and such-and-such, and 17 other tracks' when there were only 17 songs on the whole thing.... |
| tomchristie22 30.07.2015 00:08 |
hobbit in Rhye wrote: I don't know why Delilah is so famous for being a cat song, ADAD is 100 times better as a cat song or a general song.'Cause 'All Dead, All Dead' is much more than just a cat song - not only is it a very eloquent contemplation of death and loss in general, it also has nothing in its lyrics to make so explicit that it's inspired by cat, unlike 'Delilah'. Still, 'Delilah' is pretty powerful in its own way, which is summed up well by the line 'You make me smile when I'm just about to cry', and the fact that Freddie sang 'die' in place of 'cry' in one early version. |
| Estranged 30.07.2015 02:01 |
Scandal is pretty damn overlooked. What a shame. |
| Sebastian 30.07.2015 03:56 |
Oscar J wrote: Sebastian: I think you might be missing the significant difference between a song being "overlooked" and just "not well known". Overlooked usually means that it got a lot less exposure than it deserved. So - if you consider Good Company their second best song ever, and it's their (for example) 60th most well known song, then it's a very, very overlooked song indeed. Even though there are many Queen tracks that are even less in the public's consciousness (Party, Yeah, Flash Gordon tracks), they might not be considered as overlooked, simply because they aren't as good as Good Company.While the term is certainly not a synonym of 'not well known,' it's not the same as 'proportionally underrated' either. Although, at the end of the day, it's about how you choose to interpret its meaning. 'Overlooked' means 'unnoticed,' and in that sense I don't think 'Good Company' was ignored. It comes up in biographies, reviews, documentaries, it's often mentioned as an example of a Queen gem and praised for its craftsmanship (e.g., here, on this thread). It's been remixed for surround, it's got an official video of some sort (made three decades after the fact but still), it's been included on the 'Making of' and its author has spoken in some sort of detail about how it was made. Its multitrack sheets have also been shown. So, sure, on a 'how great the song is' vs 'how well known this song is' ratio, 'Good Company' might score higher than, say, 'Leaving Home Ain't Easy,' but on an 'is this song vastly ignored?' way, it's not. 'Leaving Home' is far more overlooked in my opinion. It doesn't make it better or anything, but it is, in my opinion, more fitting for the title of this thread. |
| Pokemaniacjunk 30.07.2015 17:53 |
HighWideandHandsome wrote: Is there a song by the four lads that you've just forgotten existed at all, either because it was so mundane or because you hadn't listened to it in so long? For example, yesterday I listened to the Rock in Rio performance of "It's a Hard Life", and it occurred to me that I hadn't heard that particular song in some time and had simply forgotten about it; not because of its averageness--quite the contrary, it's a masterpiece that I chastised myself for not listening to more often. Or do you avoid this problem?I would say the night comes down from the debut album it's a beautiful song and you hardly ever hear about despite being the earliest Queen song if you don't count the Larry lurex songs |
| tomchristie22 30.07.2015 20:30 |
HighWideandHandsome wrote: Is there a song by the four lads that you've just forgotten existed at all, either because it was so mundane or because you hadn't listened to it in so long?The entire Flash Gordon album. In honesty, I've really never listened to it. I've listened to 'Flash's Theme' a decent amount, but that was mostly on Greatest Hits - once I moved into deeper listening, I kind of forgot about it, since I never delved into the Flash Gordon album. I heard 'The Hero' on Live at the Bowl and then probably sought out the studio version at some point, out of interest. I've also heard 'The Wedding March' since I learned that it was a guitar orchestration much like Procession, A Day at the Races and God Save the Queen (though it proved to be not as interesting). So this is all just my personal experience, but I do think it's pretty likely that the instrumental tracks on Flash Gordon are the least noticed, as they're almost never mentioned, even by fairly devout listeners on forums like this one. |
| Vocal harmony 31.07.2015 06:03 |
Overlooked by who? Are we talking the casual person in the street who maybe is aware of a couple of hits, the casual fan who is aware of the hits and owns a few albums or a serious fan who owns every album and DVD. Or are we talking about the band members prospetive. For instance BM, in the past has sighted Long Away as being over looked. In each case the answer to the overlooked question will be very different |