| queenuruguay 01.08.2014 23:44 |
After this wonderful release, which of the old gigs professionally recorded do you think that will be released and when? ¿Can we expect "Hammersmith 1975" next year? or a special "Live Killers" edition with a DVD? Wait your opinions. Cheers |
| tero! 48531 02.08.2014 01:40 |
I think that next year we should be getting Wembley '86 after all these old gigs! :P |
| tcc 02.08.2014 01:45 |
What Wembley ? It should be Knebworth ! |
| rocknrolllover 02.08.2014 01:52 |
Hammersmith odeon 1975. Dvd&CD |
| andyb1968 02.08.2014 02:56 |
Hyde park & Earls Court would be brilliant, but I don't think we'll ever see them : ( |
| Rokku 02.08.2014 03:29 |
I hope we'll finally see GVH3 or reissue of GVH1&2 |
| thomasquinn 32989 02.08.2014 04:10 |
Waiting for Hammy '79 myself, but that might be a while... |
| Dim 02.08.2014 04:31 |
HOUSTON 1977 with all the extra stuff (soundcheck - interviews etc.). |
| brENsKi 02.08.2014 05:15 |
i think another Milton keynes DVD is long overdue seriously, hammy 75, earls court 77 and houston 77 as a double pack dvd |
| Kacio 02.08.2014 05:38 |
Hammy '75, Earls Court '77, Houston '77, Hammy '79, Buenos Aires '81, Sao Paulo '81, Complete Rio '85 and Knebworth '86 :) |
| Rick 02.08.2014 05:58 |
Hyde Park 1976. That's my biggest wish. The big crowd, the interesting setlist, the camera angles and its historical value. Also, the bootleg video is not a good representation because of the damaged tape. What we have officially from this gig, like Sweet Lady and You Take My Breath Away, sound excellent. Sure, they were nervous, but they managed to perform an incredible show overall. |
| pittrek 02.08.2014 06:37 |
I think we can expect Hammersmith Odeon 1975 in 2015, Hyde Park 1976 in 2016 and Houston 1977 in 2017. |
| MercurialFreddie 02.08.2014 06:57 |
If Rhys will return to the Queen camp it will be definitely something from the 70's, presumably Houston. In the reddit with him he admitted that live box set / concert release from 70's was in the works, so maybe they have already remastered other gigs from the 70's. I guess that all will depend on the Rainbow sales. The greater the sales, the higher will be probability of another release like Rainbow. |
| thomasquinn 32989 02.08.2014 13:45 |
pittrek wrote: I think we can expect Hammersmith Odeon 1975 in 2015, Hyde Park 1976 in 2016 and Houston 1977 in 2017.What, aside from the obvious arithmetic, makes you think that? |
| The Real Wizard 02.08.2014 14:32 |
They already cleaned up the Earls Court 6-6-77 audio for the Stormtroopers in Stilettos exhibition in 2011. Let's hope they don't sit on it forever. This stuff needs to be heard. |
| GERRYISADICK 02.08.2014 14:36 |
pittrek wrote: I think we can expect Hammersmith Odeon 1975 in 2015, Hyde Park 1976 in 2016 and Houston 1977 in 2017.Why hammersmith its not that much different from the rainbow |
| lemonysnick123 02.08.2014 14:48 |
pittrek wrote: I think we can expect Hammersmith Odeon 1975 in 2015, Hyde Park 1976 in 2016 and Houston 1977 in 2017.I hope this is the case. This would be amazing |
| The Real Wizard 02.08.2014 14:51 |
Jefffab1995 wrote:Probably because the work has already been done, for a 2009 BBC broadcast.pittrek wrote: I think we can expect Hammersmith Odeon 1975 in 2015, Hyde Park 1976 in 2016 and Houston 1977 in 2017.Why hammersmith its not that much different from the rainbow |
| GERRYISADICK 02.08.2014 14:55 |
Can you link me to it? |
| pittrek 02.08.2014 15:00 |
Why Hammy will be 99% next? 1) It's done. They have the remastered video + the remastered audio. They have some remastered bonus footage. The only effort is the authoring + promotion 2) The Hammersmith Odeon videos are disappearing from youtube. You can now find only the old badly edited TV broadcast or just audio clips. When they pulled the Rainbow clips a few months later they announced Rainbow |
| GERRYISADICK 02.08.2014 15:02 |
Maybe its just a copyright issue |
| thomasquinn 32989 02.08.2014 15:14 |
Hammersmith '75 would be pretty much the absolute least desirable release (excluding re-releases) I could imagine. I don't think I'd buy that. |
| people on streets 02.08.2014 15:35 |
pittrek wrote: I think we can expect Hammersmith Odeon 1975 in 2015, Hyde Park 1976 in 2016 and Houston 1977 in 2017.I was thinking the same. |
| fr1986 02.08.2014 15:48 |
They should Release Houston 77 since they were back in the States after a long time. Then i would love to Have Hammersmith 1979. Buenos Aires 1981 and Knebworth 1986. Amazing gigs!! |
| pittrek 02.08.2014 15:52 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Hammersmith '75 would be pretty much the absolute least desirable release (excluding re-releases) I could imagine. I don't think I'd buy that.Well it was officially announced 2 times already (or 3?) so it's just a matter of WHEN and not IF. |
| Chief Mouse 02.08.2014 15:53 |
You guys mentioning Knebworth, but do they have the footage? I think it was clear that they don't except for the DoRo bits. I suppose they could only release the audio track from this gig. |
| thomasquinn 32989 02.08.2014 16:15 |
pittrek wrote:Unless it got shelved in favor of this Rainbow set. Who knows, really? I certainly never saw *this* release coming, so I haven't got a clue what the next release could be.thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Hammersmith '75 would be pretty much the absolute least desirable release (excluding re-releases) I could imagine. I don't think I'd buy that.Well it was officially announced 2 times already (or 3?) so it's just a matter of WHEN and not IF. |
| Doga 02.08.2014 16:21 |
Hammersmith 75 isn't very desirable now, i agree. With this Rainbow release all the songs of Hammersmith are covered. A brilliant idea could be a Bluray of Hammersmith and another show from the ANATO tour complete in CD (one of the japanese ones, maybe?) if they have the multitracks, of course. And if the footage isn't damaged, there is always the possibility of Hyde Park. |
| MERQRY 02.08.2014 17:42 |
Doga wrote: Hammersmith 75 isn't very desirable now, i agree. With this Rainbow release all the songs of Hammersmith are covered. A brilliant idea could be a Bluray of Hammersmith and another show from the ANATO tour complete in CD (one of the japanese ones, maybe?) if they have the multitracks, of course. And if the footage isn't damaged, there is always the possibility of Hyde Park. Except Boh Rap and Brighton Rock... I guess multitracks aren't so important, a good soundboard mix is sufficient for this kind of release. But yeah, if they have multitracks from another show of ANATO tour, it would be great. A couple of years ago, i read a post (in Queenonline forum) where the poster said she has a friend who works with Universal and he told her that Queen was working in Rainbow, and planing to release one gig every year for the 40th Anniversary, i mean 2014 Rainbow 74, 2015 Hamm 75, etc. Till the moment it was right... but that is only speculation. At the moment i'm happy with Rainbow. |
| Freddie89 02.08.2014 18:01 |
I’d like to see a box set of Hammersmith 75/79 seeing that were getting the Rainbow from 2 different tours. |
| fjac1980 02.08.2014 18:13 |
Maybe they could release some kind of boxset with "Southamerica Tour 1981"... |
| lemonysnick123 02.08.2014 18:31 |
Freddie89 wrote: I’d like to see a box set of Hammersmith 75/79 seeing that were getting the Rainbow from 2 different tours.That would be an awesome box set. Since we've pretty much seen what an official Hammy '75 looks like, adding Hammy '79 would make the release really special. |
| akan 02.08.2014 19:02 |
In my opinion the Rainbow release is the best Queen release since Made in Heaven, along with Wembley (25th anniversary edition) and Queen On Fire ones. So the choiche about the future live releases is very limited. If I could choose thr show to release I'll go on the Houston 77 one for sure. I think they will release all the 3 shows (Houston, Hammy 75 and Hyde Park) but the Big question is what they will release after these ones. Is there any unreleased film that they can release? Since the Rainbow release almost all the periods are covered: - Queen 1 / 2 / SHA: Rainbow - ANATO/ADATR: ? Hammy 75 (future) or Hyde Park (future) - NOTW/JAZZ: Hammy 79 (future) and Houston (future) - the game: rock montreal + sud america - hot space: queen on fire - the works: Rio and Tokyo - magic tour: wembley and budapest Since the Works live shows are not definitively the best Queen live period they should choose something who is really unknown or unseen (like the Friday Wembley show), anyway it is thrilling. I wonder if they can play their Ace and release something we couldn't never and ever expect. |
| akan 02.08.2014 19:17 |
The Real Wizard wrote: They already cleaned up the Earls Court 6-6-77 audio for the Stormtroopers in Stilettos exhibition in 2011. Let's hope they don't sit on it forever. This stuff needs to be heard.A box set containing Earls Court + Houston would be amazing, like the Rainbow release. But if QP makes some nice job don't expect another nice job then :-) On the other side the music marketing is changing so anything is possbile. One big thing is that there are relatively a few shows only to release. |
| Doga 02.08.2014 19:29 |
So far this is what they have: Complete Queen shows recorded in video. Queen I & II: None Sheer Heart Attack: Rainbow '74 (November) A Night At The Opera: Hammersmith '75 & Hyde Park '76 A Day At Races: Earl's Court '77 News of The World: Houston '77 Jazz: Paris '79 & Hammersmith '79 The Game: Montreal '81 Hot Space: Milton Keynes '82 The Works: Rock In Rio '85 & Tokyo '85 A Kind Of Magic: Wembley '86 & Budapest '86 Some south american shows from '81 were filmed aswell, but Rock Montreal outshine them. Now the questions are, how many shows they recorded in audio with multitracks? and, want Queen Productions release a show ''only'' in CD? |
| on my way up 03.08.2014 04:48 |
1) The goal should be to offer a live document for every tour. 2) With the Rainbow release we now have beautiful live documents from the Queen II en SHA tours. 3) ANATO and ADATR: there is no video recorded ANATO tour concert. The well known Hammersmith 1975 video was a one off show and doesn't include all the songs played during the tour. Hyde Park '76 includes some ANATO songs not played at Hammy '75 but also You take my breath away from ADATR. So, what I think they should do, is release Hammy'75 and include a complete audio concert from that tour: problem is, we don't know whether they have a show from that tour professionaly recorded... Or maybe - of they have no ANATO audio - bring out Hammy'75 and Hyde Park in one set as two "one offs'" :-) 4) ADATR - NOTW: they have the two wonderful Earls Court shows and also Houston during the NOTW: I think it is best to release a 1977 box with Earls Court, Houston and a documentary of the US NOTW tour... Rhys even mentioned the possibility to include "a few shows from that tour" so maybe there's more audio in the archives (it'd be awesome to also have pro audio of syw and it's late from NOTW 77). This set could be - when done well - be legendary aswell, just like Rainbow :-) 5) Jazz: lots of Live Killers concerts recorded so great potential and then there's also the Crazy Tour with Hammy'79 (which was also sort of a one off but they played an entire set!) and I'm silently hoping they have usable audio from one or more other Crazy tour shows. Shows like Rotterdam 30/01/79, Frankfurt 02/02/79, Barcelona 20/02/79, the Paris ones (especially the 01/03/1979) are all awesome and then there are shows we haven't heard before :-) :-) |
| The Real Wizard 03.08.2014 05:32 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: Can you link me to it?link link One is from satellite, the other is from TV. I'd say the former is slightly better quality. |
| The Real Wizard 03.08.2014 05:37 |
Doga wrote: Jazz: Paris '79 & Hammersmith '79 Hot Space: Milton Keynes '82Add Tokyo 4-25-79 and 11-3-82 to that list as well. The 4-24-79 film may be complete as well. Now the questions are, how many shows they recorded in audio with multitracks?In addition to the filmed shows you mentioned, there are these, at least.. London 3-31-74 (about to be released) Europe 1979 shows recorded for Live Killers Knebworth 8-9-86 |
| thomasquinn 32989 03.08.2014 05:46 |
Didn't Greg say at some point that they don't have full multitracks for the Live Killers shows anymore, just parts and stereo mixdowns? |
| pittrek 03.08.2014 06:35 |
akan wrote:Why would they do this? Take 2 shows from 2 absolutely different tours? Makes no sense.The Real Wizard wrote: They already cleaned up the Earls Court 6-6-77 audio for the Stormtroopers in Stilettos exhibition in 2011. Let's hope they don't sit on it forever. This stuff needs to be heard.A box set containing Earls Court + Houston would be amazing, like the Rainbow release. But if QP makes some nice job don't expect another nice job then :-) On the other side the music marketing is changing so anything is possbile. One big thing is that there are relatively a few shows only to release. |
| pittrek 03.08.2014 06:39 |
And one more point - we KNOW that they remastered (at least) Hammersmith Odeon 75, Hyde Park 76 and made a new HD scan of the Bob Harris footage, which includes Houston 77. QPL is a business company, their goal is to make profit. Why do you think they would spend money on restoring the shows? They want to make profit of them. It's only a matter of time. |
| pittrek 03.08.2014 06:40 |
fjac1980 wrote: Maybe they could release some kind of boxset with "Southamerica Tour 1981"...I don't really think so. The tapes used for the 2011 documentary look WORSE than the recordings which we have now. The masters must be in very bad shape. |
| pittrek 03.08.2014 06:42 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Didn't Greg say at some point that they don't have full multitracks for the Live Killers shows anymore, just parts and stereo mixdowns?Well yes, but he wrote also that they don't have the Rainbow March audio and he was surprised to find out that we have actually some FOOTAGE of the March show. If I remember correctly EMI returned them a huge amount of previously unseen/unheard material in late 2010 |
| jacksonmerc 03.08.2014 09:45 |
If they are releasing concerts in chronological order from their 40th anniversary, how come the early Tokyo concert was left out? i would be happy to assume that this is a one off release. Disappointment is less bearable. |
| pittrek 03.08.2014 10:01 |
The Tokyo 75 footage was released in 2011 |
| Nitroboy 03.08.2014 11:49 |
I think a Houston '77 + what was recorded of Fort Worth and the U.S. tour by Bob Harris, would make a great release. |
| akan 03.08.2014 13:33 |
KNitroboy wrote: I think a Houston '77 + what was recorded of Fort Worth and the U.S. tour by Bob Harris, would make a great release.If they release that box set it would be the BEST live release ever. But I fear it will be a dream only. And we should wait 2017 anyway. |
| GERRYISADICK 03.08.2014 13:36 |
Maybe a double release of earls court and Houston? |
| Nitroboy 03.08.2014 13:44 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: Maybe a double release of earls court and Houston? Those two wouldn't really go all too well together, two very different tours and setlists. If Earls Court should ever be released it should be as a double box with both nights. |
| GERRYISADICK 03.08.2014 13:47 |
Just throwing that idea out |
| MadTheSwine73 03.08.2014 16:13 |
I think that the Earls Court and Houston gigs will both be released in 2017, with Houston having it's own box, as well as Earls Court, separately. However, due to the fact that the general public won't know the difference between the two tours (since they're both in 1977), I wouldn't be surprised if they put them together in a box set. I really do wish for Hyde Park to be released, though. I can see that being released in a similar format as Rainbow, add they were both historic gigs. |
| Oscar J 03.08.2014 17:21 |
Nitroboy wrote:Are you saying that the two Rainbow tours aren't from different tours and with different setlist?Jefffab1995 wrote: Maybe a double release of earls court and Houston?Those two wouldn't really go all too well together, two very different tours and setlists. If Earls Court should ever be released it should be as a double box with both nights. I think a Houston/Earls Court release would be great. Why would anyone that isn't a hardcore Queen fan want to see two nights with exactly the same arrangement anyway? |
| The Real Wizard 04.08.2014 01:41 |
pittrek wrote:But isn't that what the current Rainbow release is !??akan wrote: A box set containing Earls Court + Houston would be amazing, like the Rainbow release. But if QP makes some nice job don't expect another nice job then :-) On the other side the music marketing is changing so anything is possbile. One big thing is that there are relatively a few shows only to release.Why would they do this? Take 2 shows from 2 absolutely different tours? Makes no sense. |
| The Real Wizard 04.08.2014 01:43 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Didn't Greg say at some point that they don't have full multitracks for the Live Killers shows anymore, just parts and stereo mixdowns?No, definitely not. In fact, they were put to use in 2011, as Sheer Heart Attack from Paris 79 was included as a bonus track on the NOTW remaster. I sincerely hope that isn't the last we'll hear from that. |
| pittrek 04.08.2014 02:22 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Well but these setlists are pretty similar. The setlists in 1977 changed drastically, but in 1974 they basically added a few new songspittrek wrote:But isn't that what the current Rainbow release is !??akan wrote: A box set containing Earls Court + Houston would be amazing, like the Rainbow release. But if QP makes some nice job don't expect another nice job then :-) On the other side the music marketing is changing so anything is possbile. One big thing is that there are relatively a few shows only to release.Why would they do this? Take 2 shows from 2 absolutely different tours? Makes no sense. |
| akan 04.08.2014 04:49 |
pittrek wrote:in my opinion the setlist difference could be a strengh point for a release including both the Earls Courth and the Houston show.The Real Wizard wrote:Well but these setlists are pretty similar. The setlists in 1977 changed drastically, but in 1974 they basically added a few new songspittrek wrote:But isn't that what the current Rainbow release is !??akan wrote: A box set containing Earls Court + Houston would be amazing, like the Rainbow release. But if QP makes some nice job don't expect another nice job then :-) On the other side the music marketing is changing so anything is possbile. One big thing is that there are relatively a few shows only to release.Why would they do this? Take 2 shows from 2 absolutely different tours? Makes no sense. Let's imagine a double DVD/cd with BOTH Earls Courth nights: true fans would be happy about it but what about the other people? They would simply do not care about the 2nd night, while a Earls Court + Houston box set could be more interesting to buy, according to the normal customers. Of course I would prefer 2 different releases, one for Earls Court (2 nights) and one for Houston (+ bonus material like other 77 USA shows and Harris documentary). The question is: are we sure that QP is gonna release 2 different box sets in 2017? They surprised me making the Rainbow double show but i fear they won't suprise me again Let's not forget that QP released Montreal '81 along with Live Aid in ONE release :) |
| thomasquinn 32989 04.08.2014 05:06 |
Interesting question regarding box sets with two nearly identical shows setlist-wise. Does anyone know how well the Wembley 25th anniversary edition sold in comparison to the Live At Wembley Stadium release? |
| The Real Wizard 04.08.2014 12:26 |
pittrek wrote: Well but these setlists are pretty similar. The setlists in 1977 changed drastically, but in 1974 they basically added a few new songsQueen II tour - 13 songs, 3 dropped for SHA tour SHA tour - 18 songs, 8 new (7 SHA songs and Black Queen) vs. ADATR tour - 24 songs, 7 songs dropped for NOTW tour NOTW tour - 27 songs, 9 new (7 NOTW songs and IILWMC/LOML) ^ so ultimately I'd say the situation wasn't too different. A 1977 box set with a compilation of 2 nights at Earls Court plus Houston and rehearsal/soundcheck/offstage/interview Bob Harris footage would be mind-blowingly awesome. We could then definitely say that 70s Queen would be well covered by official releases. |
| akan 04.08.2014 13:28 |
The Real Wizard wrote:the 70s will be well covered just in case they release a Crazy Tour box set: they can make Hammermisth + Houston + Earls Court but the final goal is the Crazy Tour for me :D I just need the audio, I don't care about the video :D Let's not forget it was the best Queen tour ever in many aspects. I'd pay it the money I earn in 1 month, seriously, could you imagine a Box set with the Newcastle 79 soundboard? Amazing.pittrek wrote: Well but these setlists are pretty similar. The setlists in 1977 changed drastically, but in 1974 they basically added a few new songsQueen II tour - 13 songs, 3 dropped for SHA tour SHA tour - 18 songs, 8 new (7 SHA songs and Black Queen) vs. ADATR tour - 24 songs, 7 songs dropped for NOTW tour NOTW tour - 27 songs, 9 new (7 NOTW songs and IILWMC/LOML) ^ so ultimately I'd say the situation wasn't too different. A 1977 box set with a compilation of 2 nights at Earls Court plus Houston and rehearsal/soundcheck/offstage/interview Bob Harris footage would be mind-blowingly awesome. We could then definitely say that 70s Queen would be well covered by official releases. Anyway you're right, that Eearls Court + Houston + bonus would be awsome too. |