| Stelios 02.01.2015 06:55 |
In this interview Brian sais on the "gay thing" in regards with music : "I find my mind wandering down those paths as well, because so many of the greatest musicians have been gay. I wonder if there is a special kind of magic that appeals to girls as much or even more than boys. There’s a kind of mystery there." Does anyone get what actually the second sentence mean? He is talking about sexuality and talent and then shifts to gender and music appreciation ? I don't get it. |
| Stelios 02.01.2015 07:11 |
PS. Also who are those great musicians who were gay? Apart from Tchaikovsky i don't recall anyone else. |
| Oscar J 02.01.2015 08:36 |
Sigh. link You could argue not everyone there is great though. |
| noorie 02.01.2015 09:54 |
What I think Brian is trying to say is that gay musicians still hold massive appeal for girls, women in spite of being gay. I mean look at how many females (including me!) adore Freddie. And the same seems to be the case with Adam Lambert. So probably what Brian means is that there is some mystique about gay singers that attracts both sexes...? |
| Stelios 02.01.2015 10:08 |
^^^Nice. Thanx! |
| Holly2003 02.01.2015 10:15 |
noorie wrote: What I think Brian is trying to say is that gay musicians still hold massive appeal for girls, women in spite of being gay. I mean look at how many females (including me!) adore Freddie. And the same seems to be the case with Adam Lambert. So probably what Brian means is that there is some mystique about gay singers that attracts both sexes...?The answer is no there isn't. It's a daft comment from Brian which also infers that Brian believes only males could normally be expected to like female musicians, and vice versa. |
| antiden 02.01.2015 12:24 |
Oscar J wrote: linkStupid question, but why is Freddie not on the list? |
| miraclesteinway 02.01.2015 12:39 |
I was thinking the same thing. It's not difficult to think of gay musicians. Vladimir Horowitz once said 'there are only three types of pianist - Jewish pianists, Russian pianists and bad pianists!' He was also the one who coined the phrase 'My face is my passport', and said 'The piano is like an orchestra with 88.... things' |
| Oscar J 02.01.2015 13:00 |
Well, some claim Freddie is bisexual. Maybe that's why he's not listed. Oh, and steinway: I tried really hard to understand your post, yet it made absolutely no sense to me. They usually do, so maybe you can elaborate? |
| sinsome 02.01.2015 13:05 |
antiden wrote: Oscar J wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Gay_musicians Stupid question, but why is Freddie not on the list? --- Probably because he's here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Bisexual_musicians Gets a bit difficult categorizing people this way, which the alert at the top of the Wiki page does acknowledge. |
| Mr.QueenFan 02.01.2015 14:04 |
Holly2003 wrote:Here comes Holly with the usual bullshit towards Brian. If you were a man, i would ask you if Brian fucked your girlfriend. But you're a women, so i don't really know where your hate for Brian comes from.noorie wrote: What I think Brian is trying to say is that gay musicians still hold massive appeal for girls, women in spite of being gay. I mean look at how many females (including me!) adore Freddie. And the same seems to be the case with Adam Lambert. So probably what Brian means is that there is some mystique about gay singers that attracts both sexes...?The answer is no there isn't. It's a daft comment from Brian which also infers that Brian believes only males could normally be expected to like female musicians, and vice versa. Next time, read the full interview, and don't put meanings to Brian's words that aren't there in the first place. |
| Holly2003 02.01.2015 14:27 |
Here's another idea: stop whining like a little Stepford baby :) |
| Mr.QueenFan 02.01.2015 14:44 |
edit I was trying to correct some things on my previous post and ended up quoting myself. |
| Holly2003 02.01.2015 14:49 |
Mr.QueenFan wrote: edit I was trying to correct some things on my previous post and ended up quoting myself.Perhaps you were trying to think of some more sexually aggressive language to use against me, a mere slip of a girl ... |
| Oscar J 02.01.2015 15:00 |
Mr.QueenFan wrote: Here comes Holly with the usual bullshit towards Brian. If you were a man, i would ask you if Brian fucked your girlfriend. But you're a women, so i don't really know where your hate for Brian comes from.Ah, and now you presume Holly can't fancy girls. You're no better than Brian! ;) |
| The King Of Rhye 02.01.2015 15:31 |
noorie wrote: What I think Brian is trying to say is that gay musicians still hold massive appeal for girls, women in spite of being gay. I mean look at how many females (including me!) adore Freddie. And the same seems to be the case with Adam Lambert. So probably what Brian means is that there is some mystique about gay singers that attracts both sexes...?Seems to be the case with Adam? Seems?? Hehehe........ Read some youtube comments on one of his videos if you havent already! lol |
| Mr.QueenFan 02.01.2015 15:38 |
Holly2003 wrote:No, because i know you would love it.Mr.QueenFan wrote: edit I was trying to correct some things on my previous post and ended up quoting myself.Perhaps you were trying to think of some more sexually aggressive language to use against me, a mere slip of a girl ... |
| Holly2003 02.01.2015 15:47 |
Mr.QueenFan wrote:Keep digging ... lolHolly2003 wrote:No, because i know you would love it.Mr.QueenFan wrote: edit I was trying to correct some things on my previous post and ended up quoting myself.Perhaps you were trying to think of some more sexually aggressive language to use against me, a mere slip of a girl ... |
| Stelios 02.01.2015 16:11 |
Back to the topic... Whats interesting with performers is some sence of sexual or gender ambiguity works! Its prooven with Jagger, Steven Tyler or Alice Cooper who were never thought as homosexuals. Bowie is the most apparent but he was classed as bi, so he is in a league of his own. As for music talent or any kind of art talent there are two parametres that are pro-gay. 1) Heavy issues and feelings of gay men and women who find art as a form to express them. A sophisticated answer to repression (Bo Rhap anyone?) 2) Channeling male and female qualities while creating art seems to work better since fine art, many times, is somehow above gender.Its more human-focused.Gay people often challenge gender stereotypes and male/female boxes. |
| kosimodo 02.01.2015 16:37 |
Going to sleep with a smile on my face:) Freddie didnt make it to the gay musicians list;) |
| miraclesteinway 02.01.2015 17:10 |
I misquoted Horowitz.... I meant to write Jewish Pianists, Homosexual Pianists, and bad pianists.... sorry. Now I hope it makes sense. |
| Oscar J 02.01.2015 17:18 |
No worries, I found the correct quote after some googling. :) He seems to have been quite an outspoken gent. |
| matt z 02.01.2015 17:27 |
Geez. KINDA shocked to see Doug Pinnick in there. Kinda cause people often wear makeup onstage. |
| Stelios 02.01.2015 18:11 |
I just googled Chris Xefos from the gay musicians list. It was a random pick. And it led me to this !!! link |
| gerry 03.01.2015 05:12 |
Freddie had loads of Gay musician friends, like Cliff Richard, Elton John, Boy George, Peter Straker, etc....... Freddie was more gay than Bi as he had a lot of Male lovers in the 80s. |
| Stelios 03.01.2015 05:42 |
By the way pretty stupid of me to say " who are all these great gay musicians?" I realise some of the contemporary key figures are gay and great like: 1) Michael Stipe [R.E.M.] 2) George Michael 3) K.D. Lalg 4) Rob Halford [Judas Priest] ...all missing from those wiki-lists however. And of course Elton John who somehow made it to be listed! |
| miraclesteinway 03.01.2015 13:38 |
I think it's fair to say Freddie wasn't really bi at all, based solely on evidence from Mary Austin 'No Freddie, I think you're gay' and Peter Freestone said that he wasn't in the bedroom with Freddie and Barbara Valentin, but if he did have sex with her, he wouldn't have been able to shut up about it. I assume from that, that Freddie didn't speak about it. I'm actually annoyed with myself that I watched that programme 'Freddie's Lovers', but it was the folly of youth, I was 23 or 24 when it was on TV first, which is where I watched it, the broadcast on channel 5. Should have known that anything about Freddie on channel 5 would have been rubbish. There were two other programmes similar - Freddie's Millions, and when Freddie met Kenny Everett. Neither of them were particularly nice programmes to be honest, although Freddie's millions at least avoided sleaze. It was all a total estimate of course, the amount of money his estate is worth, as the makers of the programme were never privy to that information AFAIK |
| gerry 04.01.2015 03:08 |
Yes i watched all of those Freddie documentaries, and one funny thing Peter Freestone once said about Freddie is that he liked men who looked as if they could eat a lorry for breakfast, that was Freddies type of guy and he had a crush on sexy Burt Reynolds! I will say one thing though, Jim Hutton was perfect for Freddie. They looked so in love together, and Freddie was just so happy and beaming. The happiest he had been for many many years. |
| miraclesteinway 05.01.2015 03:59 |
Yup! Agreed. |