MERQRY 31.07.2014 20:39 |
Here i uploaded a file with all the samples from both gigs at the Rainbow for those who haven't iTunes: https://www.mediafire.com/?lmgpciqxp62z378 Glad to hear Great King Rat, White Queen and Fairy Feller's from March Rainbow! The quality is SUPERB. Hands down, the greatest release ever. |
lemonysnick123 31.07.2014 22:00 |
Thanks dude! |
Saint Jiub 31.07.2014 22:14 |
Thanks. I hate Apple crapware. I purchased the hard copy Deluxe edition from Amazon.com a few minutes ago. |
people on streets 31.07.2014 22:46 |
Thanks! I hate Apple. |
tcc 31.07.2014 22:59 |
Thanks for this. Looking forward to Sept. I am greedy now - what will they do for November ? |
pittrek 01.08.2014 00:56 |
Thanks a lot! I hate Apple software, why can't they upload this to their own e-shop? |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 01.08.2014 01:52 |
Wow this is indeed the best ever Queen package since a long time. 2 remarks : 1 Ogre Battle 31-03 : please notice they removed the feedback from the guitar in the begining of this song. This is very clear on the bootlegs (and ear piercing anytime ....) 2 To my ears these are 2 different types of recording / mixing/ multitracking etc. am I the only which prefers the sound quality of 31-03 way above the november 20 th ? |
Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon 01.08.2014 05:37 |
Thanks for sharing here! |
DepeX 01.08.2014 05:48 |
Great, thanks! EDIT: Indeed, the best mix is the March one |
inu-liger 01.08.2014 06:11 |
Yeah the March recording is incredibly crisp sounding compared to the November recording(s). |
JackTorrance 01.08.2014 06:35 |
inu-liger wrote: Yeah the March recording is incredibly crisp sounding compared to the November recording(s).Thanks!!!! Sounds great! Awesome release. BTW, why are only 3 songs 'filmed' (on videotape) from the March show? Or was the full show recorded and lost or something? |
Nitroboy 01.08.2014 06:45 |
JackTorrance wrote:inu-liger wrote: Yeah the March recording is incredibly crisp sounding compared to the November recording(s).Thanks!!!! Sounds great! Awesome release. BTW, why are only 3 songs 'filmed' (on videotape) from the March show? Or was the full show recorded and lost or something? A theory is that they videotaped Son and Daughter and Modern Times Rock 'N' Roll for promotional use to be shown on TV for the originally planned release of the live album. |
MercurialFreddie 01.08.2014 06:47 |
Thanks for uploading the samples to Mediafire. Harmonies in "In the lap of the gods (revisited...)" are spot on ! |
Rick 01.08.2014 10:08 |
I love how Freddie tries to hit the high notes in White Queen (March show). He does a fantastic job! |
cmi 01.08.2014 11:41 |
THanks a lot for all samples. 45 minutes of Queen live 1974 in superb quality! |
Mr.QueenFan 01.08.2014 13:39 |
JackTorrance wrote:Probably yes. Those where the only songs they could find for this release. I believe that they recorded the full concert on video, and edited these three songs for TV shows to promote the live album- Several televisions around te world have these videos, and that means that they have droped the live album very near it's release. Why? i don't know.inu-liger wrote: Yeah the March recording is incredibly crisp sounding compared to the November recording(s).Thanks!!!! Sounds great! Awesome release. BTW, why are only 3 songs 'filmed' (on videotape) from the March show? Or was the full show recorded and lost or something? But in the end i think that the complete show was filmed, and had they found it, this release would be a different story, because for me the March show is the star of this release. November show is great too, but March show is magical Queen at their best. |
BETA215 01.08.2014 13:41 |
Thanks for the concert "summary"! |
Nitroboy 01.08.2014 13:53 |
Mr.QueenFan wrote:But in the end i think that the complete show was filmed, and had they found it, this release would be a different story, because for me the March show is the star of this release. November show is great too, but March show is magical Queen at their best. Queen archivist Greg Brooks has confirmed that no other footage from this show exists, other than the two songs widely circulated. |
Mr.QueenFan 01.08.2014 14:01 |
Nitroboy wrote:He can only confirm that it doesn't exist in the archives. Unless he knows what hapened, then he can't say that it doesn't exist for sure.Mr.QueenFan wrote:Queen archivist Greg Brooks has confirmed that no other footage from this show exists, other than the two songs widely circulated.But in the end i think that the complete show was filmed, and had they found it, this release would be a different story, because for me the March show is the star of this release. November show is great too, but March show is magical Queen at their best. Rhys Thomas who is responsible for the Video archive never said it didn't exist. He said that they could only track down these three tracks. |
Marknow 01.08.2014 14:03 |
Thanks for putting this together and upping it here. I too hate apple, bunch of overpriced cunts founded on the principles of a thief and a liar. They'll nae get a shekel from me!!! (rant over) |
people on streets 01.08.2014 15:36 |
Marknow wrote: Thanks for putting this together and upping it here. I too hate apple, bunch of overpriced cunts founded on the principles of a thief and a liar. They'll nae get a shekel from me!!! (rant over)Amen to that! |
people on streets 01.08.2014 15:37 |
Listened to these samples 3 times already. I'm ready for the release. Can't wait to be honest. Been a long time since I was so looking forward to a Queen release / queen related event. |
teddi2002 01.08.2014 16:38 |
Thanks a lot! I synced pieces of the concert video to the previews for my own enjoyment, https://mega.co.nz/#!bJJHiKYY!NUmgeWqKcGKxm0Q4uf51qermwdrD6pXzQRukb3bGp9Q (for anyone interested), and it's evident that most of the lead vocals in the upcoming release are indeed live! It seems that more than half the lead vocals on the old vhs were overdubbed. A great example of this is "Wanna try?" in Killer Queen in the first seconds of the preview. Most of the backing vocals seems to be overdubbed still though. |
Doga 01.08.2014 16:54 |
Great! We the iTunesless people thank you. |
people on streets 01.08.2014 20:22 |
teddi2002 wrote: Thanks a lot! I synced pieces of the concert video to the previews for my own enjoyment, https://mega.co.nz/#!bJJHiKYY!NUmgeWqKcGKxm0Q4uf51qermwdrD6pXzQRukb3bGp9Q (for anyone interested), and it's evident that most of the lead vocals in the upcoming release are indeed live! It seems that more than half the lead vocals on the old vhs were overdubbed. A great example of this is "Wanna try?" in Killer Queen in the first seconds of the preview. Most of the backing vocals seems to be overdubbed still though.Cool! Thanks. Nice Flick Of The Wrist footage! |
The Real Wizard 02.08.2014 02:22 |
teddi2002 wrote: It seems that more than half the lead vocals on the old vhs were overdubbed. A great example of this is "Wanna try?" in Killer Queen in the first seconds of the preview. Most of the backing vocals seems to be overdubbed still though.Overdubbed, or just taken from the other night ? They had two nights of audio to work with but only one night of video (apparently). Thanks for doing the synch work. It's wonderful to see how passionate (and quick) Queen fans can be in times like this ! |
MackMantilla 02.08.2014 02:49 |
teddi2002 wrote: Thanks a lot! I synced pieces of the concert video to the previews for my own enjoyment, https://mega.co.nz/#!bJJHiKYY!NUmgeWqKcGKxm0Q4uf51qermwdrD6pXzQRukb3bGp9Q (for anyone interested), and it's evident that most of the lead vocals in the upcoming release are indeed live! It seems that more than half the lead vocals on the old vhs were overdubbed. A great example of this is "Wanna try?" in Killer Queen in the first seconds of the preview. Most of the backing vocals seems to be overdubbed still though.Nice :D |
inu-liger 02.08.2014 03:01 |
Don't think so Bob. GT played some footage from the first night of Rainbow at Breakthru 2011, they have video from both nights. |
The Real Wizard 02.08.2014 03:02 |
inu-liger wrote: Don't think so Bob. GT played some footage from the first night of Rainbow at Breakthru 2011, they have video from both nights.They do *now*. But when they did the original edit this apparently wasn't the case. |
teddi2002 02.08.2014 03:48 |
The Real Wizard wrote:teddi2002 wrote: It seems that more than half the lead vocals on the old vhs were overdubbed. A great example of this is "Wanna try?" in Killer Queen in the first seconds of the preview. Most of the backing vocals seems to be overdubbed still though.Overdubbed, or just taken from the other night ? They had two nights of audio to work with but only one night of video (apparently). Thanks for doing the synch work. It's wonderful to see how passionate (and quick) Queen fans can be in times like this ! I think the lead vocals where studio overdubbed. The previews of White Queen, for example, shows that Freddie was slightly out of tune at times and his voice cracked a bit. These are typical reasons for overdubbing. The last part of Jailhouse Rock is not from the same show in the preview as in the vhs (but the first part is). In all other parts of the show, at least the instruments match audio wise. I would presume that the video on the vhs is from the other night at the end of the song. |
Mr.QueenFan 02.08.2014 12:47 |
inu-liger wrote: Don't think so Bob. GT played some footage from the first night of Rainbow at Breakthru 2011, they have video from both nights.But isn't this release a compilation from both nights (video footage)? I'm reading so much information that it's confusing. |
inu-liger 08.08.2014 00:56 |
Is the download link down? |
teddi2002 08.08.2014 05:56 |
inu-liger wrote: Is the download link down? Here's a mirror: https://mega.co.nz/#!aMplGC6b!AUA9xth6rIOt-UeT7uO0oFZy8VQnz7fpFWb5mC61vUs |
Nitroboy 09.08.2014 23:49 |
Has anyone noticed the difference in Freddie's vocals from the bootlegs to the new mix in Modern Times Rock 'N' Roll? They sound very different. I've mixed both the bootleg mix and the new mix to the video in an .mkv file - it sounds like AT LEAST the choruses were overdubbed on the lead vocals. https://mega.co.nz/#!FElzmTjb!6o38k5ejUMSXsIsC00cVzo_wZQvm48ArDReEVgbQaWk |
The Real Wizard 10.08.2014 02:23 |
Thanks for that. Of course it's hard to tell which one has been overdubbed, since we don't have an audience tape or a raw board recording to compare it to. But using Montreal 81 as a template, I'd say the newer version isn't overdubbed. On the old We Will Rock You VHS/DVD there were lead vocals that were overdubbed, and on Queen Rock Montreal these spots suddenly matched the audience tape. They elected to stick with the original vocal much more. |
Chief Mouse 10.08.2014 02:41 |
The Real Wizard wrote: But using Montreal 81 as a template, I'd say the newer version isn't overdubbed. On the old We Will Rock You VHS/DVD there were lead vocals that were overdubbed, and on Queen Rock Montreal these spots suddenly matched the audience tape. They elected to stick with the original vocal much more. Reminds also of Hungarian Rhapsody's Under Pressure. http://youtu.be/tV_QFo9FCvs?t=1m53s I sort of wish they left in that high note overdub though :P |
pittrek 10.08.2014 04:14 |
It's a pity they still don't understand there's a huge number of fans who want a recording of EXACTLY what happened on that night (no cuts, no overdubs etc). |
brians wig 10.08.2014 04:48 |
pittrek wrote: It's a pity they still don't understand there's a huge number of fans who want a recording of EXACTLY what happened on that night (no cuts, no overdubs etc)....BOTH nights on Bluray/DVD including the ten minutes where the audience where entertained during the power cut.... |
pittrek 10.08.2014 05:05 |
I WOULD buy that. I'm serious. |
Rick 10.08.2014 14:01 |
pittrek wrote: It's a pity they still don't understand there's a huge number of fans who want a recording of EXACTLY what happened on that night (no cuts, no overdubs etc).Dire Straits' Alchemy has no overdubs. It's even in the liner notes! Even a perfect live band like Muse has overdubs on their Rome release. Unfortunately. |
on my way up 10.08.2014 14:15 |
Rick wrote:I adore Muse but... They're not a perfect live band. They make use of click and backing tracks so even not everything you hear on the night (at the show itself) is live...pittrek wrote: It's a pity they still don't understand there's a huge number of fans who want a recording of EXACTLY what happened on that night (no cuts, no overdubs etc).Dire Straits' Alchemy has no overdubs. It's even in the liner notes! Even a perfect live band like Muse has overdubs on their Rome release. Unfortunately. |
Nitroboy 10.08.2014 14:24 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Thanks for that. Of course it's hard to tell which one has been overdubbed, since we don't have an audience tape or a raw board recording to compare it to. But using Montreal 81 as a template, I'd say the newer version isn't overdubbed. On the old We Will Rock You VHS/DVD there were lead vocals that were overdubbed, and on Queen Rock Montreal these spots suddenly matched the audience tape. They elected to stick with the original vocal much more. When listening to the bootleg mix, I faintly hear a 2nd lead vocal from Freddie, lying underneath the main one. It might be something technical, or it could be the original vocal. Just to make sure everyone knows this: Audio track 1 is the bootleg one, whilst track 2 is the new mix from the iTunes sample. |
Nitroboy 10.08.2014 14:29 |
On second thoughts, it might simply be reverb that I'm hearing on the bootleg recording. One thing that I am certain of is that the 1st chorus has an overdubbed Freddie, which they have now removed. |
Oscar J 10.08.2014 14:39 |
I like overdubs. I listen to the concerts mainly to enjoy the music, and if some fattened up harmonies or pitch corrected vocals in the ending of March's version of Seven Seas Of Rhye make the listening experience better, then that's fine with me. All I demand is that it's done with some moderation - it's when it gets too obvious it gets a bit disturbing. |
Nitroboy 10.08.2014 14:58 |
I'm not talking about Seven Seas of Rhye though :)
Nitroboy wrote: Has anyone noticed the difference in Freddie's vocals from the bootlegs to the new mix in Modern Times Rock 'N' Roll? They sound very different. I've mixed both the bootleg mix and the new mix to the video in an .mkv file - it sounds like AT LEAST the choruses were overdubbed on the lead vocals. https://mega.co.nz/#!FElzmTjb!6o38k5ejUMSXsIsC00cVzo_wZQvm48ArDReEVgbQaWk |
Oscar J 10.08.2014 16:05 |
Yes, I was not directing that to anyone specific. :) |
Rick 11.08.2014 05:12 |
on my way up wrote:That's true, but have a listen at their earlier stuff. The best example is probably Glastonbury 2004. Maybe their best concert ever. Montreux 2002 is also amazing.Rick wrote:I adore Muse but... They're not a perfect live band. They make use of click and backing tracks so even not everything you hear on the night (at the show itself) is live...pittrek wrote: It's a pity they still don't understand there's a huge number of fans who want a recording of EXACTLY what happened on that night (no cuts, no overdubs etc).Dire Straits' Alchemy has no overdubs. It's even in the liner notes! Even a perfect live band like Muse has overdubs on their Rome release. Unfortunately. Since 2006 they are using tons of effects, that's true. Orchestral parts are all pre-recorded for example, but hey, the main instruments are still done live. And they deliver, each night. |
The Real Wizard 11.08.2014 15:03 |
Nitroboy wrote: On second thoughts, it might simply be reverb that I'm hearing on the bootleg recording. One thing that I am certain of is that the 1st chorus has an overdubbed Freddie, which they have now removed.Seems accurate to me ! Also, just compare the audio of the old Son And Daughter footage to any of the later bootleg material and you can clearly hear what was overdubbed. The TV footage is the raw audio. |