QueenZone discussion #1398754
Hammersmith '75 possible release date?
| Unniendo 14.09.2014 09:06 |
Can we see this release at Christmas 2014-2015? And what release wiil include..your opinions? |
| jondickens1 14.09.2014 10:54 |
What would be the point of Hammersmith 75 after the release of The Rainbow. It's almost the same set list. Bring on Earl's Court or Houston tho! |
| Bad Seed 14.09.2014 11:12 |
I believe Greg has said in a recent Q&A that Hammersmith, Hyde Park, Earls Court & Houston are not suitable for a stand alone release but possibly in some sort of box set compilation. Lots of '79 stuff available which is favoured for the next 70s release |
| Chief Mouse 14.09.2014 11:20 |
Bad Seed wrote: Lots of '79 stuff available which is favoured for the next 70s release Hopefully Crazy tour. |
| Doga 14.09.2014 11:54 |
Bad Seed wrote: I believe Greg has said in a recent Q&A that Hammersmith, Hyde Park, Earls Court & Houston are not suitable for a stand alone release but possibly in some sort of box set compilation. Lots of '79 stuff available which is favoured for the next 70s releaseRhys Thomas said Houston was filmed and is suitable for a Bluray release. Opposite information coming from close men of the band. |
| Negative Creep 14.09.2014 12:14 |
Bad Seed wrote: I believe Greg has said in a recent Q&A that Hammersmith, Hyde Park, Earls Court & Houston are not suitable for a stand alone release but possibly in some sort of box set compilation.Greg Brooks either has next to no influence over what is released or actively discourages the release of decent stuff. It's very easy for someone like him to make claims like that with his own personal copies of everything I feel. The idea that Earls Court isn't fit for a standalone release is absurd. The same for Hyde Park really too - it's no worse than the Milton Keynes video, which is actually marred by strange marks on one of the main camera feeds and Hot Space material! Hammersmith was set for release a few years ago.... obviously not as good as the Rainbow shows and quite short, but still worth releasing properly. That the Rainbow video has just been released and gotten great press proves all the talk of earlier material not being worth releasing is utter tosh and that this should be the first stage of finally releasing the classic 70's pro shot gigs. |
| LucasDiego 14.09.2014 12:29 |
40 years of rainbow = dvd and blu ray release 40 years of hammersmith 75 = dvd and blu ray release let's believe!! |
| pittrek 14.09.2014 12:59 |
The DVD is done, they just need to release it. Next Christmas would be the logical time |
| Bad Seed 14.09.2014 13:11 |
I honestly can't see Hammersmith '75 getting a stand alone release now. The DVD was done years ago, Brian was still putting paint on his hair on the bonus interviews. That's been scrapped for good, I'd be willing to put a lot of money on it. |
| Nitroboy 14.09.2014 13:13 |
Negative Creep wrote: The idea that Earls Court isn't fit for a standalone release is absurd. The same for Hyde Park really too - it's no worse than the Milton Keynes video, which is actually marred by strange marks on one of the main camera feeds and Hot Space material! Hammersmith was set for release a few years ago.... obviously not as good as the Rainbow shows and quite short, but still worth releasing properly. That the Rainbow video has just been released and gotten great press proves all the talk of earlier material not being worth releasing is utter tosh and that this should be the first stage of finally releasing the classic 70's pro shot gigs. What are these strange marks you talk of? |
| Bad Seed 14.09.2014 13:14 |
*had paint on his hair |
| Chief Mouse 14.09.2014 13:19 |
Nitroboy wrote:Negative Creep wrote: The idea that Earls Court isn't fit for a standalone release is absurd. The same for Hyde Park really too - it's no worse than the Milton Keynes video, which is actually marred by strange marks on one of the main camera feeds and Hot Space material! Hammersmith was set for release a few years ago.... obviously not as good as the Rainbow shows and quite short, but still worth releasing properly. That the Rainbow video has just been released and gotten great press proves all the talk of earlier material not being worth releasing is utter tosh and that this should be the first stage of finally releasing the classic 70's pro shot gigs.What are these strange marks you talk of? Probably these -  |
| Bad Seed 14.09.2014 13:22 |
And I don't get the impression that these are Greg's wishes, it's what's coming from QP. At this moment in time the 4 mentioned shows are not going to have an individual release. He has apparently said only about 6 songs from the Hyde Park show are usable. |
| cmsdrums 14.09.2014 14:36 |
Doga wrote:And I know, based on their responses to questions from fandom and the quality of their related releases so far, which I'd believe the most.Bad Seed wrote: I believe Greg has said in a recent Q&A that Hammersmith, Hyde Park, Earls Court & Houston are not suitable for a stand alone release but possibly in some sort of box set compilation. Lots of '79 stuff available which is favoured for the next 70s releaseRhys Thomas said Houston was filmed and is suitable for a Bluray release. Opposite information coming from close men of the band. |
| Holly2003 14.09.2014 15:42 |
I think those "marks" are called lens flares. |
| pestgrid 14.09.2014 16:03 |
In the meantime.........link |
| Unniendo 14.09.2014 16:25 |
Let's hope for Hammer '75 DVD/Blu-ray + CD or Box-set of 75-77 Era in the near future. Do they have nice audio records of early gigs in London 75? There will be a good stuff for several CD's in Hammy Box-set. |
| rocknrolllover 14.09.2014 22:50 |
Logical hammy'75, but possibly for QPL release Hammy'75 is too short concert. Even with CD version is too short. |
| The Real Wizard 14.09.2014 23:00 |
Negative Creep wrote: it's no worse than the Milton Keynes video, which is actually marred by strange marks on one of the main camera feeds and Hot Space material!... and the QZ post of the month goes to ........ ! Seriously, well played. |
| JackTorrance 15.09.2014 04:17 |
rocknrolllover wrote: Logical hammy'75, but possibly for QPL release Hammy'75 is too short concert. Even with CD version is too short.Hammy '75 is great but way too short: they didn't film the last two songs Seven Seas of Rhye and See What A Fool Ive Been. Plus, it is not too different from Rainbow '74. Hammy '79 would be awesome. Does someone know if they have it in full? So full video and multi-track audio? |
| Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 15.09.2014 04:27 |
The Real Wizard wrote:The real problem with EC77 is due to it's audio not the picture quality. Though it was filmed with only 2 camera's from the video feed , they don;t have the seperate camera angels. Sometimes the camera's film out of focus, or go black for a few seconds.Negative Creep wrote: it's no worse than the Milton Keynes video, which is actually marred by strange marks on one of the main camera feeds and Hot Space material!... and the QZ post of the month goes to ........ ! Seriously, well played. |
| Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 15.09.2014 04:28 |
Doga wrote:Hmmm they have the extra shots from Harris. But what they don;t have is the audio multitrack.Bad Seed wrote: I believe Greg has said in a recent Q&A that Hammersmith, Hyde Park, Earls Court & Houston are not suitable for a stand alone release but possibly in some sort of box set compilation. Lots of '79 stuff available which is favoured for the next 70s releaseRhys Thomas said Houston was filmed and is suitable for a Bluray release. Opposite information coming from close men of the band. |
| angermair73 15.09.2014 06:56 |
Well. They could include the Golders Green from 1973 :-) Just to give some more. And then at last the Hyde Park show also in the same boxset. Offcourse it would be a big surprise if they could find the recording of the Marquee 1972 :-) Then for the Next release we could have the later 70's stuff like Houston and Crazy Tour. That would be great. |
| fr1986 15.09.2014 09:32 |
Hammersmith boxset would be nice. They should think it over, after the good response they've got with Rainbow. If the 75' concert is too short they could release a 2 dvd set including Hammersmith 75' and Hammersmith 79' and, since i heard couple of times they dont have the mutitrack of hammy 79' they could at least release it as a bonus dvd but also include a cd With Hammy 75'. That would sell quite well, and would be very well welcomed by fans, since you have classic songs from Queen's early days on Hammy 75', and you have several well known hits on Hammy 79', |
| gerry 15.09.2014 11:44 |
Queen's crazy tour 79 was a great tour as i was there and it would be nice if certain songs were included at different venues like "Save me" from newcastle city hall etc....... i also support fans who want hyde park 76 released because with technology today someone must be able to make a decent release of this show right? i am very pleased with the Rainbow release and have a hunger for more 70s Queen! |
| cmsdrums 15.09.2014 12:42 |
JackTorrance wrote:I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed that they have the video masters but not the audio multitracks. Why the hell they couldn't just release a nice mix from the existing stereo audio they do have, I don't know (well, I do - they can't overdub anything that Brian or his audio team consider 'not up to scratch' easily....)rocknrolllover wrote: Logical hammy'75, but possibly for QPL release Hammy'75 is too short concert. Even with CD version is too short.Hammy '75 is great but way too short: they didn't film the last two songs Seven Seas of Rhye and See What A Fool Ive Been. Plus, it is not too different from Rainbow '74. Hammy '79 would be awesome. Does someone know if they have it in full? So full video and multi-track audio? |
| Unniendo 15.09.2014 13:52 |
I would like to observe the chronology, and want to see as next release Hammersmith '75. Then it would be great to see Hyde Park, Earls Court and Houston. I don't want to miss a few years and see as release Hammer '79 - it's a great show, but 3 previous concert is important for me at the moment. Of course we can not influence the decision of QPL, but must make it clear that we want to see all Queen concerts recorded on video, desirable chronologically from 75 and further. I will be insanely happy and would pay any price if they wil release Box-Set with Hammer, Hyde Park, Earls Court and Houston - the main era of 70s would be disclosed, except Crazy Tour 1979 which can be release separately. |
| alberbal12 15.09.2014 14:08 |
My opinion is: 2015 - Hammersmith 1975 + Hammersmith 1979. 2016 - Hyde Park 1976 (first) and Knebworth 1986 (last). 2017 - Houston 1977. As i know by a friend, Earls Court could not be released easily because BBC have the rights. |
| Oscar J 15.09.2014 15:05 |
I'd like Hyde Park the most, because it's in such bad quality today. The other gigs are already out there and sounding decent. |
| fr1986 15.09.2014 16:17 |
alberbal12 wrote: My opinion is: 2015 - Hammersmith 1975 + Hammersmith 1979. 2016 - Hyde Park 1976 (first) and Knebworth 1986 (last). 2017 - Houston 1977. As i know by a friend, Earls Court could not be released easily because BBC have the rights.That would be great indeed! Hope QPL take in to account what we say here |
| Penetration_Guru 15.09.2014 16:50 |
Hyde Park (first) ....first what? |
| Kevinrm15 15.09.2014 17:46 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: Hyde Park (first) ....first what?I'm going out on a limb here... but I think he means the first thing Queen releases in 2016. |
| AlexRocks 15.09.2014 21:25 |
As long as the Hammy box set has the 2012 show.... |
| Penetration_Guru 16.09.2014 13:55 |
Kevinrm15 wrote:Wouldn't Knebworth be either (second) or (next) then?Penetration_Guru wrote: Hyde Park (first) ....first what?I'm going out on a limb here... but I think he means the first thing Queen releases in 2016. |
| alberbal12 16.09.2014 15:14 |
Is an unknown order... Is only my opinion, because i hope it comes true. |
| Penetration_Guru 16.09.2014 17:02 |
Well, that clears it up |
| moonie 17.09.2014 06:25 |
alberbal12 wrote: My opinion is: 2015 - Hammersmith 1975 + Hammersmith 1979. 2016 - Hyde Park 1976 (first) and Knebworth 1986 (last). 2017 - Houston 1977. As i know by a friend, Earls Court could not be released easily because BBC have the rights.This is news to me about The Beeb having rights to Earls Court.. It's not like they filmed the gigs. Both nights videos are just screen feeds as far as I'm aware.. I don't think any footage from Earls Court ever appeared on the BBC, except as part of documentaries.. Where did you hear this? Not having a go, just interested.. |
| moonie 17.09.2014 06:34 |
There are better VHS sources out there somewhere for the first night at Earls Court.. Although they might be a bit degraded by now.. I remember borrowing a vhs tape from an old mate (Who I later lost contact with) in about 1992 and it looked to me to be about a first gen copy. The colours were spot on and the picture was much sharper than the best dvd version including the Sniville 2 disk remaster. More natural.. I didn't have the means to copy it unfortunately.. He bought it at one of the conventions along with Hyde Park, which wasn't as good as the QTV version we all have now, but didn't have the QTV watermark obviously. So The tapes are probably out there buried away in peoples lofts etc.. I don't think we'll see an official release of Earls Court unfortunately as the edits are just what was done on the night and fed to the screens.. Not really up to par for an official release.. I think we might see at least some of Hyde Park eventually as they do seem to still have parts of it in usable quality.. |
| gerry 17.09.2014 08:28 |
i am surprised someone said we can not have "Earls Court" as "The BBC" own the copyrights. If that is the case how come it has never been aired on TV? To be honest i think Queen productions are pretty stingy as to what can and cannot get released, after all " The Beatles" fans get treated left right and centre with box sets and cds and un-released material and its been going on for years and years! Freddie has been gone for 23 years and Queen fans have just got there first 70s Queen show on DVD, how slow and humiliating is that fo us Queenies, and to make matters worse its a concert which is 40 years old! We are such a patient, loyal bunch are we not, and i am sure other fans of different artists would not be so patient as we lot are! Queen were a brilliant 4 some Rock group, but its a pity the people who decide what is getting released are slow and dithering as to what comes next? |
| on my way up 17.09.2014 09:32 |
Shows I'd like to have in full and in professional audio quality (of course whatever footage they have should also be included): - Hammersmith 24-12-1975 - Hyde Park 18-09-1976 (if not possible, then that's a pity!) - Earls Court 07-06-1977 - Hammersmith Odeo 26-12-1979 - Rio 12-01-1985 - Knebworth 09-08-1986 And if they can surprise us with some unknown audio only concerts, then that'd be even better!!They seem to have lots and lots of 1979 stuff and here's hoping for more unheard Crazy tour stuff from Brian's archive... |
| people on streets 18.09.2014 17:20 |
Don't forget Houston 77 + the South American dates. |
| Doga 18.09.2014 17:49 |
people on streets wrote: Don't forget Houston 77 + the South American dates.Nah, Montreal > South America. I think Queen II, Sheer Heart Attack, The Game, Hot Space and A Kind of Magic are documented very well live with the best possible release of each tour, considering of what they recorded (Rainbow, Montreal, MK Bowl and Budapest). What would be reaaaaaally nice is if along with the Bluray of Hammy 75 they included the audio of Boston 76, like they just did with the March show. Considering Hammy is a short gig, having a full gig from the ANATO tour will be a blast. Anydoby knows if they have the multitracks of Boston 76? |
| Oscar J 18.09.2014 18:09 |
Why would they have Boston? From what I know, there's only a great sounding bootleg out there. |
| Hangman_96 02.10.2014 04:47 |
I think Hammy '75 might be released next year to commemorate its 40th anniversary. If no, then I don't understand the overall logic which begins with the release of Rainbow this year. They could release each properly filmed concert from now on to commemorate its 40th anniversary. |
| tomchristie22 02.10.2014 08:41 |
Lostman wrote: I think Hammy '75 might be released next year to commemorate its 40th anniversary. If no, then I don't understand the overall logic which begins with the release of Rainbow this year.It's probably their logic in releasing the Rainbow this year, but that doesn't mean there's gonna be a trend of it, considering they've only done it for one show. Still, it'll be pretty fantastic if that is their plan |
| Sue Dounim 03.10.2014 18:00 |
Hammersmith '75 would be nice, but if it turned out that 1975/05/01 was completely filmed and multitracked, I would definitely rather have that. Also, it's nice to be a part of a fandom that can even look forward to potential new official live releases. I collect Led Zeppelin and Nirvana stuff as well and as far as new live material coming out it's pretty bleak. |
| Rick 04.10.2014 03:10 |
Hammy 1975 would be a logical decision, but I wouldn't be too interested, though. One of the their most boring concerts ever. |
| Doga 04.10.2014 06:20 |
Sue Dounim wrote: Hammersmith '75 would be nice, but if it turned out that 1975/05/01 was completely filmed and multitracked, I would definitely rather have that.Have you seen this clip? link At least Now I'm Here, Killer Queen and In the Lap of the Gods were filmed with a few cameras. I don't know if QP have the full recording or the multitracks. For all the fuss people do with Knebworth i think Budokan 75 is much better gig. But is unlikely QP will release it even if they have all the material in their vaults. This year the superb Rainbow show was released and is from the same tour. Also, it's nice to be a part of a fandom that can even look forward to potential new official live releases. I collect Led Zeppelin and Nirvana stuff as well and as far as new live material coming out it's pretty bleak.Yeah, i agree, Queen have a lot of stuff in their archives, much more than other big bands from the 70s, 80s and even 90s. |
| pittrek 04.10.2014 08:20 |
Not quite true, Doga. On the last show they filmed AT LEAST these songs : Procession Now I'm Here some piano song - either Doing Alright or White Queen (*) In The Lap Of The Gods (*) Killer Queen Son And Daughter Band introduction / intro speech before Keep Yourself Alive Keep Yourself Alive Stone Cold Crazy Liar In The Lap Of The Gods ...revisited (*) - these can actually be from a different Japan 75 show, I couldn't sync the bits properly to the audience audio from 1st May |
| Doga 04.10.2014 08:31 |
Any correction is welcome, of course. Any news about the multitracks? |
| pittrek 04.10.2014 08:38 |
No idea unfortunately. PS Silent clips of the songs mentioned in my previous post were shown on the 2011 exhibition but the audio was the album version of Black Queen |
| tomchristie22 04.10.2014 08:59 |
Rick wrote: Hammy 1975 would be a logical decision, but I wouldn't be too interested, though. One of the their most boring concerts ever.It would be pretty redundant - they sound much better on the Rainbow, which also has a much longer setlist. The only new thing Hammersmith has is the addition of Bo Rhap instead of In the Lap of the Gods and the first half of Brighton Rock instead of the first half of Son and Daughter. Houston 77 would be perfect, in my opinion - it's a completely distinct period which hasn't been given any release yet. Certainly my favourite setlist they ever toured with. And of course, dat leotard. |
| cmsdrums 04.10.2014 13:25 |
tomchristie22 wrote:Agreed; we now have early 70s with Rainbow release, and late 70s with Live Killers; something in between where the big hits such as WWRY/Champions came in, but still a lot of early stuff such was present along with some classic ADATR tracks, would be most welcome.Rick wrote: Hammy 1975 would be a logical decision, but I wouldn't be too interested, though. One of the their most boring concerts ever.Houston 77 would be perfect, in my opinion - it's a completely distinct period which hasn't been given any release yet. Certainly my favourite setlist they ever toured with. And of course, dat leotard. |
| Rick 07.10.2014 14:23 |
tomchristie22 wrote:Houston 77 with a proper mix would be great, I agree!Rick wrote: Hammy 1975 would be a logical decision, but I wouldn't be too interested, though. One of the their most boring concerts ever.It would be pretty redundant - they sound much better on the Rainbow, which also has a much longer setlist. The only new thing Hammersmith has is the addition of Bo Rhap instead of In the Lap of the Gods and the first half of Brighton Rock instead of the first half of Son and Daughter. Houston 77 would be perfect, in my opinion - it's a completely distinct period which hasn't been given any release yet. Certainly my favourite setlist they ever toured with. And of course, dat leotard. |