| Mr.Mouth 18.10.2014 11:31 |
Im betting on it... He would be forgoten or sing somebodys else writting songs and do poor pop music with annoying todays pop electric sounds,if you know what I mean,sorry for my english my fellow friends and Queenzoners.. PLease writte your opinions. "Such a clean machine" "Im a cherub" |
| KumoNin 18.10.2014 11:34 |
There's a separate forum for this bullshit. "i dont' now how To do singatures " |
| Chief Mouse 18.10.2014 12:06 |
Mr.Mouth wrote: Im betting on it... He would be forgoten or sing somebodys else writting songs and do poor pop music with annoying todays pop electric sounds,if you know what I mean,sorry for my english my fellow friends and Queenzoners.. PLease writte your opinions. "Such a clean machine" "Im a cherub" Please check my post here. Don't make me feel like I wasted 5 minutes of my life there :P http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1402719.html |
| brENsKi 18.10.2014 12:18 |
Chief Mouse wrote:you're pissing into the wind fellaMr.Mouth wrote: Im betting on it... He would be forgoten or sing somebodys else writting songs and do poor pop music with annoying todays pop electric sounds,if you know what I mean,sorry for my english my fellow friends and Queenzoners.. PLease writte your opinions. "Such a clean machine" "Im a cherub"Please check my post here. Don't make me feel like I wasted 5 minutes of my life there :P http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1402719.html |
| Mr.Mouth 18.10.2014 12:21 |
Chief Mouse wrote:You didnt waste your time friend.Mr.Mouth wrote: Im betting on it... He would be forgoten or sing somebodys else writting songs and do poor pop music with annoying todays pop electric sounds,if you know what I mean,sorry for my english my fellow friends and Queenzoners.. PLease writte your opinions. "Such a clean machine" "Im a cherub"Please check my post here. Don't make me feel like I wasted 5 minutes of my life there :P http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1402719.html I did it..Thank you fellow Queenzoner. |
| brENsKi 18.10.2014 12:58 |
nice one ^^^ |
| waunakonor 18.10.2014 13:38 |
I think that solely thanks to Queen he's going to be remembered for considerably longer than he would have otherwise. |
| mooghead 18.10.2014 14:23 |
Threads like this make him live on..... |
| david (galashiels) 18.10.2014 17:12 |
for fuck sake.leave the guy alone......genesis replaced there singer as did many other bands.....if you don't like him don't listen or watch him....but this constant hatred of lead singers in the band is getting past its sell by date...I assume you would have preferred the band to stop touring and making records without the complete line up..that was never going to happen.....the way I see it is...QUEEN will continue as long as they can(for money or other reasons),and as long as the band continue I will listen buy tickets and records.......I am not one of those who says no fred no queen.....but cmon,stop the constant hatred of choices for singer.......if you are not happy,go listen to some bands who are still complete....but please please stop the moaning....just listen to the music for fuck sake.....PS..looking forward to the new lighting rig |
| david (galashiels) 18.10.2014 17:16 |
would this hatred have continued if fred was still going and deeky not......I don't think so |
| Russian Headlong 18.10.2014 18:24 |
Lambert is awful. A c lebrity karaoke singer who would like to be Freddie mercury but isn't fit to lace his ballet shoes. I am so disappointed bm and rt have been lulled into think he is good enough to front Queen. Paul Rodgers was his own man, wonderful singer,not a Freddie wannabe and although his style didn't suit all queen songs he blows lambert away. |
| inu-liger 18.10.2014 19:01 |
Speaking of Genesis and comparisons, at least I'm sure the Lambert haters would still agree Lambert makes a much better effort than Ray Wilson did. Hell, Lambert doesn't need songs tuned down FOUR keys for instance like Ray did on songs like "Land Of Confusion" |
| waunakonor 18.10.2014 19:12 |
david (galashiels) wrote: would this hatred have continued if fred was still going and deeky not......I don't think soOff topic, but is that Marc Martel in your avatar? Russian Headlong wrote: Paul Rodgers was his own man, wonderful singer,not a Freddie wannabe and although his style didn't suit all queen songs he blows lambert away.AL's performing style is pretty distinct as well. He's hardly a Freddie clone. |
| gerry 19.10.2014 04:07 |
David (galashiels) A lead singer in a group is very very important because its what gives the group charisma and ambience not to mention the lead singer has to work the crowds. Freddie Mercury is probably the only singer in the history of rock n roll who can not be replaced ever, meaning Queen will not look or sound he same ever again. Brian and Roger are aware of this but because they are well off they are not bothered, as long as they have a nobody to sing the songs thats it. Pretty sad i know but they have lost a lot of interest from Queen fans but gained new fans because of Madam Lambert. Horses for courses. I have however decided to be only interested in the original Queen group from 1971 to 1991, because Queen are only on low power now without Freddie and John, and i agree with a post earlier on here that Paul Rogers was 100% better than Lambert. Lambert looks freaky and confused on that stage with May and Taylor, a very very bad choice for a group that was classed "The greatest group on earth" in the 80s. One thing is for sure, Queen will never hold that title ever again, not without Freddie, for he was the heart of Queen. |
| brENsKi 19.10.2014 04:54 |
you're over-romanticising of Freddie is way, way off the scale. You can't simply discount the possibility of there being a good/great/better replacement for Freddie, on the basis that you don't like the current singer. Replacements can work - sometimes better than the original singer. Freddie wasn't Brian & Roger's first lead singer. just think how things may have worked out if your "no replacements" rule was applied. |
| gerry 19.10.2014 05:14 |
Queen were not Queen when freddie replaced Tim Staffell they were "Smile", and if it was not for Freddie Queen would not have existed. Freddie gave the band that style, very grand, polished feel and he invented the Queen crest. He was like what a spark plug is in a car. No spark plug no car, No Freddie no Queen. |
| brENsKi 19.10.2014 05:22 |
electric cars don't need spark plugs. and in any case, if freddie was the spark plug, then who was the steering wheel? and are you calling Adam Lambert a "spare tyre" ? |
| gerry 19.10.2014 05:26 |
Adam Lambert does not have any input in Queen, why should he. He does very little apart from screach and look like a lesbian cat! |
| david (galashiels) 19.10.2014 08:22 |
yes it is marc |
| The King Of Rhye 19.10.2014 08:42 |
gerry wrote: Queen were not Queen when freddie replaced Tim Staffell they were "Smile", and if it was not for Freddie Queen would not have existed. Freddie gave the band that style, very grand, polished feel and he invented the Queen crest. He was like what a spark plug is in a car. No spark plug no car, No Freddie no Queen.I made an analogy like this a while ago, but here I go again.............. One can replace the spark plugs in a car, you know................. |
| Saint Jiub 19.10.2014 09:28 |
mooghead wrote: Threads like this make him live on..... |
| queenfanbg 19.10.2014 09:56 |
yes he is "B" class,while Frieddie was "A +" |
| Mr. Bed Guy 19.10.2014 10:15 |
"Speaking of Genesis and comparisons, at least I'm sure the Lambert haters would still agree Lambert makes a much better effort than Ray Wilson did. Hell, Lambert doesn't need songs tuned down FOUR keys for instance like Ray did on songs like "Land Of Confusion"" Maybe right. But Ray Wilson was a rock singer before and after Genesis. He did a great job at Genesis and does it til today. Saw him live several times. Great. Underrated. But public wanted the poppy Phil Collins. AL is a plastic pop baby which would already have been forgotten if he hadn't get that Queen-job.... Alternatives of same type could have been Jason Donovan or Mr. Blobby. |
| Mr.Mouth 19.10.2014 10:26 |
Yes Mr. Bed Guy you are right. Word! |
| gerry 19.10.2014 11:28 |
Mr Blobby would have made a better job than AL. lol |
| brENsKi 19.10.2014 12:21 |
gerry wrote: He does very little apart from screachso in essence, you're admitting he's not a "spare tyre" he's ALL of the "wheels and tyres" |
| EDWOOD 19.10.2014 18:33 |
A lesbian cat?! Lol. I couldn't really care less about the ongoing antics of QAL to be honest. I hope the tour is successful and the guys enjoy doing it but that's about as far as it goes. Queen were the 4 original members of the band, and no I don't mean the few bass players they had before John Deacon joined. No matter what Brian says, he knows this ISNT the same as what they had before 1991. I can remember when Queen Rocks came out and he commented on the recording of 'No-One But You' - basically the gist of it was they were trying to do a Queen track without Queen. He and Roger know this current 'line-up' is just showcasing Queen's music to a new audience. It doesn't impact on anything they did pre-1991. As long as they don't forget their history and occasionally release product from the period 1970-1997 that'll be fine with me. They look like they are listening at least and maybe people like Greg Brooks, Gary Taylor and Rhys Thomas are some of the reasons why we got Rainbow and the few additional tracks on Forever this year. Maybe they need a kick up the backside once in a while to get them to release this stuff we've all been asking for since around 2000. |
| Sheer Brass Neck 19.10.2014 20:55 |
^^^ Excellent post. Good sentiments towards the success of the project while understanding that it's nostalgia for times that can never be replicated. People who believe this is Queen or that this is the best live they've ever been are stepfords or delusional. It's 50% of the band trying to keep the brand alive which os awesome, but they are a shadow of Queen of the 70s and 80s. |
| Pingfah 20.10.2014 05:08 |
He's had two top 3 Billboard albums, he already is a rock star. |
| gerry 20.10.2014 08:41 |
Girls again wasting there pocket monies! Lambert will not break into in the uk, i am sure of that. He is now too reliant on May & Taylor and if they were not around he would disappear like fairy liquid down the sink! lol |
| Pingfah 20.10.2014 09:51 |
Probably not no, he's a winner of an American TV show, no real reason why Brits should be interested in him outside of Queen. This is the biggest gig of his life though, by a long long stretch. To frame it as anything but a massive win for the guy is idiotic. |
| The King Of Rhye 20.10.2014 13:06 |
EDWOOD wrote: No matter what Brian says, he knows this ISNT the same as what they had before 1991.When and where did Brian say that it is? |
| SweetCaroline 20.10.2014 15:06 |
Pingfah wrote: He's had two top 3 Billboard albums, he already is a rock star.That's right! Adam's talent is genuine and cannot be denied. There are others who are quickie chart toppers like One Direction, Iggy Azalea, etc. but Adam will prevail on a long-term basis. Adam was not the winner on American Idol; he came in second because Middle America voted for the boring WGWG over the charismatic gay guy with the fabulous voice! |
| SweetCaroline 20.10.2014 16:02 |
gerry, Mr. Bad Guy and Mr. Mouth, etc., I have a suggestion for you. Go to a show in the UK or Europe wherever you live and then come back here and give your opinions, positive or negative. Until then, you have zero credibility! LOL |
| brENsKi 20.10.2014 16:17 |
SweetCaroline wrote:your comparisons are idiotic.Pingfah wrote:He's had two top 3 Billboard albums, he already is a rock star.That's right! Adam's talent is genuine and cannot be denied. There are others who are quickie chart toppers like One Direction, Iggy Azalea, etc. but Adam will prevail on a long-term basis. Adam was not the winner on American Idol; he came in second because Middle America voted for the boring WGWG over the charismatic gay guy with the fabulous voice! Adam Lambert - American Idol 2009 One Direction - XFactor 2010 Adam Lambert - American Idol - finalist finished 2nd place One Direction - Xfactor - finalist finished 3rd place i see very little difference between them - so your point is in fact NOT a point. If anything, you point falls into negative value when you consider one thing - 1D - who YOU chose as your AL comparator have managed ONE huge thing that AL hasn't. AL - American - 3 top 10 USA albums / 1x top 10 USA single....ZERO UK top 10 albums or singles. 1D - UK - 3 UK no1 albums / 10x top 10 Uk singles (3x no1) 1d - 3x USA no1 albums / 4x top10 USA singles. So you see, 1d have managed success on BOTH sides of the Atlantic - ie HOME & AWAY wins In fact, 1D have had more success on AL home territory than AL has...lol |
| Oscar J 20.10.2014 16:50 |
"Adam will prevail on a long-term basis". No he won't... He's free riding a bit on this whole American Idol/Queen+ wave. He'll be forgotten in five years. |
| SweetCaroline 20.10.2014 18:28 |
Oscar J wrote: "Adam will prevail on a long-term basis". No he won't... He's free riding a bit on this whole American Idol/Queen+ wave. He'll be forgotten in five years.That's what a lot of people said about Adam 5 years ago in 2009 and he is doing better than ever (yes, to a great extent because of this golden opportunity to tour with the Queen guys). One Direction are doing great now because they appeal to their adoring teens and tweens fanbase -- until the next cute boy band comes along. They are already being competed with by the 5 Seconds Of Summer boys from Australia. My point is that Adam is not a teen idol and his talent will carry him into the future whether it is more solo albums, TV and possibly movies. He has more options than the 1D boys do on a longer range basis. |
| Sheer Brass Neck 20.10.2014 21:35 |
Does he have a record contract? |
| Pingfah 21.10.2014 02:49 |
Adam Lambert will almost certainly go into theatre & musicals after the Queen thing is done. I'm sure he will continue to release original music, but I don't see him sustaining chart success for many years to come. He'll be taking lead parts on Broadway for his main gig. He's got the vocal talents, stage presence and star power for Broadway, but not the all round musical and songwriting ability you need for a long term career as a solo rock artist producing original material. He's an entertainer. |
| gerry 21.10.2014 05:24 |
That is what i have been saying all along, Lambert would be good for theatre and the west end musicals, but leading a group where classed as the greatest group on earth in the 80s i think not. Queen are too big for Lambert. |
| brENsKi 21.10.2014 07:28 |
SweetCaroline wrote:being a "teen idol" does not exclude the possibility or reduce the likelihood of career longevity. Just ask Take ThatOscar J wrote: "Adam will prevail on a long-term basis". No he won't... He's free riding a bit on this whole American Idol/Queen+ wave. He'll be forgotten in five years.That's what a lot of people said about Adam 5 years ago in 2009 and he is doing better than ever (yes, to a great extent because of this golden opportunity to tour with the Queen guys). One Direction are doing great now because they appeal to their adoring teens and tweens fanbase -- until the next cute boy band comes along. They are already being competed with by the 5 Seconds Of Summer boys from Australia. My point is that Adam is not a teen idol and his talent will carry him into the future whether it is more solo albums, TV and possibly movies. He has more options than the 1D boys do on a longer range basis. |
| gerry 21.10.2014 07:35 |
I certainly do not think Adam will be around after the Queen fame fizzles out. 5 years time and he will be struggling on his own, for he has had it all on a plate because of May & Taylor, strip that away and erm.... he is flat on his arse! |
| Vocal harmony 21.10.2014 07:44 |
gerry wrote: That is what i have been saying all along, Lambert would be good for theatre and the west end musicals, but leading a group where classed as the greatest group on earth in the 80s i think not. Queen are too big for Lambert.That is not what you have been saying, you've said over and over again that Lambert is crap and you've Added insults at both him and those who disagree with you. As for the band being to big for him, Queen no longer sell in the volume they used too, but that's how the business is. As a live band they are back to selling out arenas around the world, so maybe you need to listen to what people who have been to a show have to say |
| Pingfah 21.10.2014 08:41 |
I don't think he would make a good singer for Queen in the studio, but for a world tour he's what they need. They don't need a great songwriter, or a genius musician, or somebody as famous as they are. They need a young guy with a good voice who knows stagecraft, and can around for 2 hours. He's got all that, so, fine. |
| gerry 21.10.2014 08:57 |
vocal harmony: it a discussion so it swings either way and this is not my thread i have just aired my opinion. sure they are selling the shows only on 2 reasons, 1, its Brian and Roger. 2, All the girlies like adam Lambert. Queen are running on half an engine. Not for me. I have seen Queen on Fire back in 1979, 1982, 1984, 1986 why on earth would i want to see them now half clapped out? |
| The King Of Rhye 21.10.2014 09:22 |
gerry wrote: I certainly do not think Adam will be around after the Queen fame fizzles out. 5 years time and he will be struggling on his own, for he has had it all on a plate because of May & Taylor, strip that away and erm.... he is flat on his arse!Uhh.........if you could pay attention to reality for a moment.........Adam had a pretty successful career going before the Queen thing came about......... |
| gerry 21.10.2014 11:56 |
The king of rhye: excuse me Adam Lambert has not bothered the uk with his so called amazing voice has he? He is hardly a dot on the landscape in this country! Mercury a legend, Lambert a nobody! |
| The Real Wizard 21.10.2014 12:55 |
Adam Lambert's last album hit #1 in the US. Tell me more about how he didn't have a career before this.. |
| gerry 21.10.2014 13:01 |
Get back to me when lambo hits the top of the uk album charts ha ha you will have a long wait! |
| Pingfah 21.10.2014 13:04 |
Both his album hit the top 40 here, the last one no.16. But who fucking cares if he is popular here. I guarantee you he does not, the USA is a massive market compared to this country. This country is totally irrelevant to his career. |
| The Real Wizard 21.10.2014 13:17 |
^ what he said. |
| The King Of Rhye 21.10.2014 14:58 |
gerry wrote: The king of rhye: excuse me Adam Lambert has not bothered the uk with his so called amazing voice has he? He is hardly a dot on the landscape in this country! Mercury a legend, Lambert a nobody!#36 and #16 on the UK charts for his first 2 albums......I wouldnt call that taking the UK by storm, but it's more than 'hardly a dot'!! |
| SweetCaroline 21.10.2014 18:58 |
gerry, we are expecting you to go out and buy Adam's 3rd album when it comes out next year after you see him with the Queen guys in January to boost his chart numbers in the UK!!!!! It's only fair since I have already purchased Live at the Rainbow '74 and have Queen Forever on order!!!!! |
| waunakonor 21.10.2014 19:25 |
Who's "we?" I'm certainly not expecting him to do that, and I'm not going to do that either. Actually, I've barely listened to anything by him.
SweetCaroline wrote: It's only fair since I have already purchased Live at the Rainbow '74 and have Queen Forever on order!!!!!You're saying that since you bought new Queen albums, he should buy a new Adam Lambert album, even though he hates AL. Does that mean you hate Queen? |
| queenUSA 21.10.2014 19:37 |
Oh God. queen zone opinions everywhere left and right and EVERYONE getting hot under the collar. A normal day. A normal night. But I digress. Adam's alright. |
| Sheer Brass Neck 21.10.2014 20:36 |
Yes. He is alright. He is not a RockStar!!! He would have to in the world of Rock to be a RockStar!!! He is a pop artist. Jagger, Daltrey, Mercury, RockStars!!! George Michael, Robbie Williams, Kelly Clarkson, Adam Lambert, pop stars. |
| LucasDiego 21.10.2014 20:55 |
Last album of Adam was number 1 in america, but in europe, asia... nothing |
| The Real Wizard 21.10.2014 21:27 |
Kind of on topic, I found this to be pretty amusing... link |
| *goodco* 21.10.2014 23:15 |
FFS, if you're going to argue, don't make stuff up. Here's the countries and highest chart positions (assuming wiki is correct) For Your Entertainment: USA 3, Australia 5, Canada 7, Finland 4, Germany 16, Hungary 20, Japan 29, New Zealand 5, Sweden 8, UK 36 Trespassing: USA 1, Australia 10, Canada 1, Finland 2, Germany 28, Hungary 1, Japan 15, New Zealand 4, Sweden 20, UK 16 One guy's first two albums (from New Jersey) didn't make it to the Top 50 in the States, and only the Top 40 in two countries. Ended up having a pretty good career. Look, AL solo stuff isn't my cup of tea. Had zero enthusiasm for the tour. Then we watched some of the vids REAL loud. Enjoyed the shows more than we ever thought we would. It all worked. We had fun, as did those on stage and the 19,000+ at each show. Wish we could do it again. It's was better than listening to Mumford & Sons - Babel zzz zzz zzz oops I fell asleep again (Deluxe Edition) And now, back to Qzone's normal 'Crossfire' programming. |
| gerry 22.10.2014 04:25 |
The young kids on here will think Lambert is ok because they have never seen the master in action (Freddie) so i will excuse you of your ignorance. I will never buy Lamberts cds because i do not like his singing voice, it has not got the rich tones and expressions that freddie had. Lambert in my opinion the same as Matt Cardel here = boring. |
| ludwigs 22.10.2014 05:07 |
gerry wrote: Get back to me when lambo hits the top of the uk album charts ha ha you will have a long wait!You are serious aren't you Jezza?? Do you really believe making a No.1 in the UK means that you will become an established / successful artist? Read the facts stated already will you? He has been No.1 in the US already!!! Quick example for you to muse over - Rush have never had a No.1 album in the UK BUT they far out-sell most other people. (Maybe you've heard of them but aren't familiar with their stuff?? "Rush has released 24 gold records and 14 platinum records (including 3 multi-platinum), placing them third behind The Beatles and The Rolling Stones for the most consecutive gold or platinum studio albums by a rock band" So....just goes to show, you don't need a UK No.1 album to establish yourself and retain that aspect. We all know you dislike Lambert but just STOP harping on about it!!!! Didn't 'Hearsay' have a No.1 in the UK??? (Who and where the fuck are they???) |
| gerry 22.10.2014 06:19 |
Adam Lambert will never crack the uk market on a grand level and i predict in 10 years time he will not be bothering us all. Lets be honest here, if Queen never took him on board he would be up the creak. He has hardly appeared on uk television shows by himself but i know back in the US he will have a following but nothing on the millions of fans freddie had. Yes i do harp on when something is not right, because it is a total embarrassment that Queen are the only established rock act to take on a reality contestant. Would the Rolling Stones, Rush, Whitesnake, The Who etc... take on a nobody for there lead singer? i guess not. On this occasion i feel Brian & Roger got it wrong. You will say well the tour is sold out, yes but this is based on silly girls supporting madam lambert and Queen fans supporting May &Taylor, i will be glad when the uk tour is finished and Lambert tries to find his own path and career as far away from the uk as possible. |
| Pingfah 22.10.2014 08:02 |
Why are you still blabbering on about the UK? Nobody cares about the UK, especially not people with no.1 US albums. Every argument you have made has been destroyed, and you've done nothing but make yourself look like a total fool. |
| gerry 22.10.2014 08:07 |
sorry but my opinions have been valid. listen american artists want to crack the UK just as our UK artists want to crack the US. The UK music industry is the biggest in the world and every artist wants to make it big here. I think you have lost this argument pingfah. |
| Pingfah 22.10.2014 08:17 |
Jesus. The UK is not the biggest industry in the world, put down the crack pipe you dribbling moron, the US is almost 4 times bigger in terms of $ value. Here, school yourself, try digesting some facts instead of just spewing nonsensical bullshit: link |
| gerry 22.10.2014 08:30 |
The uk music scene is the most respected in the world. you can stamp your feet all you want but your wrong lol Here in the uk we have the best artists in the world, The Beatles, Queen, The who, etc......... I am not talking about how big a country is i am just talking about the quality of artists in general and the very very best are all here in the uk. |
| Pingfah 22.10.2014 08:32 |
No, you were very definitely talking about the size of the industry. You JUST said exactly that, and two posts later you are denying you said the thing that is written right there above you. You are one incredibly stupid person. |
| gerry 22.10.2014 08:54 |
blah blah blah blah! you are only as dense as the person you slag off pingfah! so i am not offended! ha ha. cheerio now! |
| Pingfah 22.10.2014 09:24 |
I'll take the fact you've stopped trying to argue your bullshit point, as an admission that you were wrong. Do have a nice day. |
| Vocal harmony 22.10.2014 09:29 |
Gerry, if you're going to spout stuff, at least learn some history about the subject you are going on about. David Coverdale was an even less known singer ( world wide then Lambert ) when he joined Deep Purple, the same is true of Graham Bonnet when he joined Rainbow, Brian Johnson when he joined AC/DC. . . Marillion, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Journey all recruited singers who were less well known, and in some cases never heard of before. As for Rush they are huge, but as Ludwigs pointed out they don't have the media acceptance in the UK their record and ticket sales should bring them. The fact YOU don't like Lambert's voice doesn't mean he is a bad singer or not deserving of his achievements |
| gerry 22.10.2014 09:53 |
never said he was a bad singer because he would be ideal for the west end productions with the likes of michael ball etc..... all i am saying is he really is not my idea of a great singer within Queen. David Coverdale is a better singer than lambert. |
| The Real Wizard 22.10.2014 13:04 |
And ... Gerry has his ass handed to him for the hundredth time, and doesn't realize it, for the hundredth time. I actually feel sorry for you and your complete inability to mentally function as an adult. |
| Oscar J 22.10.2014 13:22 |
Vocal harmony wrote: Gerry, if you're going to spout stuff, at least learn some history about the subject you are going on about. David Coverdale was an even less known singer ( world wide then Lambert ) when he joined Deep Purple, the same is true of Graham Bonnet when he joined Rainbow, Brian Johnson when he joined AC/DC. . . Marillion, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Journey all recruited singers who were less well known, and in some cases never heard of before. As for Rush they are huge, but as Ludwigs pointed out they don't have the media acceptance in the UK their record and ticket sales should bring them. The fact YOU don't like Lambert's voice doesn't mean he is a bad singer or not deserving of his achievements Most of those bands were still in their prime when they recruited their new singers. I'm not sure this is a great comparison. Or maybe it is, maybe I just can't stand Lambert being compared with people like David Coverdale and Graham Bonnet. |
| SweetCaroline 22.10.2014 19:37 |
gerry wrote: Adam Lambert will never crack the uk market on a grand level and i predict in 10 years time he will not be bothering us all. Lets be honest here, if Queen never took him on board he would be up the creak. He has hardly appeared on uk television shows by himself but i know back in the US he will have a following but nothing on the millions of fans freddie had. Yes i do harp on when something is not right, because it is a total embarrassment that Queen are the only established rock act to take on a reality contestant. Would the Rolling Stones, Rush, Whitesnake, The Who etc... take on a nobody for there lead singer? i guess not. On this occasion i feel Brian & Roger got it wrong. You will say well the tour is sold out, yes but this is based on silly girls supporting madam lambert and Queen fans supporting May &Taylor, i will be glad when the uk tour is finished and Lambert tries to find his own path and career as far away from the uk as possible.It really offends me that you call Adam "madam Lambert." What's that all about? Your homophobia showing? Adam probably wishes he had those "silly teen and tween girls" supporting him who support the cute boy bands. They are NOT his fan base. At Adam's solo gigs you will see all ages and all genders, not just silly little girls. BTW he has appeared on the Graham Norton TV show in the UK and has performed a solo concert in the Royal Albert Hall. Isn't that where Adele performed her much touted prestigious performance a couple of years ago? Just because YOU are not his fan doesn't mean he doesn't have a fan base in the UK: Check it out: link |
| The King Of Rhye 22.10.2014 20:34 |
Vocal harmony wrote: As for Rush they are huge, but as Ludwigs pointed out they don't have the media acceptance in the UK their record and ticket sales should bring them.I think Rush is a kind of different case than most of the bands or artists mentioned here.............they never really had the huge hit song like Queen or some others..........never had great 'media acceptance' in other parts of the world either, maybe at times in Canada, I dont know about that.............. |
| The King Of Rhye 22.10.2014 20:38 |
Oscar J wrote:Vocal harmony wrote: Or maybe it is, maybe I just can't stand Lambert being compared with people like David Coverdale and Graham Bonnet.I still think Adam reminds me of Coverdale at times.....I dont hear it as much on his studio recordings, more so live......when he really goes for it on the high notes........... |
| Vocal harmony 23.10.2014 09:49 |
Oscar J wrote:Taken in the context of what Gerry said, that no other major band would take on a "no body" I think this comparison is validVocal harmony wrote: Gerry, if you're going to spout stuff, at least learn some history about the subject you are going on about. David Coverdale was an even less known singer ( world wide then Lambert ) when he joined Deep Purple, the same is true of Graham Bonnet when he joined Rainbow, Brian Johnson when he joined AC/DC. . . Marillion, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Journey all recruited singers who were less well known, and in some cases never heard of before. As for Rush they are huge, but as Ludwigs pointed out they don't have the media acceptance in the UK their record and ticket sales should bring them. The fact YOU don't like Lambert's voice doesn't mean he is a bad singer or not deserving of his achievementsMost of those bands were still in their prime when they recruited their new singers. I'm not sure this is a great comparison. Or maybe it is, maybe I just can't stand Lambert being compared with people like David Coverdale and Graham Bonnet. |
| The Real Wizard 23.10.2014 13:19 |
The King Of Rhye wrote: I think Rush is a kind of different case than most of the bands or artists mentioned here.............they never really had the huge hit song like Queen or some others..........never had great 'media acceptance' in other parts of the world either, maybe at times in Canada, I dont know about that..............As Dave Grohl asked when inducting Rush into the RnR Hall of Fame - when the f&ck did Rush become cool? It just ... happened. New World Man hit the top 5 in Canada and Tom Sawyer was a relatively big hit in a few countries, but indeed, they never had that hit single that took the world by storm. I've seen Rush about ten times. Each time the audience gets younger and younger. When the Rush "Rock Band" game came out with the entire Moving Pictures album on it, suddenly the kids knew Rush. The next summer they toured and performed Moving Pictures in its entirety every night. Slow and steady wins the race. Of all the rock bands from the 70s, they're the only one whose new music is consistently reviewed as being comparable to their classic era. Their last two albums were truly excellent. |
| The Real Wizard 23.10.2014 13:27 |
Vocal harmony wrote: Taken in the context of what Gerry said, that no other major band would take on a "no body" I think this comparison is validYes did (twice), Genesis did, Journey did, INXS did. With varying results, mind you... but to say that Queen are the only ones is just wrong. |
| Mr. Bed Guy 23.10.2014 13:53 |
1) Rock fans like us may know Rush,but outside US they are widely unknown, no real hit, excapt, perhaps,"Spirit Of The Radio". But that song, too, isn't a *real* classic today like WWRY for example 2) In the early nineties the UK top 40 on MTV were a *must watch* for me. At that time UK charts were relevant. Today absolutely NO national charts of any country are relevant. I even don't take a look at my national charts (Germany) which are much bigger in selling as UK charts ever were. Today the music itself rules because of the internet.All over the world people get the same music at the same time. They don't take a look anymore what's *in* at UK or US charts................ |
| The King Of Rhye 23.10.2014 14:49 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Slow and steady wins the race. Of all the rock bands from the 70s, they're the only one whose new music is consistently reviewed as being comparable to their classic era. Their last two albums were truly excellent.Hear hear..............Clockwork Angels especially..........damn is that good..........name another band that came out with something that good after being together for like 40 years................. I didn't like Vapor Trails (maybe I should get the remixed version sometime), but I'd say everything they did in the 90s was pretty good too!........I seem to keep going back to Counterparts over and over again............ I saw em in 94 and 98........even found the bootleg of the same 94 show a while ago....:D |
| SweetCaroline 27.10.2014 18:44 |
gerry wrote: never said he was a bad singer because he would be ideal for the west end productions with the likes of michael ball etc..... all i am saying is he really is not my idea of a great singer within Queen. David Coverdale is a better singer than lambert.So why haven't the Queen guys tried to tour with David Coverdale? |
| Pingfah 27.10.2014 19:04 |
David Coverdale would be a terrible fit for Queen, and I bet he'd turn them down flat if they asked him, which they wouldn't because the idea is ridiculous. He's just fine in Whitesnake though, they are a great band and that is where he should stay. |
| SweetCaroline 27.10.2014 22:53 |
"Here I Go Again" by Whitesnake is one of my favorite songs! |