| goose44 11.09.2014 08:37 |
number 8 debut in the UK top 100 for a live record? Sounds pretty impressive to me. |
| Oscar J 11.09.2014 12:09 |
The only source I can find for that is Queen's Facebook page. |
| goose44 11.09.2014 12:29 |
Officialcharts.com has the list which will be official on Sunday. Robert Plant is number 1, Queen are number 8 |
| people on streets 11.09.2014 13:23 |
goose44 wrote: number 8 debut in the UK top 100 for a live record? Sounds pretty impressive to me.Not that impressive if you look at the record sales these days. |
| Doga 11.09.2014 14:12 |
Nowdays sales are poor for everybody. Chart in 8th for a live album is a good sign, even better considering that album was recorded 40 years ago. |
| people on streets 11.09.2014 15:12 |
Say what you want. I'm not impressed by charts at all these days. The music industry is dead as far as album sales are concerned. Touring is were the money has to be made... |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 11.09.2014 16:18 |
Not impressive... Remember Exile on main streets reedition was number1, so... Better than other live realeases this years, no more. |
| FlorianS 12.09.2014 02:45 |
Hopefully the sales are good enough for QP to go on with releasing more live CDs & DVDs. |
| k-m 12.09.2014 07:14 |
This is very impressive indeed. Do you remember at which positions Queen's other live releases from RECENT years charted? I think it was No. 20 for "On Fire", No. 20 for "Montreal", not even sure about Wembley re-edition or "Return of the Champions". No. 8 on albums chart for a relatively low-key, fans mainly live release is very, very good. I can only suspect the DVD will do even better. |
| The Fairy King 12.09.2014 07:20 |
We'll probably get Hammersmith next year, as it will mark the 40th anniversary of that concert. :) |
| fr1986 12.09.2014 07:31 |
The Fairy King wrote: We'll probably get Hammersmith next year, as it will mark the 40th anniversary of that concert. :)If everyhing goes as your logic suggests(Which i hope!), next year they will release Hammersmith 75', then in 2016 Knebworth 86', then in 2017 Houston 77'. Those would be great releases. I was thinking that next year they were going to release a Q+AL Blu ray. I hope that does not happen, or if it does happen, i hope Rhys works on a queen Live concert release aside any Q+AL release. |
| Pingfah 12.09.2014 08:10 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Not impressive... Remember Exile on main streets reedition was number1, so... Better than other live realeases this years, no more.Exile was a re-release of a massive selling studio LP, Rainbow is a live release from a band with a LOT of live releases. Not really comparable. Fact is, this is the most successful Queen release for a long time, entering only a few places below where Cosmos Rocks did, and way above where Bowl, Montreal, or Hungarian did. Queen have never even HAD a number one live album in their whole career.. |
| brENsKi 12.09.2014 10:15 |
Pingfah wrote: Fact is, this is the most successful Queen release for a long time, entering only a few places below where Cosmos Rocks did,that's no basis of argument - CR is no benchmark for ANY kind of comparison. Secondly. sales figures will be what measures the success - not it's initial chart position. fr1986 wrote:no. on the above basis - Knebworth (if it exists) will be released in 2026The Fairy King wrote:We'll probably get Hammersmith next year, as it will mark the 40th anniversary of that concert. :)If everyhing goes as your logic suggests(Which i hope!), next year they will release Hammersmith 75', then in 2016 Knebworth 86', then in 2017 Houston 77'. |
| dave76 12.09.2014 10:34 |
The album debuted at #7 here in the Netherlands. The DVD at number 1! |
| Pingfah 12.09.2014 10:52 |
brENsKi wrote:Of course, but I was reacting to him saying he isn't impressed with the chart position. Well the chart position is fucking good compared to where Queen have been charting with pretty much anything from the last 10 years, and is more in line with releases from their heyday, than current releases.Pingfah wrote: Fact is, this is the most successful Queen release for a long time, entering only a few places below where Cosmos Rocks did,that's no basis of argument - CR is no benchmark for ANY kind of comparison. Secondly. sales figures will be what measures the success - not it's initial chart position. |
| tero! 48531 12.09.2014 11:18 |
Pingfah wrote: Well the chart position is fucking good compared to where Queen have been charting with pretty much anything from the last 10 years, and is more in line with releases from their heyday, than current releases.The position might be good, but it doesn't say anything about the sales numbers. These days you get to number 8 if all the fans (a few thousands people) buy the album on the first week, whereas the same amount of sales would have gotten you to number 38 back in 70's. It's all relative, and you can choose to see it as positively as you like... |
| malicedoom 12.09.2014 11:21 |
Robert Plant blows raw monkey. (sorry, just felt the need to share that with all of you...) |
| k-m 12.09.2014 13:30 |
Guys, I think some of you don't get it, sorry :-) Of course, sales are nowhere near as good compared to Queen's heyday, but chart positions STILL matter. I bet Robert Plant didn't sell as many records as, e.g. Noel Gallagher did in his first week, but it still doesn't matter. Sales are bad for EVERYONE nowadays and I do think "Rainbow's" initial position is a fantastic sign indeed. It means that people actually do want something else than rehashed versions of Magic shows. And it means Queen is actually quite big these days, because it's still a low-key release, absent of many well-known hits like BoRhap or Radio or Thing Called Love. I hope the band will get the message and release more interesting stuff. |
| The Real Wizard 12.09.2014 15:02 |
malicedoom wrote: Robert Plant blows raw monkey.Care to substantiate that with some kind of semi-intelligent commentary on his diverse work of the past two decades? |
| The Real Wizard 12.09.2014 15:05 |
As for the chart position - this is excellent news. To dismiss this because of the general decline of physical record sales demonstrates a lack of basic understanding of mathematics, since chart positions are still a matter of relativity to all other record sales, however many or few there are overall. |
| brENsKi 12.09.2014 17:07 |
The Real Wizard wrote: As for the chart position - this is excellent news. To dismiss this because of the general decline of physical record sales demonstrates a lack of basic understanding of mathematics, since chart positions are still a matter of relativity to all other record sales, however many or few there are overall.i stand by my comment: "CR is no benchmark for ANY kind of comparison. Secondly. sales figures will be what measures the success - not it's initial chart position." as a whole - that statement is accurate. TCR is NO comparator and sales ARE what counts. But let's go with TCR as a comparator: no8 vs no9 first week chart position says nothing. the respective sales of each are what would bear the argument out. for example TCR no9 could have outsold Rainbow no8 by 2 to1...or on the other hand Rainbow no8 could have outsold TCR no9 by 5 to 1 - without the sales figures we don't know...so it's a meaningless comparison to make |
| EDWOOD 12.09.2014 20:01 |
I think what you also have to bear in mind is that there are multiple versions of the concert/s being released. There is the 1 disc and 2 disc CD versions - now I'm not sure if this album chart position is taking into account sales of both albums? I'm sure most fans will pay the little extra to get the 2 CD version anyway as it's only a couple of quid/dollars extra. Then there is the DVD and the blu-Ray releases. In Germany I think music video sales are put together with album sales when album charts are compiled - in the UK, US and probably every other country they will be included in the music video charts. Then of course there is the comprehensive boxset package. This will probably sell well to collectors and (if it does chart) will show up somewhere in the album charts - I think the Freddie 10CD boxset did chart somewhere in the top 200 album chart in the UK in 2000. Charts matter of course but as some have said sales matter more and revenue even moreso. With all these different products QP should see healthy revenue even if sales are only 'OK'. Costs for producing a live album will, of course, be less then doing a full studio album but looking at the presentation of the CDs, boxsets, etc I'm glad to see QP have gone to quite a lot of expense to ensure the product is good. Remastering the sound and all the technical stuff will have cost QP as well but with this selling well in countries throughout the world they'll see a nice profit. I'm sure though, this is more aimed at the long-term fans with QP hoping it might entice a few casuals as well. 'Queen Forever' will be the big money release though - I'm sure a lot more money will be spent on this - more on the marketing and promotion side - their record company will definately expect it to sell well to Joe Public. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 13.09.2014 06:20 |
Beingin the top ten is not impressive this years, for the poor sales...Mars volta were 8 in usa with some record, and they seld the first week like 25.000 copies. Only being one, and sometimes even being 1 is not too much copies |
| k-m 14.09.2014 16:08 |
Just had a look at official charts and it seems Queen missed out on the Top Ten, landing at no. 11 eventually. What a shame!! |
| LucasDiego 14.09.2014 18:08 |
For a live album of very few songgs that everybody meets, 11 is a good position! |
| Vali 15.09.2014 04:29 |
well, given how the music charts work these days, I consider num. 8 is EXCELLENT for a '74 gig, with long-hair / no moustache Freddie, no WWRY/WATC, no AOBTT, no RGG nor IWTBF, etc etc. Besides, Robert Plant nailed it with his new record. I absolutely love it. |
| Pingfah 15.09.2014 05:55 |
tero! 48531 wrote:I believe I already acknowledged that, and put my comment in context.Pingfah wrote: Well the chart position is fucking good compared to where Queen have been charting with pretty much anything from the last 10 years, and is more in line with releases from their heyday, than current releases.The position might be good, but it doesn't say anything about the sales numbers. |
| queenside 16.09.2014 08:35 |
does anybody know how come there is no rainbow at uk music dvd chart? i find that very strange. |
| brENsKi 16.09.2014 08:44 |
queenside wrote: does anybody know how come there is no rainbow at uk music dvd chart? i find that very strange.not if it either a) didn't sell enough, or b) wasn't released in time to generate enough sales, or c) is classified in such a way as it doesn't qualify - is it a DVD only release? |
| Mr. Bed Guy 17.09.2014 10:19 |
1.) Rainbow isn't position 8 in UK charts, it's only 11 2.) 7 in Holland, 9 in Germany |
| queenside 17.09.2014 12:30 |
brENsKi wrote:probably b or c. does anything you buy on uk online stores (like amazon, play...) counts in the official dvd or album chart?queenside wrote: does anybody know how come there is no rainbow at uk music dvd chart? i find that very strange.not if it either a) didn't sell enough, or b) wasn't released in time to generate enough sales, or c) is classified in such a way as it doesn't qualify - is it a DVD only release? |
| musicland munich 17.09.2014 22:49 |
The Chart positions for the DVD in Germany ( There is a Top 30 in Germany for Music DVD's) first week No. 18 ( pre order sales I guess) second week at No. 5 and this week at No. 2.... |
| LucasDiego 18.09.2014 09:39 |
Rainbow charts 66 on billboard 200 and 24 at top rock charts!! link link link ... rainbow-74 |
| queenside 18.09.2014 13:52 |
musicland munich wrote: The Chart positions for the DVD in Germany ( There is a Top 30 in Germany for Music DVD's) first week No. 18 ( pre order sales I guess) second week at No. 5 and this week at No. 2....it's already 3 weeks out in germany? do you have any links for german music dvd chart? |
| musicland munich 18.09.2014 17:55 |
Here is the link Sir. Keep in mind that the charts will be updated soon. link remember it had a chart position right on the 5 th of September because of the pre order sales ! second week at No.5 and now it's the No.2 spot... |
| Nitroboy 18.09.2014 18:06 |
The DVD/Blu-Ray debuts at no. 8 in Denmark, where Hungarian Rhapsody debuted at no. 6 and in it's 2nd week fell to no. 8 before falling out of the top 10 in its 3rd week. |
| musicland munich 19.09.2014 13:33 |
ta....now back at No.5 ( Music DVD Charts) |
| queenside 20.09.2014 10:57 |
thanks for the link. i hope it will sell well cos we need and deserve more fantastic 70's releases like this. even more after all the greatest hits compilations. |
| Lesheq 25.09.2014 05:12 |
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| Lesheq 25.09.2014 05:15 |
Live at Rainbow 74 debuted at number ... 2 in US Billboard Music Video Sales. link |
| k-m 25.09.2014 10:03 |
Lesheq wrote: Live at Rainbow 74 debuted at number ... 2 in US Billboard Music Video Sales. linkWell, that's a bit of a resurrection. A result of the recent tour, maybe? I don't know why the hell it hasn't charted on UK music video charts yet. Very strange. |
| Nitroboy 27.09.2014 14:19 |
Nitroboy wrote: The DVD/Blu-Ray debuts at no. 8 in Denmark, where Hungarian Rhapsody debuted at no. 6 and in it's 2nd week fell to no. 8 before falling out of the top 10 in its 3rd week. Rainbow DVD/Blu-Ray has risen to #7 now. CD never charted in the top 40 |
| musicland munich 27.09.2014 17:15 |
^Thanks for the reminder... ....same here( Germany) DVD/Blue-Ray has risen from No.5...to No. 4 this week. link |