| inu-liger 13.10.2014 17:03 |
So now that we've heard the 3 new songs coming out on "Queen Forever," and Pink Floyd have just released their single "Louder Than Words" off their new album "The Endless River" which also comes out the same day as QF, I want to ask those of you who've heard all of these your honest opinions: How do you think they compare? Which of their releases do you think will win the charts? Which had the better overall mix and musical balance? Serious replies only, please ;) |
| Fart Sandwiches 13.10.2014 17:17 |
As a lifelong fan of both bands, I'm honestly more excited for The Endless River than I am for Queen Forever. It's hard to compare the two, though; if PF had put 'Louder Than Words' on a compilation album, or if Queen Forever was a full album release instead of a compilation, then it'd be a bit tougher, but I'm definitely going to be buying Endless River, and purchasing Let Me In Your Heart Again from iTunes. I have no doubt in my mind that Endless River will be #1 in the US and UK, and Queen Forever will maybe hit the Top 10 only in the UK. |
| marc.s 14.10.2014 00:27 |
Hey Inu-liger good question... When I first heard that Queen and Pink Floyd were releasing albums this year I was very excited. If we talk about the main two tracks first...Let Me In Your Heart and Louder Than Words...I'd say I'm very satisfied and pleased by both of them. They both fit their respective catalogues with ease and have an inherent quality to them. If we're talking about the albums...The Endless River beats QF hands down IMO...The Endless River ...despite some people's reservations about it being nearly all instrumental is all new despite when it was recorded and never released to my knowledge... QF is a waste of time for me...I purchased all the remasters in 2011 so I simply don't need this. If its aimed at new fans fair enough...but I can't understand why they placed the new tracks on there( of course the marketing but...) ...as most of us Queen fans know...there is definitely enough material for an excellent MIH 2 swan song...which I think has been discussed heavily elsewhere. I doubt we'll ever see that now...I guess an anthology type project will be the last studio hurrah...hopefully. Rock It with Freddie's vocals and the Queen version of Man Made Paradise would be great to hear in that context. I also found out from an extremely reliable source last week that there's another full Freddie vocal on another song that I was surprised to know existed...my source doesn't want to be named but he's confirmed it was done in the spirit of democracy within the group. But aside from full songs...instead of the QF release I wish they'd utilized the snippets and parts of songs we've all heard on youtube...because I always remind myself of something George Martin said to the Beatles before Abbey Road.."think symphonically" and that's how the second side of that album was made up. If there's a group that can think symphonically I'd say Queen would be it... And back to the Endless River...I think people who are Floyd fans know that the Gilmour Floyd has more focus on the music while the Waters Floyd was more about the theme and lyrics...both great incarnations in my book...love the Barrett years too... Oh and please WO sort out that mix of TMBMTLTT..otherwise they should just release the Queen mix Brian and Roger mentioned on the Evans show and scrap MJ altogether if its his estate calling the shots... Right guys ...I apologize for the waffling I don't get to reply often because I can't always access QZ to log in from here in China |
| Pingfah 14.10.2014 03:28 |
Pink Floyd's album is going to completely trash Queen Forever in sales, as it should, since one is another in a long line of compilations and the other an original work. As far as quality goes, the new Pink Floyd track is much better than TMBMTLTT, or the new Love Kills, but I feel in LMIYHA Queen have unearthed a true gem that stands up to most of what Queen did in the 80s. Very pleased with it indeed. Just hearing Freddie singing his heart out on that one track again is worth 10 new Pink Floyd albums to me, although I do look forward to The Endless River. |
| gerry 14.10.2014 13:05 |
Pink Floyd are crap. Howe dare you compare them to Queen. stupid thread. |
| Oscar J 14.10.2014 13:28 |
You are an idiot. |
| MercurialFreddie 14.10.2014 14:19 |
The problem with Queen Forever is that they should have use the word "compilation" from the very beginning of the project. There are many sites which advertises the album as a *real* proper next Queen album which of course isn't true. For me it's mystery what role has Universal/Island records played in the project. Knowing how does the whole discussion in the "Queen camp" look (according to GB) we can assume that archivists presented more tracks/demos/b-sides to be looked upon so we could get something close to a proper *new* album. From the recent Chris Evans show we discovered that even Jim Beach can suggest that some (Love Kills for instance :) ) tracks should be looked upon and they'll do it. Apart from being in the FM estate is he a guy who manages every track sung by Freddie ? But who has the final word in all of this ? Orbit's mix making its way onto the album proved that BM & RT don't have it. In my opinion Universal wants to cash in on every damn thing released under their banter. That's why we WILL be getting compilations with another unreleased track(s) from time to time. But...,Inu, if it really was a proper Queen album than I think it could victoriously triumph over the dead body of the Endless River. Of course we could be facing ironic situation like The Endless River being almost entirely instrumental album with let's say..... only 3 tracks with vocals :D In this situation even Queen Forever could win the battle :) :) |
| The King Of Rhye 14.10.2014 14:57 |
marc.s wrote: t. I also found out from an extremely reliable source last week that there's another full Freddie vocal on another song that I was surprised to know existed...my source doesn't want to be named but he's confirmed it was done in the spirit of democracy within the group.Hmm..........what song??? |
| Mr.QueenFan 14.10.2014 15:04 |
inu-liger wrote: So now that we've heard the 3 new songs coming out on "Queen Forever," and Pink Floyd have just released their single "Louder Than Words" off their new album "The Endless River" which also comes out the same day as QF, I want to ask those of you who've heard all of these your honest opinions: How do you think they compare? Which of their releases do you think will win the charts? Which had the better overall mix and musical balance? Serious replies only, please ;)I think we can't really compare the two, because Pink Floyd is a new instrumental album while Queen is a compilation plus 3 new songs. Having said this, and being a huge fan of both bands i must say that i'm more happy with the Queen new song LMIYHA than the new "Louder than Words" by PF. In fact i'm a bit disapointed by it, because i didn't like the not-so-smooth-transition in the song from the intro to when the drums kick in. I don't feel the magic, but i'm going to give it a go in the sense that it is a conceptual album, so maybe it makes sense in that context. I'm very excited about both projects, and i will by them both. I think Pink Floyd will get to numer 1 in both USA and UK, but i don't see it last long in the charts. PF have lot's of fans and it will be enough for first week sales. I think QF will be more consistent in the charts, and if they play their cards right (do a new great video) for the singles, i think QF has the chance to get to number 1 too. But they really should do a new fresh video with some actors, instead of TSMGO type of videos with old footage of the band. |
| fras444 14.10.2014 16:07 |
Pink Floyd like queen there are many unreleased songs in vaults... Im hanging out for the unreleased Syd Barrett stuff love his work and there is a lot of his stuff out there... Even the have.you got it yet is rumored to exist... |
| Band Forever 14.10.2014 16:09 |
pink floyd are shit compared to Queen. |
| Oscar J 14.10.2014 16:16 |
That you gerry? |
| MercurialFreddie 14.10.2014 16:23 |
The King Of Rhye wrote:marc.s wrote: t. I also found out from an extremely reliable source last week that there's another full Freddie vocal on another song that I was surprised to know existed...my source doesn't want to be named but he's confirmed it was done in the spirit of democracy within the group.Hmm..........what song??? Marc, could you tell us what's the name of that song ? |
| inu-liger 14.10.2014 18:32 |
gerry wrote: Pink Floyd are crap. Howe dare you compare them to Queen. stupid thread.Go smoke some more bad weed, you old hack. |
| waunakonor 14.10.2014 18:54 |
Could somebody please enlighten me as to how in the world Pink Floyd are "crap?" Honestly curious. The Pink Floyd single I honestly found rather underwhelming. Everything on The Division Bell is easily superior. From short clips I've heard of other tracks, however, I'm still reasonably interested to hear to whole thing. Not sure why I'd be excited for Queen Forever. I've already heard all three "new" songs, and while the Love Kills version is quite good, that's about it. |
| marc.s 14.10.2014 23:56 |
MercurialFreddie wrote:Sure....it seems Freddie didn't just sing the bridge on "Sail Away Sweet Sister" but gave a full performance just as he did on "Rock It" . Then had a vote as to how it should appear on "The Game"The King Of Rhye wrote:Marc, could you tell us what's the name of that song ?marc.s wrote: t. I also found out from an extremely reliable source last week that there's another full Freddie vocal on another song that I was surprised to know existed...my source doesn't want to be named but he's confirmed it was done in the spirit of democracy within the group.Hmm..........what song??? I'm hoping it'll surface in the future. |
| MercurialFreddie 15.10.2014 03:25 |
Sail away sweet sister with full Freddie vocals ! Nice, I too hope that it'll surface in the future along with Rock It. |
| gerry 15.10.2014 04:36 |
Wow freddie on "sail away sweet sister" is awesome and he would have made it better than Brian any day. Just like when Brian done vocals on "Too much love will kill you" Freddie's version was much better. |
| gerry 15.10.2014 08:31 |
Queen blow Floyd out of the water, so this is a ridiculous thread., mind you inu-liger has crap tastes ha ha ! |
| Pingfah 15.10.2014 09:20 |
Obviously I prefer Queen to Pink Floyd, that doesn't mean that everything Queen have done is better than everything Floyd have done though, that would be stupid talk. Nor is it a forgone conclusion that Queen material will be more successful than Floyd material, or that it will be better produced. So this topic is a perfectly reasonable question. It's fairly plain that Pink Floyd have produced a lot of music more impressive than this piece of shit Freddie & Michael track, the new Pink Floyd single being one of those pieces of music. It's almost as though you didn't actually read the topic at all, and just chose to randomly spam the thread with nonsense insults instead. |
| gerry 15.10.2014 09:26 |
Queen have achieved so much more than floyd could only dream of. furthermore Queen are a better polished classier group than pink floyd. you can label floyd as progressive rock in the 1970s but you can not label Queen because they were impossible to label as they can do many many things floyd just would not touch or go there. Queen have done: heavy rock, punk rock, ballads, pop, mock opera, love & romance, disco, etc....... a very versatile group. |
| cmsdrums 15.10.2014 09:29 |
gerry wrote: Wow freddie on "sail away sweet sister" is awesome and he would have made it better than Brian any day. Just like when Brian done vocals on "Too much love will kill you" Freddie's version was much better.Freddie would be superb singing that I'm sure, but it's one of Brian's greatest vocals to me, so out of his entire Queen vocal catalogue it's one I would be happy to keep. Brian's delivery gives it the 'tenderness' and emotive edge required (all in my opinion of course). |
| Pingfah 15.10.2014 09:38 |
gerry wrote: Queen have achieved so much more than floyd could only dream of. furthermore Queen are a better polished classier group than pink floyd. you can label floyd as progressive rock in the 1970s but you can not label Queen because they were impossible to label as they can do many many things floyd just would not touch or go there. Queen have done: heavy rock, punk rock, ballads, pop, mock opera, love & romance, disco, etc....... a very versatile group.Of course they are. You think these are controversial opinions to a bunch of hardcore Queen fans? None of this addresses the questions posed by inu-liger though, which are quite reasonable. |
| emrabt 15.10.2014 10:50 |
I'm still waiting for Queen to make any type of movie, let alone one with Sir Bob HOSKINS in. so Floyd wins in that department. |
| waunakonor 15.10.2014 10:54 |
gerry wrote: Queen have done: heavy rock, punk rock, ballads, pop, mock opera, love & romance, disco, etc....... a very versatile group.Erm...Pink Floyd have done most of those things as well. Also, while variety and versatility are nice, what really matters is the quality of the music. Queen is my favorite band and has released some of my favorite albums, but Floyd have also released some magnificent albums, particularly Dark Side, Wish You Were Here and Animals. How much Pink Floyd have you actually listened to? |
| gerry 15.10.2014 11:30 |
Have you ever noticed when ever there is a poll asking what is the greatest band of all time, the top 3 is always Queen, Beatles and Led Zep. Where is Pink Floyd? Pink Floyd are one of those obscure prog rock outfits that make 15 min tracks and weird music that goes on and on and on............ boring yawn yawn.... Give me: Boston, Thin Lizzy, Status Quo, even Twisted Sister......... |
| brENsKi 15.10.2014 12:04 |
gerry wrote:Have you ever noticed when ever there is a poll asking what is the greatest band of all time, the top 3 is always Queen, Beatles and Led Zep. Where is Pink Floyd? Pink Floyd are one of those obscure prog rock outfits that make 15 min tracks and weird music that goes on and on and on............ boring yawn yawn.... Give me: Boston, Thin Lizzy, Status Quo, even Twisted Sister.........this post alone shows what an ignorant dolt you really are. this has nothing to do with taste - those can vary. just simply the actual ignorance in your post If you exclude Greatest Hits albums - Floyd were not a singles band - so this is not a fair fight. Let's compare the worldwide sales of original recorded works. Queen - ANATO - 4.3m Pink Floyd - DSOTM - 22.1m Queen - The Game - 4.7m Pink Floyd - The Wall - 17.8m Total (claimed) Album Sales : Queen 200m (this included Greatest Hits) Pink Floyd: 250m "Obscure" - no "Boring" - no "Weird" - no bless you Gezza, and your wonderful imaginary factoid world. |
| gerry 15.10.2014 12:21 |
Brenski: Queen album sales are over 300 million fact. Abba come second to Queen, look at your own spelling doit should be "idiot" silly boy. |
| Pingfah 15.10.2014 12:44 |
He called you a Dolt, not a Doit. And nobody who has sold over 200 million records can possibly qualify as obscure. You actually may be the stupidest person on the internet. I'd joke that you could count your IQ on the fingers of one hand, if I thought you actually could count that high. |
| Oscar J 15.10.2014 12:53 |
I always skip Sail Away Sweet Sister. Those lyrics combined with May's shaky tenor... yuk! |
| brENsKi 15.10.2014 13:04 |
gerry wrote: Brenski: Queen album sales are over 300 million fact. Abba come second to Queen, look at your own spelling doit should be "idiot" silly boy.It's D O L T - Pity YOU still can't spell no-one has certified album sales of 300m worldwide, and FYI here are the actual figures in order (certified sales first/ then claimed sales) figures are in millions artist - certified sales/claimed sales beatles - 264/600 elvis - 208/500 m jackson - 174/380 madonna - 166/300 elton - 162/300 led zep - 140/250 pink floyd - 114/250 (obscure band in Gezzaworld lol) mariah carey - 129/200 celine dion - 122/200 whitney - 112/200 ac/dc - 110/200 queen - 104/200 (sold more than floyd in Gezzaworld) rolling stones - 95/200 abba - 60/200 (2nd to queen in Gezzaworld) so in the Gospel according to Gezza - hereafter called the Gezpel; Beatles, Zep, Elton, madonna, Elvis and Whacko Jacko never existed. anything you want to add? Dolt. |
| Band Forever 15.10.2014 13:32 |
I wonder if the good Doctor has a Freddie vocal stowed away somewhere in that famous drawer with outtakes of Long Away? |
| ewill_rocky 15.10.2014 14:31 |
Gezza can suck cocks |
| Band Forever 15.10.2014 14:45 |
I agree with Gerry. Pink Floyd lacks consistent quality. The only stand out moment of genius is the Gilmour solo in Another Brick in the wall. The rest passes as shit! Yes Queen No.1 Artist in the U.K. over 300 Million Album sales. Go and suck the pink piccolo Floyd fans. |
| Oscar J 15.10.2014 15:05 |
I'm a 100 % certain that Band Forever is gerry with another nick. |
| MercurialFreddie 15.10.2014 15:39 |
^ What he said. Off topic [I've already answered Inu] : So now these tracks have been confirmed to be sung by various band members: 1. Doin' all right (FM + RT) 2. Sail away... (FM + BM) 3. Too much love... (FM + BM) 4. Rock it (FM + RT) 5. Heaven for everyone (FM + RT) 6. Headlong (BM + FM) 7. Ride the wild wind (FM + RT) 8. The invisible man (FM + RT) Can we assume that more tracks have been treated that way, for example All Dead All Dead sung by FM ? Also, do you think if it's a good idea to release these tracks as a duets or both versions on one album ? |
| Another Roger (re) 15.10.2014 15:56 |
Let Me In your heart again is a lot better than the new Pink Floyd single. I have heard it on radio several times and its dead boring. |
| Pingfah 15.10.2014 16:15 |
It's true, it is much better than the Floyd single. But the Floyd single is much better than TMBMTLTT, and Love Kills, by a long stretch. |
| SkyeTV 15.10.2014 17:38 |
Queen aren't relevant anymore. apart from the hardcore fans here, they are so far off the radar they barely exist: shown by how the shops barely had the Rainbow '74 items (that were such a big deal to us). just look at how much the value of their rarities has decreased so rapidly over the years, whilst the other big hitters keep getting bigger. Pink Floyd haven't released an album for what, 20 years? it is so highly anticipated a release, that Floyd will annihilate Queen on the charts. perhaps if the lads hadn't lost all credibility in the last decade by jumping into bed with every artist known to man, they'd still hold their place as a top band. |
| fras444 15.10.2014 17:58 |
Piper at the gates of dawn vs queen 1...? Anyone here who likes Pink Floyd likes the Syd Barrett years. Would Pink Floyd gone far if he hadn't taken acid... |
| brENsKi 16.10.2014 07:36 |
Pingfah wrote:He called you a Dolt, not a Doit. I'd joke that you could count your IQ on the fingers of one hand, if I thought you actually could count that high.you're really pushing his counting skills - especially in light of the fact he has SEVEN fingers on one hand :-) |
| gerry 16.10.2014 12:02 |
You can all mock but i am not bothered. Queen have sold in excess of 300 million sales, you lot obviously do not know your Queen history. Even when Queen where on xfactor it told how many sales Queen had and it was like i said 300 million. And by the way Brenski, calling me a doit is laughable. |
| Chief Mouse 16.10.2014 12:06 |
gerry wrote: You can all mock but i am not bothered. Queen have sold in excess of 300 million sales, you lot obviously do not know your Queen history. Even when Queen where on xfactor it told how many sales Queen had and it was like i said 300 million. And by the way Brenski, calling me a doit is laughable."Dolt". |
| gerry 16.10.2014 12:12 |
chief mouse: can you not speak english then ??? |
| gerry 16.10.2014 12:18 |
pingfah: Queen vs Pink Floyd such a stupid discussion. Pink Floyd should vs Yes or someone of there ilk, i will tell you why because if inu-liger was a real Queen supporter he would not come up with such a ridiculous thread. i stand by my support for Queen 1971 - 1991. No one else comes near to Queen in terms of showmanship and quality performances. |
| Another Roger (re) 16.10.2014 12:28 |
Is this a Queen forum? You have got to wonder. I like a couple of Pink Floyd songs, but compared to Queen they are very boring. I get so ****** tired of their depressive songs with loooooong synth chords. I bought that best of album called "Echoes" many years ago. What a mistake that was. I expected them to have made more catchy songs during their carrer Queen is on a different level in my ears. Thats why I am a Queen fan. |
| gerry 16.10.2014 12:39 |
Another Roger (re) : Thanks and my faith has been restored in someone who has got some common sense on here. Real Queen fans would not dare to compare another group to our beloved Queen, how dare they. |
| Chief Mouse 16.10.2014 12:46 |
gerry wrote: chief mouse: can you not speak english then ???'Dolt' is an English word, Gerry. I am sorry about my English though, it's not as perfect as I would like :P I am not a native speaker so you have all the right to correct me when I'm wrong, but Brenski clearly said "dolt" not "doit", so I'm pretty sure you're wrong this time not me. |
| Oscar J 16.10.2014 13:03 |
gerry wrote: Real Queen fans would not dare to compare another group to our beloved Queen, how dare they. Really? So if you're a fan of a band - no other band compares, like automatically? |
| Holly2003 16.10.2014 13:03 |
I was in the same boat as you. I never really listen to PF when I was younger but bought Echoes to find out what the fuss was about and was disappointed by it/them. However, I gave them a second chance, buying Wish You Were Here and Dark Side of the Moon, both of which are excellent. I would go as far to say as WYWH is one of the best albums in my collection and the song itself a personal favourite. They are basically, an album band and any greatest hits package of them is never going to do them justice.
Another Roger (re) wrote: I like a couple of Pink Floyd songs, but compared to Queen they are very boring. I get so ****** tired of their depressive songs with loooooong synth chords. I bought that best of album called "Echoes" many years ago. What a mistake that was. I expected them to have made more catchy songs during their carrer . |
| brENsKi 16.10.2014 13:36 |
gerry wrote: Even when Queen where on xfactor it told how many sales Queen had and it was like i said 300 million.so now you're pitching the XFactor as a musical gospel, honestly Gezza - if you weren't such an imbecile you'd be a comedian. gerry wrote:And by the way Brenski, calling me a doit is laughable.ONE LAST TIME Gezza it's D-O-L-T - a four-letter word, c'mon Gezza count them, you only need FOUR of those SEVEN fingers on your left hand. here's the Oxford English Dictionary definition: Dolt: noun - a stupid person. synonyms - fool, Gerry, nincompoop, clown, simpleton; |
| Pingfah 16.10.2014 13:53 |
He doesn't even know what he is arguing about, he seems to think this is a thread asking which band is better. The guy can't even properly digest and comprehend a few lines of basic English. The amazing thing is, he's not even a troll, just a genuinely unintelligent person. |
| waunakonor 16.10.2014 14:05 |
Another Roger (re) wrote: I like a couple of Pink Floyd songs, but compared to Queen they are very boring. I get so ****** tired of their depressive songs with loooooong synth chords. I bought that best of album called "Echoes" many years ago. What a mistake that was. I expected them to have made more catchy songs during their careerSee, this is an actual criticism of the band and their music that someone can actually respond to. If Pink Floyd isn't your cup of tea, that's all right. For me and a lot of other people, music is about a lot more than catchy hooks, and Pink Floyd's lengthy, drawn-out piece are often brilliant works of music. If that's not for you, whatever, although I would advise listening to an actual album or two as opposed to a greatest hits album so you can listen to the music the way it was initially intended to be experienced. That said, this thread is a good example of why most fan forums suck. It's possible to be a big Queen fan and still really like a lot of other bands. Like I said earlier, Queen is my favorite band, but I take massive enjoyment from the works of PF and a load of other artists. There's such a huge world of music out there, especially with the Internet making all of it so easily accessible; refusing to enjoy more than one band seems like a waste of time. And, it cannot be stressed enough, YOU DO NOT GET TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE IS A "FAN." Chief Mouse wrote:Haha, don't worry, your English is great, especially compared to gerry's.gerry wrote: chief mouse: can you not speak english then ???'Dolt' is an English word, Gerry. I am sorry about my English though, it's not as perfect as I would like :P I am not a native speaker so you have all the right to correct me when I'm wrong, but Brenski clearly said "dolt" not "doit", so I'm pretty sure you're wrong this time not me. |
| inu-liger 16.10.2014 17:30 |
gerry wrote: Pink Floyd should vs Yes or someone of there ilk,That doesn't count as proper English, Jerry. i will tell you why because if inu-liger was a real Queen supporter...You have no business telling me if I'm a "real" Queen supporter or not. Just my collection alone and how much has been invested into it since 1997 blows any doubt of that out of the water. So stop while you're behind. Yes, I said behind because you're certainly nowhere near being ahead. |
| Togg 17.10.2014 04:16 |
Why is it this site attracts so many monobrow nutters...? Those of you that seem to think slagging off other artists and shouting that Queen were better than anything ever seem completely at odds with the four members of the band you allegedly support. Have you ever read the words in any interview any one of the members has actually ever had published? If you had you might realise they were/are very supportive of other bands talents and different styles. The whole point of Queen's creative output is that it draws from all musical styles and nods to dozens of other artists, from Aretha Franklin to Micheal Jackson to Led Zep. Pink Floyd were a fabulously talented band with every once of creative output that Queen had. Personally I'm delighted they are honoring their late keyboard player by releasing his last work. I'm equally glad to hear new material from The Who, AC/DC, Queen and other talented musicians of their era still putting material out there... why? because I'm a music fan, not a cultural zombie. |
| gerry 17.10.2014 05:00 |
It is legendary that fans of a group slag off another group, remember Spandua Ballet fans at logger heads with Duran Duran fans in the 1980s? Queen fans were at logger heads with Michael Jackson fans on one poll online, so it is nothing to do with been a cultural zombie because every one does it, so get off your high horse, pink floyd are crap. |
| gerry 17.10.2014 05:28 |
inu-liger: you say i have no right for telling you that you are not a real Queen fan, yet you blatantly take every opportunity to slate me for my comments so come on then you know this is a web site were opinions fly around like flies and it would not be normal if everybody agreed would it? Positive or negative replies are all part of the debate. I can handle all the critics or idiots who disagree with my comments like Brenski ans pingfah, that does not bother me a jot. As i have stated before all your chums on here have spoilt your thread moaning about my comments, if you do not like what i have said you do not have to reply. It takes 2 to tango and the likes of Brenski who tries to come across intelligent trying to put me down is a sad sad excuse for a human, not a scrap of compassion because he always has to be right. well you will not get rid of me on here, i am like marmite you either love me or hate me, but get over yourselves yeah. I know Queen are the greatest group ever and if you all disagree then you should drop the act pretending you love Queen when you are comparing them to a another group. |
| inu-liger 17.10.2014 05:53 |
gerry wrote: It is legendary that fans of a group slag off another group, remember Spandua Ballet fans at logger heads with Duran Duran fans in the 1980s?I certainly don't remember Duran Duran fans duking it out with Spandua Ballet. Is that some sort of cover band? I can handle all the critics or idiots who disagree with my comments like Brenski ans pingfah, that does not bother me a jot.Never mind that I don't take you seriously there when you claim it doesn't bother you, apparently you can't be bothered to write in English correctly, as always, no matter how many times we keep trying to point it out to you. Pot, you've got a very ugly kettle to wash off its black stains here. As i have stated before all your chums on here have spoilt your thread moaning about my commentsShut the fuck up. The only spoiler here is yourself. YOU came into this thread with your "Pink Floyd sucks" wah wah bit, and like a few other people already pointed out, you did not even address what I was talking about specifically with this thread. In fact, I'm certain you deliberately came into this thread to try and piss all over it as some sort of revenge for my recently renewed criticisms towards you. You don't usually participate in my threads to begin with. if you do not like what i have said you do not have to replyWould be nice if you'd apply that medicine to yourself there, hypocrite. well you will not get rid of me on here, i am like marmite you either love me or hate me, but get over yourselves yeah.Likewise. I know Queen are the greatest group ever and if you all disagree then you should drop the act pretending you love Queen when you are comparing them to a another group.Subjective opinions are like an asshole: Everybody's got one. Deal with it. |
| Togg 17.10.2014 06:02 |
gerry wrote: It is legendary that fans of a group slag off another group, remember Spandua Ballet fans at logger heads with Duran Duran fans in the 1980s? Queen fans were at logger heads with Michael Jackson fans on one poll online, so it is nothing to do with been a cultural zombie because every one does it, so get off your high horse, pink floyd are crap.And that's your argument...? ha, sure if you're a 8 year old girl I'm sure Spandua's hair cuts were the days conversation... but after pre-prep most people grow into adults with an actual thought process... unless of course you headed to the football terraces throwing bottles at each other. |
| tomchristie22 17.10.2014 06:50 |
Gerry - do you seriously believe that to be a 'true' fan of a group, you have to believe that no other could possibly equal them? |
| gerry 17.10.2014 09:03 |
Yes yes yes! i remember seeing Queen in Elland Road Leeds back in 1982 and Queen fans bottled off the support acts including Bow wow wow and Teardrop Explodes, so your all wrong for accusing me of been childish! Method in madness people! |
| brENsKi 17.10.2014 09:40 |
gerry wrote: Yes yes yes! i remember seeing Queen in Elland Road Leeds back in 1982 and Queen fans bottled off the support acts including Bow wow wow and Teardrop Explodes, so your all wrong for accusing me of been childish! Method in madness people!the point isn't whether or not bands get bottled etc, it's whether YOU as a human being accept that other bands can be good. I saw queen on the same tour (at MK), me and my mate managed to get very close to the stage during the Teardrops' set, and we were part of the small number throwing stuff....I managed to throw a meat pie down the "bell" of the horn being played. (i'm not proud of this now) - Copey introduced every song as a "classic" or a "gem" - to their eternal credit they ran the gauntlet of everything throwable and completed their set. ...and you know what? after that gig I went out and bought BOTH Teardrops' albums, and have kept buying Cope's stuff to this day - because unlike you, my ears are not closed to other options. they may not be to everyone's taste, but i regard Copey as one of this country's lost treasures. you really are a dolt!!! (with an "L" - you clot) |
| Oscar J 17.10.2014 09:42 |
gerry wrote: Yes yes yes! i remember seeing Queen in Elland Road Leeds back in 1982 and Queen fans bottled off the support acts including Bow wow wow and Teardrop Explodes, so your all wrong for accusing me of been childish! Method in madness people! And you... actually support such behaviour? |
| gerry 17.10.2014 09:45 |
Brenski: Here is the proof of Queens world wide sales which you said was only 200 million sales. now who's the doit.! One of the world’s most prolific groups, Queen released 16 number one albums, 18 number one singles, and achieved over 300 million record sales. One of their most loved hits, ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ stayed at the top of the charts for nine weeks and their performance at the Live Aid concert in 1985 is widely regarded as a seminal moment in rock history. |
| brENsKi 17.10.2014 10:03 |
gerry wrote: Brenski: Here is the proof of Queens world wide sales which you said was only 200 million sales. now who's the doit.! One of the world’s most prolific groups, Queen released 16 number one albums, 18 number one singles, and achieved over 300 million record sales. One of their most loved hits, ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ stayed at the top of the charts for nine weeks and their performance at the Live Aid concert in 1985 is widely regarded as a seminal moment in rock history.more proof you're an idiot who can't read: you started off by saying 300mn albums, now you say 300mn records. all my previous posts cite ALBUM SALES as less than 200,000,000. have you not realised that YOU just pasted a paragraph that says "RECORD SALES" ???? RECORDS = albums, singles and EPs - you fucking idiot. My figures were ALBUM SALES - go back, re-read what i posted, then come back and apologise for arguing a point that was wrong. Or, alternatively, continue to prove that you're an illiterate belligerent fool ....i think WE ALL know what choice you'll make. just for once admit you are wrong. and why are YOU still typing "doit" ???? |
| Oscar J 17.10.2014 10:29 |
gerry wrote: Brenski: Here is the proof of Queens world wide sales which you said was only 200 million sales. now who's the doit.! One of the world’s most prolific groups, Queen released 16 number one albums, 18 number one singles, and achieved over 300 million record sales. One of their most loved hits, ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ stayed at the top of the charts for nine weeks and their performance at the Live Aid concert in 1985 is widely regarded as a seminal moment in rock history. Solid proof sir. Might wanna list the source next time, but what the heck! |
| gerry 17.10.2014 10:34 |
Record sales are still albums even though we live in a CD world and Queens sales are officially 300 million maybe more now. So you rightly should be ashamed of spoiling The Teardrops set at Leeds. I would never heckle or physically throw anything on to the stage as i am a well behaved Queen fan! Queen at St James Newcastle was Magnificent and i was at the front soaking up all the Mercury & May magic! |
| Pingfah 17.10.2014 10:37 |
Here is the proof that Queen only sold 200 million records: One of the world’s most prolific groups, Queen released 16 number one albums, 18 number one singles, and achieved over 200 million record sales. One of their most loved hits, ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ stayed at the top of the charts for nine weeks and their performance at the Live Aid concert in 1985 is widely regarded as a seminal moment in rock history. Indisputable proof. |
| brENsKi 17.10.2014 10:41 |
gerry wrote: Record sales are still albums even though we live in a CD world and Queens sales are officially 300 million maybe more now.you still don't get it...300m total sales. album sales = less than 200m, singles = 100m+ ps "album" is a collective noun to describe vinyl , cassettes and CDs - all in long-player format c'mon have the decency to admit you're wrong. gerry wrote:So you rightly should be ashamed of spoiling The Teardrops set at Leeds.i did no such thing...again learn to read - i was at MK. |
| gerry 17.10.2014 10:41 |
PINGFAH: If you were an ardent Queen fan like i am then you would know the bands impressive world wide sales. It seems no one is concerned with Queens amazing track record, they sure do leave other artists out in the cold, apart from The Beatles. |
| Another Roger (re) 17.10.2014 10:42 |
waunakonor wrote:I have nothing against Pink Floyd. It's just a band I happen to not enjoy that muchAnother Roger (re) wrote: I like a couple of Pink Floyd songs, but compared to Queen they are very boring. I get so ****** tired of their depressive songs with loooooong synth chords. I bought that best of album called "Echoes" many years ago. What a mistake that was. I expected them to have made more catchy songs during their careerSee, this is an actual criticism of the band and their music that someone can actually respond to. If Pink Floyd isn't your cup of tea, that's all right. For me and a lot of other people, music is about a lot more than catchy hooks, and Pink Floyd's lengthy, drawn-out piece are often brilliant works of music. If that's not for you, whatever, although I would advise listening to an actual album or two as opposed to a greatest hits album so you can listen to the music the way it was initially intended to be experienced. That said, this thread is a good example of why most fan forums suck. It's possible to be a big Queen fan and still really like a lot of other bands. Like I said earlier, Queen is my favorite band, but I take massive enjoyment from the works of PF and a load of other artists. There's such a huge world of music out there, especially with the Internet making all of it so easily accessible; refusing to enjoy more than one band seems like a waste of time. And, it cannot be stressed enough, YOU DO NOT GET TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE IS A "FAN." Haven't they had 3 different frontmen? Sid Barrett, Gilmour and Waters? Correct me if I am wrong. Imagine if Queen changed lineups like that. The Queen fans would not be happy. But I guess Freddie has a bigger impact as a singer in Queen compard with the less impressive Pink Floyd vocals. Someone mentioned that certain Queen fans can not acknowledge other good bands. I doubt there exists many people that can not enjoy and respect any other band than Queen. That would be a bit sad and narrow minded. I listen to a lot of different music, but to me Queen is a different league to the rest. |
| gerry 17.10.2014 10:43 |
Cmon Brenski 300 million sales is a combined total amount of everything within a bands career, albums, singles etc........ |
| gerry 17.10.2014 10:44 |
Abba has around 250 million world wide sales also. |
| Pingfah 17.10.2014 10:44 |
gerry wrote: PINGFAH: If you were an ardent Queen fan like i am then you would know the bands impressive world wide sales. It seems no one is concerned with Queens amazing track record, they sure do leave other artists out in the cold, apart from The Beatles.What are you talking about? I just posted proof. |
| brENsKi 17.10.2014 10:47 |
gerry wrote: Cmon Brenski 300 million sales is a combined total amount of everything within a bands career, albums, singles etc........Gezza: this is what YOU said: gerry wrote:Brenski: Queen album sales are over 300 million fact. Abba come second to Queen, look at your own spelling doit should be "idiot" silly boy.any chance you'll now admit you were wrong? |
| gerry 17.10.2014 10:49 |
pingfah: what i meant was folk on here did not believe me when i stated earlier that Queen have sold over 300 million sales, so i done my research and found the same answer and also even The official Queen Biography says the same. |
| gerry 17.10.2014 10:51 |
Brenski: why would i admit i am wrong when i have seen it with my own eyes on the web and in books lol do your own research and see! |
| brENsKi 17.10.2014 11:01 |
gerry wrote: Brenski: why would i admit i am wrong when i have seen it with my own eyes on the web and in books lol do your own research and see!try reading this properly, then read it again before you reply. these are quotes from posts made by YOU !!! FIRST YOU SAID THIS: gerry wrote:Brenski: Queen album sales are over 300 million fact. Abba come second to Queen, look at your own spelling doit should be "idiot" silly boy.NOW YOU SAID THIS: gerry wrote:Cmon Brenski 300 million sales is a combined total amount of everything within a bands career, albums, singles etc........CAN'T YOU SEE YOU HAVE CONTRADICTED YOURSELF? time to admit that your first post was wrong. or are you still going to show yourself to be the idiot you are? ANYONE here can now see you have contradicted yourself...except (strangely enough) you. do yourself a favour admit it, you have changed what you're saying. |
| gerry 17.10.2014 11:10 |
No i hav'nt, its just you making something of nothing as usual and i am not on here to score points unlike you. 300 MILLION SALES is a lot, look check out the xfactor when a star gust comes on and read the history of that artist, it make say something like One Direction 2 million sales (just an example) when Queen appeared on xfactor it said 300 million sales. Those sales cover everything Queen has sold. |
| brENsKi 17.10.2014 11:17 |
gerry wrote:No i hav'nt, its just you making something of nothing as usual and i am not on here to score points unlike you. 300 MILLION SALES is a lot, when Queen appeared on xfactor it said 300 million sales. Those sales cover everything Queen has sold.for the love of f*cking christ, you imbecilic moronic cretinous buffoon. 300m ALBUM sales is different to 300m TOTAL sales this is not something i have invented - you do know how windows cut n paste works don;t you? these are YOUR posts:- gerry wrote:Brenski: Queen album sales are over 300 million fact. Abba come second to Queen, look at your own spelling doit should be "idiot" silly boy. gerry wrote:Cmon Brenski 300 million sales is a combined total amount of everything within a bands career, albums, singles etc........why can't YOU see the difference between YOUR two statements? are you genuinely that f*cking dense? if you are then "dolt" doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of your stupidity - so much so that - despite this site having its share of "ne're do thinks" over the years, you dear Gezza make them ALL look bright. |
| Vocal harmony 17.10.2014 11:21 |
Gerry I DONE my research too. I would like to take this opportunity to publish my findings here. . . After careful ongoing study I feel I can confidently announce that Gerry (GE if using his weird abbreviated naming system) is a complete and utter idiot beyond any measure of the term as used in the English language. Another point I'd like to make. . . . Geddy Lee is a better Bass player than JD, in fact for the most part he pisses on him Diamanda Gallis has a far greater vocal ranger than FM and has used that range far more imaginatively then most of what FM ever did, ( DONE if you're not sure what English sounds like) She is a far better pianist, as is Tori Amos Jeff Beck, Steve Vai, Hendrix and many many others have recorded and or played better guitar solos than BM Neil Peart, Chad Wakerman, ilan Ruben and many others can play rings around RT Pink Floyd, during the 70's and early 80's used lighting in a much more imaginative way then Queen This list is the tip of many icebergs. You are a deranged narrow minded blinkered fool. |
| gerry 17.10.2014 11:28 |
vocal harmony: you are sad and pathetic. what a ridiculous post. |
| gerry 17.10.2014 11:34 |
Brenski: i think you've had too much whiz mate, because now your blaming my computer and windows. ha ha ha ! why not go and read a good Queen biography darling and educate yourself on Queen history. |
| The Real Wizard 17.10.2014 15:11 |
gerry wrote: Real Queen fans would not dare to compare another group to our beloved Queen, how dare they. I know Queen are the greatest group ever and if you all disagree then you should drop the act pretending you love Queen when you are comparing them to a another group.The fact that you see a band like a religious cult is actually quite scary. But, it all makes sense now. In fact, what I've quoted above should be impetus for everyone here to stop trying to reason with you. With a cult mentality, one cannot be reasoned with. Your ability to consider the validity of someone else's position on any matter is literally nil. You reject any conflicting ideas (or even facts) as wrong. I know the following statement will have absolutely zero effect on you, but here it goes anyway - there are children with more functional brains than you have. Praying to Ganesh that you will never breed. Carry on.. |
| inu-liger 17.10.2014 15:58 |
At this point Gerry is accomplishing one of the following two possibilities -Acting like a dickish troll purely for the rocknrolllover style fun of things, secretly knowing he's wrong anyways or just inventing things as he goes just to wind us up. or -Proving that he is indeed of an extremist stepford, cultish "church of Freddie" mindset (with a hint of narcissicm) and truly incable even in real life of letting ANY person win an argument with him, regardless of the solid validity of facts or not as far as he is concerned. It's ALL about him being right no matter what, in this case. Either case would definitely make a solid reason not to engage with Gerry any more, even with kid gloves, on a serious basis. |
| brENsKi 17.10.2014 16:32 |
The Real Wizard wrote:too late. i suspect the genetic damage was done long ago...gerry wrote: Real Queen fans would not dare to compare another group to our beloved Queen, how dare they.I know Queen are the greatest group ever and if you all disagree then you should drop the act pretending you love Queen when you are comparing them to a another group.The fact that you see a band like a religious cult is actually quite scary. But, it all makes sense now. Praying to Ganesh that you will never breed. Carry on.. Gezza = proof that siblings should NOT breed :-) |
| The Real Wizard 18.10.2014 00:59 |
brENsKi wrote: Gezza = proof that siblings should NOT breed :-)Ha ha !! Cruel ;) |
| Another Roger (re) 18.10.2014 01:51 |
brENsKi wrote: too late. i suspect the genetic damage was done long ago... Gezza = proof that siblings should NOT breed :-)If gezza has a problem I would rather help him than post characterstics like that. Maybe he should change way of discussing a little bit. But I dont understand how a discussion about music can lead to descriptions like that. Have a nice weekend everybody :) |
| brENsKi 18.10.2014 02:04 |
Another Roger (re) wrote:good luck with your initial diagnosis, and subsequent cure Dr Roger.brENsKi wrote: too late. i suspect the genetic damage was done long ago... Gezza = proof that siblings should NOT breed :-)If gezza has a problem I would rather help him than post characterstics like that. Maybe he should change way of discussing a little bit. But I dont understand how a discussion about music can lead to descriptions like that. Have a nice weekend everybody :) FYI - perhaps you'd care to look at some of the completely unwarranted insults Gezza has levelled at many different people on this very site. My joking comment in no way matches his level of unsophisticated crapperisms. |
| Doga 18.10.2014 02:58 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Cruel but fairbrENsKi wrote: Gezza = proof that siblings should NOT breed :-)Ha ha !! Cruel ;) link |
| Another Roger (re) 18.10.2014 06:06 |
brENsKi wrote:Nice sarcastic touch calling me Dr.Roger.Another Roger (re) wrote:good luck with your initial diagnosis, and subsequent cure Dr Roger. FYI - perhaps you'd care to look at some of the completely unwarranted insults Gezza has levelled at many different people on this very site. My joking comment in no way matches his level of unsophisticated crapperisms.brENsKi wrote: too late. i suspect the genetic damage was done long ago... Gezza = proof that siblings should NOT breed :-)If gezza has a problem I would rather help him than post characterstics like that. Maybe he should change way of discussing a little bit. But I dont understand how a discussion about music can lead to descriptions like that. Have a nice weekend everybody :) I have no idea what he has previously said. I admit that. If its been bad I guess he has brought it on himself. But it has to stop somewhere doesnt it? Feel free to go on, What will you achieve though? Apart from personal satisfaction. |
| brENsKi 18.10.2014 09:14 |
AR - i wasn't being sarcastic - truly. Only referred to you as Dr Roger as it's going to take a really good doctor - a specialist in mental health - to make any inroads with one particular QZoner. one more point - Gezza - as a rule seems to insist on spouting absolute bollocks and untruths about any subject to do with Queen. When he's challenged about this he then resorts to insults and aggression. For my part, I really don't agree with allowing some of his "factoids" to go unchecked. Can you imagine how most urban myths becomes "accepted truth" - because people like gezza keep saying stuff so often that it ain't long before reasonable people believe their lies too. |
| Another Roger (re) 18.10.2014 09:36 |
brENsKi wrote: AR - i wasn't being sarcastic - truly. Only referred to you as Dr Roger as it's going to take a really good doctor - a specialist in mental health - to make any inroads with one particular QZoner. one more point - Gezza - as a rule seems to insist on spouting absolute bollocks and untruths about any subject to do with Queen. When he's challenged about this he then resorts to insults and aggression. For my part, I really don't agree with allowing some of his "factoids" to go unchecked. Can you imagine how most urban myths becomes "accepted truth" - because people like gezza keep saying stuff so often that it ain't long before reasonable people believe their lies too.No problem :) You are probably right. As I said I jumped into this without knowing too much about the history. I think I am finished in this thread until I know more about the subject. Hope you all have a nice saturday though :) |
| Oscar J 18.10.2014 09:56 |
Hey Another Roger, where's that quote in your signature from? I have a feeling I've heard it before. |
| Chief Mouse 18.10.2014 10:01 |
Oscar J wrote: Hey Another Roger, where's that quote in your signature from? I have a feeling I've heard it before. Roger said this during an interview about Magic tour on the 2003 Wembley DVD. http://youtu.be/Mj844gvCpko?t=3m55s |
| Another Roger (re) 18.10.2014 10:05 |
Chief Mouse wrote:Spot on! :) I hope the quote is accurate, but I took it from the top of my head so it might be slightly different!Oscar J wrote: Hey Another Roger, where's that quote in your signature from? I have a feeling I've heard it before.Roger said this during an interview about Magic tour on the 2003 Wembley DVD. |
| Chief Mouse 18.10.2014 10:07 |
Here's the video of it :) link |
| WKMahlerMahlers.Com 22.10.2014 19:15 |
I've heard both Queen & Pink Floyds new work Let Me In Your Heart Again and Louder Than Words and Im not impressed by either. Don't get me wrong, they are good songs, just not the bands best. At least PF is putting out new unreleased material and no rehashing old stuff like Queen is doing.... |
| Mercurydoc 23.10.2014 13:25 |
I really like Let me in your heart again. Just disappointed that there weren't more unreleased songs to be added to the album. |
| Heavenite 23.10.2014 19:23 |
Only one MJ track was released. Sort of a lure to get his fans on board I would think. Holding the other two back is actually clever marketing I think. Brian said he can reconstruct more Queen songs, so why not have an MJ song to add to anything else they release to help sales. Haven't heard either Louder than Word or the "new" Queen tracks, as I'm waiting for their CD release date. Love both bands and will be particularly interested to hear some new material, especially a whole album in the Floyd case. |
| Viper 26.11.2014 06:12 |
Pink Floyd's The Endless River is not a great album. Kinda boring. The single, the only track with vocals, is weak. |
| The Real Wizard 26.11.2014 11:54 |
I'd say it's the best two surviving members could've done with 20 year old tapes. As long as you don't expect another Dark Side, you'll find a lot of lovely music in there. Personally, it's exactly what I expected a final Floyd album to sound like - ranging from new age to mid tempo, stacks of keys and Gilmour's unmistakable sound. |
| brENsKi 26.11.2014 17:20 |
it's very much "of the time" - but that's no bad thing...has a certain trance feel of a lot of the music i liked around that time. also reminds me of a couple of "floyd albums remixed" that i heard at that time - one was - i think called "the trance remixes" |
| LucasDiego 27.11.2014 10:14 |
In USA, PF charts 6 with the new album, excellent album, and QF, now charts 198, very terrible fall |
| brENsKi 27.11.2014 11:20 |
says it all really. well done on presenting the undisputed facts. |
| EDWOOD 29.11.2014 06:33 |
The US has been inundated by Queen 'hits' compilations over the years, whilst the typical well-known greatest hits albums sell very well there for catalogue albums. There was no way this album would sell huge amounts. At least it did give Queen another top 40 Billboard album. |