QueenZone discussion #1401794

gerry wrote: i post where i want so stop moaning! its my thread m8.

EDWOOD wrote: Let's face it the era of Queen+ touring won't continue for that much longer surely? Brian will be 70 in 2017 and Roger a couple of years later.

gerry wrote:Interesting comments to my thread on here.Personally a selection of guests on tour with Queen would have been great, and more value for money.

gerry wrote:To pay over £77+ booking fee is a bit steep when only 2 original members of a group is present. George Michael, and Gary Cerrone where interesting choices and better singers than Lambert.

gerry wrote: i post where i want so stop moaning! its my thread m8.

gerry wrote:Your calling Deep purple a karaoke version of themselves well that entirely sums up Queen now! Have you notice Queen have stopped all the massive lighting rigs and scaled it down to a bare minimum?

gerry wrote:Just think Brian and Roger doing there version of Bostons "More than a feeling"

brENsKi wrote:

gerry wrote:Just think Brian and Roger doing there version of Bostons "More than a feeling"

neither of them could reach Brad Delph's notes - in fact I doubt Freddie coulda reach the high extremes of Brad's range.

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: I'd like to see a witch doctor or someone like that raise Freddie from the dead and have his unholy resurrected self front Queen. It would certainly mean a lot of free publicity, and might generate a certain amount of appeal amongst metal fans, virtually guaranteeing a 'harder' setlist for the tour. If we all chip in I think this could really work.

gerry well that entirely sums up Queen now! Have you notice Queen have stopped all the massive lighting rigs and scaled it down to a bare minimum?

gerry wrote: wow yeah i remember freddie at montreux rock festival 1986 and his voice did shake the place to its foundations.

Vocal harmony wrote:

gerry well that entirely sums up Queen now! Have you notice Queen have stopped all the massive lighting rigs and scaled it down to a bare minimum?

Gerry are you blind. The production, including lighting is the biggest Queen have toured with since The Magic tour. The lighting rig is big, by any standards, A wall of lights either side of a central screen, plus over head and floor level lighting. Incase you haven't noticed this is 2014 not the early 80's one Clay Paky or Varilite with colour changing filters will do the job of multiple Par cans with a single gel option. You don't need the same number of lights to gain the same colour coverage. Also modern lamps can often be multi functional a perform the job of flooding/ colour washing or being used as a spot. They are also multi directional which also means less lemmas to do the job. When you know what your talking about, maybe more people will take note.

gerry wrote: i have seen this lighting rig on you tube clips and to be honest not as impressive as Queens 1978 lighting rig the pizza oven. but do not really know whats with the massive "Q" as they hardly have anything to represent it now do they?

gerry wrote: i have seen this lighting rig on you tube clips and to be honest not as impressive as Queens 1978 lighting rig the pizza oven. but do not really know whats with the massive "Q" as they hardly have anything to represent it now do they?

inu-liger wrote:

EDWOOD wrote: Let's face it the era of Queen+ touring won't continue for that much longer surely? Brian will be 70 in 2017 and Roger a couple of years later.

So? Try making that argument with Roger Waters and Paul McCartney.

gerry wrote: Queens music and particularly freddies songs were tailored around his own singing abilities

Mr.Mouth wrote: Brad is very good singer but in a way of strenght or sing high like Freddie is immposible.

gerry wrote: but do not really know whats with the massive "Q" as they hardly have anything to represent it now do they?

The King Of Rhye wrote: I dont think they had stuff like lasers in 78 tho

brENsKi wrote: As for lighting-rigs - i think that's got nothing to do with the argument. it doesn't make a band karaoke if they don't have huge stage sets. some might argue that the bigger the show the less there is actually worth seeing/hearing? As in the expression "all flash and no substance" - a facade if you like.

gerry wrote: i have seen this lighting rig on you tube clips and to be honest not as impressive as Queens 1978 lighting rig the pizza oven. but do not really know whats with the massive "Q" as they hardly have anything to represent it now do they?

EDWOOD wrote: Yes certain performers can and do perform well into their 70s although arguably Paul McCartney can be cited as someone whose vocal talents have diminished considerably. This is not a slight on him - it happens. No-one can sound the same in their 70s as they can in their 20s or 30s.

SweetCaroline wrote: As with any live performance, you have to be there to really appreciate it. I've seen the pizza oven rig (they used it in 2012

brENsKi wrote:

gerry wrote:wow yeah i remember freddie at montreux rock festival 1986and his voice did shake the place to its foundations.

surely you mean "that backing tape did shake the place to its foundations" ??? you do realise that it was a mimed performance don't you? Freddie's mike was only really live for the in-between songs banter and the vocal ad-lib thingy.

brENsKi wrote:

gerry wrote: wow yeah i remember freddie at montreux rock festival 1986 and his voice did shake the place to its foundations.

surely you mean "that backing tape did shake the place to its foundations" ??? you do realise that it was a mimed performance don't you? Freddie's mike was only really live for the in-between songs banter and the vocal ad-lib thingy.

Mr.Mouth wrote:

brENsKi wrote:

gerry wrote:Just think Brian and Roger doing there version of Bostons "More than a feeling"

neither of them could reach Brad Delph's notes - in fact I doubt Freddie coulda reach the high extremes of Brad's range.

Brad is very good singer but in a way of strenght or sing high like Freddie is immposible. You forget when Freddie sings high he is like a powerhouse,so much strenght in that notes that itsure can fill stadiums withou mic..hehe Freddie Mercury is Real Deal, its just a fact,he is the one you cant argue abou nothing just deal that he is the best!Look at Montreux86 his vocal exhibition.. He kils it with strenght,POWERFULL!!

The Real Wizard wrote:

The King Of Rhye wrote: I dont think they had stuff like lasers in 78 tho

They actually did. Zeppelin used them in 77 for Page's bow solo.

Zebonka12 wrote: "why not Kerry Ellis? Great voice" But not that great. Honestly, the low calibre of some of the singers that get suggested here just boggles the mind. Kerry Ellis hasn't done anything wrong but she's just not that good. It really is like grabbing a valet in his first week at work, knowing that he drives cars for a living, and expecting him to be ready to win races at Laguna Seca. Some guest singers have been good for shits and giggles, but the Queen+ model has been mostly shonky since it came about. I maintain that I'm glad Brian and Roger are still gigging, and I'd see them if I could, but the people they choose to work with are a bloody pain to listen to sometimes. Culminating in having some random Ukrainian Idol contestant guesting on WWRY a couple of years back, it's obvious to me that Brian is just too nice a guy to say 'no' anymore. That doesn't make him a shitty guy, but the revolving door approach is putting them closer and closer to being just a very expensive open mic night. Gaga's guest spot was fucking awful too.

cexycy wrote: How about no extra front man? Brian May and Roger Taylor have both fronted live gigs before, so why not let them do one together? That way you hear Queen as Queen. (Brian and Roger still exist as Queen, so that last sentance is technically true. )

SweetCaroline wrote:I'm going to see "Foreigner" in November and the only remaining guy from the original band is Mick Jones. THEY don't seem to have a problem using the original name. Neither does Journey with Arnel Pineda as their front man!

brENsKi wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote:I'm going to see "Foreigner" in November and the only remaining guy from the original band is Mick Jones. THEY don't seem to have a problem using the original name. Neither does Journey with Arnel Pineda as their front man!

yeah, but Foreigner and Journey clearly don't have stepford lunatic fans like RocknRollblunder & Gezza ...or if they do then they had them all locked up in asylums

brENsKi wrote:

brENsKi wrote:

gerry wrote:wow yeah i remember freddie at montreux rock festival 1986and his voice did shake the place to its foundations.

surely you mean "that backing tape did shake the place to its foundations" ??? you do realise that it was a mimed performance don't you? Freddie's mike was only really live for the in-between songs banter and the vocal ad-lib thingy.

Gerry, you going to reply to this? or is this just more proof that your queen knowledge isn't actually knowledge? can't believe you actually thought a mimed performance was live

gerry wrote: Brenski: yes i do know Montreux 86 was a mimed performance, but "Live Aid" was not! Freddie shook the stadium to its foundations! Sorry for the confusion and yes i admit i got a little confused there, but a lot of Queen history as swept by me over the last 40 years. Even Brian and Roger get very confused over certain dates and concerts but are you going to call them idiotic as well?

gerry wrote:Brenski: yes i do know Montreux 86 was a mimed performance, but "Live Aid" was not!Freddie shook the stadium to its foundations! Sorry for the confusion and yes i admit i got a little confused there, but a lot of Queen history

gerry wrote:nitroboy i would rather be an idiot than a complete wanker like you.

Oscar J wrote:l Simpleton = handsome guy with a Red Special replica.

gerry wrote: yeah the red special replica probably has more brains in it than inu-liger has in his empty head.

inu-liger wrote:

gerry wrote: yeah the red special replica probably has more brains in it than inu-liger has in his empty head.

Hey if you're going to refer to the good Dr., at least get his name right. It's Brian, not Brain. Good lord, and you call yourself a "Queen fan." Sheesh! ;) ;)

Vocal harmony wrote: ^^^ Yeah you're right. A great voice in every other respect though. Finding good singers isn't the problem. Finding good singers with the range Freddie could reach, on a good night, are harder to find, hence the problems BM and RT face, and the more obvious a choice someone like AL is.

gerry wrote: excuse me it is constructive criticism and i am very sorry if spelt Brians name wrong but one day you will get poor eye sight. Your like a bunch of kids trying to score points to make your selves look smart, Lets just get on with the actual discussion and cut the shit yeah?

gerry wrote: sweetcaroline : now i know you are desperate. sure you fancy adam and you support the lady but for goodness sake get a grip. He is only a karaoke singer on american idol, he has never had a no1 album in the uk and people here hardly know him for damns sake.

gerry wrote: sweetcaroline : now i know you are desperate. sure you fancy adam and you support the lady but for goodness sake get a grip. He is only a karaoke singer on american idol, he has never had a no1 album in the uk and people here hardly know him for damns sake.

gerry wrote:He is only a karaoke singer on american idol, he has never had a no1 album in the uk

The King Of Rhye wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

The King Of Rhye wrote: I dont think they had stuff like lasers in 78 tho

They actually did. Zeppelin used them in 77 for Page's bow solo.

I stand corrected! At any rate tho, I dont think Queen was using em yet......lol

brENsKi wrote: yeah, but Foreigner and Journey clearly don't have stepford lunatic fans like RocknRollblunder & Gezza ...or if they do then they had them all locked up in asylums

The Real Wizard wrote:

brENsKi wrote:yeah, but Foreigner and Journey clearly don't have stepford lunatic fans like RocknRollblunder & Gezza ...or if they do then they had them all locked up in asylums

Speaking of Asylum - do Supertramp fans have this same closed-minded attitude towards the band without Roger Hodgson? Or do they just go see Roger live if they want to and peacefully go on with their lives without pontificating?

Nitroboy wrote: So, not having a no. 1 album in the UK, automatically means that you can't be temporary lead singer for a band?.....

gerry wrote: i would rather be an idiot

gerry wrote: yeah the red special replica probably has more brains in it than inu-liger has in his empty head.

gerry wrote: Brenski: i never mentioned Tom Petty, Aerosmith, Soundgarden, The Doors etc as karaoke performers so where did you get that from?

gerry wrote: i no different.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam never missed a beat or a cue

gerry wrote:nitroboy i would rather be an idiot.

brENsKi wrote: ps>> Bob, did you get the scans i emailed you?

The Real Wizard wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam never missed a beat or a cue

There were some blips in the first few shows, including completely missing the second verse of Stone Cold Crazy in Saskatoon. Of course these things happen, as Freddie had his fair share of bloopers too. Everyone does. I admire your enthusiasm, but you gotta stick to facts :-)

gerry wrote:ha ha its the company i keep like you brenski

gerry wrote:Brenski: winding me up is not working mate

Zebonka12 wrote: "why not Kerry Ellis? Great voice" But not that great. Honestly, the low calibre of some of the singers that get suggested here just boggles the mind. Kerry Ellis hasn't done anything wrong but she's just not that good. It really is like grabbing a valet in his first week at work, knowing that he drives cars for a living, and expecting him to be ready to win races at Laguna Seca. Some guest singers have been good for shits and giggles, but the Queen+ model has been mostly shonky since it came about. I maintain that I'm glad Brian and Roger are still gigging, and I'd see them if I could, but the people they choose to work with are a bloody pain to listen to sometimes. Culminating in having some random Ukrainian Idol contestant guesting on WWRY a couple of years back, it's obvious to me that Brian is just too nice a guy to say 'no' anymore. That doesn't make him a shitty guy, but the revolving door approach is putting them closer and closer to being just a very expensive open mic night. Gaga's guest spot was fucking awful too.

gerry wrote: Now instead of wasting time bickering, either take part in the discussion of this thread or shout your mouth zippy.

gerry wrote: Brenski: you have lost the plot and need psychiatric help, your rambling on with something that has nothing to do with my thread, so kindly fuck off.

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gerry wrote: you take any opportunity to act like a spoilt little girl to put my opinions down, that is the sure sign of poor self esteem.

gerry wrote: ha ha and by the look of your avatar you look like a simpleton yourself m8

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Why can't you accept that some people just don't care for all this latter-day touring? If you enjoy it, fine by me. I don't, and I don't appreciate missionaries like yourself trying to 'convert the unbeliever', thank you very much.

Holly2003 wrote: I don't like Lambert's voice and for me the artistic value of this tour is questionable but credit where it's due -- Lambert seems to be doing everything right, the shows are well-attended, and the reviews are good. By almost any standard it can be measured by, it has been a successful tour.

SweetCaroline wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: I don't like Lambert's voice and for me the artistic value of this tour is questionable but credit where it's due -- Lambert seems to be doing everything right, the shows are well-attended, and the reviews are good. By almost any standard it can be measured by, it has been a successful tour.

I understand because I was able to fall in love with his voice slowly over a number of weeks and now a number of years when he has sung so many different types of music from rock to reggae to very soft ballads.

The King Of Rhye wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: I don't like Lambert's voice and for me the artistic value of this tour is questionable but credit where it's due -- Lambert seems to be doing everything right, the shows are well-attended, and the reviews are good. By almost any standard it can be measured by, it has been a successful tour.

I understand because I was able to fall in love with his voice slowly over a number of weeks and now a number of years when he has sung so many different types of music from rock to reggae to very soft ballads.

Personally I hope he starts doing more rock.........I actually checked out a Lambert best-of from the library the other day......not really my kind of music, but, of course he does have a hell of a voice............I do rather like the song Trespassing, though.....(almost an AOBTD-meets-WWRY vibe there)

SweetCaroline wrote:

brENsKi wrote: having an evident bassline doesn't give it a vibe. if anything, i hear bits of Boney M, Earth Wind and Fire, Joan Jett but no AOBTD, sorry.

Sheer Brass Neck wrote:John Deacon, lover of funk, hits the road with Errol Brown from Hot Chocolate on vocals, John on rhythm guitar, Sheila E. on percussion, the Earth, Wind and Fire horn section and George Clinton from Parliament Funkadelic as Master of Ceremonies. Is this Queen? And if it isn't I'd love to hear a logical reason why it isn't.

gerry wrote: Brenski: you have lost the plot and need psychiatric help, your rambling on with something that has nothing to do with my thread, so kindly fuck off.

Sheer Brass Neck wrote: John Deacon, lover of funk, hits the road with Errol Brown from Hot Chocolate on vocals, John on rhythm guitar, Sheila E. on percussion, the Earth, Wind and Fire horn section and George Clinton from Parliament Funkadelic as Master of Ceremonies. Is this Queen? And if it isn't I'd love to hear a logical reason why it isn't.

BETA215 wrote: This is the person I would like to see fronting Queen: link

The Real Wizard wrote:

BETA215 wrote: This is the person I would like to see fronting Queen: link

If you're going to go through the effort to perform a resurrection, why not bring Freddie back? ;)

The King Of Rhye wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote:

Hi King! That's exactly what was being said about the song Trespassing when it first came out--that it had the same vibe as AOBTD (was written by Adam and Pharrell Williams)! I think Adam really loves AOBTD and is happy to be performing it on the QAL tour. My favorite is Stone Cold Crazy! RCA wanted Adam to do an album of rock covers and that's kind of what caused the parting of the ways between him and the label but it probably would have been a heck of a great album. Have you seen any of his performances of Whole Lotta Love?

Rubbersuit wrote: I don't think I want to see anyone fronting Queen at this point. Sorry - but I"m not feeling it anymore. I'd like to see Brian and Roger do solo shows - maybe with a deeper dive into the catalog, but the stadium-rocking, Queen+ formula leaves me cold.

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

Rubbersuit wrote: I don't think I want to see anyone fronting Queen at this point. Sorry - but I"m not feeling it anymore. I'd like to see Brian and Roger do solo shows - maybe with a deeper dive into the catalog, but the stadium-rocking, Queen+ formula leaves me cold.

Sounds great to me! I'd especially like it if they made a new album together, one that's not a continuation of Queen, but an extension of their solo-work!

br5946 wrote: Just like a previous user said, I would really like to see Tom Chaplin fronting when Keane are on their breaks. Seriously, if he can pretty much parallel Freddie on It's A Hard Life, he could do any Queen track live, more or less, since Hard Life is one of the top 5 in terms of hardest vocal. But here's an extra idea for the purists who want Freddie back - just get some old video of him singing and occasionally playing piano if the song on the setlist has it, and then get Brian, Roger and the live bassist to play along. Just like the Q+PR versions of Bo Rhap.

br5946 wrote: ... since Hard Life is one of the top 5 in terms of hardest vocal.