| winterspelt 05.11.2014 00:57 |
Queen+ Adam Lambert, winners of the Band of the Year at the Classic Rock Awards link Another winners: Eric Burdon - Bluesman Led Zeppelin - Reissue of the year (weird award in my opinion) Roger Daltrey and Wilko Johnson |
| soxtalon 05.11.2014 06:34 |
Hopefully the Kings of Chaos performance will be shown with Brian and Joe Elliot joining them for TYMD |
| Vocal harmony 05.11.2014 08:21 |
winterspelt wrote: Queen+ Adam Lambert, winners of the Band of the Year at the Classic Rock Awards link Another winners: Led Zeppelin - Reissue of the year (weird award in my opinion)Why? |
| andyb1968 05.11.2014 10:39 |
Very suspicious the award was sponsered by Universal ! With a Queen v Michael Jackson night on X Factor on Saturday, and the nation's favourite Queen song on TV next Tuesday, the big push for Queen Forever is on !! |
| Pingfah 05.11.2014 10:49 |
Oh my god, they are devoting a whole TV show to that awful fucking song? Another reason not to watch crappy reality talent shows, as if there weren't already enough. |
| gerry 05.11.2014 12:39 |
what song is that then pingfah? lol |
| anniestu44b 05.11.2014 12:39 |
Omg i bet the band will be gutted you're not watching. |
| gerry 05.11.2014 12:49 |
What a laugh that Adam Lambert & Queen voted band of the year by classic rock! Something here not quite true? |
| cmsdrums 05.11.2014 13:13 |
gerry wrote: What a laugh that Adam Lambert & Queen voted band of the year by classic rock! Something here not quite true?It was a public vote, and so clearly the masses were galvanised. |
| Russian Headlong 05.11.2014 13:57 |
that's a joke surely! |
| master marathon runner 05.11.2014 14:51 |
Freddie, if you're looking down........I'm so sorry. |
| anniestu44b 05.11.2014 16:17 |
Omg, the same people and their broken record, disagreeing with the judgement of some of the most respected guys in the music business.....shock horror, this is getting so boring, listening to people who think they know better, or think for some obsurd reason could do better. Ffs, shut the f*** up and go and listen to someone else, join their forum and bore their tits off with all your juvenile ramblings! |
| Pingfah 06.11.2014 03:42 |
anniestu44b wrote: Omg i bet the band will be gutted you're not watching.If you really think There Must Be More to Life Than This is worthy of a whole episode of primetime TV devoted to it, then I have no words for you. You quite simply have appalling taste. gerry wrote: what song is that then pingfah? lolThere Must Be More To Life Than This. Total piece of shit, hastily thrown together from outtakes neither artist would have been happy with, and an insult to the musical legacy of both Freddie & Michael, who were both capable of much greater things. |
| Marknow 06.11.2014 06:25 |
Pingfah wrote: There Must Be More To Life Than This. Total piece of shit, hastily thrown together from outtakes neither artist would have been happy with, and an insult to the musical legacy of both Freddie & Michael, who were both capable of much greater things. Could not agree more with you, Queen Forever is a joke, the "new songs" are pasted on just to help it sell. I doubt Freddie or Wacko would release this if it were up to them, I feel it harms their legacy. |
| Marknow 06.11.2014 06:52 |
anniestu44b wrote: Omg, the same people and their broken record, disagreeing with the judgement of some of the most respected guys in the music business.....shock horror, this is getting so boring, listening to people who think they know better, or think for some obsurd reason could do better. Ffs, shut the f*** up and go and listen to someone else, join their forum and bore their tits off with all your juvenile ramblings! Some people on here are "Queentarded". they really seem to think Freddie was some kind of god and that Brian and Roger have no right to perform their songs live because Freddie died, after all Freddie was Queen, right? Lol. You are wasting your time trying to talk sense to most people who dislike the current live tour. Don't get me wrong, people are entitled to not like it if it is not their thing but the fact that the tour was very successful is just too hard to process for some fans. They cannot accept that over 500,000 people attended the concerts and mostly enjoyed them, they don't see the addition of new dates in N.America and Australia as a positive reflection of the popularity of the tour, the hundreds of positive fan and critical reviews don't count for anything because there was one or two bad reviews and they obviously carry more weight. They don't care that the tour next year was added because of popular demand in Europe by fans. They cannot process facts and accept that although they as individuals do not like the tour, the tour was, is, and will be another major success. |
| Pingfah 06.11.2014 07:02 |
The problem with anniestu44b's statement is that, while I agree in principle that people whine about AL far too much on this forum, the fact that "respected guys in the music business" think they are a good band, is no reason to think they are a good band. Nor is the fact that people couldn't put on a better world tour themselves a good reason to like them, I couldn't put on a better tour than Taylor Swift either, but it doesn't mean I should like her music. These are absurd criticisms to throw at people to dispute their opinions, and frankly make this poster look as childish as the whiners she is trying to insult. I'm going to see the tour in January, but not because Classic Rock magazine gave them an award. |
| gerry 06.11.2014 07:17 |
The reason why Queen fans moan is because Freddie was a god and he was the most flamboyant member of the group so it is no surprise they think Adam Lambert is not up to the job of filling freddies shoes. Sure the AL + Queen tour was popular this year but only because lots of girls support Lambert a bit like One Direction in this country, it still does not turn Lambert into a Legend like Freddie. Lambert comes no where near Freddie's vocal spectrum in terms of brilliance, he just has a sharp tone to his voice plain and simple. Queen have now turned in to a very different Rock group now Lambert is truly on board, but they will never reach the dizzy heights of success in which they had with Freddie. I think many fans have a right to disapprove of the new set up after all theses ardent fans like myself supported Queen all those years, 40 years in my case, and it is sad when you see a group only half the strength that they used to be and it is looking ridiculous now. Yes i hate it, but younger people can not understand why, but there again they have never watched Freddie Mercury on fire and in front of there eyes like i have, he was a truly magnificent performer, never equaled and never beaten ever! There is nothing positive about Queen in 2014 or in the future as far as i am concerned, they have bitten the dust without Freddie & John. |
| brENsKi 06.11.2014 07:27 |
disapprove all you like - it makes NO difference. it's simple economic sense - for every dissenter/rejector/non-sale like yourself, there appears to be 100 new fans. queen as a business was dead....this thing (much as i don't like it) gave the band a new lease of life. and think about it Gerry, the continuance of Queen+AL as an operation means Bri & Rog keep going, and by virtue of this we get some new tracks like LMIYHA and TMBMTLTT, and the Live @ Rainbow cd/dvd - so it's swings and roundabouts....just accept the good with the bad - the alternative is zilch. |
| Marknow 06.11.2014 07:43 |
What I don't get is the people who call themselves fans but won't go and see Brian & Roger play because they don't rate Adam as a singer. I mean I bought my tickets back in 2005 and to be honest I didn't really know who the fuck Paul Rodgers was, it was irrelevant to me who he was, I still don't give a fuck about him. Same in 2012, I went to Hammersmith without a fucking clue who Adam Lambert was, it was irrelevant who the vocalist was, I was going to see Brian and Roger playing their music. Who is a better fit Paul or Adam? I don't give a fuck, although I do have my own opinion. The only reason I will be in London in January is to see the lads play their music, to be a part of it, to look back in the future and say "yeah I was there", rather than "I didn't go because I didn't rate the vocalist" I know which side of the fence I prefer to be on. Freddie is dead kids, he's not hiding out with Elvis on an Island somewhere calculating his comeback after being cured of Aids. Accept it, move on. Live in the now. |
| gerry 06.11.2014 07:47 |
sure i agree with what you are saying but i only collect Pure Queen products. I think now Brian & Roger do not take Queen as a serious act, i mean how could they with an american idol contestant on board, and they have made lots of bad musical decisions since freddie died, such as working with 5ive and Dappy, etc......... They have thrown the name Queen around like a hooker. I now learn that they plan a studio album with AL, but if it is anything like the last album "The Cosmos Rocks" then it will be a flop. I never bought that one either. I just got a fab new box set celebrating 50 years of "Suzi Quatro" fab! |
| Pingfah 06.11.2014 08:03 |
I agree that 5ive and Dappy are particularly egregious examples. If they'd done something good with those pop stars, maybe that would be different, but neither record is good. I'm not sure how they can write a track like C-Lebrity with a straight face either, considering their career choices recently. Brian & Roger put on a good show though. It's not Queen, and nobody they hire to sing could do as good a job as Freddie, or John for that matter, but it's still a good show, and that's all that matters. |
| Vocal harmony 06.11.2014 08:17 |
gerry wrote: I now learn that they plan a studio album with AL, but if it is anything like the last album "The Cosmos Rocks" then it will be a flop. I never bought that one either.You never bought that one either, but you feel qualified to pass a judgement. I think that sums you up perfectly Gerrald. One other point, a few posts back you claimed that Queen and Adam Lambert will never be as successful has they were with Freddie. Well the last time they played the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand with the original line they didn't sell as many tickets as this time. . . So as a live attraction they are as, if not more successful in some markets. Because you don't like what they are doing now is no reason to rubbish every note played continuously. We all have the message, some don't agree with you, others are willing to let them get on with it. Your choice is not to buy a ticket, or album if there ever is one, which is fine, but why can't you let those who are enjoying the shows (fans and band alike) just get on with it. |
| Marknow 06.11.2014 08:22 |
gerry wrote: sure i agree with what you are saying but i only collect Pure Queen products. I think now Brian & Roger do not take Queen as a serious act, i mean how could they with an american idol contestant on board, and they have made lots of bad musical decisions since freddie died, such as working with 5ive and Dappy, etc......... They have thrown the name Queen around like a hooker. I now learn that they plan a studio album with AL, but if it is anything like the last album "The Cosmos Rocks" then it will be a flop. I never bought that one either. I just got a fab new box set celebrating 50 years of "Suzi Quatro" fab! I do agree. Working with the likes of 5ive and that Dappy scumbag and even Adam is all about bringing in a younger audiance, it gives Queen exposure in markets and demographics they are not active in. Sadly it is simply business, these are great projects that keep the band relivant, what is produced from these projects is secondary to the exposure. From a business point of view it is a fantastic plan, not so much from an artistic point of view. They have done a great job keeping the band relevant, in a world without Freddie they are doing the best job they can. I would not like to see another new Queen+ album with Adam on vocals either, especially after the cosmos sucks. The Comos Rocks is shit from track 1 to the end, SINT is maybe the only exception. Generic, commercial, painting by numbers music with lyrics that induce motion sickness. Paul, Brian & Roger should be embarrassed by it, they are capable of so much more. |
| Vocal harmony 06.11.2014 08:34 |
Marknow wrote:I would not like to see another new Queen+ album with Adam on vocals either, especially after the cosmos sucks.Given the musical distance between let's say Jazz and Hot Space in four years. You weren't really expecting the first Queen album to feature a different singer to sound like classic 70's Queen, were you? |
| gerry 06.11.2014 08:44 |
Exactly thats my point Brian & Roger have robbed themselves of better things. They have wasted many years been Queen + whoever and that means they are not content with what they are doing. Freddie was my fav Queen member so naturally i will support him from all you guys on here who are not bothered who takes the lead vocalist roll. Artists at Freddies tribute concert had a lot of bother singing the Back Queen catalogue, Roger Daltrey, Robert Plant, Annie Lennox, Lisa Stansfield all struggled with Freds songs. Even Paul Young said Freddie was the only one who could do the songs justice. Now Brian May claimed in "Classic Rock" that AL could sing anything as well as Freddie! To hear that from Mr May just makes me think Brian has lost respect for Freddie, and just thinking about his bank balance. How could he say AL is on equal terms as a Rock Legend who is known the world over as Freddie Mercury? i feel hurt by that silly comment Brian. |
| The King Of Rhye 06.11.2014 08:54 |
I would just like to say one thing to you, gerry......................get bent!!!!!!!!!!! to hell with you...................... |
| gerry 06.11.2014 09:00 |
The king of rhye: The truth hurts doesnt it! Wake up you fool. |
| Marknow 06.11.2014 09:01 |
Vocal harmony wrote:Marknow wrote:No not at all. I did expect something better though considering the project was produced by three very accomplished artists. It is a very poor album in my opinion.I would not like to see another new Queen+ album with Adam on vocals either, especially after the cosmos sucks.Given the musical distance between let's say Jazz and Hot Space in four years. You weren't really expecting the first Queen album to feature a different singer to sound like classic 70's Queen, were you? |
| gerry 06.11.2014 09:16 |
Marknow: you are correct with what you say. The Cosmos Rocks was a poor album, and sounded rushed. We all know Paul Rodgers has a great rock voice but it was a shame the songs on the cosmos rocks let him and Queen down, even the single "C-LEBRITY flopped big time. I too have little faith in Queen recording with Lambo, as that too will flop. The songs are very important and i feel May & Taylor are past there creative days of making classics the way they used too. They can both play live and sound fantastic, but they do need a good singer with a personality. |
| Pingfah 06.11.2014 10:04 |
I thought Cosmos Rocks was a poor album too. I didn't expect it to sound like classic Queen, but i'd rather it hadn't sounded like Bad Company. It was just very... unadventurous, and that to me is the antithesis of what Queen were all about. The tour was great though, saw them at the NEC, and they blew the roof off. |
| Marknow 06.11.2014 10:07 |
gerry wrote: They can both play live and sound fantastic, but they do need a good singer with a personality. Yes indeed. I honestly believe that despite any of Al's shortcomings that he is a good singer with heaps of personality. He is not by any means an exceptional vocalist but he is a good one and although his style and delivery differs greatly from Freddie I do feel he is a better fit than Paul was. They do sound more like Queen than they did under Paul, Paul is a great vocalist, artist and performer with a fantastic 40+ years in the business but Adam does a better job fronting Queen on stage. I think Adam has a great personality on and off the stage, he has a great clean image, never lets himself down in the the media etc. He had a fantastic rapport with the audiences this year. I think the Killer Queen bit was brilliant, real tongue in check stuff, although I do acknowledge it made some people here feel sick! His introductions between songs were very good and often humorous. The "gimme that love" impromptu was very good in my opinion too, he had the arena singing along with him and it was all very natural and unrehearsed. I think he has bags of personality and humility. I often remember an interview Elton John did shortly after Freddie died, when asked about what the band should do now, he said something like "They should grab some kid, some nobody, somebody who is unknown, somebody who can do the songs justice because the music deserves to be heard". I fully agree with that sentiment and I wish they did that in 1992 as opposed to 2012. Adam is that guy though, it is such a shame for him and his credibility that he came into prominence through "Idol". People can not accept that type of lineage for somebody fronting Queen and that is fair I suppose but it does not diminish him in my opinion. |
| brENsKi 06.11.2014 10:25 |
gerry wrote: The songs are very important and i feel May & Taylor are past there creative days of making classics the way they used too. as if the weight of expectation and pressure from the dickhead demands of "fans" like you was ever going to be borne well by them. They never had a fucking chance....always bound to fail with everything they try. With cretins like you absolutely refusing to accept any kind of change entering your stepford world, Bri & Roger's choice of continuing or stopping dead was always going to be damned if the do, damned if they don't. You bang on endlessly about Freddie like he was some kind of God, Perhaps you should let them get on with things without YOUR constant sniping? As Freddie wrote in his most famous song: "Carry on, carry on as if nothing really matters." why don't YOU follow Freddie's lead? |
| Band Forever 06.11.2014 10:51 |
I saw one of the write ups to promote the latest tracks as Queen feat Freddie Mercury (Disrespectful in the least). Queen was Freddie, Brian, John and Roger. Freddie wasn't a guest singer he was and is part of the fabric, unlike these Stand Ins Paul Rodgers and Adam La La Lambert. However on a positive note I think LMIYH is an amazing track, with Freddie's vocals stellartastic! Hope Universal Records can cajole Brian and Roger into finishing off some of the other tracks recorded with Freddie's vocals. Alas it's a pity so many demos have been leaked on the net. |
| gerry 06.11.2014 11:00 |
Brenski: What a bitter twisted Queen you are! you love to slate my sensible posts because you know i speak the truth for many Queen ardent Queen fans. Freddie was god in Queen he got the band noticed and without him there would have been no Queen, so put your foot back up your arse. Oh and by the way i know your vocabulary is limited so do not use the word stepford again, clever girl. |
| Marknow 06.11.2014 11:35 |
Band Forever wrote: I saw one of the write ups to promote the latest tracks as Queen feat Freddie Mercury (Disrespectful in the least) They were introduced onto the stage at the rock awards to collect their prize this week as "Adam Lambert & Queen" :( |
| brENsKi 06.11.2014 11:35 |
^^^^ All mimsy were the borogoves And the mome raths outgrabe. Gezza...You are the perfect hybrid of a borogrove and a mome rath |
| Martin Packer 06.11.2014 13:28 |
I won't defend Dappy but I WILL defend the nice piece of guitar Brian played. So I'm more phlegmatic about the vehicles that get Brian and Roger playing. |
| Marknow 06.11.2014 13:39 |
Martin Packer wrote: I won't defend Dappy but I WILL defend the nice piece of guitar Brian played. So I'm more phlegmatic about the vehicles that get Brian and Roger playing. I had to Google "phlegmatic" :) |
| master marathon runner 06.11.2014 18:36 |
Christ there's some shit here. Face up to it, listen to what Gerry is saying !! |
| matt z 06.11.2014 22:01 |
Lol. Adam Lambert AND queen. What fun. What majesty. |
| Vocal harmony 07.11.2014 07:51 |
gerry wrote: Brenski: What a bitter twisted Queen you are! you love to slate my sensible posts because you know i speak the truth for many Queen ardent Queen fans. Freddie was god in Queen he got the band noticed and without him there would have been no Queen, so put your foot back up your arse. Oh and by the way i know your vocabulary is limited so do not use the word stepford again, clever girl.Have you actually thought this one through, Freddie joined BM and RT, who had already recorded in Smile, that band featured multi tracked guitars and vocal harmony arrangements, both of which would feature in the Queen sound, and in fact if you hear some of Freddie's demo from that period they sound awful. So far from being god, he was one of four people who worked together well, he was also lucky to step into a band situation which had already planned much of it's future sound. Get over the fact that Freddie wasn't everything, he was part of the whole. Another thing you should try to get over is that the two guys who gave Freddie a platform are still working together, and doing what they love, and why shouldn't they? |