I suppose Roger will be "looking at the demos" on the shelf of the archive, if he ever goes to that room.
That's doesn't mean he's listening to them, let alone working on them.
I don't know of its brilliant or not saving material with Freddie. He's dead. As consumers were smart enough to recognize that so it's inherently disappointing that Queen Forever doesn't have everything they know they have or even the best of it. They should be just released an album of as much unreleased stuff as possible. I understand the creative process and you can't be mechanical and build every half song in to a masterpiece but from what I've heard there's more stuff left. Even the Michael Jackson song is something we've heard before. Where is this victory song that inspired the Jacksons so much they named the album after it. I don't know it kinda leaves a bad taste in your mouth and maybe a misstep.
khe73 wrote: Greg Brookes said at convention, Brian and Roger may be looking at the unfinished Demos,
Face it alone
Robbery
Dog with a bone
etc...
You're speaking about the very recent Convention ?
Did he say anything else ? Did they show some video material or play tracks which weren't presented at the previous conventions ?
The truth is everything will not be released all at once.
The guys need a regular income so will be just teasing us all with a couple of tracks every album.
If they actually took more interest in us ardent fans instead of galloping round the globe with that tosser from american idol
then we may get a decent product for once instead of 3 new tracks and more of the same old songs after that.
gerry wrote:
The guys need a regular income so will be just teasing us all with a couple of tracks every album.
Greatest Hits sells about a quarter of a million copies a year. I'd guess the rest of the catalogue does the same, maybe more.
At least two tracks a year are licenced for a film/ad/Tv show somewhere in the world. A couple more will appear on a various artists compilation each year too.
UK Radio pays for playing Queen songs.
Performing rights from pubs, live cover versions are paid to the copyright holders.
I believe that licensing for merchandise is always at a rate of 25% of gross.
All of the above, WITHOUT RELEASING ANYTHING, will generate a regular income far in excess of what you and I would earn in 10 years.
So please, argue that all future archive releases will be drip-fed out. By all means. But at least have a logical argument to back it up - there's nothing more depressing than seeing lazy assumptions regurgitated as established fact.
The thing is with demos is that usually its an idea which one person has been dealing with and all the instrumentation is played on a synth. They cant call it Queen with out all the members on the track. The reason these three track have been released is because John played on it. Without John they never would have been released. Of course, and im assuming here, if John hadnt retired they would have a whole wealth of bits and bobs with Mercurys vocals
Sure they could. There are plenty of tracks in the catalogue that only have 1-2 members on it and it's still Queen....
One example? FIght From The Inside
Fight From The Inside
Credits
Written by: Roger Taylor
Produced by: Queen, assisted by Mike Stone
Musicians:
Roger Taylor - lead and backing vocals, drums, rhythm guitar, bass guitar
Brian May - guitars
No Freddie, no John...still called a Queen song.
Of course i may be wrong and ultimately im just guessing of course, but my take is that now Freddie has gone i dont think they will feel easy releasing a song under the Queen banner without all four members playing their instruments. Or perceived to be playing their instruments anyway. I dont think we'll see a new Queen released song with just say Mr Mercury playing all the instruments. If they did want to release a song like that theyd strip it down and start again like Made In Heaven. But then thered be no John there...............and then the question would be: would that be Queen? There seems to be a push to say that Queen were a band, a band in the truest form, and releasing a song with only 2/3 members involved may muddy the waters a little. It would be like The Beatles releasing a song without Ringo and Paul McCartney. Or a new Nirvana single without Dave Grohl. I think you can do that if they are all alive and in the group, but once its being released posthumously its a different matter. Of course this is just my opinion though, and my mind can change at a moments notice
khe73 wrote: Greg Brookes said at convention, Brian and Roger may be looking at the unfinished Demos,
Face it alone
Robbery
Dog with a bone
etc...
Ok, let's get it right. Greg did mention the band were looking at some old songs, but he mentioned Face it Alone and I Guess Were Falling Out. He didn't mention Robbery or Dog With A Bone.
With that being said there was an interview from the past two years where Roger actually name-checked Dog With A Bone as a track he had forgotten they had done but was a fun track so they (or at least *HE*) was looking at it semi-recently :D
Very interesting that Greg Brooks mentioned this. Now you would think that he must have had authority from Brian and Roger to state this as fact.
I wonder if it's just to keep Queen fans happy thinking there may be more unreleased material in the pipeline after the somewhat lukewarm response to there being only 3 'new' songs on Queen Forever.
We all know Greg has made some statement in the past that haven't come to fruition. That's not his fault I suppose - it's the bands decision ultimately what happens but I wonder how he feels about the approach QP takes sometimes? I'm sure he wants us to hear as much of the material he's located over the years as we are.