| winterspelt 28.10.2014 00:24 |
Another interview with Roger. Among other interesting things, Roger said it was Universal who pushed for the MJ track, the European tour, Forever... link |
| john bodega 28.10.2014 02:53 |
A multiple car pile-up is interesting. So was the Tiananmen Square massacre. |
| Martin Packer 28.10.2014 04:06 |
Recording with AL would be a "put up or shut up" moment; Something good, bad or ugly will come out. :-) |
| MercurialFreddie 28.10.2014 04:51 |
"It was really something the record company wanted," Taylor says, "and we did have these three tracks that have never been heard, so we tried to put together an interesting collection." It's a shame that the idea didn't come out of BM & RT. And what exactly 3 tracks haven't been heard :D ? Only LMIYHA wasn't heard. Where the flying duck was GB when this project began ? He would surely present to Brian and Roger a list of more than 3 tracks which remain unreleased. It's really a shame that the record company had to push musicians to work in a studio. If they really don't want to work on the demos/unifinished tracks then it's time to compile the Queen studio anthology and focus on the live material. |
| Mercurydoc 28.10.2014 05:53 |
MercurialFreddie wrote: "It was really something the record company wanted," Taylor says, "and we did have these three tracks that have never been heard, so we tried to put together an interesting collection." It's a shame that the idea didn't come out of BM & RT. And what exactly 3 tracks haven't been heard :D ? Only LMIYHA wasn't heard. Where the flying duck was GB when this project began ? He would surely present to Brian and Roger a list of more than 3 tracks which remain unreleased. It's really a shame that the record company had to push musicians to work in a studio. If they really don't want to work on the demos/unifinished tracks then it's time to compile the Queen studio anthology and focus on the live material.I think he's referring to the 3 tracks that are going to appear on the album |
| tomchristie22 28.10.2014 07:54 |
He was referring to these three, yes, but it's incorrect to say Love Kills and There Must Be More to Life Than This have 'never been heard'. |
| andyb1968 28.10.2014 11:15 |
Its sounds like a record company putting the squeeze on the artists to get something out for the Xmas market, and let's have some bonus tracks to make it even more marketable, QF was due out last Xmas remember, basically what I'm saying is that it was a rush job, had Brian & Roger been given carte blanche we may have seen a very different product, with more unreleased tracks. My gut feeling is that we will see some more unheard tracks, but not a lot. |
| tero! 48531 28.10.2014 12:08 |
If the record company hadn't wanted a new compilation with bonustracks, Brian and Roger would have been happy to sell the same old Greatest Hits albums without working on anything. Just like the 2 cd releases from 2011 wouldn't have had even those 5 bonus tracks if Universal hadn't insisted on a bonus disc. |
| winterspelt 28.10.2014 14:04 |
tero! 48531 wrote: If the record company hadn't wanted a new compilation with bonustracks, Brian and Roger would have been happy to sell the same old Greatest Hits albums without working on anything. Just like the 2 cd releases from 2011 wouldn't have had even those 5 bonus tracks if Universal hadn't insisted on a bonus disc.I think its a little bit unfair to claim that. Of course its in the best interest of the band to release some unreleased stuff from time to time, I think they had it all already planed before changing record label, it would give them a better position in negotiations and ask for a lot more money. My bet is that there was another label giving lots of money for the Queen catalog, if it werent the case, then Universal might as well just wait and have the catalog as part of the EMI deal. Im sure Universal must have a few unreleased stuff already finished, ready for a release date. -------------------------------------------- I think Roger is talking about Universal pushing for the MJ track. Perhaps they werent interested in releasing it (let's face it, the song is below average for people as talented as Freddie AND Michael Jackson) but Universal saw the chance to cash an additional money at the benefit of having the MJ album released a few months before. |
| mooghead 28.10.2014 14:15 |
"Its sounds like a record company putting the squeeze on the artists to get something out for the Xmas market" Which is fair enough, in this case the record company cannot be demonised (not that demons exist ;-) they invest a lot of money in the future output of artists, especially established ones with big vaults..... |
| Nitroboy 28.10.2014 17:16 |
Taylor adds that the group did film a show in Sydney and also recorded audio every night, which will result in some sort of release "that will be out there at some point," though no details have been determined.I'm actually surprised they did this :D |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 28.10.2014 17:54 |
Is simple, Universal want to recover and gain money...and Roger and Brian were liars talking about non famous songs...Only one inedit really. Love Kills is a remake (bad, I preffer always the original disco song), and There must be...is a remix. |
| Negative Creep 28.10.2014 18:23 |
andyb1968 wrote: Its sounds like a record company putting the squeeze on the artists to get something out for the Xmas market, and let's have some bonus tracks to make it even more marketable, QF was due out last Xmas remember, basically what I'm saying is that it was a rush job, had Brian & Roger been given carte blanche we may have seen a very different product, with more unreleased tracks. My gut feeling is that we will see some more unheard tracks, but not a lot.I think it's far more likely that Universal are continuing to push for unreleased material and this is all they could get out of QPL. Brian actively doesn't want to let any of the archive out, so it's absurd to suggest Universal are holding back! Christ alive! |
| MercurialFreddie 28.10.2014 18:48 |
They better be pushing for releasing *proper* unheard material. As for the TMBMTLTT... it can be considered as unheard as the majority of Freddie's vocal is taken from earlier takes. Esp. the beginning of the new mix, he sounds so "young" there / as compared to his raspy voice [Bad Guy solo version] but his part "...so this is life" just before MJ goes in is definitely taken from the official solo 1985 version. Maybe we can trust Roger's word that this performance [in this case - the majority of it] is from 1981 ? |
| tomchristie22 28.10.2014 20:02 |
Nitroboy wrote:Me too. I was there, it was really surreal. Not only was I seeing Brian and Roger play, having resigned to the fact they'd never come to Australia before they announced it - they also happened to be filming that show. Pretty coolTaylor adds that the group did film a show in Sydney and also recorded audio every night, which will result in some sort of release "that will be out there at some point," though no details have been determined.I'm actually surprised they did this :D |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 28.10.2014 21:07 |
Could be other takes of There must be more..., from the Mr. Bad Guy sessions. Could be taken from that. |
| tero! 48531 29.10.2014 00:42 |
winterspelt wrote: I think its a little bit unfair to claim that. Of course its in the best interest of the band to release some unreleased stuff from time to time, I think they had it all already planed before changing record label, it would give them a better position in negotiations and ask for a lot more money.QP: So, were thinking of changing record label... Are you interested? How much will you pay us? U: Of course we are interested. The money depends of what YOU can offer us. I think you will be worth a lot more to us if you can provide the material for 2cd deluxe editions of all the studio albums. QP: Err... Sure. How much bonus material does one album need? U: Well, typically we have at least an equal amount of bonus material and previously released material. But the bonus material can be anything you like. A concert, single b-sides, 12" remixes, demo versions of the album... If you only have a handful of demo recordings from an album left, you can use remixes, etc. And if you have more material, we can even make it a 3 cd set. QP: Okay... So we need five bonus tracks for each album... Do the previously released "cd bonus tracks" count as well? They weren't included on the original vinyl album, after all... U: I didn't say five tracks, I said you don't have to have a full disc of demos! I suppose the cd bonus tracks could be used for the deluxe edition bonus... If it's only a few tracks, it's not a huge deal either way. QP: Hmm... I think it's going to be tough to find five tracks for each album... Couldn't you make a bonus cd with three tracks? And I think you could save at least 5p for each record if you included the three bonus tracks on the SAME disc instead of pressing another disc. U: The whole idea is to make a spectacular re-release which expands the original album, and makes the the customers fee like their getting value for their money when they buy the albums again! That doesn't happen with three bonus tracks on the same disc, because that's what we did in the 90's! Three exclusive tracks is what we need on a compilation! QP: Oh... Are you telling me that we can't just re-release the Greatest Hits? It is after all the best selling album in the UK. U: We don't want to sell a hundred thousand copies of the best selling album in the UK, we want to sell a million copies of an average album, with the Universal label on it. Do you think you can find three new songs worthy of a Queen compilation album? QP: I suppose it's possible...Hey, we're thinking of touring with Adam Lambert. What if we record some live tracks with him? U: In that case, I don't think Universal is the right company for you. QP: Oh... Err... I think we could find some Freddie tracks from the vault, and perhaps re-record those. U: Now that sounds like something we're interested in... What about live recordings? Do you have anything interesting to offer to us? Something with video footage as well? QP: I don't know if you've heard of it, but we do have this little thing called Live at Wembley... It was released on VHS back in 1990, and it really deserves a bigger audience. It's got all the hits, after all! U: Do you have anything else? QP: Err... I don't know... I guess we have have the Montreal show from 1981? Milton Keynes from 1982? Rio from 1985? U: Do you have anything from the 70's? QP: Err... I... Umm... I don't remember. I have to check from our archivist. Can I get back to you next week? |
| flash00. 29.10.2014 10:26 |
Brian and Roger were quite happy to sign on the dotted line and take the cash as it were and continue keep re-re-re-releasing Greatest Hits or Live at Wembley as if they have never been heard before, sometimes it's hilarious watching either one of them on some TV show trying to flog old product as new the only thing new would be a nice sticker on the front saying "Limited Edition". I don't know about others but it seems there is a bigger buzz about the new unheard track LMIYHA as opposed to all the hype about the two remixes which should be a massive wakeup for Brian and Roger they should of released the new song with a great promo video instead of Love Kills. It will be interesting to see if it comes off in the studio I.e moody Brian and his hissy fits as it seems Roger can work with anyone (coughs Paul Rogers) if an album is made it will just sound like a rock/pop sounding Adam Lambert album just like imo the Cosmos Rocks sounded like a full blown Paul Rogers album. I think an album of many different singers with Brian and Roger would be more appealing or maybe not. I think Brian and Roger thought they would have an easy lazy ride with Universal, message to Universal keep squeezing lol. |
| Rugby_guy 29.10.2014 13:33 |
Roger has lost the plot and now considering recording in the studio with AL, O.M.F.G please do not do this Roger the tours were embarrassing enough but not a cd of the american doof! |
| The King Of Rhye 29.10.2014 13:39 |
flash00. wrote: It will be interesting to see if it comes off in the studio I.e moody Brian and his hissy fits as it seems Roger can work with anyone (coughs Paul Rogers) if an album is made it will just sound like a rock/pop sounding Adam Lambert album just like imo the Cosmos Rocks sounded like a full blown Paul Rogers album. I think an album of many different singers with Brian and Roger would be more appealing or maybe not. I think Brian and Roger thought they would have an easy lazy ride with Universal, message to Universal keep squeezing lol.Hmm..............ok, a rock-sounding Adam Lambert record with Brian and Roger playing and writing the songs? That sounds pretty good to me actually! Stuff like Aftermath but with a heavy Queen sound.............Maybe with a funkier number or two (ala Trespassing).......for one thing, I think it would sound way more Queen-like than TCR................. I'd be cool with either that, or what I was thinking about the other day..............say an album with half songs sung by Brian and/or Roger, and the other half guest singers.....(who? I dunno.......Adam and Kerry would be the obvious choices.......maybe Paul while we're at it........(could do a new version of Take Love!!)..........Justin Hawkins would be good..........) |
| andyb1968 29.10.2014 16:58 |
I remember Roger's interview at the cyberbarn concert saying that he and Brian had talked about recording a Queen album with guest singers... what happened ? |