Well i found this link. I think its interesting reading. I dont know if the recording exist or anything but i could be really nice to hear. We have already heard some of it but some songs i guess havent been out yet. http://qliverecordings.tripod.com/early/eqrecordings.html
What du you think?
Yet another website that incorrectly labels Silver Salmon and Feelings as 1972, when they're actually from 1977. There's absolutely no evidence that those tracks were hashed out that year.
I could imagine that Silver Salmon was written in the early 70's. The songwriting is a bit too "experimental" to be from the NOTW period when it was recorded.
While the song was apparently co-written by Tim Staffell in the very early days, the particular recording we've heard is from 1977. It has been discussed here many times..
Roger is using his News Of The World drum kit, the recording's quality and mix are identical to Feelings Feelings take 9 (which is definitely from 77), Mercury's voice is more developed, etc.
Oscar J wrote:
The songwriting is a bit too "experimental" to be from the NOTW period when it was recorded.
NOTW was a "let's strip down and get back to basics" album. This song was just an idea that was sitting around from years back and they gave it a try.
It's a lot more believable to have it from 77 than 76, that's for sure.
Oscar J wrote:
The songwriting is a bit too "experimental" to be from the NOTW period when it was recorded.
NOTW was a "let's strip down and get back to basics" album. This song was just an idea that was sitting around from years back and they gave it a try.
It's a lot more believable to have it from 77 than 76, that's for sure.
I know the recording is from '77. But as you say, the song is probably older than that.
The Real Wizard wrote:
Roger is using his News Of The World drum kit, the recording's quality and mix are identical to Feelings Feelings take 9 (which is definitely from 77), Mercury's voice is more developed, etc.
I really hope a better quality recording of Silver Salmon was recorded.
Sorry for that site but it wasn't updated for about 12 years ... I just don't have a time and suppose I forgot password for that site to login and change few mistakes..:/
Regards
I think a more polished recording could sound okay, preferably without that voice crack at the start. The guitar is pretty uninspired overall, mostly just playing chunky fifth chords.
mooghead wrote:
I dunno why people are so intrigued by Silver Salmon. Its crap.
Because it represents a significant part of Queen history, where after the forward progression through A Day At The Races it became their first major moment of creative re-evaluation.
tomchristie22 wrote:
The guitar is pretty uninspired overall, mostly just playing chunky fifth chords.
Yup, that's what happens when the punk movement is exploding in the studio room next to yours.
Seen in grander historical perspective, it's all the more stunning that side 2 of News Of The World was as diverse as it was, as punk turned most rock bands into dinosaurs. That side of music is truly remarkable. Yes, even Get Down Make Love. This is the Queen that took risks and could still get away with it.
The Real Wizard wrote:
Seen in grander historical perspective, it's all the more stunning that side 2 of News Of The World was as diverse as it was, as punk turned most rock bands into dinosaurs. This is the Queen that took risks and could still get away with it.
Yes, very true. They were still on that path with Jazz. The Game seened to lack that inventiveness, or at least presented it in a much more conforming way. I wonder what kind of album they might have made without Mack
I don't think with The Game Queen "slipped". In fact. it is a very sharp, very smart experiment in shorter "power pop" songs and it was very successful obviously. Many songs still have the Queen "sound" -- Play the Game, Save Me, Sail Away Sweet Sister, for example but also Dragon Attack, Need Your Lovin Tonight and Rock It. The atypical songs -- Crazy Little Thing and AOBTD were really good. Not my favourites, but they had a talent for producing simple, elegant pop songs. The weaker songs, Coming Soon and Don't Try Suicide, aren't THAT weak. I quite like the former: the latter has a cool guitar solo. They followed up the Game with the cracking Flash Gordon soundtrack and one of the biggest selling Greatest Hits albums ever released. But then came Hot Space and that's where they really "slipped" because the Queen "sound" was mostly absent.
dysan wrote:
I dunno, The Game was a shorter and more focused album and finally cracked America. I think they learnt a valuable lesson there
Queen cracked America in 77-78, they were playing, and selling out, arenas by then. Their albums were charting high too. . .
The Game was huge because it became a cross over due mainly to Bites The Dust. That tour played to the same Arenas the pervious tours had, although multiple nights at some venues were possible, it wasn't something that just happened they were already very establish in that market
Holly2003 wrote:
I don't think with The Game Queen "slipped".
Yeah, that's what I meant ! They were slipping with Jazz. Mack helped them find a new straight-forward focus, and as a result they made a solid, accessible album. There's not a single bad cut on it.