Everybody's praising the recent release, but isn't that just a cleaned-up rehash? I'm sure there's decent-quality bootlegs of the full thing floating around, AND moreso to the point, I was of the opinion that the show is in its entirety in the Box of Trix. Or was the Box of Trix version edited down?
br5946 wrote:AND moreso to the point, I was of the opinion that the show is in its entirety in the Box of Trix. Or was the Box of Trix version edited down?
More 70's Queen is always good news. And remember, even if we heard a part of the release, we heard even more of the others live releases:
Wembley: Broadcasted in '86
Milton Kaynes: Broadcasted in '82
Rock Montreal: Edited since '81
Budapest: Edited since '86
Basically if Queen production release something video related we already heard or watch the whole thing or a great part of it. But lately QP is putting great effort in their live products, the quality of the audio of Montreal, Budapest and this Rainbow is superb. So i don't mind.
br5946 wrote:
Everybody's praising the recent release, but isn't that just a cleaned-up rehash? I'm sure there's decent-quality bootlegs of the full thing floating around, AND moreso to the point, I was of the opinion that the show is in its entirety in the Box of Trix. Or was the Box of Trix version edited down?
Yes it's cleaned up, not sure how an archive release could avoid being a rehash. It sounds better than the bootlegs, none of which are as full. Box of Trix version was 57 minutes, this is 90.
br5946 wrote:
Everybody's praising the recent release, but isn't that just a cleaned-up rehash? I'm sure there's decent-quality bootlegs of the full thing floating around, AND moreso to the point, I was of the opinion that the show is in its entirety in the Box of Trix. Or was the Box of Trix version edited down?
Are you kidding us? Of course the Box of Trix version is edited!! Not counting it was a Mono vhs, it features the next set list: Procession, Now I'm Here, Ogre Battle, White Queen, In The Lap Of The Gods, Killer Queen, The March Of The Black Queen, Bring Back That Leroy Brown, Son And Daughter, guitar solo, Father To Son [cut], Keep Yourself Alive [heavy cut], Liar [cut], Son And Daughter (reprise), Stone Cold Crazy, In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited, Jailhouse Rock [cut], God Save The Queen
To opposite, the NEW version, is stereo, great video quality, new mix, and features the next setlist:
Procession, Now I'm Here, Ogre Battle, Father To Son, White Queen, Flick Of The Wrist, In The Lap Of The Gods, Killer Queen, The March Of The Black Queen, Bring Back That Leroy Brown, Son And Daughter, Keep Yourself Alive, Seven Seas Of Rhye, Stone Cold Crazy, Liar, In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited, Big Spender, Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll, Jailhouse Rock, God Save The Queen
Plus we'll have the -almost- full March gig on CD, and two songs (Modern times rock and roll and Son and daughter) in video.
br5946 wrote:
Everybody's praising the recent release, but isn't that just a cleaned-up rehash? I'm sure there's decent-quality bootlegs of the full thing floating around, AND moreso to the point, I was of the opinion that the show is in its entirety in the Box of Trix. Or was the Box of Trix version edited down?
Not only is this the same time the virtually complete Rainbow shows are being released, but this is the very first time any such 70s shows are being released. This is pretty monumental.
If you'd like to point us to another live version of Flick of the Wrist that sounds this good, I'm all ears.
Re: ALMOST full March gig on CD...
I dug up Pittrek's version of March 31st '74 show from my HD, and took a look at the booklet, wherein it is written:
"The interesting thing is that old Queen expert John S. Stuart wrote on Queenzone.com forum that a complete 2LP set does exist, it's framed in Barry Sheffield's office and the tracklist is:
Procession, Father To Son, Ogre Battle, White Queen, Great King Rat, HANGMAN, Doing Alright, Son And Daughter, Keep Yourself Alive....." etc.
So I'm kind of baffled as to why Hangman is mentioned at all there, if the concerts are supposed to be complete aside from the missing two cover songs from the March show.
I wouldn't be all that much surprised if Hangman actually WAS part of the set, and is included in the original 2LP set, but QP decided to delete the track from memory, because
as far as they're concerned, the song doesn't exist. At least in a commercially usable form. Perhaps, if they had gotten their hands on the assumed acetate that only one person
has claimed to own so far, they would have released the studio version on the earlier remasters' bonus discs, and now we might have an official live version of it as well...
Then again, maybe Hangman didn't exist there on the March 31st set at all.
If anyone already own the box set, there are photos of the tape boxes with track listings on the back inside the hard cover book.
Is there any mention of 'hangman','big spender' and 'bama lama bama loo' in the trackilst of the tapebox for march 1974 show?
cmi wrote:
If anyone already own the box set, there are photos of the tape boxes with track listings on the back inside the hard cover book.
Is there any mention of 'hangman','big spender' and 'bama lama bama loo' in the trackilst of the tapebox for march 1974 show?
Without wanting to sound like a conspiracy theorist, it wouldn't be that hard for QPL to 'Photoshop' the mention of 'Hangman' out of the track listing pics if they saw fit to!!
I wonder what happened to that acetate 2LP then??
I had to log in as soon as I read this thread.
When I heard about the Rainbow release, i thought the same thing "ok, nothing we haven't seen or heard before" but, much to my surprise, I hear different vocals than on the overdubbed version we all know and love.
Can anyone confirm this? my only reference is a youtube clip and the official trailer. If it's the original vocal track, it'll be like listening for the first time!
-Sorry if I seem to come out of nowhere. Been a QZ follower since the early 00's (first as lankestermerrin) but I rarely login since I mostly come here to catch up on the latest news. Cheers, everybody.
It is like listening to it for the first time to me. At some places the vocals are totally different from the old version, at some places it's not. The audio is just so much better - that itself makes buying the CD worth it.