QueenZone discussion #1396520

Jefffabiano wrote: Well lets say they have it (evidence says they do) qp would not want them blabbing about it because qp controls releases not DoRo . But don't worry we shouldn't rule out an audio release. But what the hell lets try!

Jefffabiano wrote: Houston earls court box set anyone?

pittrek wrote: The have filmed AT LEAST - footage of the stage being built and the grass being prepared for the audience - various audience members getting to the venue - audience members eating and relaxing - Status Quo - Rockin' All Over The World - Queen getting to helicopters - helicopter flights - Queen getting out of the helicopters - Freddie preparing his voice in his dressing room (usually edited into Wembley documentaries, god knows why) - band going to the stage - Is This The World We Created - Tutti Frutti - Bohemian Rhapsody - Hammer To Fall - Radio Ga Ga - We Are The Champions - God Save The Queen

pittrek wrote: The have filmed AT LEAST - footage of the stage being built and the grass being prepared for the audience - various audience members getting to the venue - audience members eating and relaxing - Status Quo - Rockin' All Over The World - Queen getting to helicopters - helicopter flights - Queen getting out of the helicopters - Freddie preparing his voice in his dressing room (usually edited into Wembley documentaries, god knows why) - band going to the stage - Is This The World We Created - Tutti Frutti - Bohemian Rhapsody - Hammer To Fall - Radio Ga Ga - We Are The Champions - God Save The Queen

Nitroboy wrote:

Jefffabiano wrote: Houston earls court box set anyone?

Why do people keep suggesting this? Two very different tours and setlists. This new Rainbow release works because the venue is the same, plus the setlists are quite similar.

guild93 wrote: God Save the Queen (same camera as the screen feed) is seen on Rare Live.

Doga wrote: link link No. The DoRos had, if i'm not mistaken, two cameras during the end of the gig, one far from the stage (the one that filmed sea of hands during Radio Ga Ga) and the other, very close to another camera in the John's side. You had mistaken that camera with the screen feed.

emrabt wrote: I worked it out once as (i think) 6 screen cameras.

P-Tr extinction event wrote: no its not . the 2 cameramen were at the same spot , they zoomed differently and slightly different angle was used. also doro is 16mm film camera, while the video feed is video camera.

Jake12 wrote: This is WTWC from Knebworth that I posted today and it looks like their are just 2 cameras used link

jacksonmerc wrote: Even if there was a copy will there be quality issues? Only a few camera angles won't stand up to the likes of Wembley or Budapest.... would the non queen fan be that interested in buying when they can get a quality Wembley concert? Don't hold your breath

P-Tr extinction event wrote: no its not . the 2 cameramen were at the same spot , they zoomed differently and slightly different angle was used. also doro is 16mm film camera, while the video feed is video camera.

guild93 wrote:

P-Tr extinction event wrote: no its not . the 2 cameramen were at the same spot , they zoomed differently and slightly different angle was used. also doro is 16mm film camera, while the video feed is video camera.

I really doubt there is enough room on that platform for 2 cameras and 2 people

Jefffabiano wrote: Well who in the general public would want the rainbow

Jefffabiano wrote: Well who in the general public would want the rainbow

pittrek wrote: Guys what makes you think they recorded the feed which was shown on the big screen? If they did, why would they use the bootleg video for the 2011 documentary?

fr1986 wrote:

pittrek wrote: Guys what makes you think they recorded the feed which was shown on the big screen? If they did, why would they use the bootleg video for the 2011 documentary?

A statement from Brian back when live aid DVD was coming out and also the same statement made by Greg a few years ago sayng "footage of the big screen exists". They did not use it in the 2011 documentary because they did not remaster it, as they did not use any remastered footage from Budapest either.

pittrek wrote: Guys what makes you think they recorded the feed which was shown on the big screen? If they did, why would they use the bootleg video for the 2011 documentary?

miraclesteinway wrote: Also I don't think many people though it would be the last ever concert with Freddie. I'm not sure even Freddie really thought that at that stage.

Mercuryman12 wrote:

pittrek wrote: Guys what makes you think they recorded the feed which was shown on the big screen? If they did, why would they use the bootleg video for the 2011 documentary?

When did they use the bootleg footage? At what point

fr1986 wrote: that is correct, it was released on the "a magic year" mini documentary in 2012. They used the already hundreds of times scenes used for the magic years documentary, bits of radio gaga, world we created and also radio gaga from the bootleg, and a bit of one vision from tv news. All the same footage, they did not bother to add something new. Instead they prefered to use what was handy.

pittrek wrote: Guys what makes you think they recorded the feed which was shown on the big screen? If they did, why would they use the bootleg video for the 2011 documentary?

Negative Creep wrote: Of course the fucking video feed was recorded. Major rock band play huge outdoor gig, and all parties involved forget to record the video feed. Sure. People says "oh, they didn't know it would be Freddie's last gig" etc etc - irrelevant and missing the point.... it was a major concert by a major band, No one would have been stupid enough to have not recorded what was being filmed - that would have probably part of the agreement to begin with. Queen were not an amateur outfit and all parties involved would have known how huge a deal the gig was.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Negative Creep wrote: Of course the fucking video feed was recorded. Major rock band play huge outdoor gig, and all parties involved forget to record the video feed. Sure. People says "oh, they didn't know it would be Freddie's last gig" etc etc - irrelevant and missing the point.... it was a major concert by a major band, No one would have been stupid enough to have not recorded what was being filmed - that would have probably part of the agreement to begin with. Queen were not an amateur outfit and all parties involved would have known how huge a deal the gig was.

In 2006 Brian stated outright that nobody pressed record. But then a year or so later Greg Brooks said they did. You'd be surprised how many big shows didn't get recorded by bands. Certainly in the 70s. Back then things were only filmed if there was a reason. Crews were expensive, and bands didn't want to cough up the coin. Thus it's amazing that pro videos of Hyde Park 76 and Paris 79 exist at all. By comparison there is zero pro film of Pink Floyd from 1973-77 - their entire classic era. By the 80s this mentality started to change. And when the Knebworth footage turns up, we'll know that Queen jumped on board.

on my way up wrote: link The things Greg Brooks said in that topic are intriguing. He says to expect the unexpected, to read between the lines, even to consider the fact we might be missinformed... All this suggests we're not being told the entire truth. Let's not forget they kept the fact they had a live recording of FFMS also under wraps. And they have a tendency to sell stuff from their archives as "recently rediscovered". Imo something you have but haven't looked at in ages is not a new discovery :-) We'll know what they have when they rerelease Knebworth ;-) (rerelease yes ;-) ) I wonder whether the Rainbow rerelease include the entire March 38 minutes. I certainly do hope so! I'm just hoping the Queen archives are as full of wonderful things as they have always told us... And that they start releasing them! Rainbow was a good first, now see what follows!

Doga wrote: Half of the show is already released in audio.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Doga wrote: Half of the show is already released in audio.

And the rest of the audio definitely exists. There's a picture of several tape boxes somewhere. There's no way that they multi-tracked only some of the show.

Doga wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Doga wrote: Half of the show is already released in audio.

And the rest of the audio definitely exists. There's a picture of several tape boxes somewhere. There's no way that they multi-tracked only some of the show.

Of course it exists. Wasn't Greg Brooks who said here that all the Magic shows during the UK Tour were multitracked?

Mr.QueenFan wrote:

Doga wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: Why do we go around in circles here? When we engange in a serious discussion, at least we try to read every reply do prevent people from repeating themselves. Read my reply on page 3 of this thread and it will answer your questions about Greg stating that the video screen was recorded (a fan has a video of him saying so), and Justin Shirley-Smith admiting that the complete multi-tracks do exist in the archive. !)

The use of "admitting" about the multi tracks is a bit misleading; that makes it sound like it had been denied for years but then being found out.
However, the audio existing is absolutely no secret, has been talked about officially many times, and obviously we already have heard a fair amount on 'Live Magic'!
They may have 'stated', or even 'reminded us' that the Knebworth multi tracks exist, but "admitted" is not really the right word.

Mr.QueenFan wrote: It was only after a fan took some pictures of the tapes at the Genesis studio that QP finally admited they had it.

moonie wrote: So if the Screen feed does exist, along with the multitracks, they could sync them together.. The only thing is though, because of the limited camera angles due to the on the fly editing as it happened on the night, It wouldn't be up to par for a standalone release.. It would make a great dvd extra somewhere down the line for the inevitable umpteenth release of the Wembley show. But I'd very much doubt they'd go to the trouble..

The Real Wizard wrote:

Mr.QueenFan wrote: It was only after a fan took some pictures of the tapes at the Genesis studio that QP finally admited they had it.

Has anyone got that photo handy? I can swear I have it, but I can't find it in my records..

fr1986 wrote: What they can do, is mix it with the doro footage and also use whatever T.V footage from news is available.

cmsdrums wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Mr.QueenFan wrote: It was only after a fan took some pictures of the tapes at the Genesis studio that QP finally admited they had it.

Has anyone got that photo handy? I can swear I have it, but I can't find it in my records..

This one??

Doga wrote: I doubt there is much footage of the TVs out there. Even if TV stations still have the tapes, they probably have few of the first songs. Nowdays the standard procedure is allow cameras during the first three songs. How was back then? Any journalists can tell?

The Real Wizard wrote: 2-11-79 - Let Me Entertain You and WATC were aired, as well as a few songs in between (the whole show was filmed, but the remaining footage was scrapped)

The Real Wizard wrote: 2-11-79 - Let Me Entertain You and WATC were aired, as well as a few songs in between (the whole show was filmed, but the remaining footage was scrapped)

Doga wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: 2-11-79 - Let Me Entertain You and WATC were aired, as well as a few songs in between (the whole show was filmed, but the remaining footage was scrapped)

Oh no! Sad news of the day. That was a superb footage.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Doga wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: 2-11-79 - Let Me Entertain You and WATC were aired, as well as a few songs in between (the whole show was filmed, but the remaining footage was scrapped)

Oh no! Sad news of the day. That was a superb footage.

Indeed. Probably the best late 70s footage of Queen.