QueenZone discussion #1399444

AhmedQueen wrote: I'm not a native speaker, so if someone can help will be great but when I look away people know my mind is [???] to where I once belong,Just let me in your heart again, your heart again, let me in your heart again Open the doors for me babe. It's your heart again.

wOvANz wrote: It's obvious that the song wasn't finished, cos Freddie's vocal is the way he used to sing on demos, he sings in a very free manner, so powerfull. And it's a great! From the first strings he blows away Anita's version. He was incredible.

gerry wrote: Brenski: If you do not like the new Queen track " Let me in your heart again" then do not buy it but please stop moaning because us ardent Queen fans have been waiting for this for 23 years, and it is a joy to hear Freddie after such a long time and all the shit from Adam Lambert. At long last the Master voice of Queen is finally back. "Let me in your heart again" is a brill track and its such a shame other un-finished tracks were not found from past Queen albums.

Sebastian wrote:

gerry wrote: Brenski: If you do not like the new Queen track " Let me in your heart again" then do not buy it but please stop moaning because us ardent Queen fans have been waiting for this for 23 years, and it is a joy to hear Freddie after such a long time and all the shit from Adam Lambert. At long last the Master voice of Queen is finally back. "Let me in your heart again" is a brill track and its such a shame other un-finished tracks were not found from past Queen albums.

Gerry: If you do not like the new Brenski comments do not read them but please stop moaning because us humans have been waiting for centuries to reach some kind of 'equality and diversity' where points of view are respected, and it is a joy to see people being able to have different points of view and defending them after such a long time and all the shit from people dismissing each other just because they don't agree.

gerry wrote: Brenski: If you do not like the new Queen track " Let me in your heart again" then do not buy it but please stop moaning because us ardent Queen fans have been waiting for this for 23 years, and it is a joy to hear Freddie after such a long time and all the shit from Adam Lambert. At long last the Master voice of Queen is finally back. "Let me in your heart again" is a brill track and its such a shame other un-finished tracks were not found from past Queen albums.

gerry wrote: If you actually sat down and read my posts you would see that i DO talk seriously about Queens music its just you been snide and smug saying oh you don't spell this right or you've spelt that wrong, now who's been a complete knob? i always give my opinions and very true i am too, its just that you like to be Queen bee as usual and to be honest i did not want to go on and on as this is a thread about Queens music, but you have done it again, by causing a disagreement, so well done for that. No one else on here goes at me the way you always do, so that must mean your just been a complete twat as per. now please do NOT under any circumstances reply back because its you Brenski that is spoiling this thread for all of us. Further more you are very rude for arrogantly saying that you correct me! When i need correcting i will not ask you.

gerry wrote: i would have been glad if the michael jackson track "Theres more to life than this" was not included and we had more un-released freddie tracks. by the way what happened to "State of shock"? i thought that would have made it on to the album?

gerry wrote: To be honest do we really care about the michael jackson tracks = no. After all this album is all about Freddie and should have lots of surprises on it but just one great track to which i am grateful for at least, I mean "There must be more to life" is a waste of space and freddies vocals sound like his "out the back" making a cup of tea!

gerry wrote: Sheer brass neck: i agree with your comments but when i have an opinion Brenski is very fast to tell me to shut up so its a case of pot kettle black yeah? Brenski just likes winding me up but you know what i don't take any crap from him because he is just a wind up merchant.

emrabt wrote: It would have been nice on Made in Heaven too, That was missing a ballad.

gerry wrote: Freddie said back in 89 there was loads of un-finished tracks.

wOvANz wrote: sadly, as far as we don't have any native English speaker on this forum

YourValentine wrote: it's a totally trivial pop tune imo..

madmega wrote: And why didn't they use Freddie's vocals from Mr. Bad Guy.

YourValentine wrote: it's a totally trivial pop tune imo.

Fastidious and Precise wrote: I can't help but hearing "when left to face the blues, i give you satisfaction" as opposed to " we laugh to face the blues". anyone else agree?

Wiley wrote: I like it. It could have easily been on The Works as it's just as good/bad as Open Windows, Treat it up or Man on the Prowl. I can see some resemblance with the main chord structure of Hammer to Fall but I would besurprised if that even played a part on it being shelved. On the resemblance I'm referring to the whole A - D/A Brian-esque cliche also used on Tear it up, AKOM, WWRY, it's late, etc. Although Let me in its not on the same key you can feel the same vibe and it kinda resembles a slightly slower version of HTF during the outtro.

The King Of Rhye wrote:

Wiley wrote: I like it. It could have easily been on The Works as it's just as good/bad as Open Windows, Treat it up or Man on the Prowl. I can see some resemblance with the main chord structure of Hammer to Fall but I would besurprised if that even played a part on it being shelved. On the resemblance I'm referring to the whole A - D/A Brian-esque cliche also used on Tear it up, AKOM, WWRY, it's late, etc. Although Let me in its not on the same key you can feel the same vibe and it kinda resembles a slightly slower version of HTF during the outtro.

That 'cliche' you're talking about was hardly original with Brian............listen to Start Me Up or Crazy Train (the same chords!)

Bohardy wrote: Wiley (nor anybody else on this thread) didn't suggest that Brian was the originator of the A D/A A lick; rather that for him it became a cliche of sorts. Which is entirely true. I'm sure guitarists had been using it for decades before Brian popularised it though, although I wouldn't have a clue where you might first find it on record.

The Real Wizard wrote:

The King Of Rhye wrote:

Wiley wrote: I like it. It could have easily been on The Works as it's just as good/bad as Open Windows, Treat it up or Man on the Prowl. I can see some resemblance with the main chord structure of Hammer to Fall but I would besurprised if that even played a part on it being shelved. On the resemblance I'm referring to the whole A - D/A Brian-esque cliche also used on Tear it up, AKOM, WWRY, it's late, etc. Although Let me in its not on the same key you can feel the same vibe and it kinda resembles a slightly slower version of HTF during the outtro.

That 'cliche' you're talking about was hardly original with Brian............listen to Start Me Up or Crazy Train (the same chords!)

Bang on, guys. I'm not entirely certain who first used this riff - Keith Richards or Paul Kossoff in Free (on All Right Now). Any guitar historians here? I'm not a Stones encyclopedia, but the earliest Stones song I can think of with that riff is Brown Sugar. So is Kossoff the answer? Or is there someone else in the 60s who is responsible?

Sunshine wrote:Has John rerecorded his parts?

Sunshine wrote: I am just curious how much of the release is from 1983 and what from 2014?

miraclesteinway wrote: actually Freddie does sing some of the backing vocals about a minute in, but that's all.

The Real Wizard wrote:

The King Of Rhye wrote:

Wiley wrote: I like it. It could have easily been on The Works as it's just as good/bad as Open Windows, Treat it up or Man on the Prowl. I can see some resemblance with the main chord structure of Hammer to Fall but I would besurprised if that even played a part on it being shelved. On the resemblance I'm referring to the whole A - D/A Brian-esque cliche also used on Tear it up, AKOM, WWRY, it's late, etc. Although Let me in its not on the same key you can feel the same vibe and it kinda resembles a slightly slower version of HTF during the outtro.

That 'cliche' you're talking about was hardly original with Brian............listen to Start Me Up or Crazy Train (the same chords!)

Bang on, guys. I'm not entirely certain who first used this riff - Keith Richards or Paul Kossoff in Free (on All Right Now). Any guitar historians here? I'm not a Stones encyclopedia, but the earliest Stones song I can think of with that riff is Brown Sugar. So is Kossoff the answer? Or is there someone else in the 60s who is responsible?

Holly2003 wrote: So in 1993, when Brian began work on Made in Heaven, he had already forgotten about the song he wrote and recorded with Queen for The Works (1984), and then re-recorded with his missus in 1988?

Golden Salmon wrote: There is an early "The Works" promo tape (and also an slightly different master) that features a 13 songs tracklist which includes LMIYHA and Man Made Paradise (which also might have made it to "Hot Space"), as well as Man On Fire and Let Me Live, or even I Go Crazy depending on which item we're talking about. It definitely was considered to be released back in 1983-84.

brENsKi wrote:

Golden Salmon wrote: There is an early "The Works" promo tape (and also an slightly different master) that features a 13 songs tracklist which includes LMIYHA and Man Made Paradise (which also might have made it to "Hot Space"), as well as Man On Fire and Let Me Live, or even I Go Crazy depending on which item we're talking about. It definitely was considered to be released back in 1983-84.

any links that go to prove the existence of the 13-track master?

GT wrote: A brief story about this cassette. It was me who found this tape, along with the Garden Lodge tapes way back in about 1995/6. I was searching through one of Feebies boxes looking for records and came across these gems. Although both cassette tapes for the GL recordings were inside their boxes, 'The Works' one was indeed empty.

Martin Packer wrote:I wonder if the removal of those tracks is why The Works is (or feels) so short. But then The Game also feels short.

Martin Packer wrote: Well, maybe there was stuff held back from The Game for Flash Gordon. But also, as you allude to, some of the stuff had to be pulled for e.g. copyright reasons.

brENsKi wrote:

Martin Packer wrote: Well, maybe there was stuff held back from The Game for Flash Gordon. But also, as you allude to, some of the stuff had to be pulled for e.g. copyright reasons.

the strangest thing about Let Me Live? - i'm sure I read somewhere that the working title was actually "Another Piece of My Heart" - so they absolutely knew what they were doing. and it' not like 3/4 of the band - who were in bands in the late 60s didn't hear the Joplin track a lot. there's no way - that one decade later you can have complete amnesia for a rock classic...unless, of course, said amnesia is elective.

Golden Salmon wrote: Early promo cassette tracklist: 1. Tear It Up 2. Whipping Boy (I Go Crazy) 3. I Want To Break Free 4. Machines (or Back To Humans) 5. Man On Fire 6. Take Another Little Piece Of My Heart (Let Me Live) 7. It's A Hard Life 8. Your Heart Again (Let Me In (Your Heart Again)) 9. Man On The Prowl 10. Radio Caca (Radio Ga Ga) 11. Hammer To Fall 12. Keep Passing The Open Windows 13. Man Made Paradise Notice that "Is This The World We Created?" is missing.