| brENsKi 14.10.2014 15:44 |
Germany - 1 Ireland - 1 fucking amazing battling performance - kept going right to the end LAST - KICK - OF - THE - GAME !!!!!!! yessssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!! |
| Holly2003 14.10.2014 17:17 |
Fair enough but pales into nothing compared with the better half of Ireland's performance in Greece tonight. Greece 0:2 Norn Iron. The piranhas are back! :p |
| The Real Wizard 14.10.2014 20:06 |
And Germany lost to Poland the other day... yikes ! So soon off the throne. |
| brENsKi 15.10.2014 11:22 |
Holly2003 wrote: Fair enough but pales into nothing compared with the better half of Ireland's performance in Greece tonight. Greece 0:2 Norn Iron. The piranhas are back! :pdoesn't exactly pale does it ? - yes N.Ire was a great result but Greece are hardly world champions are they? 54 places difference in FIFA rankings - a giant killing (of sorts) But Ireland got a great result in Germany 61 places above them in rankings - and World Champions to boot. |
| Holly2003 15.10.2014 13:33 |
We beat Germany home and away the last time we were in the same group as them for the Euros. We are the only team ever to have done that. They are easy peasy :p |
| brENsKi 15.10.2014 16:56 |
one day - maybe not in my lifetime - Ireland will be ONE united country...and they'll have a great football team then. |
| Holly2003 16.10.2014 01:47 |
No cpmment on the politics of that but I will never support anyone except Northern Ireland and there's no evidence that one all-island team would be more successful than two separate teams. Would a UK team be better than England for example? Would it get support from anyone except England fans? Anyway, looking forward to the Romania-NI game next month, which is (incredibly) shaping up to be the group decider. |
| thomasquinn 32989 16.10.2014 06:48 |
brENsKi wrote: one day - maybe not in my lifetime - Ireland will be ONE united country...and they'll have a great football team then.Seriously dude, if you start humming "A Nation Once Again" right now I will drown you in a barrell of Guiness for being an Irish cliché. |
| brENsKi 16.10.2014 07:42 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:all i was saying is that it will happen. think about it logically. the country was once as one, it can return to one.brENsKi wrote: one day - maybe not in my lifetime - Ireland will be ONE united country...and they'll have a great football team then.Seriously dude, if you start humming "A Nation Once Again" right now I will drown you in a barrell of Guiness for being an Irish cliché. at present the population of Northern Ireland is a 48/52 split between in favour of unionists or protestants. but this "gap" has been reducing year by year. When you factor in the fluidity of British politics, the devolution of central Govt over recent decades and N/Ireland's current perceived power-sharing, then things can change further. Who knows what the outcome of a "Scottish-style" referendum in say, 20 years' time? Let's face it, when the British Govt renege on their pre-referendum promises to the Scottish people, I'd wager that Scotland will demand a re-referendum. |
| Holly2003 16.10.2014 08:15 |
Actually, the latest info I've seen suggests a signficant minority of catholics support the union. It;s a mistake to think all catholics are nationalist (and conversely, all protestants are unionist). Anyway, back to the football. Norn Iron are back! |
| thomasquinn 32989 16.10.2014 08:57 |
brENsKi wrote:I get your point. Ireland should, from a purely logical and disinterested point of view, be one nation, that's undeniably so. However, the division is so many generations old that it just isn't resolved by changing some lines on the map to reflect the reasonable alternative. That totally sucks, because it implies that a significant number of people don't like change for the better anymore than they like change for the worse. I really do feel I have history on my side when I say that, injust as it is, these things need to be resolved gradually. I do hope that, in the course of the 21st century, a European spirit will come to replace nationalist sentiments. That would, I feel, do a lot to resolve tensions throughout Europe.thomasquinn 32989 wrote:all i was saying is that it will happen. think about it logically. the country was once as one, it can return to one. at present the population of Northern Ireland is a 48/52 split between in favour of unionists or protestants. but this "gap" has been reducing year by year. When you factor in the fluidity of British politics, the devolution of central Govt over recent decades and N/Ireland's current perceived power-sharing, then things can change further. Who knows what the outcome of a "Scottish-style" referendum in say, 20 years' time? Let's face it, when the British Govt renege on their pre-referendum promises to the Scottish people, I'd wager that Scotland will demand a re-referendum.brENsKi wrote: one day - maybe not in my lifetime - Ireland will be ONE united country...and they'll have a great football team then.Seriously dude, if you start humming "A Nation Once Again" right now I will drown you in a barrell of Guiness for being an Irish cliché. If, to reflect on your statistics for a moment, an electoral majority arises for absorbing Northern Ireland into the Republic of Ireland at any point, whether in a few years or many, that will only settle one superficial part of a conflict that will continue if its causes aren't remedied. |
| Holly2003 16.10.2014 10:51 |
The island of Ireland has two nations on it, one identifying with the South and the other identifying with UK heritage (and a growing minority whose primary identity is "Northern Irish", which is somewhere in the middle, and is how I would identify myself). Ireland was not one nation split in two by the horrid Brits and even if a case could be made for that, it's no longer true. Until people realise that then they will never really understand anything about NI. Anyway .... football. Aristotle, Socrates, Alexander the Great, err... Telly Savalas, your boys took a hell of a beating! Vlad the Impaler is next. |
| brENsKi 16.10.2014 11:40 |
Holly2003 wrote: Anyway .... football. Aristotle, Socrates, Alexander the Great, err... Telly Savalas, your boys took a hell of a beating! Vlad the Impaler is next.i really wish i felt the same confidence for the Eire's chances....group from shitdom...Germany will wake up, Poland already look good, Scotland are going great guns and Georgia may yet turn up. Best I can realistically expect is 3rd place, but in reality probably 4th |
| greaserkat 17.10.2014 09:56 |
I hope there is another repeat of 2008 when England didn't make it, lol... |
| musicland munich 29.03.2015 06:26 |
Today it is getting serious again !!! |
| pittrek 29.03.2015 14:11 |
I guess this thread isn't about the currency, is it? |
| Thistle 29.03.2015 14:22 |
6-1 Scotland. Only Gibraltar, but a big win which keeps us in touch. And Steven Fletcher has just become the first Scotland player to score a hat-trick in an international for 46 years. I think we will beat Germany and Poland at home, and Ireland away. Even if we don't beat Germany, I'd say that wins over the other two will see us safely qualify. Politics wise, Scotland has woken up! SNP are going to blitz the General Election in May, and polls suggest they'll take 53 of the 59 Scottish seats at Westminster. There's also a swing towards favouring independence, currently sitting at 52%. I think I heard that over 60% of Scots want another referendum following on from the blatant reneging of the promise of devo max from the unionist parties. Also, the main Scottish newspaper has been found guilty of falsely representing political news during the referendum, with blatant support of the union. I am an SNP member and activist, and have just attended conference over the weekend. The support we're getting on the street as we man campaign stalls, knock on doors and leaflet is staggering, and the polling we conduct ourselves is very promising. Onwards and upwards!! |
| Holly2003 30.03.2015 08:29 |
Scotland to beat Germany and Poland? Deluded. But I admire your optimism. ps Norn Iron 2:1 Finland. All other results are unimportant :p |
| Thistle 30.03.2015 14:48 |
Have done it before, and can do it again ya great big numpty ;) |