ANAGRAMER 10.01.2015 12:26 |
Am I alone in thinking he's finally flipped? |
7thStranger 10.01.2015 13:36 |
They both have. Maybe John will let us hide in his basement. |
mooghead 10.01.2015 14:42 |
He is just so utterly fucking boring these days. Does he expect his fans to become vegetarians and vote Green now?! The guy is on a different planet. |
EDWOOD 10.01.2015 19:43 |
The minute he mentioned Owen Jones as someone we should read on his website I knew he has finally lost the plot. Seems he wants to be a right-on political celebrity - something that Queen never gave a shit about (rightly) throughout their career. |
Mercuryman12 10.01.2015 19:55 |
EDWOOD wrote: The minute he mentioned Owen Jones as someone we should read on his website I knew he has finally lost the plot. Seems he wants to be a right-on political celebrity - something that Queen never gave a shit about (rightly) throughout their career.You can't judge what he thinks. Peoples ideas change as they get older. Brian is an example going from a hard rock guitarist to a aging hippie who plays guitar with his much more interesting friend once and awhile |
tomchristie22 10.01.2015 22:53 |
Well, I don't know much about the current political climate in the UK, but everything he said in the video about democracy and fair representation of the population seemed pretty reasonable to me. |
people on streets 11.01.2015 00:14 |
mooghead wrote: He is just so utterly fucking boring these days. Does he expect his fans to become vegetarians and vote Green now?! The guy is on a different planet.I agree. To make it worse: vegan. |
tomchristie22 11.01.2015 01:44 |
mooghead wrote: Does he expect his fans to become vegetarians and vote Green now?! The guy is on a different planet.He said at the start that encouraging people to become vegetarians WASN'T his point. He used the Green party as an example of a party that couldn't get in regardless of the amount of votes they get, because of the way the system's set up - he's criticising the system, and at no point does he say 'so vote Green'. Seriously, it seems like you picked out two things you thought sounded dumb without actually paying attention to the sentences they were in. |
ANAGRAMER 11.01.2015 02:20 |
^^ Yeah. It seems to be the system that's getting his blood boiled and that smaller political parties have no influence Not sure here that I want a guy in sandals in charge of the UK... I think Brian is hitting his head on a brick wall; from here is Scotland, it seems that the rUK is lurching to the right which is only going to make matters worse....heaven forbid that the government will meet in a pub car park with a fag in one hand and a pint in the other.... |
ANAGRAMER 11.01.2015 02:25 |
tomchristie22 wrote: Well, I don't know much about the current political climate in the UK, but everything he said in the video about democracy and fair representation of the population seemed pretty reasonable to me.Yeah, does seem reasonable but the 'first past the post' system in the UK is designed to stop small interest groups having any real influence. The PR system works in Scotland and took us to the brink of independence which is fair enough but, in rU! if right wing groups have influence I would worry... I don't think Brian had thought this through |
mooghead 11.01.2015 02:41 |
tomchristie22 wrote: Well, I don't know much about the current political climate in the UK, but everything he said in the video about democracy and fair representation of the population seemed pretty reasonable to me.Durr... of course its reasonable, its what everyone wants, but it aint gonna happen. Come the election I will be exercising my right to not vote. |
tomchristie22 11.01.2015 03:23 |
Ah okay. Thanks for explaining, all. |
Pingfah 11.01.2015 04:43 |
The British people were handed the opportunity to reform the voting system on a plate in 2011, We had a fucking national referendum on whether to change our voting system to one that would give fair representation to all parties, and guess what? We voted against it, because collectively we are a bunch of gullible idiots who can be persuaded to vote against.our best interests by dangling a half eaten carrot in front of our faces. He should not waste his time, the British electorate are a bunch of morons. We deserve everything we get. |
QueenTwo 11.01.2015 06:09 |
God I think Brian has totally flipped now, he's so much on a different planet now with all his opinions and by mostly his music sense. call it a day brian and hang up that guitar - stop digging a deeper hole for yourself - And for me a long time queen fan since day 1 kya 1973 - You have turned Queen into a circus now when I look at any footage which I try and avoid - it looks just like something made up from the x factor........ Hopefully one day you will wake up and see this for yourself. I admit Brian still has the great queen guitar sound but that's it.....rest is a money making rock'n'pop circus |
matt z 11.01.2015 07:25 |
Pingfah. Please elucidate me on the situation regarding an open opportunity to change the voting standard in the UK. In the U.S. such a thing called the "popular vote" is precluded by the state vote which tallies preference within a state (typically) and votes accordingly. Each state garners a FULL TOTAL vote of the number of ELECTORAL COLLEGE votes each state has been given. This is why politicians pander to states where they rarely generate anything meaningful for. A third party vote would have to generate an abundance within each state in order to even generate an electoral college The number of eligible voters voting for a particular candidate doesn't count if the state 's favor favors one particular party. Therefore 3rd party candidates have no presence in the HOR(house of representatives; representatives given per state according to population) or the SENATE (*2 arbitrary representatives given to each state) 3rd party candidacy tends to be frowned upon because it takes AWAY votes from other parties (the only two seemingly eligible: democratic and republican) and sways their position in the forthcoming congress. How is the British/ UK different? Please, I'm asking because I DO NOT KNOW and a thorough web article might not reflect the value of an actual constituent's perspective |
Costa86 11.01.2015 07:47 |
I'd prefer if the Greens got a few extra seats in Parliament rather than that good orator but fucking bafoon, Nigel Farage and his party of pseudo-right arseholes. |
master marathon runner 11.01.2015 08:05 |
,,/Bufoon |
The King Of Rhye 11.01.2015 08:37 |
matt z wrote: Pingfah. Please elucidate me on the situation regarding an open opportunity to change the voting standard in the UK. In the U.S. such a thing called the "popular vote" is precluded by the state vote which tallies preference within a state (typically) and votes accordingly. Each state garners a FULL TOTAL vote of the number of ELECTORAL COLLEGE votes each state has been given.Technically not quite true, Maine and Nebraska go by congressional district.....but that never makes much of a difference...... I always thought the whole Electoral College thing was nonsense......when the result of an election for President can be different from the result of the popular vote! We would have had 3 different Presidents if they had always gone by popular vote...... Maybe if Brian was from the US, he would be railing against that on youtube....... |
Costa86 11.01.2015 10:17 |
Yes, yes, buffoon! Both missed an extra 'f' though. |
7thStranger 11.01.2015 10:22 |
Wait. That's what you people are complaining about? His political beliefs and whether or not he wants people to be vegetarian or vegan? How petty. How about his blatant disrespect for his two former bandmates? That's what's bothering me. |
gerry 11.01.2015 14:36 |
QUEEN2 : I totally agree with your comments on here. What was once a very respectable rock group, has now turned into a a karaoke circus playing Queens greatest hits. Brian and Roger are desperate men now and couldnt give a shit about the Queen legacy and what it will look like in 5 years time when they are in wheelchairs. Money seems to be the factor here. Deacon has my 100% respect , May & Taylor have 50% each! |
The King Of Rhye 11.01.2015 15:04 |
I'm sure Brian and Roger are just so crushed they dont have your full respect..........and oh yeah, they're also sooo desperate for money....... You ever stop to think that maybe, even though YOU dont like what they're doing, maybe, just maybe, Brian, Roger, and Adam are enjoying this? |
QueenTwo 11.01.2015 15:47 |
Gerry, cheers I know a lot of possibly younger fans will just think we are ranting and moaning sons of bitches but I truly cant understand how many hardcore Queen fans can like this - NOT just because of adam - I mean probably in his own right he could be o/k? it's the whole thing it's rubbish, if this was a new band that just came out, x factor winners or something they'de be popular for 1 tour make a load of money for simon then next year no one would want to know them....I'm ashamed to say i'll be working during the Glasgow show - but will be leaving the building and not be going back inside to they're off.That's how much I cant bear them now, be the first time since around 1975 i'll not be watching queen or any members perform live onstage whilst playing in Scotland.... |
tomchristie22 11.01.2015 23:29 |
7thStranger wrote: How about his blatant disrespect for his two former bandmates? That's what's bothering me.Please elaborate on how you think he's disrespecting John and Freddie. All I see is him continuing to play music he made with them, something that Freddie can't do and John doesn't want to do. |
The Real Wizard 12.01.2015 00:26 |
matt z wrote: How is the British/ UK different? Please, I'm asking because I DO NOT KNOW and a thorough web article might not reflect the value of an actual constituent's perspectiveThe British system (which Canada uses too) is completely different from the American system. It isn't much better overall since, at the end of the day, it still only really allows two parties to have power (both Canada and the UK each have three major parties at the moment). Instead of electoral votes there are seats. When a candidate gets the most votes in their riding, they win a seat in parliament. And the party with the most seats becomes the party in power, and the leader of that party becomes Prime Minister. Read that again - we do not elect our PM. There are basically two possible outcomes - a majority of seats and a minority of seats. A majority tends to be a 4 year term, but a minority government can topple at any time. A majority essentially means free reign, but a minority means you always need the support of one of the other parties to keep the system functioning. Or - if the two parties who didn't win have a combined more seats than the party who won, they can join forces and create a coalition. This is how many of the best European countries are run. The UK currently has a coalition too. In a perfect world, this means more constituents (and thus a wider variety of ideas) are represented by the people they elect. Of all the possibilities in democratic systems in this world, this is the best possible outcome, at least on paper. But of course, this isn't always the case.. |
gerry 12.01.2015 04:26 |
yeah there is a lot of disrespect within Queen at the moment, Brian and Roger are carrying on as though Freddie and John are back stage having a rest. Brian now seems to think he is in charge of Queen, and Roger tags along for the ride as its the only thing he can do now. I wish to god this car crash never happened, and i thought Queen were very classy and never let insiders into the Queen machine. Sadly the rot has happened and it will continue as long as Brian lets it. I am glad i have not wasted money on this shit tour. |
Vocal harmony 12.01.2015 06:59 |
^^^^ As usual you're posting facts that are the product of you imagination. The amount of respect in the Queen camp for Freddie is huge, and not just the band members, but the crew too. That feeling spills into the audience every night too BM does not think he's in charge, however the press seem to want to talk to him more than RT, plus the varios social media outlets BM can be found on gives him a more easily found voice. Remember RT has very little interest in being on internet, so there is less to read about him. Lambert has huge respect for the members of Queen including Freddie and the fan base. It's a shame that respect hasn't earned respect from SOME people. RT is not tagging along. Facts the idea for the US dates came from RT. The stage design was based on RT's ideas. The inclusion of the Sheer Heart Attack songs was mainly RT's. At the time the tour was first talked about BM wasn't sure about it and was more into the low key acoustic stuff he was doing with Kerry Ellis. Your point about never letting outsiders into the Queen machine. Queen is not a machine. As for outsiders, they've worked with lots of different people through the years both recorded and live, again learn your facts. And as for your insistent attacks on BM. You don't know him so you're not in a position to make the comments you do. BM was the person who found RT and formed Smile, it was those two who took on the unknown Freddie and formed Queen. So it could be argued that without BM your precious Freddie and the associated memories would never have taken those steps to stardom. BM and RT are keeping the songs and memories alive, the only disrespect in this is the disrespect you openly show. |
KevoM 12.01.2015 07:11 |
I just wish he'd cut his hair to a more dignified 'older person look'! |
tomchristie22 12.01.2015 08:09 |
gerry wrote: I wish to god this car crash never happened, and i thought Queen were very classy and never let insiders into the Queen machine.(Assuming you meant outsiders...) You're so right! They never recorded with ANY other musician in their original run! Except David Bowie, Andy Gibb, Rod Stewart, Michael Jackson, Steve Howe, Roy Thomas Baker, Spike Edney, Fred Mandel, and the orchestra which plays on Who Wants to Live Forever. |
tomchristie22 12.01.2015 08:10 |
KevoM wrote: I just wish he'd cut his hair to a more dignified 'older person look'!What do you care how he wears his hair? This (along with him wearing unfashionable shoes) has to be the most vain criticism of Brian around and I can't believe it's still resorted to. |
gerry 12.01.2015 09:44 |
within Queen the original four members only recorded the odd track with David Bowie and joan armatrading, so hardly a tidal wave of artists, but i was meaning replacing members within Queen, which now makes them un-original line up. please read (Queen2) post, he or she is on the same page as i am. I am not alone in my thoughts and feelings concerning Queen now. |
The Real Wizard 12.01.2015 10:02 |
gerry wrote: please read (Queen2) postYes, your alter ego. We know. |
ludwigs 12.01.2015 10:09 |
gerry wrote: within Queen the original four members only recorded the odd track with David Bowie and joan armatrading,Yeah....the line she spoke.... (tuts) gerry wrote: I am not alone in my thoughts and feelings concerning Queen now.Yes, you have said so many bloody times! We all get it. You don't want to be dis-loyal and say you sorta like it - through fear of other Queen members finding you out and not offering you a place in their inner-circle. |
gerry 12.01.2015 10:47 |
Ha ha now i do not want a place in this inner circle of an asylum l.o.l My feelings for Queen now are very little, but 1971 to 1991 gets my full respect. i am so glad i am not one of the sheep who will be stood watching the Queen karaoke circus tomorrow at Newcastle. Still i am sure we will hear what happened in due course! |
The King Of Rhye 12.01.2015 11:29 |
gerry wrote: I am not alone in my thoughts and feelings concerning Queen now.And neither are those of us who like the current incarnation.....so effing what? I love it when people say a band has no right to go on without original member(s)........so, no AC/DC without Bon, no VH without DLR, no Genesis without Gabriel, no Floyd without Waters (or Barrett!!), no Sabbath without Ozzy, no Who without Moon or Entwistle? I could go on...(I'd say in many of those cases, they were better with the original lineups, but all still made some worthwhile stuff! Yeah, Q+AL havent made any original songs yet, but just maybe....)........also, hell, no Rush without Rutsey, I guess....yeah, no way they'd find a good drummer......... |
gerry 12.01.2015 11:42 |
well talk about leading the lambs for slaughter, you stupid lot ! ha ha ha I bet you lot would jump of a cliff if Brian said freddie approved of it. |
The King Of Rhye 12.01.2015 11:48 |
I was fully prepared to hate the Queen+Adam thing when I first heard of it, but then I listened to some of the early concerts and thought it sounded good.........if I didn't like it, I wouldn't have given a damn what Brian said about it. |
gerry 12.01.2015 11:55 |
Well that is fair enough, if you like the new set great, but i have tried many times but i just can not get into lambert with Queen the set up is odd and there is a hollow atmosphere as if something is a miss. not for me. I am now one of those Beatles fans who remember the good old days, but with with the original line up of Queen. Some things are like unforbidden fruits and Queen are one of them, i personally would not want to see Queen revived because as Brian says in Classic Rock Mag this month, he hopes Queen do not fizzle away! He must know they are now. |
miraclesteinway 12.01.2015 12:14 |
By the way I don't think Brian May has flipped out over this common decency thing. I think he's trying to use his voice to make a difference. At least he's not using his voice to attack other people for trying to make a positive difference. |
The Real Wizard 12.01.2015 12:24 |
gerry wrote: as Brian says in Classic Rock Mag this month, he hopes Queen do not fizzle away! He must know they are now.Yeah, as evidenced by the sell out tour that's starting tomorrow. You can adjust your beliefs to reflect the facts, but you can't adjust the facts to reflect your beliefs. Unless you're a fool. |
*goodco* 12.01.2015 12:25 |
the wall wrote: I am now one of those Beatles fans who remember the good old days, but with with the original line up of Queen.Confused....does this mean you quit listening to The Beatles when they fired Pete Best? The thread is about Brian and his Common Decency comments, not Queen+. Please show some decency of your own, and keep the comments on topic. Thank you. |
The Real Wizard 12.01.2015 12:26 |
miraclesteinway wrote: By the way I don't think Brian May has flipped out over this common decency thing. I think he's trying to use his voice to make a difference. At least he's not using his voice to attack other people for trying to make a positive difference.^ this. Thank you for being a continuous breath of fresh air at this forum. A wise soul once said - if you're not going to make the world a better place, don't stand in the way of those who are. |
gerry 12.01.2015 12:29 |
The Beatles were not very popular with pete best! The same as Queen were not popular with the bass players before john Deacon. To be honest what Brian has done to Queen i do not think he has any common decency. The tour is popular because people are curious and want to see what all the hype is about. Very much doubt Queen will be around in 2 years time with Lambo. |
The Real Wizard 12.01.2015 12:29 |
*goodco* wrote:This is yet another one of Gerry's alter egos. Just ignore him and everyone with these same old talking points.the wall wrote: I am now one of those Beatles fans who remember the good old days, but with with the original line up of Queen.Confused....does this mean you quit listening to The Beatles when they fired Pete Best? The thread is about Brian and his Common Decency comments, not Queen+. Please show some decency of your own, and keep the comments on topic. Thank you. |
The King Of Rhye 12.01.2015 12:52 |
To get back on the original topic for a moment........(what was it again? oh yeah) I like how Brian is doing this......putting his political views on his youtube channel.......not forcing his opinions on anyone, if you want to hear what he says, watch it, if not, dont......... With the tv appearances they'd have had lately, he could have easily gone off on a rant, or thrown in a line about something or other..... |
Chief Mouse 12.01.2015 13:00 |
Gerry, can you quit your fucking rant for once? We got you already, alright? You say the same thing literally for a thousand times! Argh! Freaking broken record. |
Nitroboy 12.01.2015 13:22 |
Gerry, stop trying to turn this into another hate-campaign against Queen, this thread has nothing to do with Queen. Brian is just using his status to shed light on the imbalance of the British political system. |
QueenTwo 12.01.2015 16:29 |
Queen have now crossed over to the One Direction / McBusted type of band now just a pop band out on the road big stage set plenty of lights young boy singer ! Don't feel that's anything to be proud of. |
The King Of Rhye 12.01.2015 16:48 |
Big stage set and plenty of lights? Yeah, how dare they have that! And a 32 year old is a young boy? Have to remember that next time I'm feeling old........ Maybe I should start creating alter egos and agree with myself...... Oh wait... 1. I don't need to 2. I wouldn't give a damn if I did Never mind........ Or maybe I'll create one and argue with myself, just to be schizophrenic or something...:P |
QueenTwo 12.01.2015 17:10 |
Young boy compared to old roger and Bazza don't you think? King of rhye, |
Catbert 12.01.2015 18:09 |
It's depressing what passes for "serious discussion" on this forum sometimes. I will be interested to see what Brian's plan is. Something has to change and he could well be a useful conduit for bringing people together to help achieve that. Of course everything that he says about the UK applies to most of the rest of the world too. |
tomchristie22 12.01.2015 23:26 |
miraclesteinway wrote: By the way I don't think Brian May has flipped out over this common decency thing. I think he's trying to use his voice to make a difference. At least he's not using his voice to attack other people for trying to make a positive difference.That's what I thought. And even if some people think he's going about it the wrong way, at least he's trying to do something good. |
gerry 13.01.2015 05:12 |
Chief mouse, i aint the only one on here ranting, check out (Queen2s) posts. your just having a go at me for personal reasons, get a life . |
QueenTwo 13.01.2015 05:49 |
Oh well guy's it's only our opinions right or wrong as they are? so no need to argue or fight over them,for the folk who are still into it good on them, and for us that just don't like it anymore, we cant help it, I did try and give them a go but they do nothing for me anymore. I can really understand how the younger fans will like this, maybe ones who never saw the real thing? and of course adam will have his share of fans just out to see him |
gerry 13.01.2015 07:13 |
Queen2: what hacks me off is May & Taylor have no respect for the ardent fans who have stood by Queen even when they had weak album releases, and now "May" says to the fans "if you do not like the new line up, then its goodbye and thanks"! charming eh! If it was not for the ardent fans May & Taylor would not have the mansion properties and lavish lifestyle.. Adam Lambert is using Queen to further his career here in the uk. May & Taylor are desperate enough to take him on because without him they would hardly make big money. Yes i tried to like AL but it just aint happening, i find him terribly irritating and performing as if he was in a musical. We have a right to voice our opinions on here and for those of you who don't like it then tough, jog on. Brian May has made a difference to Queen but in a cheap tacky way. |
tomchristie22 13.01.2015 07:17 |
gerry wrote: and now "May" says to the fans "if you do not like the new line up, then its goodbye and thanks"! charming eh!I don't think he's ever said that. gerry wrote: May & Taylor are desperate enough to take him on because without him they would hardly make big money.They've said several times that they weren't looking for a lead singer, they just worked with him those few times and decided it was too good to pass up. They probably would have never toured again if not for that, nor would they have needed to to make money. |
gerry 13.01.2015 07:37 |
I think May & Taylor could have toured again easily by themselves with a few session musicians like fred mandel etc......... May toured by himself in 1993! Queen do not need Lambert, if the money is not that important to them! |
The King Of Rhye 13.01.2015 07:59 |
tomchristie22 wrote:No he hasn't, gerry's just making up crap to suit his own opinion, as usual.....gerry wrote: and now "May" says to the fans "if you do not like the new line up, then its goodbye and thanks"! charming eh!I don't think he's ever said that. |
Chief Mouse 13.01.2015 08:10 |
gerry wrote: Chief mouse, i aint the only one on here ranting, check out (Queen2s) posts. your just having a go at me for personal reasons, get a life .I have nothing personal against you but since you've been here, majority of your posts are about dissing Lambert and dissing Brian and Roger for not being 'true' Queen. I think your opinion is valid (as everyone's entitled to one) but it's getting so annoying. Why do you feel the need to express it a million times? I came here to read about common decency yet I see the same posts from you once again. The problem is not you ranting, it's you ranting NON-STOP. Stop being a bitter grumpy old man who repeats himself. I don't know, go and scream in the woods if you need to vent your dissatisfaction so bad. |
gerry 13.01.2015 11:03 |
Chief mouse: i was merely agreeing with what (Queen2) had said in his post. I never read your posts blasting him about dissing Queen or Lambert? I never started this discussion just agreeing with ones comments lol |
The Real Wizard 13.01.2015 13:42 |
gerry wrote: i was merely agreeing with what (Queen2) had said in his post.Yeah, yet another one of your alter egos. For fuck's sake - not only are you a moron with the brain power and emotional maturity of an 8 year old, but you actually spend time posting as 3 or 4 different people on a forum to make it look like others share your views. And you don't copy and paste. You actually spend that much time doing it, again and again. And you only accomplish one thing - people think you're even more of an idiot. I pity you. |
Dean_ 13.01.2015 18:17 |
As much admiration I have for Brian, I tend to stay clear nowadays from his political standpoints. When you think back to the 70's, 40 years down the line could you see the man who wrote that nasty gritty riff to Tie Your Mother Down having an obsession with badgers?! I suppose when you have money and past your best in terms of producing and creating music one must fill the void with something.... I've no problem with them touring though. I'm still picking up a lot of the opinions on here from different users from different parts of the world, but Queen's catalog is far too good to not be played in a live setting. I don't think Freddie would have a problem with them doing so either. Don't get me wrong, I've been baffled with some of the things that they've done over the years, that collaboration with Five comes to mind, but at the end of the day, they're doing the best they can in making sure that Queen don't get forgotten about too quickly, which is never going to happen anyway. |
tomchristie22 13.01.2015 19:36 |
I don't see what's so strange about that - in the same song Brian wrote, 'Tie your mother down ... take your little brother swimming with a brick' in order to have sex with a girl uninterrupted by her disapproving family. The song isn't indicative of his character... He's always been fairly gentle as far as I can tell. Either way, his wanting to stop needless killing is something to be admired. He chose one species for his big campaign, because it's a big issue and close to home for him. I'm sure if he could help every creature and person he would, but he's rather making a focused and specialised effort. |
gerry 14.01.2015 03:13 |
The real wizard: You are stupid enough to reply to my posts in the first place, and believe me i do not have 3 other user names on here i can say what ever i want under my own name thank you very much. If you do not like what i say then fuck off. |
joerijoerijoeri 14.01.2015 04:45 |
Wel since no one here seems to like anything you and your alter ego's have to say, you might consider fucking off yrself, Gerry |
gerry 14.01.2015 05:03 |
i might as well fuck off from this lot of wankers on this site including you. |
joerijoerijoeri 14.01.2015 05:09 |
Exactly! See ya |
Dean_ 14.01.2015 06:09 |
tomchristie22 wrote: I don't see what's so strange about that - in the same song Brian wrote, 'Tie your mother down ... take your little brother swimming with a brick' in order to have sex with a girl uninterrupted by her disapproving family. The song isn't indicative of his character... He's always been fairly gentle as far as I can tell. Either way, his wanting to stop needless killing is something to be admired. He chose one species for his big campaign, because it's a big issue and close to home for him. I'm sure if he could help every creature and person he would, but he's rather making a focused and specialised effort.Most of these celebrities/musicians could not give two hoots about anything like that back in their prime though. It's something that has only come with age. I don't think it's the first problem on any of our minds when we have bills to pay and families to feed. I just feel that this has only come with age. McCartney is another one. What can you give a man who already has everything? Nothing, so this is why we see them on the news talking about things other than music. |
ludwigs 14.01.2015 06:12 |
gerry wrote: i might as well fuck off from this lot of wankers on this site including you......spoken like an 'ardent' friend of Wayne Sleep.... |
tomchristie22 14.01.2015 06:38 |
Dean_ wrote:Perhaps it gives you a freedom to worry about other peoples problems when you don't have to worry about your own financial situation.tomchristie22 wrote: I don't see what's so strange about that - in the same song Brian wrote, 'Tie your mother down ... take your little brother swimming with a brick' in order to have sex with a girl uninterrupted by her disapproving family. The song isn't indicative of his character... He's always been fairly gentle as far as I can tell. Either way, his wanting to stop needless killing is something to be admired. He chose one species for his big campaign, because it's a big issue and close to home for him. I'm sure if he could help every creature and person he would, but he's rather making a focused and specialised effort.Most of these celebrities/musicians could not give two hoots about anything like that back in their prime though. It's something that has only come with age. I don't think it's the first problem on any of our minds when we have bills to pay and families to feed. I just feel that this has only come with age. McCartney is another one. What can you give a man who already has everything? Nothing, so this is why we see them on the news talking about things other than music. Then again, the opposite happens with some rich people, whilst overwhelmingly, people living below the poverty line in third world countries are selfless. |
gerry 14.01.2015 08:38 |
ludwigs: you still can not handle your jealousy over me knowing Wayne Sleep, its hilarious that it gets to you! |
Vocal harmony 14.01.2015 09:47 |
Hey Gerry you missed an awesome gig last night . . . . . . . oh sorry I forgot. . . . . . . . |
7thStranger 14.01.2015 11:03 |
Well, here is my two cents. As there's lots of assuming going on here. My comment regarding Brian and John and his lack of respect for Queen's legacy stems from two things: 1) - Publicly comparing Freddie and Adam Lambert. The issue has never BEEN Adam. Out of the three of them, Adam has probably been the most precious with what he's doing. 2) - His recent comments about John Deacon were really rude and uncalled for. Even if they MAY be true, he did not need to hit below the belt. Did he think that was going to make the relationship better or what? 3) - Roger has publicly dissed songs that he didn't write including all of Hot Space and Another One Bites the Dust. 4) - Re-releasing Love Kills as a ballad and then putting it on a $17 compilation as it it were originally released under the Queen name. 5) - Selling out their music every year for another crap compilation that nobody really needs. Absolute Greatest, Deep Cuts, Queen Forever, Stone Cold Classics. It's all too much and too sleazy. This in combination with the overpriced box set for Live at the Rainbow with 5 different versions ranging from $17 to $200... those sets likely cost about $5 to manufacture. -- These are my issues with those two. I love their music, but their actions come across as careless. |
gerry 14.01.2015 11:18 |
Spot on there! Brian is a great gentle guy but since he joined forces with Lambert he has become arrogant and bloody minded. Maybe he gets it from Lambert as he comes across as a tosser. The compilation cds were a waste of money but the band say they were aimed at new fans out there! Brian does seem bitter with Deacon though and jealous of Freddie. Roger has also become jaded slagging off " Another one bites the dust" and criticizing cd 2 from Queen Forever! I recently heard that the Newcastle gig last night was truly awful and a big fuzzy mess, so glad i never wasted my money to go and see that load of shit. |
The King Of Rhye 14.01.2015 12:24 |
as to your last two points, 7th Stranger.......is it Brian and Roger, or the record company that's behind those compilations? the "hardcore fans" of ANY band pretty much NEVER like compilations..........but that's not who they're intended for, is it? |
7thStranger 14.01.2015 17:19 |
That's a good question. I think it's both. Stone Cold Classics was released in conjunction with American Idol, so that stinks of corporate crap. But Absolute Greatest is clearly the opposite. |
The King Of Rhye 14.01.2015 18:22 |
wheres the name "7th Stranger'' coming from is what I wonder.............lol |
The King Of Rhye 14.01.2015 18:22 |
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tomchristie22 14.01.2015 18:39 |
7thStranger wrote: Well, here is my two cents. As there's lots of assuming going on here. My comment regarding Brian and John and his lack of respect for Queen's legacy stems from two things: 1) - Publicly comparing Freddie and Adam Lambert. The issue has never BEEN Adam. Out of the three of them, Adam has probably been the most precious with what he's doing. 2) - His recent comments about John Deacon were really rude and uncalled for. Even if they MAY be true, he did not need to hit below the belt. Did he think that was going to make the relationship better or what? 3) - Roger has publicly dissed songs that he didn't write including all of Hot Space and Another One Bites the Dust. 4) - Re-releasing Love Kills as a ballad and then putting it on a $17 compilation as it it were originally released under the Queen name. 5) - Selling out their music every year for another crap compilation that nobody really needs. Absolute Greatest, Deep Cuts, Queen Forever, Stone Cold Classics. It's all too much and too sleazy. This in combination with the overpriced box set for Live at the Rainbow with 5 different versions ranging from $17 to $200... those sets likely cost about $5 to manufacture. -- These are my issues with those two. I love their music, but their actions come across as careless.1. I agree 2. I don't think his comments about John were disrespectful, really, they were just blown out of proportion in whatever thread it was a while back. 5. Brian has come out and said that the new compilation was a condition of their contract with Universal, and that they didn't really want to do it. |
7thStranger 15.01.2015 04:44 |
Which compilation? Absolute Greatest or Queen Forever? I'd love to read it in either case. And what about that Queen orb thing? Whose lovely idea was that? |
ludwigs 15.01.2015 06:35 |
gerry wrote: ludwigs: you still can not handle your jealousy over me knowing Wayne Sleep, its hilarious that it gets to you!Of course.........(yawn) Read me like a book.......(bigger yawn) I know a few 'very-famous' people as actual friends rather than a passing one-time acquaintance (and have mobile numbers and have spent time as friends with them) but it doesn't make me any better than anyone else. After all.....we all shit, pick our noses etc. Does it impress anyone??? Does it fuck, and why the hell would it or should it? There are people on here that also DID have an association within Queens circles that could tell real anecdotes rather than an old ballet dancer that has appeared on fame-seeking publicity shows. Jazz78 mentioned a lighting guy. That's just one example for you. 4th hand exaggerated accounts from a craving one-time ballet dancer.....hmmm, which one would I choose to take as fact? |
Vocal harmony 15.01.2015 09:43 |
gerry wrote: I recently heard that the Newcastle gig last night was truly awful and a big fuzzy mess, so glad i never wasted my money to go and see that load of shit.Do you ever post anything based on first hand experience and facts? |
tomchristie22 15.01.2015 16:21 |
7thStranger wrote: Which compilation? Absolute Greatest or Queen Forever? I'd love to read it in either case. And what about that Queen orb thing? Whose lovely idea was that?I mean Forever - I don't know what they thought of Absolute Greatest. From a Classic Rock interview, Roger: “I was very pleased we had three new tracks to put on it, which we laboured long and hard over,” he says. “As well as the Michael Jackson track There Must Be More To Life Than This, there is another song Freddie did with him called State of Shock [later recorded with the Jacksons and Mick Jagger], with a massive rock sound. But we could only have one track with Michael, which is a great shame. Let Me In Your Heart Again is absolutely typical mid-period Queen. And it was Brian’s idea to revisit Love Kills, which I feel works. But apart from that it is a rather odd mixture of our slower stuff. I didn’t want the double-album version they’ve put out. It’s an awful lot for people to take in, and it’s bloody miserable! I wouldn’t call it an album, either. It’s a compilation with three new tracks. It’s more of a record company confection. It’s not a full-blooded Queen album.” Brian: "It actually wasn’t our idea. If it had been down to me it would have been an EP of these new songs, but we’d already promised the record company some kind of compilation.” |
OwenSmith 16.01.2015 19:24 |
ANAGRAMER wrote: Yeah, does seem reasonable but the 'first past the post' system in the UK is designed to stop small interest groups having any real influence. The PR system works in Scotland and took us to the brink of independence which is fair enough but, in rU! if right wing groups have influence I would worry... I don't think Brian had thought this throughRight, and PR works so well in continental Europe. Like Italy or Greece, where it takes a month after an election to cobble together an alliance government, which is so fragile it can do hardly anything because one alliance member objects, and then it falls apart after two years. First past the post does at least usually deliver one party with a clear mandate to govern. This matters. Look at the complex system in the US where competing power structures controlled by different parties result in it being nearly impossible to even set a budget. |
Holly2003 17.01.2015 02:40 |
First past the post also leads more often than not these days, to parties being elected with less than half he popular vote, so they don;t have a mandate for their policies. And the absolute hypocrisy of the Tories now is that they want to do away with that system for unions while retaining it for parliamentary elections. They are shameless. |