Just For You 20.01.2015 09:22 |
Seemed to step on someone's toes with this. I didn't realise it was a no-go. |
Nitroboy 20.01.2015 09:32 |
Almost too good to be true.... |
Barry Durex 20.01.2015 09:42 |
It is. |
alberbal12 20.01.2015 09:46 |
Did somebody know the date of that concert? Thanks |
Barry Durex 20.01.2015 09:56 |
^ 5th November City Hall |
Just For You 20.01.2015 10:03 |
All tracks are present :) |
Barry Durex 20.01.2015 10:05 |
Let the fun begin. |
alberbal12 20.01.2015 10:09 |
Barry Durex wrote: ^ 5th November City HallThanks, condom man! |
feasboss 20.01.2015 10:15 |
Superb post - love these unexpected rarities, especially with such good sound quality. Thanks a lot. |
alberbal12 20.01.2015 10:18 |
I hope somebody have the raw and entire 31/march Rainbow 1974 concert... I wanna hear The Fairy Fellers Master Stroke with real sound! |
Barry Durex 20.01.2015 10:24 |
5,4,3,2,1 |
Nitroboy 20.01.2015 10:25 |
So this is legit, and not a troll/bait thread? In that case, thank you for sharing! :) |
brians wig 20.01.2015 10:26 |
Well I think it's fair to say that some fucker has broken a promise not to trade this one. It's mine and I've been trying to get it pressed to bootleg vinyl and CD for a few months rather than release it here first and then see all the german/japanese bootleggers get their shitty little hands on it and make a fuck load of money out of something that isn't theirs. I've even paid for a licence with MCP to do it as well. That's blown now and money wasted. Was it David Fuller again? The biggest irony is that when I spoke to Brian May a few weeks ago, he said they didn't have this one and I was taking a copy with me tonight to Leeds to pass over to Phil. Seems I don't need to bother now. Pittrek should take credit for cleaning up the recording and correcting the speed. Please don't give him shit for keeping his promise and not trading it or talking about it. At least someone out there is trustworthy. |
brians wig 20.01.2015 10:30 |
Would REALLY like to know where you got it from "Just For you" - who suspiciously just happens to be a newbie..... |
Vali 20.01.2015 10:37 |
so sad .... as happy as I should be for seeing this rarity shared here... well, I don't after learning the story behind it. I really feel sorry for you, brians wig. Hope someone gets what he deserves in return. |
Nitroboy 20.01.2015 10:38 |
Ouch, you have my sympathies BW. I'm happy that the recording has surfaced, but I'm not happy about the way it's been done. |
Nitroboy 20.01.2015 10:38 |
EDIT: Forum bugged and double-posted.... |
on my way up 20.01.2015 10:43 |
Ouch, a broken promise! That's not cool of whoever uploads this... It's down to the person who first managed to find or buy a certain item to decide what happens with it. Promises should be honored. |
on my way up 20.01.2015 10:43 |
Double post! Sorry. |
on my way up 20.01.2015 10:43 |
Triple post! Sorry. |
moonie 20.01.2015 11:09 |
While I obviously feel very sypathetic towards Brians Wig, I must admit to being a bit gutted to have missed out on this one.. |
moonie 20.01.2015 11:09 |
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Just For You 20.01.2015 12:23 |
brians wig wrote: Would REALLY like to know where you got it from "Just For you" - who suspiciously just happens to be a newbie.....Sir, I did not do this to annoy anyone or get anyone into trouble. I won't name my source so as not to cause any further bad feeling, however this was in no way an attempt to break trust or "troll" (as some other person has suggested"). I had no idea this was a no-go area, and have deleted the link and the folder so as not to cause you any further damage. A couple of people have managed to get the link, but I really do hope that this is not further shared. I really had no intention of deliberately hurting anyone, and my status as a "newbie" has no bearing. I am exactly that, a new user who though he was bringing a genuine bit of good news to people, and this embarrassment means I will not be back. I had many, many great things to share, but am worried about an unwelcome impact now. I just thought that I was doing good, as other users look to have been doing recently. My only defence is that all of these shares here came from somewhere they perhaps shouldn't have. Sorry for any inconvenience. I hope your plans can still come to fruition and are not affected by this misunderstanding. |
Barry Durex 20.01.2015 12:42 |
The link was withdrawn and an apology has been made. Sounds like a genuine mistake to me. BTW, starting a sentence with "Sir" should not be considered a giveaway to identity. |
Vali 20.01.2015 12:43 |
and now I'm glad (as strange as that may sound) that I didn't download it ! hope brians wig can share it some day the way he had initially planned ! |
Nitroboy 20.01.2015 12:47 |
I managed to grab the whole thing, but out of respect for Brians Wig, I won't be sharing it. |
Barry Durex 20.01.2015 12:59 |
Nitroboy wrote: I managed to grab the whole thing, but out of respect for Brians Wig, I won't be sharing it.Not a clever response if you think about it. Why say you have something you wont share. Maybe you should have kept it to yourself? |
Oscar J 20.01.2015 12:59 |
I got it too, because I wanted all the songs so that I could listen all through it. Won't share it either, of course, hell I might even delete it - just sounded like a slightly more shaky Rainbow concert to me. So that makes two of us - do you have any idea how many in total that downloaded the files? By all means - please share your great things, we're all eager to hear I think. Just make sure the bootlegger/owner is okay with it before you put it up here. |
BETA215 20.01.2015 13:02 |
Oh, shit. I lost THE OPPORTUNITY I had to manage to have something to start trading. X( |
Barry Durex 20.01.2015 13:07 |
BETA215 wrote: Oh, shit. I lost THE OPPORTUNITY I had to manage to have something to start trading. X(It's out there now, so PM the carrot danglers that will no doubt let you know they have it.. Once you get it you can start boasting yourself. |
Barry Durex 20.01.2015 13:10 |
Oscar J wrote: I got it too....Sigh, good for you. Please PM Oscar J if you want it. Don't forget to credit him when you share it. |
Oscar J 20.01.2015 13:13 |
I don't get what the problem is here. If most people having downloaded the concert turns out to be somewhat trusted members on here, we'll know not much harm has been done. No? |
Marknow 20.01.2015 13:24 |
brians wig wrote: Well I think it's fair to say that some fucker has broken a promise not to trade this one. It's mine and I've been trying to get it pressed to bootleg vinyl and CD for a few months rather than release it here first and then see all the german/japanese bootleggers get their shitty little hands on it and make a fuck load of money out of something that isn't theirs. I've even paid for a licence with MCP to do it as well. That's blown now and money wasted. Was it David Fuller again? The biggest irony is that when I spoke to Brian May a few weeks ago, he said they didn't have this one and I was taking a copy with me tonight to Leeds to pass over to Phil. Seems I don't need to bother now. Pittrek should take credit for cleaning up the recording and correcting the speed. Please don't give him shit for keeping his promise and not trading it or talking about it. At least someone out there is trustworthy. I feel gutted for you mate, the best of intentions blown by some wanker, I would still love to see you put this out as you had intended, I certainly would still support whatever you put out. I think you have something quite unique planned especially considering you have legal go ahead. Take the tape to Brian and let him know some asshat released it today, I bet he will sympathise with that. |
Marknow 20.01.2015 13:25 |
Double post, cos I'm double angry, and the forum is fucked up! |
BETA215 20.01.2015 13:42 |
Barry Durex wrote:BETA215 wrote: Oh, shit. I lost THE OPPORTUNITY I had to manage to have something to start trading. X(The perils of trading in all it's glory! Of course my nigga'. The Knebworth 32mm tape in Full HD is shit comparing it to this! This is the perils of trading with the Hangman acetate and the Argentina 91' concert! How I couldn't have this! I've lost all the efforts I made in my life to have this. Life is a bitch. |
The Real Wizard 20.01.2015 14:35 |
brians wig wrote: The biggest irony is that when I spoke to Brian May a few weeks ago, he said they didn't have this one and I was taking a copy with me tonight to Leeds to pass over to Phil. Seems I don't need to bother now.I'd just give the doc the tape anyway. He doesn't care about what happens on this site. He'll probably just listen to it once and barely make it through because it's still an audience tape, after all. But it'll sure make him happy to have something he didn't have before. He's still the biggest Queen collector of all. |
The Real Wizard 20.01.2015 14:44 |
Just For You wrote: I won't name my source so as not to cause any further bad feeling, however this was in no way an attempt to break trust or "troll" (as some other person has suggested"). I will not be back. I had many, many great things to share, but am worried about an unwelcome impact now.1) Sure, don't name names here, but you absolutely should tell Brian's Wig who your source is. The original tape is his, and he deserves to know who betrayed his trust. The chain can be traced, and you can help if you choose to. 2) No need to cut and run. If you say you have more things, then check with your sources to make sure that they're OK to be shared. If you didn't know that this Sheffield recording was a no fly zone, then how can you be sure that all of these other supposed things you possess have the same no-share status? |
Gregsynth 20.01.2015 14:53 |
You gotta be kidding me! |
Gregsynth 20.01.2015 14:53 |
So there was a show, then the links disappeared? Man, that's a punch in the gut. |
Oscar J 20.01.2015 15:25 |
To make it even worse Greg, Freddie hits A4's in both the choruses of Flick Of The Wrist. |
Barry Durex 20.01.2015 15:31 |
The Real Wizard wrote: If you say you have more things, then check with your sources to make sure that they're OK to be shared. If you didn't know that this Sheffield recording was a no fly zone, then how can you be sure that all of these other supposed things you possess have the same no-share status?No fly zone, WTF? Check with your sources, WTF? No share status, WTF? Honestly, what do YOU sound like? Let's bust this wide open and post a list of who has what and what can't be shared. I have a big list, so I know the score. Any players? |
Gregsynth 20.01.2015 15:40 |
Oscar J wrote: To make it even worse Greg, Freddie hits A4's in both the choruses of Flick Of The Wrist. Taunting me isn't helping!!!!! XD |
Barry Durex 20.01.2015 15:43 |
Oscar J wrote: To make it even worse Greg, Freddie hits A4's in both the choruses of Flick Of The Wrist.Clever, NOT! |
Oscar J 20.01.2015 16:21 |
You're right, it's not very clever, he should be saving his voice for Rainbow. :-) |
Barry Durex 20.01.2015 16:23 |
Oscar J wrote: You're right, it's not very clever, he should be saving his voice for Rainbow. :-)Keep going son, there's a big hole in the ground coming up. |
inu-liger 20.01.2015 16:26 |
What show was this? Or is this going to become yet another carrot dangling exercise? |
Barry Durex 20.01.2015 16:27 |
inu-liger wrote: What show was this? Or is this going to become yet another carrot dangling exercise?Why not ask Oscar J?, he seems to be a smug little fucker. |
Barry Durex 20.01.2015 16:48 |
brians wig wrote: It's mine and I've been trying to get it pressed to bootleg vinyl and CD for a few months... I've even paid for a licence with MCP to do it as well. That's blown now and money wasted.Not sure if this sounds very moral even if it is legal in your part of the world. I'm sorry if I don't sound very sympathetic. |
Barry Durex 20.01.2015 16:51 |
Is it me or has it all gone mad? Who wants a fight? |
brunogorski 20.01.2015 17:10 |
Gregsynth wrote:And Freddie has done the first footstep solo EVER. 5:36 minutes of pure dancing and woof woof woof paft.Oscar J wrote: To make it even worse Greg, Freddie hits A4's in both the choruses of Flick Of The Wrist.Taunting me isn't helping!!!!! XD |
Gregsynth 20.01.2015 17:14 |
You people are nuts! |
Barry Durex 20.01.2015 17:19 |
^ This is QZ, it is mandatory. |
Gregsynth 20.01.2015 17:28 |
^ Absolutely. :) |
BETA215 20.01.2015 17:29 |
inu-liger wrote: What show was this? Or is this going to become yet another carrot dangling exercise? link |
The Real Wizard 20.01.2015 18:13 |
Barry Durex wrote: No fly zone, WTF? Check with your sources, WTF? No share status, WTF? Honestly, what do YOU sound like?Someone who has been to this rodeo before. Do you think every unreleased recording in your collection suddenly popped up online with no middle men, in decades of tape trading? |
brians wig 20.01.2015 19:00 |
Barry Durex wrote:Well, the bootleg companies are going to make a shit load of money out of this and I'm sorry, but I don't see why they should benefit and I don't. I was hoping to try and beat the bootleggers a bit first and, like I said, I'd been in touch with MCP, told them the situation and they said I could buy a licence which would allow me to have copies made. Being a vinyl freak, I wanted to do 50 vinyls, but that's proving difficult to do in the UK.brians wig wrote: It's mine and I've been trying to get it pressed to bootleg vinyl and CD for a few months... I've even paid for a licence with MCP to do it as well. That's blown now and money wasted.Not sure if this sounds very moral even if it is legal in your part of the world. I'm sorry if I don't sound very sympathetic. |
brians wig 20.01.2015 19:00 |
Barry Durex wrote:Well, the bootleg companies are going to make a shit load of money out of this and I'm sorry, but I don't see why they should benefit and I don't. I was hoping to try and beat the bootleggers a bit first and, like I said, I'd been in touch with MCP, told them the situation and they said I could buy a licence which would allow me to have copies made. Being a vinyl freak, I wanted to do 50 vinyls, but that's proving difficult to do in the UK.brians wig wrote: It's mine and I've been trying to get it pressed to bootleg vinyl and CD for a few months... I've even paid for a licence with MCP to do it as well. That's blown now and money wasted.Not sure if this sounds very moral even if it is legal in your part of the world. I'm sorry if I don't sound very sympathetic. |
brians wig 20.01.2015 19:06 |
Just For You. THANK YOU for your consideration in this matter and also to everyone else who has promised not to upload it yet. It WILL appear soon. The plan was for the 5th of November last year, but I couldn't get a vinyl company to commit to a low print run and I'd decided to give it until 5th November this year to try and sort something out before sharing it, but obviously plans have now changed. Please allow me a little while to rescue some use from this recording before I upload it myself. |
BETA215 20.01.2015 22:44 |
So dear friends your love has gone Only tears to dwell upon I dare not say as the wind must blow So a love is lost, a love is won Go to sleep and dream again Soon your hopes will rise and then From all this gloom life can start anew And there'll be no crying soon |
BETA215 20.01.2015 23:00 |
The Real Wizard wrote: If you didn't know that this Sheffield recording was a no fly zone, then how can you be sure that all of these other supposed things you possess have the same no-share status? Can you tell us the story of this recording? I'm very intrigued about this being a Sheffied recording. |
BETA215 20.01.2015 23:15 |
brians wig wrote: Just For You. THANK YOU for your consideration in this matter and also to everyone else who has promised not to upload it yet. It WILL appear soon. The plan was for the 5th of November last year, but I couldn't get a vinyl company to commit to a low print run and I'd decided to give it until 5th November this year to try and sort something out before sharing it, but obviously plans have now changed. Please allow me a little while to rescue some use from this recording before I upload it myself. Keep calm. An internet friend of mine (who isn't an active QueenZone user in the comments, but he/she download things), shared me the first songs: Procession, NIHere, FatherTS, OBattle and WhiteQ. He said me that he/she's going to give me the rest after something happens (for his/her privacy, I don't put it here). I'm not going to share it. Not because I will trade it or because I'm a hoarder. Because I know that this is something of value for this user, and it later will be shared. I only write this to show my grattitude about what you do. |
Mercuryman12 20.01.2015 23:17 |
BETA215 wrote:What exactly happened?brians wig wrote: Just For You. THANK YOU for your consideration in this matter and also to everyone else who has promised not to upload it yet. It WILL appear soon. The plan was for the 5th of November last year, but I couldn't get a vinyl company to commit to a low print run and I'd decided to give it until 5th November this year to try and sort something out before sharing it, but obviously plans have now changed. Please allow me a little while to rescue some use from this recording before I upload it myself.Keep calm. An internet friend of mine (who isn't an active QueenZone user in the comments, but he/she download things), shared me the first songs: Procession, NIHere, FatherTS, OBattle and WhiteQ. He said me that he/she's going to give me the rest after something happens (for his/her privacy, I don't put it here). I'm not going to share it. Not because I will trade it or because I'm a hoarder. Because I know that this is something of value for this user, and it later will be shared. I only write this to show my grattitude about what you do. |
BETA215 20.01.2015 23:27 |
Mercuryman12 wrote: What exactly happened? You know that this was a share of a concert, Sheffield 11-5-74, and later brianswig told the uploader that this recording wasn't ready for being in the public? Well, like he explain in his comment, he's trying to make a vinyl press of this recording before sharing it here. So, the uploader deleted the link and only some people could download it. Those people, decided that the best thing to do was not share it, respecting his owner's decision (excepting an internet friend of mine, who shared it with me). I thank the decision of the user to later share it, and not hoard it. |
tomchristie22 21.01.2015 02:14 |
The one time I slacken off on checking the announce forum...
brians wig wrote: Well I think it's fair to say that some fucker has broken a promise not to trade this one. It's mine and I've been trying to get it pressed to bootleg vinyl and CD for a few months rather than release it here first and then see all the german/japanese bootleggers get their shitty little hands on it and make a fuck load of money out of something that isn't theirs. I've even paid for a licence with MCP to do it as well. That's blown now and money wasted.Just do what you were gonna do anyway. A few people got it before it was taken down, but I doubt it was enough for it to feasibly reach any of said second hand bootleggers. |
inu-liger 21.01.2015 02:34 |
Gregsynth wrote:Yeah I'm calling some bluffs here ;)Oscar J wrote: To make it even worse Greg, Freddie hits A4's in both the choruses of Flick Of The Wrist.Taunting me isn't helping!!!!! XD |
Nitroboy 21.01.2015 03:23 |
inu-liger wrote:Gregsynth wrote:Yeah I'm calling some bluffs here ;)Oscar J wrote: To make it even worse Greg, Freddie hits A4's in both the choruses of Flick Of The Wrist.Taunting me isn't helping!!!!! XD Oh no, he does hit them. He also makes up some new lyrics in "In The Lap Of The Gods... Revisited" |
inu-liger 21.01.2015 03:57 |
Fuck off XD |
tomchristie22 21.01.2015 06:43 |
Nothing can top the Rainbow - 'That's no fool' for the whole coda ;) |
Thistle 21.01.2015 06:48 |
I look forward to BW's bootleg version - hopefully it's not too expensive :) I think calling OP a wanker is a bit harsh if they didn't know. My version of Glasgow '73 was not in wide circulation and BOOM - it was here. What can you do? As I said to BETA in another thread, most things do, eventually - and all the credit goes to the sharer as they have no idea who the original source was. The peril's of trading. Someone will always break the chain. Hopefully we see it in all it's glory soon, from the correct source. |
alberbal12 21.01.2015 07:05 |
Thistleboy1980 wrote: I look forward to BW's bootleg version - hopefully it's not too expensive :) I think calling OP a wanker is a bit harsh if they didn't know. My version of Glasgow '73 was not in wide circulation and BOOM - it was here. What can you do? As I said to BETA in another thread, most things do, eventually - and all the credit goes to the sharer as they have no idea who the original source was. The peril's of trading. Someone will always break the chain. Hopefully we see it in all it's glory soon, from the correct source.I'm waiting this vinyl version too... I hope can be released too!! |
alberbal12 21.01.2015 07:05 |
Edited (Double post) |
Holly2003 21.01.2015 07:12 |
So .... selling bootlegs is fine now? |
aristide1 21.01.2015 10:06 |
Fascination for vinyl comes from the production quality. The homemade work of pittrek on your homemade transfer is not a good recipe when you prepare a vinyl. Assuming the audio is already low quality, at least the production should be professional. Do you want people to enjoy the result, or it's just a desperate fight between the owner and the bootleg companies? |
aristide1 21.01.2015 10:06 |
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The Real Wizard 21.01.2015 10:27 |
Holly2003 wrote: So .... selling bootlegs is fine now?If you read the owner of the tape's explanation and proceed not to use binary thinking - then perhaps yes. |
Holly2003 21.01.2015 11:10 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Oh I see. It's all clear now lol!Holly2003 wrote: So .... selling bootlegs is fine now?If you read the owner of the tape's explanation and proceed not to use binary thinking - then perhaps yes. Incidentally, is he the owner of the content of the tape? Does he own the copyright? Is he licensed to sell it by Queen productions? |
The Real Wizard 21.01.2015 12:54 |
Holly2003 wrote:Considering he said he's giving a copy of the tape to Brian, maybe you should ask to clarify such details before making yourself look like a fool.The Real Wizard wrote:Oh I see. It's all clear now lol! Incidentally, is he the owner of the content of the tape? Does he own the copyright? Is he licensed to sell it by Queen productions?Holly2003 wrote: So .... selling bootlegs is fine now?If you read the owner of the tape's explanation and proceed not to use binary thinking - then perhaps yes. |
people on streets 21.01.2015 13:36 |
brians wig wrote:linkBarry Durex wrote:Well, the bootleg companies are going to make a shit load of money out of this and I'm sorry, but I don't see why they should benefit and I don't. I was hoping to try and beat the bootleggers a bit first and, like I said, I'd been in touch with MCP, told them the situation and they said I could buy a licence which would allow me to have copies made. Being a vinyl freak, I wanted to do 50 vinyls, but that's proving difficult to do in the UK.brians wig wrote: It's mine and I've been trying to get it pressed to bootleg vinyl and CD for a few months... I've even paid for a licence with MCP to do it as well. That's blown now and money wasted.Not sure if this sounds very moral even if it is legal in your part of the world. I'm sorry if I don't sound very sympathetic. Good luck. Make nice artwork. :) |
people on streets 21.01.2015 13:48 |
brians wig wrote: I've even paid for a licence with MCP to do it as well.Wich license did you get? This one? link Interesting stuff. Isn't Queen productions owner of the played music? Even if they didn't own or make the recording, aren't they the legal owner of the musical performance? That's how it works in my country. PM me if you like. I'm very interested in the legal aspects of all this. Good luck with all. |
The Real Wizard 21.01.2015 14:15 |
people on streets wrote: Isn't Queen productions owner of the played music? Even if they didn't own or make the recording, aren't they the legal owner of the musical performance?Short answer - no. Licensing and publishing issues remain, however, as QP own the songs themselves. But there is no special monopoly on that particular recording of them unless they own the master copy themselves. So as long as the LPs are distributed for free (or perhaps even just the cost of production), there should be no real legal issues. So if anyone is going to vilify someone for pressing LPs like this so that bootleggers can't make a quick buck off them, then they might as well be going after every 14 year old who uploads an iPhone video of the Jonas Brothers to YouTube that they filmed last night, because that is ultimately no different. Otherwise we wouldn't want them to sound hypocritical or anything... |
people on streets 21.01.2015 14:43 |
The Real Wizard wrote: So if anyone is going to vilify someone for pressing LPs like this so that bootleggers can't make a quick buck off them, then they might as well be going after every 14 year old who uploads an iPhone video of the Jonas Brothers to YouTube that they filmed last night, because that is ultimately no different. Otherwise we wouldn't want them to sound hypocritical or anything...Thanks for the answer. It all depends on the money being made from the product that is released. Those 14 year olds don't earn money from their youtube uploads. I can't imagine that the Bootleg LP's will be handed out freely or at costprice. |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 21.01.2015 14:44 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Legal aspects of this are different in each country.people on streets wrote: Isn't Queen productions owner of the played music? Even if they didn't own or make the recording, aren't they the legal owner of the musical performance?Short answer - no. Licensing and publishing issues remain, however, as QP own the songs themselves. But there is no special monopoly on that particular recording of them unless they own the master copy themselves. So as long as the LPs are distributed for free (or perhaps even just the cost of production), there should be no real legal issues. So if anyone is going to vilify someone for pressing LPs like this so that bootleggers can't make a quick buck off them, then they might as well be going after every 14 year old who uploads an iPhone video of the Jonas Brothers to YouTube that they filmed last night, because that is ultimately no different. Otherwise we wouldn't want them to sound hypocritical or anything... Queen owns the publishing rights of their music in what form ever. Some countries disagree on this fact : like Italy were bootlegging was legal in some sort of form. Many bootleg cd were released in Italy during the 90's end 90's they stopped this due a change of this law. In australia it was legal to sell unauthorised cd's as long as they printed "umauthorised" on it. No- one can access the legal rights to any reproduction of Queens lyrics, sound , image or what so ever with the purpose of making money out of this. These things are very well written down at a Swiss legal company. |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 21.01.2015 14:44 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Legal aspects of this are different in each country.people on streets wrote: Isn't Queen productions owner of the played music? Even if they didn't own or make the recording, aren't they the legal owner of the musical performance?Short answer - no. Licensing and publishing issues remain, however, as QP own the songs themselves. But there is no special monopoly on that particular recording of them unless they own the master copy themselves. So as long as the LPs are distributed for free (or perhaps even just the cost of production), there should be no real legal issues. So if anyone is going to vilify someone for pressing LPs like this so that bootleggers can't make a quick buck off them, then they might as well be going after every 14 year old who uploads an iPhone video of the Jonas Brothers to YouTube that they filmed last night, because that is ultimately no different. Otherwise we wouldn't want them to sound hypocritical or anything... Queen owns the publishing rights of their music in what form ever. Some countries disagree on this fact : like Italy were bootlegging was legal in some sort of form. Many bootleg cd were released in Italy during the 90's end 90's they stopped this due a change of this law. In australia it was legal to sell unauthorised cd's as long as they printed "umauthorised" on it. No- one can access the legal rights to any reproduction of Queens lyrics, sound , image or what so ever with the purpose of making money out of this. These things are very well written down at a Swiss legal company. |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 21.01.2015 14:46 |
Oh and BW when you want to make a vinyl or a pressed cd pm me or contact me through Facebook |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 21.01.2015 14:46 |
Oh and BW when you want to make a vinyl or a pressed cd pm me or contact me through Facebook |
people on streets 21.01.2015 14:51 |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! wrote: These things are very well written down at a Swiss legal company.Wich one? Do you have a link to the document? |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 21.01.2015 14:52 |
"Licensing and publishing issues remain, however, as QP own the songs themselves. But there is no special monopoly on that particular recording of them unless they own the master copy themselves. " Remember them re-selling the bootlegs at the top100 bootleg project? Those were direct rips of those bootlegs |
BETA215 21.01.2015 15:04 |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! wrote: Remember them re-selling the bootlegs at the top100 bootleg project? Those were direct rips of those bootlegs Including the long-awaited Montreal 1981 concert as a bootleg. LOL |
Holly2003 21.01.2015 17:30 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Wow it doesn't take much for you to start firing the insults off. So what did I do to deserve your wrath this time your lordship?Holly2003 wrote:Considering he said he's giving a copy of the tape to Brian, maybe you should ask to clarify such details before making yourself look like a fool.The Real Wizard wrote:Oh I see. It's all clear now lol! Incidentally, is he the owner of the content of the tape? Does he own the copyright? Is he licensed to sell it by Queen productions?Holly2003 wrote: So .... selling bootlegs is fine now?If you read the owner of the tape's explanation and proceed not to use binary thinking - then perhaps yes. |
inu-liger 21.01.2015 17:32 |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! wrote:Remember them re-selling the bootlegs at the top100 bootleg project? Those were direct rips of those bootlegsWhich was notably controversial for the fact some of the bootlegs used lossy sources, thus they were selling transcoded quality product. At least this marked the first and only time to date that "Hangman" (among a few other live rarities) was officially released by QPL in some form :-) |
moonie 21.01.2015 18:01 |
Holly2003 wrote:Yes, that did seem a little snappy didn't it? Come on Bob.. Your one of the good guys here.. Holly made a valid point.The Real Wizard wrote:Wow it doesn't take much for you to start firing the insults off. So what did I do to deserve your wrath this time your lordship?Holly2003 wrote:Considering he said he's giving a copy of the tape to Brian, maybe you should ask to clarify such details before making yourself look like a fool.The Real Wizard wrote:Oh I see. It's all clear now lol! Incidentally, is he the owner of the content of the tape? Does he own the copyright? Is he licensed to sell it by Queen productions?Holly2003 wrote: So .... selling bootlegs is fine now?If you read the owner of the tape's explanation and proceed not to use binary thinking - then perhaps yes. |
BETA215 21.01.2015 22:15 |
Freddie hits G3 in Killer Queen (CARRY ON cigarettes), and he hits A#3 (slightly cracking) in RECOMMENDED at the price, finishing with a weird wanna try, but ending in the studio note. And also Roger hits D#4 in the beggining (I WANT YOOOu) And yes, there's a bass solo, provided by Mr. Wizard (weird, no? Giving that he's a guitar man). I know Gregsynth like this things. ;) If you want more, just tell me. |
Saint Jiub 21.01.2015 23:23 |
BW's "wait 'til next year" after I bootleg 50 LPs" is a smoke screen. He will not share Sheffield. Full stop. He will however blacklist and attempt to humiliate anyone who shares "HIS" masterpiece. That is the Fanthology mode of operation: Promise to share, but never deliver. I love the hypocracy of Fanthology and their ilk. Whine if a "Mexican" won't share, but call out the cavalry if someone shares something forbidden by Fanthology. |
tero! 48531 21.01.2015 23:29 |
Holly2003 wrote:Well, you did question the trader's right to profit from something he had no part in writing, performing, or even recording... On QZ that's one of the worst offences. :/The Real Wizard wrote:Wow it doesn't take much for you to start firing the insults off. So what did I do to deserve your wrath this time your lordship?Holly2003 wrote:Considering he said he's giving a copy of the tape to Brian, maybe you should ask to clarify such details before making yourself look like a fool.The Real Wizard wrote:Oh I see. It's all clear now lol! Incidentally, is he the owner of the content of the tape? Does he own the copyright? Is he licensed to sell it by Queen productions?Holly2003 wrote: So .... selling bootlegs is fine now?If you read the owner of the tape's explanation and proceed not to use binary thinking - then perhaps yes. |
tero! 48531 21.01.2015 23:41 |
Panchgani wrote: BW's "wait 'til next year" after I bootleg 50 LPs" is a smoke screen. He will not share Sheffield. Full stop.Of course he's telling the truth. Sort of. Step one: He makes as many "exclusive trades" as possible, to profit as much as possible in the trading circles. Step two: He sells the limited LP pressing of the show, and gets money out of it ($20 x 50 pcs is a thousand $'s, but bootleggers always press more copies than they claim). Step three: Simultaneously with the LP pressing starts the regular trading of the show. The money's already in the bank, so it doesn't matter when the show starts the spread out to the "wrong people" and you also get poorer trades. Step four: The show is posted on QZ for free download (when it doesn't any have any potential for making money or trades), and the uploader is portrayed as a hero who selflessly published a rare bootleg recording, and didn't gain anything from it. |
tero! 48531 22.01.2015 00:02 |
Online record-pressing quotes for a batch of 300 vinyls are at $1200, or $4 per disc. When a bootlegger says he's making it "at cost" means that with the official run of 50 copies he's getting back the $1200 (at $25 each), and the other 250 copies are sold at profit. As long as you don't number the editions in any way (or sell each series from a different outlet and claim the others are ripoffs!), nobody will ever know whether you're selling 50 copies or 500 copies of the same product. |
tcc 22.01.2015 01:25 |
I think many people forget that there is such a thing as a pirate copy. All music sellers suffer the same woes - one copy is sold and many copies are made and shared free of charge. |
tcc 22.01.2015 01:26 |
Sorry double post. When I press post message, the screen shows page not found. So I press back arrow to get back to the post reply page and press post message again. Result : double post. |
BETA215 22.01.2015 01:30 |
^ It says "page not found" because this thread is called "no subject". I mean, it doesn't have a proper name. But it gets published, as usual. |
Thistle 22.01.2015 05:38 |
tcc wrote: Sorry double post. When I press post message, the screen shows page not found. So I press back arrow to get back to the post reply page and press post message again. Result : double post.the simple solution is not to backspace. Just let the page say "not found" and carry on as usual. Hope others realise this before I think I'm seeing double ;) |
tomchristie22 22.01.2015 05:44 |
BETA215 wrote: Freddie hits G3 in Killer Queen (CARRY ON cigarettes), and he hits A#3 (slightly cracking) in RECOMMENDED at the price, finishing with a weird wanna try, but ending in the studio note. And also Roger hits D#4 in the beggining (I WANT YOOOu) And yes, there's a bass solo, provided by Mr. Wizard (weird, no? Giving that he's a guitar man).Caviar and cigarettes is the line :) That's cool - as far as we knew, the 19th or 20th was the only time he did the weird note choices on 'Wanna try'. I guess he was doing it frequently at that specific point (late 1974). You sure about Roger hitting a D# (E flat)? That would be out of key, his correct note is a D. And what do you mean by a bass solo? |
master marathon runner 22.01.2015 06:19 |
"CARRY on cigarettes"! - haha. |
tomchristie22 22.01.2015 06:25 |
Cigarettes in one's carry-on luggage, I guess? |
Nitroboy 22.01.2015 06:40 |
Keep in mind that BETA215 is using C3 as Middle C - it confused me at first, but he is right though! |
tomchristie22 22.01.2015 07:55 |
Ah yeah, you're right. My questions still make sense anyway |
BETA215 22.01.2015 12:02 |
Sorry for the confusion. Where I live, people use the European notation. I used as a reference, for the name of the note, an online piano. And well, I was thinking in Bo Rhap when making the sentence (but it still fits!). X) |
Nitroboy 22.01.2015 12:25 |
Roger's A5s in "In The Lap Of The Gods" are beautiful though |
BETA215 22.01.2015 12:35 |
^ If we're talking about the same concert and song, it's quite out of tune. Maybe you're talking about the "Revisited..." version? |
Chief Mouse 22.01.2015 14:02 |
Seems like quite a few people got this. I'll be patient and wait for mr Brians Wig to officially post this some day. |
BETA215 22.01.2015 14:33 |
Chief Mouse wrote: Seems like quite a few people got this. I'll be patient and wait for mr Brians Wig to officially post this some day. He will post it after pressing the vinyls, surely after November of this year. |
The Real Wizard 22.01.2015 14:40 |
Panchgani wrote: He will not share Sheffield. Full stop. That is the Fanthology mode of operation: Promise to share, but never deliver.Sigh. These things have been explained countless times, and obviously cannot be comprehended by your double digit IQ. If it weren't for the people in the fanthology, and people of "their ilk" - your collection of unreleased music would be about 99% smaller than it is. You, on the other hand, have contributed nothing. Zero. Nada. Just complaining and trolling those who do. If you don't like it - then change it. Find a rare tape, digitize it, and show us what a wonderful, generous and hard-working person you are. But obviously YOU won't be doing that, will you ? Of course not. It's easier to sit on your soapbox and spew your ignorance and straw man arguments towards those who do, which is why you'll continue to do just that. |
The Real Wizard 22.01.2015 14:51 |
moonie wrote:Nowhere did BW say he was intending on selling these LPs at a price higher than their cost, or whether or not QP would be receiving royalties from said sales if that were the case.Holly2003 wrote:Yes, that did seem a little snappy didn't it? Come on Bob.. Your one of the good guys here.. Holly made a valid point.The Real Wizard wrote:Wow it doesn't take much for you to start firing the insults off. So what did I do to deserve your wrath this time your lordship?Holly2003 wrote:Considering he said he's giving a copy of the tape to Brian, maybe you should ask to clarify such details before making yourself look like a fool.The Real Wizard wrote:Oh I see. It's all clear now lol! Incidentally, is he the owner of the content of the tape? Does he own the copyright? Is he licensed to sell it by Queen productions?Holly2003 wrote: So .... selling bootlegs is fine now?If you read the owner of the tape's explanation and proceed not to use binary thinking - then perhaps yes. Holly's post wasn't a series of genuine questions. They were a character assassination trip coming from a place of bitterness towards music collectors because, along with his compadre Panchgani, they possess an astounding ignorance of where unreleased music comes from (despite such details having been spoonfed to them on numerous occasions) and a sense of entitlement to receive them as they please. Until BW says otherwise, my point stands. |
Holly2003 22.01.2015 15:30 |
What a load of crap. You're the one doing the character assassination and you are the one displaying the hypocritical double standards. Your moral compass is as wonky as Christopher Lambert's Scottish accent. |
The Real Wizard 22.01.2015 15:51 |
As always, a well reasoned argument. |
brians wig 22.01.2015 15:54 |
Actually Panchgani, it's got fuck all to do with Fanthology, though I'm sure it's fair to say that their members will include people who have brought rarities to the table in the past and shared them freely here and elsewhere. Oh, and I didn't say "wait until next year". I said my plan was to release it LAST year on the 40th Anniversary, but it all went tits up (and would have been overshadowed by Rainbow 74 anyway), so I WAS going to share it THIS November instead. Obviously those plans will have to be brought forwards now, but we're talking weeks not months. I do NOT want to become a bootlegger and make thousands of pounds, but even the simplest person can understand that if I want a pressed CD (or even better a vinyl of this recording), then I'm damned if I'm going to have to pay some rip-off bootleg company for the privilage of buying my own recording and seeing THEM make thousands out of it. As for the License. I approached MCPS, told them what the deal was and asked where I stood. THEY told me to buy a licence and which one to buy. And yes, so long as I'm not selling them to make a blatent profit, it's okay to make a few. I'm part of a collective of people who collect Queen bootleg vinyls and it would be nice to let them all have a copy at cost price rather than pay the Bootleggers silly money. It's taking money OUT of the hands of the bootleggers and that's called "beating the bastards". I want people to have copies of this on pressed CDs or vinyl without them having to pay £60+ (for a CD!) to the known bootleg companies, because lets face it, as soon as it hits QZ properly, the fuckers are going to download it for free, brick wall the sound, press numerous copies and flog em at silly prices to make enormous profit because there are people out there who will ALWAYS want a "proper" copy, not a CDR. |
The Real Wizard 22.01.2015 16:02 |
The facts. They burn. And now, back to our regularly scheduled program of trolling.. |
Nitroboy 22.01.2015 16:32 |
BETA215 wrote: ^ If we're talking about the same concert and song, it's quite out of tune. Maybe you're talking about the "Revisited..." version?No, the A5s aren't from the "Revisited" version, they never have been ;) |
Barry Durex 22.01.2015 17:47 |
Chief Mouse wrote: Seems like quite a few people got this. I'll be patient and wait for mr Brians Wig to officially post this some day.Until then listen to the taunts of all the clever bastards who got it. What a bunch of fuckwits. Ok, next no fly zone (check with your sources) no share status release should be:- Hyde Park '76 cinefilm & Inglewood '77 Master Wait for it........ |
Saint Jiub 22.01.2015 21:49 |
brians wig wrote: Oh, and I didn't say "wait until next year". I said my plan was to release it LAST year on the 40th Anniversary, but it all went tits up (and would have been overshadowed by Rainbow 74 anyway), so I WAS going to share it THIS November instead. Obviously those plans will have to be brought forwards now, but we're talking weeks not months. ... So is it fair to estimate that LP's and CD's will be pressed by April, and available for download by ordinary fans by June? ... Or that you will provide an update if circumstances change? |
Saint Jiub 22.01.2015 22:17 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Sigh. These things have been explained countless times, and obviously cannot be comprehended by your double digit IQ.You, on the other hand, have contributed nothing. Zero. Nada. Just complaining and trolling those who do. It's easier to sit on your soapbox and spew your ignorance and straw man arguments towards those who do, which is why you'll continue to do just that. ... http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1056817.html I have not shared anything since 2007 when I shared Chicago '82 low Gen in Flac (for the first time on QZ). ... and in mp3. The mp3 share and half of the flac "mysteriously disappeared" from Megaupload shortly after I uploaded them (due to multiple copyright complaints). Before that I was the first to share Houston 77 (audio only) on QZ, and I conducted a bootleg tree before that. I have not downloaded and transferred to CDR anything since Boston 76 and Sun City 84 were first shared in 2009. So you should have no worrys about me leeching from QZ. |
The Real Wizard 23.01.2015 01:33 |
Panchgani wrote: I shared Chicago '82 low Gen in Flac (for the first time on QZ).But you didn't unearth the tape. It was posted on Dimeadozen long before it was here. Creating a torrent of something that's already made the rounds doesn't hold a candle to actually searching for and locating old tapes and digitizing them with care. Before that I was the first to share Houston 77 (audio only) on QZAfter someone else uploaded the DVD and you (or someone) did a rip. Therefore these weren't contributions of anything new - you were passing along things that were already circulating. You don't know who is responsible for getting those tapes out originally, because you've never bothered to take the time to figure out how these things work. But some of us do - they were found by the very people you continue to demonize in threads like this. Are you getting the point yet? |
inu-liger 23.01.2015 02:21 |
Panchgani, you're really grasping at straws here. Even I've done much much more in the 'original upload' department over the last few years despite having nearly fuck all to do with the underground collecting scene in terms of genuine uncirculated material, and all you seem to have done so far is just take someone else's work and reupload it almost as if you're trying to misappropriate it as your own work somehow. Go back to the drawing board, please. |
brians wig 23.01.2015 06:23 |
Barry Durex wrote: Ok, next no fly zone (check with your sources) no share status release should be:- Hyde Park '76 cinefilm & Inglewood '77 Master Wait for it........Hyde park 76 cine was bought from auction at a cost of over £800. Why SHOULD it be shared for free here? And yes, if someone DID leak that after promising not to, then you're damn right the owner would have every right to kick off. |
Saint Jiub 23.01.2015 08:59 |
The Real Wizard wrote:...Panchgani wrote: I shared Chicago '82 low Gen in Flac (for the first time on QZ).But you didn't unearth the tape. It was posted on Dimeadozen long before it was here. Creating a torrent of something that's already made the rounds doesn't hold a candle to actually searching for and locating old tapes and digitizing them with care.Before that I was the first to share Houston 77 (audio only) on QZAfter someone else uploaded the DVD and you (or someone) did a rip. Therefore these weren't contributions of anything new - you were passing along things that were already circulating. You don't know who is responsible for getting those tapes out originally, because you've never bothered to take the time to figure out how these things work. But some of us do - they were found by the very people you continue to demonize in threads like this. Are you getting the point yet? Why do you continue sharing with 90%+ of QZ "do-nothings" that have never uploaded anything "original"? At that time in 2007, Houston 77 was the holy grail for ordinary QZ'ers. There were many requests for Houston 77 but these requests were repeatedly greeted with "I have it - You can't" from many traders. I mentioned on QZ that I wished I could purchase Houston 77 for $50. ONE trader took pity on me and gave it to me and said I could share it on QZ. Regarding Chicago 82, I had purchased several items for this same sympathetic trader at a Queen Breakthru convention, and he gave me Chicago '82 and said I could share it on QZ. I uploaded Chicago '82 in Flac to Megaupload and the Flac links were DELETED due to multiple complaints of copyright infringement. I have not downloaded and transferred to CDR any recordings since 2009 when Boston 76 and Sun City 84 were made available to QueenZone, so you can rest easy knowing I will not "leeching" anything from QZ. Also, I never got involved in trading because its "politics". |
Saint Jiub 23.01.2015 11:08 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Panchgani wrote: I shared Chicago '82 low Gen in Flac (for the first time on QZ).But you didn't unearth the tape. It was posted on Dimeadozen long before it was here. Creating a torrent of something that's already made the rounds doesn't hold a candle to actually searching for and locating old tapes and digitizing them with care.Before that I was the first to share Houston 77 (audio only) on QZAfter someone else uploaded the DVD and you (or someone) did a rip. Therefore these weren't contributions of anything new - you were passing along things that were already circulating. You don't know who is responsible for getting those tapes out originally, because you've never bothered to take the time to figure out how these things work. But some of us do - they were found by the very people you continue to demonize in threads like this. Are you getting the point yet? |
Saint Jiub 23.01.2015 11:48 |
Why do you continue sharing with 90%+ of QZ "do-nothings" that have never uploaded anything "original"? At that time in 2007, Houston 77 was the holy grail for ordinary QZ'ers. There were many requests for Houston 77 but these requests were repeatedly greeted with "I have it - You can't" from many traders. I mentioned on QZ that I wished I could purchase Houston 77 for $50. ONE trader took pity on me and gave it to me and said I could share it on QZ. Regarding Chicago 82, I had purchased several items for this same sympathetic trader at a Queen Breakthru convention, and he gave me Chicago '82 and said I could share it on QZ. I uploaded Chicago '82 in Flac to Megaupload and the Flac links were DELETED due to multiple complaints of copyright infringement. I have not downloaded and transferred to CDR any recordings since 2009 when Boston 76 and Sun City 84 were made available to QueenZone, so you can rest easy knowing I am not "leeching" anything from QZ. Also, I never got involved in trading because its "politics". |
Saint Jiub 23.01.2015 11:51 |
Why do you continue sharing with 90%+ of QZ "do-nothings" that have never uploaded anything "original"? At that time in 2007, Houston 77 was the holy grail for ordinary QZ'ers. There were many requests for Houston 77 but these requests were repeatedly greeted with "I have it - You can't" from many traders. I mentioned on QZ that I wished I could purchase Houston 77 for $50. ONE trader took pity on me and gave it to me and said I could share it on QZ. Regarding Chicago 82, I had purchased several items for this same sympathetic trader at a Queen Breakthru convention, and he gave me Chicago '82 and said I could share it on QZ. I uploaded Chicago '82 in Flac to Megaupload and the Flac links were DELETED due to multiple complaints of copyright infringement. I have not downloaded and transferred to CDR any recordings since 2009 when Boston 76 and Sun City 84 were made available to QueenZone, so you can rest easy knowing I will not "leeching" anything from QZ. Also, I never got involved in trading because its "politics". |
Holly2003 23.01.2015 12:40 |
I'm just tuning in for what I hope is the next edition of Bob's Daily Holly Horoscope. What am I going to say or do next Bob? Should I make any plans for the weekend? |
Gregsynth 23.01.2015 12:42 |
If you don't have plans, Holly: link I just shared a performance! You'll love it! |
people on streets 23.01.2015 14:07 |
What is the lineage of Sheffield 74? It sounds like a master tape. Or maybe a very low gen. Is it me or are there microclicks between the tracks? Great quality! |
Marknow 23.01.2015 14:21 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Panchgani wrote: I shared Chicago '82 low Gen in Flac (for the first time on QZ).But you didn't unearth the tape. It was posted on Dimeadozen long before it was here. Creating a torrent of something that's already made the rounds doesn't hold a candle to actually searching for and locating old tapes and digitizing them with care.Before that I was the first to share Houston 77 (audio only) on QZAfter someone else uploaded the DVD and you (or someone) did a rip. Therefore these weren't contributions of anything new - you were passing along things that were already circulating. You don't know who is responsible for getting those tapes out originally, because you've never bothered to take the time to figure out how these things work. But some of us do - they were found by the very people you continue to demonize in threads like this. Are you getting the point yet? + 1 |
brians wig 24.01.2015 06:43 |
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BETA215 24.01.2015 08:02 |
^ If it's an error, edit your comment and write what you want to say. If that's not the case, forget it. |
tomchristie22 24.01.2015 08:11 |
Perhaps he wrote something abrasive and then removed it. This has actually gotten fairly interesting - I didn't realise things like Houston 77 which are freely available now were so hard to come by at a time which seems not that long ago (though 2007 really is a long time ago now). |
Thistle 24.01.2015 09:53 |
I tried to get Houston (video) way back in 1999, but the asking price was £150. Quality was great, but I was at uni so had other priorities. Glad I waited ;) |
The Real Wizard 24.01.2015 18:29 |
tomchristie22 wrote: Perhaps he wrote something abrasive and then removed it. This has actually gotten fairly interesting - I didn't realise things like Houston 77 which are freely available now were so hard to come by at a time which seems not that long ago (though 2007 really is a long time ago now).The complete show first leaked in 2004 - but it was many generations from the master, with a green tint to it. Before then, most people would've killed to see it. All we had was 35 minutes of average quality audio and a few video clips from documentaries. |
tomchristie22 24.01.2015 18:46 |
Aha. Where did the full 2004 version actually come from? |
people on streets 25.01.2015 10:06 |
What is the lineage of Sheffield 74? It sounds like a master tape. Or maybe a very low gen. Is it me or are there microclicks between the tracks? Great quality! |
dysan 25.01.2015 11:52 |
What is the tracklisting for this gig? Any nice surprises? Bummed I missed it, but interested to read this thread. |
Nitroboy 25.01.2015 11:58 |
dysan wrote: What is the tracklisting for this gig? Any nice surprises? Bummed I missed it, but interested to read this thread.The set-list is the same as all of the others. No surprises. |
dysan 25.01.2015 12:01 |
I can pass in that case. Good quality though I assume? |
people on streets 25.01.2015 12:22 |
dysan wrote: What is the tracklisting for this gig? Any nice surprises? Bummed I missed it, but interested to read this thread.google cache is your friend... |
dysan 25.01.2015 15:53 |
Say whaaat |
Nitroboy 25.01.2015 16:58 |
The quality is nice, it sounds a bit distant though. |
BETA215 25.01.2015 21:47 |
people on streets wrote:dysan wrote: What is the tracklisting for this gig? Any nice surprises? Bummed I missed it, but interested to read this thread.google cache is your friend... Google Cache shows the same content. You lost this: link. An audio recording of that concert, I think. |
Ozz 25.01.2015 22:06 |
BETA215 wrote:You have to google the exact url ( wink ;) ) . is out therepeople on streets wrote:Google Cache shows the same content. You lost this: link. An audio recording of that concert, I think.dysan wrote: What is the tracklisting for this gig? Any nice surprises? Bummed I missed it, but interested to read this thread.google cache is your friend... |
BETA215 25.01.2015 22:12 |
Ozz wrote:BETA215 wrote:You have to google the exact url ( wink ;) ) . is out therepeople on streets wrote:Google Cache shows the same content. You lost this: http://www.queenlive.ca/queen/74-11-05.htm. An audio recording of that concert, I think.dysan wrote: What is the tracklisting for this gig? Any nice surprises? Bummed I missed it, but interested to read this thread.google cache is your friend... link |
The Real Wizard 25.01.2015 23:18 |
The Real Wizard wrote:And, as expected, "Just For You" has disappeared into the wind after being given a fair and rational proposition.Just For You wrote: I won't name my source so as not to cause any further bad feeling, however this was in no way an attempt to break trust or "troll" (as some other person has suggested"). I will not be back. I had many, many great things to share, but am worried about an unwelcome impact now.1) Sure, don't name names here, but you absolutely should tell Brian's Wig who your source is. The original tape is his, and he deserves to know who betrayed his trust. The chain can be traced, and you can help if you choose to. 2) No need to cut and run. If you say you have more things, then check with your sources to make sure that they're OK to be shared. If you didn't know that this Sheffield recording was a no fly zone, then how can you be sure that all of these other supposed things you possess have the same no-share status? This person obviously knew exactly what they were doing. Otherwise, why would an anonymous new user (with a Robinhood type name) join a forum only for this purpose? |
inu-liger 26.01.2015 01:57 |
Who wants to bet it was Dave R Fuller behind that? Scumbags be scumbagging, after all... |
musicland munich 26.01.2015 02:16 |
Very entertaining...like the gig...I guess. Just give BW the option to get his money back.Meanwhile nobody should share this one. End of it. |
musicland munich 26.01.2015 02:17 |
double post |
BETA215 26.01.2015 02:28 |
musicland munich wrote: Meanwhile nobody should share this one.The thing is that the concert is starting to circulate amongst the users, I think. It isn't in the Sharing forum, but is between the users. I might be wrong, but that's what I think it's happening. |
tomchristie22 26.01.2015 02:40 |
Indeed, the cached version of the first page doesn't go back quite far enough to have the download link. |
brians wig 26.01.2015 03:14 |
Like I said, give it a few weeks or so folks and it will be reposted. I just want to get some pressed Cds/vinyls made of it and sold at cost price to bootleg collectors I know BEFORE the real bootlegging firms get hold of it and make a killing out of it themselves. |
BETA215 26.01.2015 03:38 |
brians wig wrote: Like I said, give it a few weeks or so folks and it will be reposted. I just want to get some pressed Cds/vinyls made of it and sold at cost price to bootleg collectors I know BEFORE the real bootlegging firms get hold of it and make a killing out of it themselves. Can I ask you something? Aside the recording of this concert, why do you want to press a digital recording in a vinyl? I know the vinyl has his sound and all of that, but his sound starts from a analogic recording. I can't see the logic there. It's like the Rainbow vinyl, which is sourced from a digital source. |
people on streets 26.01.2015 04:42 |
tomchristie22 wrote: Indeed, the cached version of the first page doesn't go back quite far enough to have the download link.link |
BETA215 26.01.2015 05:06 |
people on streets wrote:tomchristie22 wrote: Indeed, the cached version of the first page doesn't go back quite far enough to have the download link. People on streets: if you want to respect owner's desition, please delete your link. |
Mercuryman12 26.01.2015 05:17 |
How did this whole fiasco start? |
Mercuryman12 26.01.2015 05:17 |
Edit double post |
brians wig 26.01.2015 05:34 |
people on streets wrote:For fucks sake.tomchristie22 wrote: Indeed, the cached version of the first page doesn't go back quite far enough to have the download link.link Everyone else has requested my wishes to keep this private for the time being for reasons stated here a few times, yet you don't seem to give a shit. PLEASE remove this link! |
BETA215 26.01.2015 05:39 |
brians wig wrote:brians wig, we were trying to find the content of the post before being deleted, but not the download link working.people on streets wrote:tomchristie22 wrote: Indeed, the cached version of the first page doesn't go back quite far enough to have the download link.For fucks sake. Everyone else has requested my wishes to keep this private for the time being for reasons stated here a few times, yet you don't seem to give a shit. PLEASE remove this link! Some people here give a shit about it. Calm down, I'm sure people on streets it's going to delete it after reading your comment. PS: Remove the link from the quote. |
brians wig 26.01.2015 05:39 |
BETA215 wrote:Well. The digital file was made from my tape so...brians wig wrote: Like I said, give it a few weeks or so folks and it will be reposted. I just want to get some pressed Cds/vinyls made of it and sold at cost price to bootleg collectors I know BEFORE the real bootlegging firms get hold of it and make a killing out of it themselves.Can I ask you something? Aside the recording of this concert, why do you want to press a digital recording in a vinyl? I know the vinyl has his sound and all of that, but his sound starts from a analogic recording. I can't see the logic there. It's like the Rainbow vinyl, which is sourced from a digital source. But the tape runs slow and needed speeding up. It also needed a bit of EQ, so pressing from a digital file is the only option. As for vinyl. Well, I want this concert on vinyl for personal reasons, more than any other concert, and I know many other vinyl collectors will too. |
Mercuryman12 26.01.2015 05:42 |
brians wig wrote:Too late got the link and will be downloading later! I may share it!people on streets wrote:For fucks sake. Everyone else has requested my wishes to keep this private for the time being for reasons stated here a few times, yet you don't seem to give a shit. PLEASE remove this link!tomchristie22 wrote: Indeed, the cached version of the first page doesn't go back quite far enough to have the download link.link |
BETA215 26.01.2015 05:46 |
Mercuryman12 wrote: Too late got the link and will be downloading later! I may share it! Why Mercuryman12? Why? Don't share it, PLEASE. brians wig will share it later. Why you are so excited about it?! It's the same as Rainbow but in a different place. The same setlist. The same band. The same clichés. Why? |
Mercuryman12 26.01.2015 05:47 |
BETA215 wrote:To make a point that bootlegs are meant to be shared free. Buying a shitty vinyl transfer is not worth itMercuryman12 wrote: Too late got the link and will be downloading later! I may share it!Why Mercuryman12? Why? Don't share it, PLEASE. brians wig will share it later. Why you are so excited about it?! It's the same as Rainbow but in a different place. The same setlist. The same band. The same clichés. Why? |
BETA215 26.01.2015 05:49 |
Mercuryman12 wrote:BETA215 wrote:To make a point that bootlegs are meant to be shared free. Buying a shitty vinyl transfer is not worth itMercuryman12 wrote: Too late got the link and will be downloading later! I may share it!Why Mercuryman12? Why? Don't share it, PLEASE. brians wig will share it later. Why you are so excited about it?! It's the same as Rainbow but in a different place. The same setlist. The same band. The same clichés. Why? That isn't going to be a bootleg! He is going to press some vinyls for him and his friends, and then share the concert here! It's so difficult to understand it?! |
brians wig 26.01.2015 05:51 |
link |
Mercuryman12 26.01.2015 05:51 |
BETA215 wrote:Still he may have given it to QP who may go out to try to snatch the bootleg upMercuryman12 wrote:That isn't going to be a bootleg! He is going to press some vinyls for him and his friends, and then share the concert here! It's so difficult to understand it?!BETA215 wrote:To make a point that bootlegs are meant to be shared free. Buying a shitty vinyl transfer is not worth itMercuryman12 wrote: Too late got the link and will be downloading later! I may share it!Why Mercuryman12? Why? Don't share it, PLEASE. brians wig will share it later. Why you are so excited about it?! It's the same as Rainbow but in a different place. The same setlist. The same band. The same clichés. Why? |
BETA215 26.01.2015 05:57 |
Mercuryman12 wrote:BETA215 wrote:Still he may have given it to QP who may go out to try to snatch the bootleg upMercuryman12 wrote:That isn't going to be a bootleg! He is going to press some vinyls for him and his friends, and then share the concert here! It's so difficult to understand it?!BETA215 wrote:To make a point that bootlegs are meant to be shared free. Buying a shitty vinyl transfer is not worth itMercuryman12 wrote: Too late got the link and will be downloading later! I may share it!Why Mercuryman12? Why? Don't share it, PLEASE. brians wig will share it later. Why you are so excited about it?! It's the same as Rainbow but in a different place. The same setlist. The same band. The same clichés. Why? And what's the problem? If he wants to make money out of HIS recording, what's the problem? It's something illegal? NO. (cause it isn't a bootleg!) |
Mercuryman12 26.01.2015 06:00 |
BETA215 wrote:Don't some bootlegs have the phrase. Don't make a profit from this? It doesn't matter I've shared it and now people can get it and enjoy it without dealing with BEMercuryman12 wrote:And what's the problem? If he wants to make money out of HIS recording, what's the problem? It's something illegal? NO. (cause it isn't a bootleg!)BETA215 wrote:Still he may have given it to QP who may go out to try to snatch the bootleg upMercuryman12 wrote:That isn't going to be a bootleg! He is going to press some vinyls for him and his friends, and then share the concert here! It's so difficult to understand it?!BETA215 wrote:To make a point that bootlegs are meant to be shared free. Buying a shitty vinyl transfer is not worth itMercuryman12 wrote: Too late got the link and will be downloading later! I may share it!Why Mercuryman12? Why? Don't share it, PLEASE. brians wig will share it later. Why you are so excited about it?! It's the same as Rainbow but in a different place. The same setlist. The same band. The same clichés. Why? |
brians wig 26.01.2015 06:03 |
Mercuryman12 Read the entire thread and you'll see why i don't want it leaked yet. Unless of course, you are happy for the big bootleg firms like Wardour and Tarantura to make their own copies (as they ALWAYS do) and sell them to those people who like to have pressed CDs and vinyls as opposed to CD-R copies. This will inevitably happen, but I want to have some pressed myself (and I'm not talking hundreds or thousands) so that as many of those collectors as possible can have a copy at cost price instead of paying the extortionate rip-off prices charged by the bootleg companies. Did you know a Wardour CD set tends to sell for about £60? £60! Chuff me. WHY should anyone make a shit load of money from bootlegs, especially when they've just ripped off the recording form a website like this? DO YOU UNDERSTAND why I'm trying to keep this under the radar for the moment????? Even the person who posted it understands that and they removed the link! YOU might not be interested in vinyls or pressed discs, but other people are. As for QP snatching bootlegs. They've never done it yet. Are you somehow worried that if bootlegs hit the market first and get 'snatched' by QP, this recording will never surface? |
Mercuryman12 26.01.2015 06:07 |
brians wig wrote: Mercuryman12 Read the entire thread and you'll see why i don't want it leaked yet. Unless of course, you are happy for the big bootleg firms like Wardour and Tarantura to make their own copies (as they ALWAYS do) and sell them to those people who like to have pressed CDs and vinyls as opposed to CD-R copies. This will inevitably happen, but I want to have some pressed myself (and I'm not talking hundreds or thousands) so that as many of those collectors as possible can have a copy at cost price instead of paying the extortionate rip-off prices charged by the bootleg companies. Did you know a Wardour CD set tends to sell for about £60? £60! Chuff me. WHY should anyone make a shit load of money from bootlegs, especially when they've just ripped off the recording form a website like this? DO YOU UNDERSTAND why I'm trying to keep this under the radar for the moment????? Even the person who posted it understands that and they removed the link! YOU might not be interested in vinyls or pressed discs, but other people are. As for QP snatching bootlegs. They've never done it yet. Are you somehow worried that if bootlegs hit the market first and get 'snatched' by QP, this recording will never surface?To late what's done is done. People will enjoy this when THEY want to not when YOU want to |
Nitroboy 26.01.2015 06:10 |
Mercuryman - You're an asshole. |
tomchristie22 26.01.2015 06:13 |
At least have some respect for the person who shared it in the first place, and his wishes. It is a piece of history, so in that sense, in a perfect world, we'd all be able to access it. But that just isn't how it works - the recording belongs to Brian's Wig, it's his choice what he does with it, and if we're to be decent people then we'll try our best to also maintain his wishes regarding how it's publicised. |
BETA215 26.01.2015 06:19 |
Reported to YourValentine. I never thought that I had to do that, but like you said: Too late. What's done is done. |
brians wig 26.01.2015 06:25 |
You still don't get it do you? You've just put the recording firmly in the hands of the big bootlegging firms who will now make shit loads of money out of people who otherwise could have got a pressed CD or vinyl a lot cheaper. Wow. How selfish are you? There's an old saying: "Don't bite the hand that feeds" and I've helped feed this community since it started, what, nearly 15 years ago now is it, and lots of people here are aware of that and appreciate it as you will see if you read this whole thread. By flaunting complete disregard for a fellow members' request to hold off for just a few weeks, I can see a lot of other people who have also fed this community will now be keeping their recordings/rarities to themselves. How's that for a result then? |
dysan 26.01.2015 06:28 |
Totally on brains wig side here. I got bitten by Fuller and I just stopped sharing straight away. |
BETA215 26.01.2015 06:29 |
brians wig wrote: You still don't get it do you? You've just put the recording firmly in the hands of the big bootlegging firms who will now make shit loads of money out of people who otherwise could have got a pressed CD or vinyl a lot cheaper. Wow. How selfish are you? There's an old saying: "Don't bite the hand that feeds" and I've helped feed this community since it started, what, nearly 15 years ago now is it, and lots of people here are aware of that and appreciate it as you will see if you read this whole thread. By flaunting complete disregard for a fellow members' request to hold off for just a few weeks, I can see a lot of other people who have also fed this community will now be keeping their recordings/rarities to themselves. How's that for a result then? Thanks to god, when you enter to the mediafire link, a message appears: "The owner of this folder has not added any files.". You will press the vinyls! |
people on streets 26.01.2015 06:45 |
brians wig wrote:I've done a google search. Everyone can do that. Don't blame me for knowing how to use google cache. Blame the original uploader...people on streets wrote:For fucks sake. Everyone else has requested my wishes to keep this private for the time being for reasons stated here a few times, yet you don't seem to give a shit. PLEASE remove this link!tomchristie22 wrote: Indeed, the cached version of the first page doesn't go back quite far enough to have the download link.link |
inu-liger 26.01.2015 06:57 |
Nitroboy wrote: Mercuryman - You're an asshole. |
Mercuryman12 26.01.2015 11:56 |
Anyone have the show? If so would you please send it to me? |
inu-liger 26.01.2015 12:20 |
Go fuck yourself |
Gregsynth 26.01.2015 12:22 |
I think he's honestly screwing around Inuliger - he posted the blank Mediafire URL on another thread to have some fun. |
Mercuryman12 26.01.2015 12:27 |
Gregsynth wrote: I think he's honestly screwing around Inuliger - he posted the blank Mediafire URL on another thread to have some fun.I was! It was a joke but the sentiment I made about bootlegs being free was true. Inu-liger get a sense of humor |
inu-liger 26.01.2015 14:27 |
Mercuryman12 wrote:Ever since the huge bullshit with Dave R Fuller and the way he irreparably threw the Fanthology project under the bus, I have no humour when it comes to stunts like this (*with the exception of obvious April Fool's Day pranks)Gregsynth wrote: I think he's honestly screwing around Inuliger - he posted the blank Mediafire URL on another thread to have some fun.I was! It was a joke but the sentiment I made about bootlegs being free was true. Inu-liger get a sense of humor You're a dickhead. Plain and simple. |
Mercuryman12 26.01.2015 14:59 |
inu-liger wrote:Thank you for at least being honest in your opinionMercuryman12 wrote:Ever since the huge bullshit with Dave R Fuller and the way he irreparably threw the Fanthology project under the bus, I have no humour when it comes to stunts like this (*with the exception of obvious April Fool's Day pranks) You're a dickhead. Plain and simple.Gregsynth wrote: I think he's honestly screwing around Inuliger - he posted the blank Mediafire URL on another thread to have some fun.I was! It was a joke but the sentiment I made about bootlegs being free was true. Inu-liger get a sense of humor |
inu-liger 26.01.2015 16:48 |
Mercuryman12 wrote:No probleminu-liger wrote:Thank you for at least being honest in your opinionMercuryman12 wrote:Ever since the huge bullshit with Dave R Fuller and the way he irreparably threw the Fanthology project under the bus, I have no humour when it comes to stunts like this (*with the exception of obvious April Fool's Day pranks) You're a dickhead. Plain and simple.Gregsynth wrote: I think he's honestly screwing around Inuliger - he posted the blank Mediafire URL on another thread to have some fun.I was! It was a joke but the sentiment I made about bootlegs being free was true. Inu-liger get a sense of humor |
tero! 48531 26.01.2015 23:32 |
brians wig wrote: You still don't get it do you? You've just put the recording firmly in the hands of the big bootlegging firms who will now make shit loads of money out of people who otherwise could have got a pressed CD or vinyl a lot cheaper. Wow. How selfish are you? There's an old saying: "Don't bite the hand that feeds" and I've helped feed this community since it started, what, nearly 15 years ago now is it, and lots of people here are aware of that and appreciate it as you will see if you read this whole thread. By flaunting complete disregard for a fellow members' request to hold off for just a few weeks, I can see a lot of other people who have also fed this community will now be keeping their recordings/rarities to themselves. How's that for a result then?If you really wanted to just press therecording for you own (and your friends use), it wouldn't matter a bit whether it was already already released by another bootlegger. It sure as hell wouldn't be the first bootleg to be pressed by multiple companies! The truth is, you want to make money out of it. Maybe not as much as the other bootleggers, but you still wanted to profit from somebody else's compositions, performed by somebody else, and recorded by somebody else. I won't be crying over your lost profits, and I don't think a lot of other people will either. |
tero! 48531 26.01.2015 23:40 |
I suppose this is just the peak of the iceberg. In addition to the shows that can't be released to the public, there are also shows that cannot be traded forward, and probably even shows that you aren't allowed to listen to once you've traded them. I guess some of you are trading with files of garbage data (which supposedly are encrypted), and can only be opened at a later date... |
tero! 48531 26.01.2015 23:42 |
BETA215 wrote: Reported to YourValentine. I never thought that I had to do that, but like you said: Too late. What's done is done."Officer officer! I was mugged after a hard day of pickpocketing! Can you please get me my money back?!" |
BETA215 27.01.2015 00:15 |
tero! 48531 wrote: "Officer officer! I was mugged after a hard day of pickpocketing! Can you please get me my money back?!" Officer: "Yes fuckin' faggot. Get out of here." I've learnt to laugh of myself. |
inu-liger 27.01.2015 01:18 |
Anyways BW, whenever you get the vinyls pressed, please let me know. I'll purchase a copy. |
BETA215 27.01.2015 01:21 |
inu-liger wrote: Anyways BW, whenever you get the vinyls pressed, please let me know. I'll purchase a copy.Do you like this concert? |
inu-liger 27.01.2015 01:22 |
BETA215 wrote:;)inu-liger wrote: Anyways BW, whenever you get the vinyls pressed, please let me know. I'll purchase a copy.Do you like this concert? |
The Real Wizard 27.01.2015 01:40 |
brians wig wrote: There's an old saying: "Don't bite the hand that feeds" and I've helped feed this community since it started, what, nearly 15 years ago now is it, and lots of people here are aware of that and appreciate it as you will see if you read this whole thread. By flaunting complete disregard for a fellow members' request to hold off for just a few weeks, I can see a lot of other people who have also fed this community will now be keeping their recordings/rarities to themselves. How's that for a result then?^ this. Isn't it interesting that every person who doesn't understand what you're saying also happens to be someone who hasn't contributed anything new to this place themselves. Funny that. The takers are obviously the experts on this matter. Continue, trolls. Continue. |
BETA215 27.01.2015 02:11 |
I'm not a troll, but I'm going to continue. This is the link where, I think, brianswig sells the original cassette: link And for the trolls: yes. There he uploaded a sample proving the recording is real. Enjoy it. And he also sells that cine reel (8mm film) containing an audience recording of Hyde Park: link |
tero! 48531 27.01.2015 02:13 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Isn't it interesting that every person who doesn't understand what you're saying also happens to be someone who hasn't contributed anything new to this place themselves. Funny that. The takers are obviously the experts on this matter. Continue, trolls. Continue.Just out of curiosity, which posters do you consider as trolls? Do you think that e.g. I'm a troll, or do you think that I make valid points about this situation and the traders/bootleggers? |
BETA215 27.01.2015 02:18 |
tero! 48531 wrote:The Real Wizard wrote: Isn't it interesting that every person who doesn't understand what you're saying also happens to be someone who hasn't contributed anything new to this place themselves. Funny that. The takers are obviously the experts on this matter. Continue, trolls. Continue.Just out of curiosity, which posters do you consider as trolls? Do you think that e.g. I'm a troll, or do you think that I make valid points about this situation and the traders/bootleggers? I think he made it quite clear. It don't need to be cleared. |
tero! 48531 27.01.2015 02:42 |
BETA215 wrote: I think he made it quite clear. It don't need to be cleared.Err.. No, he didn't make it clear. He made a general statement, apparently implicating everyone who disagrees with him. Surely that isn't the case, though? |
BETA215 27.01.2015 02:52 |
tero! 48531 wrote:Err... Yes. He made it quite clear.BETA215 wrote: I think he made it quite clear. It don't need to be cleared.Err.. No, he didn't make it clear. He made a general statement, apparently implicating everyone who disagrees with him. Surely that isn't the case, though? He didn't made a very general statement. He is talking about all those people who never gave nothing to the Queen community, and now are complaining. You fit perfectly in that group. Please, learn to read and comprehend. |
tero! 48531 27.01.2015 03:22 |
BETA215 wrote: Err... Yes. He made it quite clear. He didn't made a very general statement. He is talking about all those people who never gave nothing to the Queen community, and now are complaining. You fit perfectly in that group. Please, learn to read and comprehend.I did read, and he actually writes about takers who never giver nothing to the community. On the other hand I don't download the shows, and give to the community e.g. by pointing out the unwritten motivations of people. (Whether you want them to be pointed out or not is a matter of opinion...) |
BETA215 27.01.2015 04:01 |
Seriously mate, you are tiring me. Anyway, it isn't THAT important if you don't download the shows. The thing is that he was referring to you and another crazy little boy, the two users that are exhaustingly bothering Briana and me, at least. Tell me, all you crazy QueenZoners out there. I'm right? Or not? |
people on streets 27.01.2015 10:16 |
BETA215 wrote: I'm not a troll, but I'm going to continue. This is the link where, I think, brianswig sells the original cassette: link And for the trolls: yes. There he uploaded a sample proving the recording is real. Enjoy it. And he also sells that cine reel (8mm film) containing an audience recording of Hyde Park: linkWhat if a Japanese bootleg company buys it? Oh wait... The hypocrisy in this topic is stunning. |
people on streets 27.01.2015 10:28 |
To Brian's Wig: If you sell an unreleased / uncirculated recording fine. Sell it. Forget about it. Don't circulate copies. EVER. The buyer is the new owner. By selling you've lost your ownership and the power to do with this recording whatever you want. If you trade an uncirculated recording, and thus bring it in circulation, don't try to sell it as unreleased / uncirculated. It's not! |
people on streets 27.01.2015 10:34 |
BETA215 wrote: And he also sells that cine reel (8mm film) containing an audience recording of Hyde Park: linkOnce again, google cache is your friend: link |
people on streets 27.01.2015 11:09 |
And Sheffield 1974: link |
Mercuryman12 27.01.2015 11:15 |
Will someone send me the show! Please I cant take all of you talking about it! Please |
eYe 27.01.2015 11:41 |
So, what's this now? The auctions removed from ebay right after they were mentioned here makes me believe brians wig himself tried to sell the items. And I don't get why he can't still press or burn the recording even though it was already shared freely. Imho the only reason would be loosing customers/profit. Someone please explain this to me. I managed to download the recording from the op btw. For now I won't give it to anybody, but I might simply upload my files just to stop this. |
inu-liger 27.01.2015 12:06 |
Mercuryman12 wrote: Will someone send me the show! Please I cant take all of you talking about it! PleaseAfter the stunt you pulled?? You're an absolute Gerry-like loony if you think ANYONE is going to trust you at this point. |
people on streets 27.01.2015 12:07 |
eYe wrote: The auctions removed from ebay right after they were mentioned here makes me believe brians wig himself tried to sell the items. And I don't get why he can't still press or burn the recording even though it was already shared freely. Imho the only reason would be loosing customers/profit. Someone please explain this to me.I think you explained it pretty well yourself. |
Mercuryman12 27.01.2015 12:09 |
inu-liger wrote:
Mercuryman12 wrote:
Will someone send me the show! Please I cant take all of you talking about it! Please
After the stunt you pulled?? You're an absolute Gerry-like loony if you think ANYONE is going to trust you at this point. It was a joke! |
Nitroboy 27.01.2015 12:10 |
You're terrible at making jokes |
Gregsynth 27.01.2015 12:12 |
This is a circus! |
Mercuryman12 27.01.2015 12:15 |
Nitroboy wrote: You're terrible at making jokes Ive noticed that! |
BETA215 27.01.2015 12:24 |
Gregsynth wrote: This is a circus! This is the worst circus I've ever been. |
Mercuryman12 27.01.2015 12:25 |
BETA215 wrote:
Gregsynth wrote: This is a circus!
This is the worst circus I've ever been. You can end it with a single download! |
BETA215 27.01.2015 12:51 |
Mercuryman12 wrote: BETA215 wrote: Gregsynth wrote: This is a circus! This is the worst circus I've ever been. You can end it with a single download! Sadly, no. It gonna be worst. |
Oscar J 27.01.2015 12:52 |
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Mercuryman12 27.01.2015 12:53 |
BETA215 wrote:Please send it to me Beta!Mercuryman12 wrote: BETA215 wrote: Gregsynth wrote: This is a circus!This is the worst circus I've ever been. You can end it with a single download! Sadly, no. It gonna be worst. |
Oscar J 27.01.2015 12:54 |
http://www.thefrisky.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/25/330x182px-LL-7dc6c095_micheal-jackson-eating-popcorn-theater-gif.gif |
BETA215 27.01.2015 12:54 |
Mercuryman12 wrote:BETA215 wrote:Please send it to me Beta!Mercuryman12 wrote: BETA215 wrote: Gregsynth wrote: This is a circus!This is the worst circus I've ever been. You can end it with a single download! Sadly, no. It gonna be worst. You told me bad things. You hurted my feelings. |
Mercuryman12 27.01.2015 12:55 |
BETA215 wrote:It was Google translate! I was trying to speak Spanish because I saw you had in the past.Mercuryman12 wrote:You told me bad things. You hurted my feelings.BETA215 wrote:Please send it to me Beta!Mercuryman12 wrote: BETA215 wrote: Gregsynth wrote: This is a circus!This is the worst circus I've ever been. You can end it with a single download! Sadly, no. It gonna be worst. |
BETA215 27.01.2015 13:12 |
Don't try to excuse things you can't. Our thing is gone. Forget me. |
Mercuryman12 27.01.2015 13:13 |
BETA215 wrote: Don't try to excuse things you can't. Our thing is gone. Forget me.No darling it was a faulty translation don't forget what we had over that. What we had was magic! |
BETA215 27.01.2015 13:16 |
Mercuryman12 wrote:BETA215 wrote: Don't try to excuse things you can't. Our thing is gone. Forget me.No darling it was a faulty translation don't forget what we had over that. What we had was magic! Now I'm not your darling! Fucking bastard! What we had was kids! And you don't support them! Fucking faggot! Fuck off! I don't want you in my life. |
Mercuryman12 27.01.2015 13:18 |
BETA215 wrote:We need to stop fighting for them! They need us and fighting won't help themMercuryman12 wrote:Now I'm not your darling! Fucking bastard! What we had was kids! And you don't support them! Fucking faggot! Fuck off! I don't want you in my life.BETA215 wrote: Don't try to excuse things you can't. Our thing is gone. Forget me.No darling it was a faulty translation don't forget what we had over that. What we had was magic! |
Chief Mouse 27.01.2015 13:18 |
:S |
moonie 27.01.2015 13:20 |
Jesus.. |
Mercuryman12 27.01.2015 13:21 |
moonie wrote: Jesus..They performed that in Uraguay 1983! |
moonie 27.01.2015 13:22 |
I've got that on a C90.. I'm not allowed to share it though.. |
Mercuryman12 27.01.2015 13:23 |
moonie wrote: I've got that on a C90.. I'm not allowed to share it though..LOL! |
Mercuryman12 27.01.2015 13:42 |
I found a penny! With this new good luck I expect to get this show soon! |
inu-liger 27.01.2015 14:30 |
You know, guys, I have it on very good authority that Freddie and Roger are having an off night on this one. You might just want to temper your expectations on this one and not make it yet another case of the "Hangman" or "Face It Alone" |
Oscar J 27.01.2015 14:48 |
Yup, plenty of sour notes on there. Some standout bits here and there, but Rainbow is a far better listen overall. |
Mercuryman12 27.01.2015 14:49 |
Oscar J wrote: Yup, plenty of sour notes on there. Some standout bits here and there, but Rainbow is a far better listen overall.Does not change the fact that I want it |
brians wig 27.01.2015 15:45 |
eYe wrote: So, what's this now? The auctions removed from ebay right after they were mentioned here makes me believe brians wig himself tried to sell the items. And I don't get why he can't still press or burn the recording even though it was already shared freely. Imho the only reason would be loosing customers/profit. Someone please explain this to me. I managed to download the recording from the op btw. For now I won't give it to anybody, but I might simply upload my files just to stop this.Ebay removed them, not me. How that works I have no idea bearing mind other people have sold reel to reel tapes bought in auction before now. Maybe someone reported the listings the Ebay? I figured if my recording was about to become well and truly public and the bootleg companies were going to rip it off, I might as well give them the chance to buy the master tape first. Sadly Ebay have put an end to that particular avenue, so the chances are I'll end up paying someone else for a bootleg of my own tape! Actually, I'm more bothered about who betrayed my trust and leaked it in the first place. Quite frankly this whole state of affairs doesn't currently inspire me to share anything else ever again. |
inu-liger 27.01.2015 16:33 |
How much do you want for the tape, BW? |
BETA215 27.01.2015 16:41 |
inu-liger wrote: How much do you want for the tape, BW? Price: GBP 500.00 Approximately US $751.28 |
people on streets 27.01.2015 16:47 |
inu-liger wrote: How much do you want for the tape, BW?Why would you want it? |
BETA215 27.01.2015 16:56 |
people on streets wrote:inu-liger wrote: How much do you want for the tape, BW?Why would you want it? He never said that he wants it. He only wanted to know the price of this cassette. Nothing more, nothing less. |
Holly2003 27.01.2015 17:24 |
This thread is priceless. And one or two people have gone very quiet ... |
inu-liger 27.01.2015 19:23 |
Holly2003 wrote: This thread is pricelessFor everything else, there's Mastercard |
Saint Jiub 27.01.2015 19:59 |
I am so glad I forgot about QZ last night, and missed the heat of the battle. Thus, I had a very pleasant evening. I propose a toast to Monkberry, who leaked the FM & MJ duet "State of Shock" about 10 years ago, and was subsequently blacklisted and vilified (similarly to David Fuller) by the elite traders. Unfortunately, ten years later, "Victory" never leaked ... |
BETA215 27.01.2015 20:07 |
David R. Fuller is actually selling a fake: the IsTTWorldWeC piano demo. Also he is selling some files you can download in my demos collection. Lil' bastard. |
brunogorski 27.01.2015 20:33 |
Holy Mercury, this thread is a monster! It has own life! Woah. o-o |
inu-liger 27.01.2015 21:09 |
BETA215 wrote:You clearly haven't read through the "Reaction acetate" / Dave R Fuller threads then ;)Gregsynth wrote: This is a circus!This is the worst circus I've ever been. |
Mercuryman12 27.01.2015 21:11 |
inu-liger wrote:Link? I need something to read when Im boredBETA215 wrote:You clearly haven't read through the "Reaction acetate" / Dave R Fuller threads then ;)Gregsynth wrote: This is a circus!This is the worst circus I've ever been. |
BETA215 27.01.2015 21:19 |
Was It All Worth It! |
tomchristie22 27.01.2015 21:26 |
Mercuryman, it seems pretty clear to me that you shared the mediafire link and then realised the files themselves had been removed. You seemed very intent on sharing it regardless of Brian's Wig's intentions; you said it was because you believed we all had a right to it. If it was meant to be a joke, it was a bizarre one, and not particularly funny. Seems to me you told us you were just joking once you realised you didn't actually have access to the recording like you thought you did.
Oscar J wrote: Yup, plenty of sour notes on there. Some standout bits here and there, but Rainbow is a far better listen overall.Roger sings badly here and there, but I think Freddie sounds strong overall. It was probably a stronger night than the 19th and 20th were if we consider the amount of post-improvement on the Rainbow merge. It's a worthwhile listen to hear the few unique moments, anyway, e.g. great version of Flick of the Wrist like previously mentioned, Freddie sings 'But I can't help it' rather than 'do it' on Lap of the Gods...Revisited, Freddie sings 'What more can I do' on Lap of the Gods, an octave down from how it sounds on the album, whereas he otherwise always just held the word 'gods' from the previous line and didn't sing this one. |
tero! 48531 27.01.2015 23:25 |
brians wig wrote: Well, the bootleg companies are going to make a shit load of money out of this and I'm sorry, but I don't see why they should benefit and I don't. I was hoping to try and beat the bootleggers a bit first and, like I said, I'd been in touch with MCP, told them the situation and they said I could buy a licence which would allow me to have copies made. Being a vinyl freak, I wanted to do 50 vinyls, but that's proving difficult to do in the UK.There's nothing stopping you from pressing the record for you and your friends. The only thing that has changed is the amount of money you can make out of it, now that the show is available from other sources as well. Make a batch of 300 copies of the bootleg, advertise them from "any price you want to pay, actual production costs $5". To get your money back you only need to sell 50 copies for $25 each. If anything, that will seriously undermine the position of the other bootleggers, when you can sell the same product for fraction of the cost. Are you in it to release it, or are you in it to make a profit?? |
Saint Jiub 27.01.2015 23:27 |
BETA215 wrote: David R. Fuller is actually selling a fake: the IsTTWorldWeC piano demo. Also he is selling some files you can download in my demos collection. Lil' bastard. ... How is this different from BW selling bootlegs? I thought selling multiple copies of something in the trading world was a cardinal sin. |
Oscar J 28.01.2015 02:50 |
tomchristie22 wrote: Roger sings badly here and there, but I think Freddie sounds strong overall. It was probably a stronger night than the 19th and 20th were if we consider the amount of post-improvement on the Rainbow merge. It's a worthwhile listen to hear the few unique moments, anyway, e.g. great version of Flick of the Wrist like previously mentioned, Freddie sings 'But I can't help it' rather than 'do it' on Lap of the Gods...Revisited, Freddie sings 'What more can I do' on Lap of the Gods, an octave down from how it sounds on the album, whereas he otherwise always just held the word 'gods' from the previous line and didn't sing this one. Yes, there's a nice embellishment on the "before you die" line in FTS too. |
brians wig 28.01.2015 04:55 |
tero! 48531 wrote: Are you in it to release it, or are you in it to make a profit??It's all about timing. Once the audio is out (and I thank everyone for NOT posting it publically even if some of you are inevitably sharing it privately), the bootleg firms are already geared up to get on with it. I think it's been proven that people can't wait and they'll just go pay silly money for rather than wait for me to get some done and be restricted by the length of time it takes a company to make them. Getting something pressed in England isn't something you can do in a week. I also have a life that takes up a lot of time. I think it's inevitable that the bootleggers will get there before me, in which case, what's the point. I may as well buy a copy of my own tape. I really don't need nor want to get sucked down by this whole experience and get stressed or depressed by it. What's done is done. |
tero! 48531 28.01.2015 06:27 |
brians wig wrote:The main things of course is that you don't get depressed (or bakrupt) because of release, but I'm fairly sure you could manage to sell 50 copies at $25 each and cover your actual costs of the release, and people would wait a few weeks to save 50%.tero! 48531 wrote: Are you in it to release it, or are you in it to make a profit??It's all about timing. Once the audio is out (and I thank everyone for NOT posting it publically even if some of you are inevitably sharing it privately), the bootleg firms are already geared up to get on with it. I think it's been proven that people can't wait and they'll just go pay silly money for rather than wait for me to get some done and be restricted by the length of time it takes a company to make them. Getting something pressed in England isn't something you can do in a week. I also have a life that takes up a lot of time. I think it's inevitable that the bootleggers will get there before me, in which case, what's the point. I may as well buy a copy of my own tape. I really don't need nor want to get sucked down by this whole experience and get stressed or depressed by it. What's done is done. I think that If you publicly scrap the idea of pressing your own low-cost bootleg for you and your friends, you'll prove once and for all that you only cared about the money anyway. |
Gregsynth 28.01.2015 06:45 |
I'm not taking sides on this - but this thread is just crazy! |
Mercuryman12 28.01.2015 19:37 |
Bump |
inu-liger 28.01.2015 20:22 |
Seriously Tero, do you ever have anything positive to contribute to this website instead of always attacking people and being such a snarky asshole all the time? |
Saint Jiub 28.01.2015 23:03 |
He consistently calls out the elite collectors on their hypocrisy. Just like me and one other person with sharp wit. You have not yet crushed all dissent. It could be worse ... at least he does not repeatedly encourge people to kill themselves. You, with your depression history should know better. |
tero! 48531 28.01.2015 23:12 |
inu-liger wrote: Seriously Tero, do you ever have anything positive to contribute to this website instead of always attacking people and being such a snarky asshole all the time?I don't attack people. I write very direct messages with valid points, which happen to contradict with your opinions. If you have a specific example you're concerned with, I'll be happy to discuss it with you. (Publicly or privately.) |
brians wig 29.01.2015 03:56 |
tero! 48531 wrote: I think that If you publicly scrap the idea of pressing your own low-cost bootleg for you and your friends, you'll prove once and for all that you only cared about the money anyway.Erm. If I only cared about the money, surely I would still have some bootlegs made and sell them for a bit more than cost. No one in England wants to make 50 copies. They all want to do a minimum of 100 but charge for minimum of 1000 covers! One company quoted me nearly £5000 for 100 vinyls. That still doesn't detract from the fact that the bootlegging firms who are geared up for this will now have a copy of the concert and I'm sure they'll already be working on getting it out. I can't even approach one of them now with my copy and get 5 free CD presses back as payment (which is how Wardour and Tarantura work). I may as well walk away and not have the hassle and let it bother me. |
tero! 48531 29.01.2015 05:00 |
It literally took me a less than a minute to google a website, and fill out the details in a calculator which gives me a quote of $1200 for the minimum order of 300 finished 12" vinyls in plain sleeves. (Or double the price with jackets.) Don't tell me that £50 per disc is the lowest quote you can find. |
Mercuryman12 29.01.2015 05:06 |
Bump |