QueenZone discussion #1403780

cmsdrums wrote: I just love listening to John's superbly melodic and 'vocal' basslines - he was never a 'thrash and plod away on the root note' type of bass player. He always left room for everything to breathe, whereas others would have filled the gaps with inappropriate low end. His absence was prominent on 'The Cosmos Rocks'. The Millionaire's Waltz, Play The Game, Jealousy, Cool Cat all spring to mind, but the whole of A Day At The Races and Jazz are just fantastic examples of his playing.

Pingfah wrote: I have quite a few friends who are not really big Queen fans, but they all agree that John Deacon is an amazing bassist. I don't know about him being underrated, I would say he is one of the most recognisable and respected names in the world as far as bassists go, probably because several of Queen's biggest hits are famous specifically for their basslines, not something you could say about most bands.

fras444 wrote: A interesting quote from Dave Mustaine A band is like a hierarchy. You have the lead singer the leader of the band then you have the Guitarist then next down you have the drummer and at the bottom you have the Bassist. Besides the bass isn't a difficult instrument to play. It's one step up from the kazoo isn't it?

waunakonor wrote
Haha! Dave Mustaine is an asshole who just needs to keep his mouth shut. No way is the bass not a difficult instrument to play. He probably thinks he's some kind of musical god for being able to sloppily go "widdily widdily widdily" in every single one of his solos with little to no melody or emotional interest.
How has "I'm Going Slightly Mad" not been mentioned yet? Deaky's just going nuts, especially during the verses and the outro. Easily more groove and finesse throughout that song than Mustaine's ever been able to do in his life.
haha totally!! you know what are his solos and what ones are Marty Friedman solos when he was in the band and without looking at the booklet.. Hanger 18 has some of the best guitar work from Marty... biggest lost to Megadeth that amazing guitarist!!!
Yip I mentioned it at the end there mate "Slightly Mad" too lazy to write the whole thing out... I reckon it has the most "consistent" start to end song with bass from John and that little bass run right at the end is in away John bowing out of music... Its a lot like Cliff Burton's masterpiece Call of ktulu how his bass is predominate throughout that whole 8 min song "instrumental"

Jake12 wrote: The begging of Keep Yourself Alive live in Montreal! Love the beat! link

waunakonor wrote:

fras444 wrote: A interesting quote from Dave Mustaine A band is like a hierarchy. You have the lead singer the leader of the band then you have the Guitarist then next down you have the drummer and at the bottom you have the Bassist. Besides the bass isn't a difficult instrument to play. It's one step up from the kazoo isn't it?

Haha! Dave Mustaine is an asshole who just needs to keep his mouth shut. No way is the bass not a difficult instrument to play. He probably thinks he's some kind of musical god for being able to sloppily go "widdily widdily widdily" in every single one of his solos with little to no melody or emotional interest. How has "I'm Going Slightly Mad" not been mentioned yet? Deaky's just going nuts, especially during the verses and the outro. Easily more groove and finesse throughout that song than Mustaine's ever been able to do in his life.

matt z wrote:
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Listing to the bass part during and after the Guitar solo is fucken cool man more you listen out for that bass the more you appreciate the unique spin John has on the four strings.
RafaelSomma
As a bassist myself I find it very hard to play John's bass lines. I can't describe his style but he's very free spirited and melodic. Whereas other bass players would go the easy way, he chooses the hard way and being very creative. You can compare him with Flea and Cliff Burton in term of creativity. although they have totally different styles. John wasn't able to sing. But he let sang his bass instead.
Mate that is so true a lot of bassist out there just the same old boring for argument's sake ffffff ggggg notes through the whole song... John is like an artist and Freddie, Brian and Roger are his canvas, he free styles through the whole song.. there is an odd exception though such as hammer to fall where he sticks with the same bass notes. But to a great effect!.

RafaelSomma wrote:
You can compare him with Flea and Cliff Burton in term of creativity. although they have totally different styles.
Love Orion!!! Hey all you Queen members who are not huge... metal/metallica fans... listen at around 3.47 into the song Orion. The bass interlude is awesome a lot similar to John Deacons bass playing and after the first solo there is another little one... That's done on bass and it sounds very similar to John Deacon when he was holding that high bass note after the final vocal on Lap of the Gods rainbow
John wasn't able to sing. But he let sang his bass instead.
haha But was John unable to sing......? No you are to right there, he also told little stories with his bass to.

The King Of Rhye wrote:

waunakonor wrote:

fras444 wrote: A interesting quote from Dave Mustaine A band is like a hierarchy. You have the lead singer the leader of the band then you have the Guitarist then next down you have the drummer and at the bottom you have the Bassist. Besides the bass isn't a difficult instrument to play. It's one step up from the kazoo isn't it?

Haha! Dave Mustaine is an asshole who just needs to keep his mouth shut. No way is the bass not a difficult instrument to play. He probably thinks he's some kind of musical god for being able to sloppily go "widdily widdily widdily" in every single one of his solos with little to no melody or emotional interest. How has "I'm Going Slightly Mad" not been mentioned yet? Deaky's just going nuts, especially during the verses and the outro. Easily more groove and finesse throughout that song than Mustaine's ever been able to do in his life.

I always thought Dave was primarily the rhythm guitar player in Megadeth.......while he sorta had an assortment of various lead guitarists throughout the years...............(now Marty Friedman for one, was a badass.......)

The King Of Rhye wrote:

waunakonor wrote:

fras444 wrote: A interesting quote from Dave Mustaine A band is like a hierarchy. You have the lead singer the leader of the band then you have the Guitarist then next down you have the drummer and at the bottom you have the Bassist. Besides the bass isn't a difficult instrument to play. It's one step up from the kazoo isn't it?

Haha! Dave Mustaine is an asshole who just needs to keep his mouth shut. No way is the bass not a difficult instrument to play. He probably thinks he's some kind of musical god for being able to sloppily go "widdily widdily widdily" in every single one of his solos with little to no melody or emotional interest. How has "I'm Going Slightly Mad" not been mentioned yet? Deaky's just going nuts, especially during the verses and the outro. Easily more groove and finesse throughout that song than Mustaine's ever been able to do in his life.

I always thought Dave was primarily the rhythm guitar player in Megadeth.......while he sorta had an assortment of various lead guitarists throughout the years...............(now Marty Friedman for one, was a badass.......)

The King Of Rhye wrote:
WTF is up with the quote thing...?

waunakonor wrote:
I always thought Dave was primarily the rhythm guitar player in Megadeth.......while he sorta had an assortment of various lead guitarists throughout the years...............(now Marty Friedman for one, was a badass.......)
Yeah man he played lead on every album and on almost every track in Megadeth's back catalog... Haha maybe trying to make a point to his former band mates at metallica should never have fired him and that Kirk is shit...? Probably the reason why Marty left as Dave was getting all the credit.
The best song to listen to, to get the best comparison between Dave and Friedman is Hanger 18 the song with "like 20 solos in it" at 3.50 after some slick sweep picking by Marty, Dave's solo begins and it alternates between the two after that, and pretty much that song will help you get your ear into the diff between Marty and Daves solo styles for all other songs. It has it in all of the album's booklet who does the solos...

gerry wrote: John performed a great Bass on "Flash" and instantly recognisable!

fras444 wrote:

The King Of Rhye wrote: WTF is up with the quote thing...?

waunakonor wrote: I always thought Dave was primarily the rhythm guitar player in Megadeth.......while he sorta had an assortment of various lead guitarists throughout the years...............(now Marty Friedman for one, was a badass.......) Yeah man he played lead on every album and on almost every track in Megadeth's back catalog... Haha maybe trying to make a point to his former band mates at metallica should never have fired him and that Kirk is shit...? Probably the reason why Marty left as Dave was getting all the credit. The best song to listen to, to get the best comparison between Dave and Friedman is Hanger 18 the song with "like 20 solos in it" at 3.50 after some slick sweep picking by Marty, Dave's solo begins and it alternates between the two after that, and pretty much that song will help you get your ear into the diff between Marty and Daves solo styles for all other songs. It has it in all of the album's booklet who does the solos...

Guess my knowledge of Megadeth aint what I thought it was........I'll check that one out again.................