| ili 20.11.2014 02:01 |
I don't know about you, but I just fell in love with the song. The songs that I had the same feelings at first listening were Bo Rhap and Innuendo only. it was the third time in many years (since Innuendo) that I played a song over and over again for more than an hour. I was listening the song with tears in my eyes the whole time. Maybe it was due to the fact that I was listening to a new Queen song with Freddie after so many years. maybe I got more emotional through the years... I don't know. I just know that I had a great time and the song was worth the wait. It would have been my favourite song in The Works, if it was included in the album. Thank you QUEEN... thank you everyone who has worked on and for the release of the song, for letting us hear our incomparable Freddie one more time singing a great Queen song. |
| Queenman!! 20.11.2014 02:20 |
Well said Ili, That song moves me too and Freddie sounds as fresh as never before on that record. Forget these re-re-remasters and so compiled records of Queen. Imagine what a whole record with about ten songs could do to people. But they (QP, Universal, Jim Brian Roger, John) just don't get it.All these treasures lurking and dusting away in the archives. What a shame!. Look at other bands what a nice CD óf takes and demo's could do... some reworked songs etc. All about the money! |
| andyb1968 20.11.2014 02:44 |
It was amazing to hear this track, you couldn't believe that Freddie wasn't still with us and just gone into the studio to record this, on the flip side the other two tracks leave me cold, pretty soulless, pointless.A final album with unheard tracks would be huge, no doubt, so come on boys.......get it on. |
| queenfan78.1 20.11.2014 07:27 |
I fully agree. I have been playing let me in over and over and cant get tired of it. When I first heard love kills live I got really excited for it until I found out they were using the same vocal take. just doesn't seem to fit. the live versions with Adam are better because he is signing the song like a ballad, plus that little break in the middle, wish they kept that in the studio version. As for the Jackson duet I usually skip it after the first verse once Michael comes in. |
| Gregsynth 20.11.2014 11:40 |
It's a good song and Freddie's vocals are 1st class on that song! |
| IanR 20.11.2014 12:51 |
I was surprised to discover that it has Fred Mandel on the piano! |
| BradF 20.11.2014 13:23 |
Maybe this has already been confirmed elsewhere - but I think you can tell from the solo that it was one Brian recently added to the song, and not one of his from 1984. |
| cmsdrums 20.11.2014 13:25 |
IanR wrote: I was surprised to discover that it has Fred Mandel on the piano! |
| cmsdrums 20.11.2014 13:28 |
So was I, after keep reading interviews wirh Brian saying 'what you hear on there is just the four of us playing'!! I suppose the fact that Mandel plays the piano on it does lend credence to the main backing having been recorded together live; if the tracks had been built up with individual recorded parts then there would have been no reason for Freddie or Brian not to have played it. |
| people on streets 20.11.2014 17:57 |
I love the track too. |
| FreddieCat 20.11.2014 19:01 |
Very competent sexy Freddie with a dos of swagger. Love it too. |
| KJ 21.11.2014 07:44 |
Nice track. to me it falls in the same category as My life has been saved. Although LMIYHA is slightly better than that. |
| gerry 21.11.2014 12:27 |
If Brian & Roger stopped faffing about with madam lambert then they would be able to find some more un-heard freddie tracks and finish them off! Freddie is surely more important than miss lambert ! |
| The Real Wizard 21.11.2014 12:46 |
Who confirmed that it's Mandel on piano ?? Interesting. |
| cmsdrums 21.11.2014 14:50 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Who confirmed that it's Mandel on piano ?? Interesting.Confirmed in the 'Forever' booklet credits |
| k-m 22.11.2014 04:48 |
Good tune, mainly thanks to Freddie's knockout vocal performance. It would have been a great addition to The Works (which had like 9 songs anyway!!). |
| gerry 22.11.2014 06:54 |
ili :yes "Let me in your heart again" would have surely been ideal for the "The Works" album, and i am sure it could have been swapped for the awful "man on the prowl, which Queen never ever performed live. The new song L.M.I.Y.H.A is a special song and as you say it is fantastic to hear the 4 guys on a new track, in particular freddie who i miss so much. |
| TheGame 24.11.2014 05:09 |
Fully agree with topic poster. Great tune, love it! Im not on the moaning train, but too bad they ( Queen etc) seem to forget about tracks as this. Atleast we got this one and its a damn good song too! |
| tomchristie22 24.11.2014 05:13 |
gerry wrote: the awful "man on the prowl, which Queen never ever performed live.The song is pretty bad, but I don't think it not being performed live is an indication of that. Queen never ever performed My Fairy King or You and I live either. |
| gerry 24.11.2014 05:44 |
Tom: i love "You & i" and its a great shame it was not performed live, as it is a very under rated track, but has a blistering fab guitar solo from Brian and Freddies vocal on this track is pretty damn good! Great tune too. |
| Pingfah 24.11.2014 05:49 |
It's a great song, but I think it has too many similarities with Hammer to Fall to have gone on the same album without raising a few eyebrows. In fact I would say they probably abandoned the track and recycled some of the ideas into Hammer to Fall. |
| ITSM 24.11.2014 06:22 |
Pingfah wrote: It's a great song, but I think it has too many similarities with Hammer to Fall to have gone on the same album without raising a few eyebrows. In fact I would say they probably abandoned the track and recycled some of the ideas into Hammer to Fall.I think so too. |
| Stelios 24.11.2014 07:47 |
^^^ me too |
| Viper 24.11.2014 08:32 |
Let Me In Your Heart Again is a good track! Not perfect but good. I believe it was also rejected back in 84 because it has some poor lyrics and has a backing track similar to Hammer To Fall. Brian has some great solos and guitar bits on it! And of course, Fred sings beautifully most of the song! Possibly another vocal take would end up better than this one. |
| MackMantilla 24.11.2014 09:14 |
You're right. The guitar solo sounds pretty similar to the one in 'Hammer to fall'. |
| gerry 24.11.2014 11:13 |
yeah Brian has used the same guitar styles in "Hammer to Fall" & "Let me in your heart again". i still think this track would have worked very well on "The Works" album. "Man on the prowl" is the only weak track on that album. |
| brENsKi 24.11.2014 13:32 |
gerry wrote: "Man on the prowl" is the only weak track on that album.errm...really? Tear It Up - sucks and blows I Want To Break Free - is pretty fucking lazy as songs go Machines - very average ISTWWC - below average MOTP - as above in fact of the four songs left: GaGa - nice catchy pop tune, nothing special IAHL - good solid tune Hammer - again not bad... KPTOW - best song on the LP Says something when more than half the songs on an album are nothing more than filler, the production on EVERY song is crap and the best (IMO) on the album is a Joe Jackson ripoff it's a fucking dire album. |
| gerry 24.11.2014 14:16 |
Thats your opinion Brenski but many Queen fans love the works album and it was a success over europe back in 1984, Queen decided to pull out all the stops after Hot Space left a lot of fans deflated. I love all of the songs except "Man on the prowl" which to me sounds like another elvis track after " Crazy little thing". Queen swept up a lot of new fans with "The Works" and this album got them back on track. love it! |
| brENsKi 24.11.2014 16:46 |
Gerry the point i'm trying to make is there's far too much wrong with the album. it's certainly not a queen classic - and don't say "but it sold loads" - lots of shit sells the simple fact of the matter is that of ALL of queen's discography The Works has aged the worst. the production, the synths and lazy song-writing all come together to form a cocktail of so diluted it's close to water. |
| Back2TheLight 25.11.2014 01:50 |
I'm gonna have to disagree...The Works was not their best album, but certainly not their worst. It DOES have some filler, yes, and it does sound a bit dated, but to the bands credit, ALL of their past albums sound a fair bit dated. Doesn't mean it sucks. But I think for 1983/84, the sound was VERY relevant, and I'd say at least 2/3 of the album was pretty damn good! |
| gerry 25.11.2014 03:28 |
I do disagree Brenski, "The Works" was a very popular album, back in 84, and back on track from the disco / funk feel from "Hot Space". You cant deny the brilliance of : "Radio Ga Ga", "Hammer to fall" "I want to break free" & " Its a hard life" together with "Machines" i think its a pretty hot album, and much better than "Innuendo" or "Made in Heaven",(where the band got lost in a fog) but that is my personal opinion. |
| Oscar J 25.11.2014 04:38 |
bambams-paradise wrote: I'm gonna have to disagree...The Works was not their best album, but certainly not their worst. It DOES have some filler, yes, and it does sound a bit dated, but to the bands credit, ALL of their past albums sound a fair bit dated. Doesn't mean it sucks. But I think for 1983/84, the sound was VERY relevant, and I'd say at least 2/3 of the album was pretty damn good!Most of their albums sound dated in a good way, while their mid 80's albums sound dated in a bad way. |
| Pingfah 25.11.2014 05:14 |
Ken Bruce just called this the forthcoming Queen single. So fingers crossed for a 7". |
| cmsdrums 25.11.2014 06:44 |
Oscar J wrote:I'd counter the claim that ALL their albums sound dated...the 80s ones have possibly fared worst, and are 'of their time', and maybe the first three also carry trademarks of that era, but A Day At The Races and News of The World could have been released yesterday, both in terms of the song writing and the brilliance of how they still sound sonically so fresh.bambams-paradise wrote: I'm gonna have to disagree...The Works was not their best album, but certainly not their worst. It DOES have some filler, yes, and it does sound a bit dated, but to the bands credit, ALL of their past albums sound a fair bit dated. Doesn't mean it sucks. But I think for 1983/84, the sound was VERY relevant, and I'd say at least 2/3 of the album was pretty damn good!Most of their albums sound dated in a good way, while their mid 80's albums sound dated in a bad way. |
| Martin Packer 25.11.2014 10:19 |
As I too can see the similarities between HTF and LMIYHA it would be interesting to hear one segue into the other. |
| Viper 25.11.2014 10:39 |
The Works is a great album. It has some great tunes on it.Too bad it lefts out I Go Crazy and Let Me In Your Heart Again. Although this last one probably doesn't suit together with Hammer To Fall. I Want To Break Free's single remix is way better also. |
| Oscar J 25.11.2014 11:36 |
The IWTBF production is so uninspired. Hate that damn drum machine. |
| Viper 25.11.2014 11:43 |
Of course it's a pop oriented song, but it's a great one! |
| brENsKi 25.11.2014 11:58 |
opinions are rarely much more than conjecture. wonder what brian/roger's opinion would be of those early/mid 80s albums these days? Bri would definitely lament the lack of guitars, and Roger would hate the use of syn drums... and one thing indisputable - and that means even you gerry & viper - regardless of what you think of the songs themselves or the quality of the song/writing & playing - the production quality of everything from 82-89 is fucking terrible. Note Gerry: I said production quality. so if, you're coming back with a counter argument - i would suggest you saying "why" you disagree - from a production POV |
| gerry 25.11.2014 12:13 |
Brenski: i do not come on here for argument sake, but i will answer your post. You say from a production point of view Queens albums from 82 - 99 were crap! Queen had Mack who worked very hard on the albums and he did a good job as well as working with E.L.O. I can not see anything wrong with the production on the albums and i trust Queen, as fussy as they were with the production of any album. I would say the production of "Live killers" was iffy in 1979 but the 80s albums were great. |
| Viper 25.11.2014 13:04 |
I have to agree with gerry on this one. Queen albuns may sound a bit old, but not that old. The production is very good, even by todays standards. |
| brENsKi 25.11.2014 16:48 |
gerry wrote: Brenski: i do not come on here for argument sake, but i will answer your post. You say from a production point of view Queens albums from 82 - 99 were crap! Queen had Mack who worked very hard on the albums and he did a good job as well as working with E.L.O.Reinhold Mack was engineer on ELO's albums - Jeff lynne was the producer - which is why they sound so great, and don't date like queen's 80s output |
| gerry 26.11.2014 02:20 |
Stop nitpicking brenski, Queens albums are much better produced than some groups. Some of todays artists albums sound terrible, the sound is far too loud and distorted. Paul McCartneys "pipes of peace" album was terribly produced because the sound was just too loud the needle on my hi-fi back then kept jumping of the grooves! lol |
| brENsKi 26.11.2014 07:35 |
gerry wrote:Stop nitpicking brenski, Queens albums are much better produced than some groups. Some of todays artists albums sound terrible, the sound is far too loud and distorted.there's still no point ever trying to reason with you is there? +++++++++++++++++++++++++ link While many music producers are also good sound engineers, sound engineers don't necessarily make good music producers. The main difference is that while both professionals have a healthy understanding of the technical aspects of music production, producers also have a hefty dose of artistic and creative vision to make a recording the best it can be. Producer A producer is the creative leader of a recording session or album. He oversees the recording, mixing and arranging of tracks and songs, advises musicians on how to approach or play on a track, helps artists select which songs to record and enhances individual tracks. Often, a producer will play an instrument or add sounds to a recording. An executive producer performs many of these functions, but also oversees the recording budget, hires session players and oversees nonrecording studio personnel. Engineer A recording engineer is a technician who operates the soundboard and other equipment during a recording session, under the supervision of the producer. They also set up studio and recording equipment. An engineer's main job is to use her technical skills to bring the producer's and artist's vision to fruition. She also is often responsible for mixing recorded tracks and making sure the final recording is free of any unwanted sounds or noises. gerry wrote:Paul McCartneys "pipes of peace" album was terribly produced because the sound was just too loud the needle on my hi-fi back then kept jumping of the grooves! lolnot with decent equipment it shouldn't. a good balanced/weight adjustable tone arm/cart cuts out most "jumping" |
| The Real Wizard 26.11.2014 11:57 |
Still working 9-5 at Queenzone, I see... Your pink slip has been on your desk for weeks now. Let the fool be a fool. He clearly hasn't had an independent thought in decades. |
| brENsKi 26.11.2014 17:04 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Let the fool be a fool. He clearly hasn't had an independent thought in decades.i know you're completely right Bob, and i promise i'm gonna try resisting the urge to correct the imbecile from. something in my mind hates the idea of his fictoids ending being accepted as fact by those who are unaware of him or his body of work. apols, will hold back from now on. |
| Vocal harmony 27.11.2014 10:23 |
The Works, as an album falls short of even Hot Space. It's only function in 2014 seems to be to act as a mini greatest hits album, four hits and filler. The production, as mentioned, is not good. Mach may have been a very current and forward thinking producer, but that doesn't mean his work would gel with everyone he worked with. I think it's interesting that ADATR and NOTW are probably the two best sound Queen albums and they were produced by the band, with assistance from Mike Stone. It would have been interesting to hear how The Works would have sounded with that team at the helm . I think it would have been heavier and darker sounding. Yes it sold well, and the singles rejuvenated Queen's career, it doesn't mean it was good, plenty of crap has got to number. Also don't forget that it was recorded in an uncertain time for the band. IMO Freddie was preparing to jump ship to a solo career, and that was where his head was. As a result The Works lacks drive and a willingness to create something special |
| joerijoerijoeri 27.11.2014 10:29 |
Yeah The Works is probably my least favourite Queen album. I have no idea why they didn't put LMIYHA on it as it is much better than half the songs on the works. |
| The Real Wizard 27.11.2014 12:06 |
brENsKi wrote: something in my mind hates the idea of his fictoids ending being accepted as fact by those who are unaware of him or his body of work.Yeah, I hear ya. It's nice when forums stick to facts. I'd just like to think that someone who can't coherently put a sentence together wouldn't be taken seriously to begin with.. |
| tomchristie22 27.11.2014 15:39 |
The Real Wizard wrote:True, but he is getting better at constructing sentences (constructing arguments is still a pitfall). Also, when certain other posters are wreaking havoc, it only makes his posts look more valid by comparison.brENsKi wrote: something in my mind hates the idea of his fictoids ending being accepted as fact by those who are unaware of him or his body of work.Yeah, I hear ya. It's nice when forums stick to facts. I'd just like to think that someone who can't coherently put a sentence together wouldn't be taken seriously to begin with.. |
| inu-liger 27.11.2014 16:12 |
tomchristie22 wrote: Also, when certain other posters are wreaking havoc, it only makes his posts look more valid by comparison.Which still sets a very slippery precedent when this garbage is left unmoderated. I still don't understand how fraudulent sale list posts are given the boot right away, yet extreme trolling is acceptable to just leave there as is? |
| EDWOOD 29.11.2014 06:43 |
The Works only has 9 tracks on it but what is bizarre is the fact that they had a multitude of other tracks that could have gone in it. Possible tensions within the band, the cancellation of the music project for the film, 'The Hotel New Hampshire', a Freddie and Roger's solo careers taking some of their music away from the band resulted in tracks not appearing that would otherwise have done so. I've said it before but The Works could have been Queen's best 80s album if it had been produced differently and had 12/13 tracks instead of what we ended up with.. |
| The Real Wizard 29.11.2014 12:04 |
EDWOOD wrote: the cancellation of the music project for the film, 'The Hotel New Hampshire'Interesting - can you elaborate on this? |
| Martin Packer 30.11.2014 09:46 |
I just think The Works was a bit short. But then I think The Game was even shorter. |
| The King Of Rhye 01.12.2014 09:32 |
The Real Wizard wrote:I thought the story was that they wrote KPTOW for the movie and were going to do more for it, but the people making the movie went with classical music instead..........EDWOOD wrote: the cancellation of the music project for the film, 'The Hotel New Hampshire'Interesting - can you elaborate on this? Wait a sec........ (wikipedia......not cited though...........) The rock band Queen was asked by producers to compose an entire soundtrack for the movie, but later changed their minds in favour of classical music. Freddie Mercury had already composed the song "Keep Passing the Open Windows" and so it ended up on their 1984 album The Works. |