scottmax 29.07.2014 00:44 |
After tweeting William Orbit asking about what happened to the Queen track he was working on, he's just replied saying he's working on another one this week. Which one do you think it is? |
princetom 29.07.2014 02:04 |
"Love Kills" (William Orbit Remix) ? |
andyb1968 29.07.2014 02:27 |
Bit worried about these remixes, this is Madonna's producer remember, disco/dance mixes ! Also I remember some of the remixes of Freddie's tracks which were horrendous ! Caution recommended. |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 04:48 |
Man made paradise. |
GERRYISADICK 29.07.2014 04:56 |
rocknrolllover i respect you now for mentioning man made paradise |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 05:34 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: rocknrolllover i respect you now for mentioning man made paradiseWhy? |
GERRYISADICK 29.07.2014 05:57 |
Its one of the few good tracks from mr bad guy |
Stelios 29.07.2014 05:57 |
^^^ok...i get it. was a bit ackward at the begining " respect you for mentioning ManMadeParadise..." |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 06:01 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: Its one of the few good tracks from mr bad guyI agree. I don't think that William tell what track he's now working. I'm looking forward ! |
GERRYISADICK 29.07.2014 06:13 |
If they do remix it they should keep the general melody |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 06:28 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: If they do remix it they should keep the general melodyWait and see. |
GERRYISADICK 29.07.2014 06:45 |
If it is on the new album which I hope it is . Its nice having a conversation with you rocknrolllover you are not as bad as people make you out to be |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 06:46 |
princetom wrote: "Love Kills" (William Orbit Remix) ?Good assumption, but... If this song has gradate disco thing( which nobody likes ) but William can do it into pop genre which nobody likes also. |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 06:46 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: If it is on the new album which I hope it is . Its nice having a conversation with you rocknrolllover you are not as bad as people make you out to beDon't forget that this album will be as compilation. |
princetom 29.07.2014 06:49 |
rocknrolllover wrote:you're probably right.princetom wrote: "Love Kills" (William Orbit Remix) ?Good assumption, but... If this song has gradate disco thing( which nobody likes ) but William can do it into pop genre which nobody likes also. but Orbit also produced some ballads aswell. and he likes to produce in an unconventional way. |
GERRYISADICK 29.07.2014 06:51 |
Yes so im going to have to nitpick the new tracks I dont need we will rock you from a new album when i already have it. Sadly that tells us they might only have a few new tracks but even that is a treasure. |
andyb1968 29.07.2014 08:07 |
From what Brian has said its only 3 tracks, love kills, let me in your heart & ?. The rest are ballads from the albums. |
Stelios 29.07.2014 08:16 |
andyb1968 wrote: Bit worried about these remixes, this is Madonna's producer remember, disco/dance mixes ! Also I remember some of the remixes of Freddie's tracks which were horrendous ! Caution recommended. |
Stelios 29.07.2014 08:17 |
andyb1968 wrote: Bit worried about these remixes, this is Madonna's producer remember, disco/dance mixes ! Also I remember some of the remixes of Freddie's tracks which were horrendous ! Caution recommended. |
Stelios 29.07.2014 08:19 |
andyb1968 wrote: Bit worried about these remixes, this is Madonna's producer remember, disco/dance mixes ! Also I remember some of the remixes of Freddie's tracks which were horrendous ! Caution recommended.William Orbit is not a light, "just dance" producer. Even while he was producing Madonna. Apart from Frozen ( a really interesting track) listen to this link |
Vocal harmony 29.07.2014 08:51 |
William Orbit is just what "Queen" need. He isn't a yes man. His approach is different to what they've had in the past. This can only be good. IMO, during the mid 80's the band were so big and successful that anyone who was sitting in the producers chair was probably having to agree or at least compromise with ideas that maybe were questionable. |
Mr.QueenFan 29.07.2014 09:26 |
scottmax wrote: After tweeting William Orbit asking about what happened to the Queen track he was working on, he's just replied saying he's working on another one this week. Which one do you think it is?The interesting thing about this is that this may well be other track than the ones we know. Brian finished his work on the Freddie's tracks, and William Orbit already did his work on "There must be more to life than this", and i suppose the MJ tracks were finished a couple years ago. So, even though we know this is going to be a compilation, maybe this is going to be different versions of well known Queen hits? We'll have to wait, but i think we are going to get more than what we are expecting, and i wouldn't rule out a MIH 2 kind of record. |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 09:30 |
Anything can happen need to wait. |
jondickens1 29.07.2014 10:55 |
When did Brian say there were only 3 tracks? One obvious track is Love Kills but the others (I heard on the interview on BBC Wales) were unheard tracks. We don't even know for definite Let me in will be one of the unheard tracks......tho I hope so. It's all so exciting and Rainbow in 6 weeks time. A glorious year! |
andyb1968 29.07.2014 11:08 |
Before the tour Brian was saying in syndicated interviews that there wasn't enough material for an album, 2 possibly 3 tracks from the mid 80's, the Queen forever album was slated for last Xmas, a Queen rocks style compilation of ballads, but it was shelved when they discovered the unheard tracks, that's all this will be, this tour is a device to pre promote it in N.America. As for the William Orbit issue, the guys mixes just aren't my cup of tea, I'm old school :-) |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 11:27 |
I don't think that he(William Orbit) is working on a new unheard Queen songs. It can be songs that we know, but thanks to William they will resound in new ways. |
GERRYISADICK 29.07.2014 11:34 |
How will they remix love kills? Will it be like on the tour or a different version |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 11:36 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: How will they remix love kills? Will it be like on the tour or a different versionArranged by Queen. |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 11:38 |
Roger told that Universal wanted from them compilation of songs which people knows not so well. I wonder if you guys trying to remember which songs people knows not so well. |
GERRYISADICK 29.07.2014 11:45 |
Well that excites me here in america the ballads are unknown maybe that may help boost their popularity or so i hope |
andyb1968 29.07.2014 11:50 |
I think the interest has been reignited in the States thanks to the success of the tour, its up to the record company to capitalise on this with a swift promotion of the album ! |
GERRYISADICK 29.07.2014 11:53 |
Well this is our chance to make up for the band "losing america" |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 12:19 |
From William Orbit Facebook page: Just to let you know that I am most definitely working with QUEEN. Amazing songs, but won't say any more for now. |
GERRYISADICK 29.07.2014 12:28 |
Well he should know everything queen is amazing! Except hot space |
Mr.QueenFan 29.07.2014 13:26 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: How will they remix love kills? Will it be like on the tour or a different versionLove Kills is already finished. Adam Lambert has stated throughout the tour that Brian sent him the new Queen version, and he said that they were going to perform that version. So, the new Queen version is the one they are doing with Adam Lambert on the current US tour. |
GERRYISADICK 29.07.2014 13:27 |
Ok |
inu-liger 29.07.2014 15:19 |
rocknrolllover wrote:I don't think that William tell what track he's now working.Of course not. Non-Disclosure Clauses are everywhere in the music industry. |
inu-liger 29.07.2014 15:21 |
jondickens1 wrote:When did Brian say there were only 3 tracks? One obvious track is Love Kills but the others (I heard on the interview on BBC Wales) were unheard tracks.Indeed, I'd also like to know where he has said this. This would have spread like wildfire like every other little thing that's been officially said so far about this project. |
andyb1968 29.07.2014 15:34 |
Google it guys, he said 3 from the mid 80's, got a feeling Orbit will be remixing existing Queen ballads, to fit the context of the album. |
GERRYISADICK 29.07.2014 16:07 |
If he does that i will be pissed |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 22:51 |
inu-liger wrote:What do you mean?rocknrolllover wrote:I don't think that William tell what track he's now working.Of course not. Non-Disclosure Clauses are everywhere in the music industry. |
GERRYISADICK 29.07.2014 22:53 |
He means he cant tell anybody details on the tracks |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 23:15 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: He means he cant tell anybody details on the tracksI know it already . But if I understand correctly, he is fully connected to work with Queen. |
GERRYISADICK 29.07.2014 23:16 |
Then what are you asking man? |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 23:22 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: Then what are you asking man?Nothing, dude. How are you doing?! |
GERRYISADICK 29.07.2014 23:26 |
Im good you? |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 23:27 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: Im good you?Not bad. |
GERRYISADICK 29.07.2014 23:29 |
How's where your living weather good? |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 23:32 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: How's where your living weather good?Hot, dude. |
rocknrolllover 29.07.2014 23:33 |
Self made nan IMHO potential song for new album. It's a ballad. But in terms of quality this song need to work. |
GERRYISADICK 29.07.2014 23:35 |
Hot here too |
andyb1968 30.07.2014 02:32 |
Could William Orbit be the new David Richards, and has worked on scraps of Queen songs to make a new track, as Richards did with you don't fool me ? |
rocknrolllover 30.07.2014 04:45 |
andyb1968 wrote: Could William Orbit be the new David Richards, and has worked on scraps of Queen songs to make a new track, as Richards did with you don't fool me ?everything's possible |
inu-liger 30.07.2014 05:06 |
Jefffab1995 wrote:Then what are you asking man?He's asking for a dunce cap |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 05:10 |
Morning inu! |
scottmax 30.07.2014 05:52 |
And as a little note, my tweet to Mr Orbit got me more retweets and favourited than I've ever had before! Thanks!! |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 05:56 |
Well mentioning queen might do that as interest in queen is higher than ever |
Mr.QueenFan 30.07.2014 06:29 |
inu-liger wrote:It got mentioned by me and others, but we gave up trying to make QZ an information site about Queen, because like all discussions, it went down the toillet real fast because nobody respects anything in this forum. But yes, Brian mentioned the three songs.jondickens1 wrote:When did Brian say there were only 3 tracks? One obvious track is Love Kills but the others (I heard on the interview on BBC Wales) were unheard tracks.Indeed, I'd also like to know where he has said this. This would have spread like wildfire like every other little thing that's been officially said so far about this project. |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 06:34 |
Mrqueenfan you are being a pessimist you need to take a chill pill man |
Chief Mouse 30.07.2014 06:38 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: Mrqueenfan you are being a pessimist you need to take a chill pill man He's rather being a realist. |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 06:41 |
Yes but taking things so seriously is stressful |
rocknrolllover 30.07.2014 08:09 |
inu-liger wrote:You are demonstrating bad attitude to me but I forgive you. Because isn't your fault that you are not taught good manners.Jefffab1995 wrote:Then what are you asking man?He's asking for a dunce cap |
andyb1968 30.07.2014 09:44 |
Bottom line, everybody is getting over excited about this album, it'll be another rehash with 3, if we're lucky 5 unheard tracks, which by the way is fine by me, I'm more excited by the rainbow release ( at long last), I think the Queen/Jacko stuff will be a seperate project. |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 11:19 |
^^^^ Ding! |
rocknrolllover 30.07.2014 13:00 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: ^^^^ Ding!Dong. Ding ding dong |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 13:02 |
Ding dong dong ding ding dong ding |
rocknrolllover 30.07.2014 13:06 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: Ding dong dong ding ding dong dingLol. Stop it ;-) |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 13:08 |
You redeemed yourself rocknrolllover you are a good man! |
rocknrolllover 30.07.2014 13:15 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: You redeemed yourself rocknrolllover you are a good man!Sarcasm? |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 13:21 |
I mean it I respect you and forgive you you are a cool guy. |
rocknrolllover 30.07.2014 13:22 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: I mean it I respect you and forgive you you are a cool guy.Thnx, dude. |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 13:24 |
Don't mention it my friend! |
scottmax 30.07.2014 14:20 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: You redeemed yourself rocknrolllover you are a good man!Please don't encourage him. The idiot shouldn't be allowed to post on here. Give him a day or two and he'll be back with his racist and homophobic slurs |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 14:31 |
No everyone can redeem themselves and he has |
andyb1968 30.07.2014 14:43 |
What's my ding ding dong got to do with anything ? |
rocknrolllover 30.07.2014 14:44 |
scottmax wrote:I'm glad that William didn't say what Queen track he's working.Jefffab1995 wrote: You redeemed yourself rocknrolllover you are a good man!Please don't encourage him. The idiot shouldn't be allowed to post on here. Give him a day or two and he'll be back with his racist and homophobic slurs I am afraid to disappoint you, but I'm not so bad person as you think. although you do not think, you say the first thing that came into your head. |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 14:50 |
He really has changed he is a better man scottmax maybe you are judging him |
rocknrolllover 30.07.2014 14:55 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: He really has changed he is a better man scottmax maybe you are judging himHe can do what he wants I don't care. |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 15:14 |
Yes you are a new man! |
scottmax 30.07.2014 15:20 |
The cretin has 'previous'. Nicey nicey for a few days then back to his normal bullshit. I'm sure I'm not alone in wondering how he's still allowed to post on here. How many of his posts actually relate to the topic? Maybe his first or second, then when he doesn't agree with someone he starts all over again. I'm not surprised that people who are considered knowledgable , just don't post on here anymore, mainly due to people like him |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 15:23 |
Give him a chance he is a human being we all make mistakes |
scottmax 30.07.2014 15:40 |
Sorry, he's made too many |
inu-liger 30.07.2014 15:41 |
scottmax wrote:And as a little note, my tweet to Mr Orbit got me more retweets and favourited than I've ever had before! Thanks!!Very nice! |
inu-liger 30.07.2014 15:42 |
Mr.QueenFan wrote:Could you provide a link to a source? Not really asking for much here, please and thanks :)inu-liger wrote:It got mentioned by me and others, but we gave up trying to make QZ an information site about Queen, because like all discussions, it went down the toillet real fast because nobody respects anything in this forum. But yes, Brian mentioned the three songs.jondickens1 wrote:When did Brian say there were only 3 tracks? One obvious track is Love Kills but the others (I heard on the interview on BBC Wales) were unheard tracks.Indeed, I'd also like to know where he has said this. This would have spread like wildfire like every other little thing that's been officially said so far about this project. |
inu-liger 30.07.2014 15:43 |
Chief Mouse wrote:Indeed. This forum's quality has sunk just as low as Rob Ford pre-"rehab," and if anything is in pretty dire need of a kind of rehab in itself.Jefffab1995 wrote: Mrqueenfan you are being a pessimist you need to take a chill pill manHe's rather being a realist. |
inu-liger 30.07.2014 15:44 |
andyb1968 wrote:What's my ding ding dong got to do with anything ?Is there a connection between Chuck Berry and this forum? :P |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 15:45 |
Oh how is mr ford gettin high with a towel? |
inu-liger 30.07.2014 15:47 |
scottmax wrote:The cretin has 'previous'. Nicey nicey for a few days then back to his normal bullshit.That's pathological behaviour for you. I have an in-law who is like this, but much worse. Thank god we could actually cut them off, unlike QZ who can't seem to do the same at the administrative level *nudge nudge* I'm not surprised that people who are considered knowledgable , just don't post on here anymore, mainly due to people like himAnd due to the fact this site is way too loose with the freedom of speech B.S. |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 15:49 |
Give him a chance please! |
scottmax 30.07.2014 15:53 |
inu-liger wrote:Thanks!scottmax wrote:And as a little note, my tweet to Mr Orbit got me more retweets and favourited than I've ever had before! Thanks!!Very nice! I'm surprised no one else had asked him to be honest. I salute him for replying! |
scottmax 30.07.2014 15:54 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: Give him a chance please!No |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 15:56 |
He is a human with human feelings you dont know how much you may have hurt him |
The Real Wizard 30.07.2014 16:18 |
Vocal harmony wrote: William Orbit is just what "Queen" need. He isn't a yes man. His approach is different to what they've had in the past. This can only be good. IMO, during the mid 80's the band were so big and successful that anyone who was sitting in the producers chair was probably having to agree or at least compromise with ideas that maybe were questionable.Bingo. And this happened with plenty of others, too. Could you imagine being the producer while McCartney was in his lull in the 80s, having to smile and nod while he clunked out a yet another cheesy derivative ballad? Could you be that guy who said, "No Paul, it actually sucks" ? Or Bob Dylan ? If I want a cheque with my name on it, it's a great song Mr. Zimmerman. I love it. Even the best songwriters have their creative peaks and troughs, and most of them try to find their way out of it with varying success. |
Kevinrm15 30.07.2014 21:08 |
Paul made some good ballads in the 80's. Just listen to the original version of "Beautiful Night" or "Loveliest Thing" |
rocknrolllover 30.07.2014 23:09 |
i've made a mistakes so few or so many, it really doesn't matter to me. And you know what, i don't really care what you think about me. And you know what, I know that I've no made a mistakes at all. |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 23:22 |
Yes you are a good man you deserve a second chance and i have given you one and you have surprised me keep up the good work I'm pullin for you man! |
rocknrolllover 30.07.2014 23:23 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: Yes you are a good man you deserve a second chance and i have given you one and you have surprised me keep up the good work I'm pullin for you man!Thnx, dude. Rock on! |
rocknrolllover 30.07.2014 23:23 |
Jefffab1995 wrote: Yes you are a good man you deserve a second chance and i have given you one and you have surprised me keep up the good work I'm pullin for you man!Thnx, dude. Rock on! |
rocknrolllover 30.07.2014 23:26 |
Oops, double post. My bad! |
GERRYISADICK 30.07.2014 23:35 |
You are a great man everyone needs to see it! |
inu-liger 31.07.2014 01:40 |
One step towards being a "great man" would be to publicly own up to the trolling, bigotry and fighting that he created, apologize sincerely for said behaviour, and refrain from that type of behaviour. As far as many of us are currently concerned, he does not deserve a place on this board until he has admitted to his bad behaviour and learns to disown it. If he can do that, and turn over a new leaf to PROVE himself over a period of time, I may consider dropping the campaigns to get him banned. |
rocknrolllover 31.07.2014 01:59 |
Amen |
inu-liger 31.07.2014 02:56 |
That was specifically aimed at you |
Vocal harmony 31.07.2014 09:52 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Bingo. And this happened with plenty of others, too. Could you imagine being the producer while McCartney was in his lull in the 80s, Even the best songwriters have their creative peaks and troughs, and most of them try to find their way out of it with varying success.I think it takes a huge amount of realisation sometimes to be aware that what you're creating isn't what it should be. At that level you're maybe in that bubble where you lose track of what you should be trying to achieve and also what your audience really wants to hear. Of course you can't be a slave to expectations but you also need to bend the other way too. I think very view artists in the upper legue put material out that they don't have a certain amount of belief and faith in. I think very view would sit there had have the attitude of, that will do or I can't be bothered. That is where a producer, with a tough attitude towards what been created is what is needed. Because a duff song or album doesn't just reflect on the artist but also the guy in the chair. It's that balance between effort and the easy pay cheque! |
Mr.QueenFan 31.07.2014 09:54 |
inu-liger wrote:Here it is:Mr.QueenFan wrote:Could you provide a link to a source? Not really asking for much here, please and thanks :)inu-liger wrote:It got mentioned by me and others, but we gave up trying to make QZ an information site about Queen, because like all discussions, it went down the toillet real fast because nobody respects anything in this forum. But yes, Brian mentioned the three songs.jondickens1 wrote:When did Brian say there were only 3 tracks? One obvious track is Love Kills but the others (I heard on the interview on BBC Wales) were unheard tracks.Indeed, I'd also like to know where he has said this. This would have spread like wildfire like every other little thing that's been officially said so far about this project. from Brian's soapboax: Letter to Queen Fan club members. Last paragraph he mentions "at least three previously unheard tracks with Freddie singing" link -------------------------------------- -------------------------------- And here are some interestic topics in QZ: link About the MJ tracks: link ------------------- ------------------- So, in the end we have "at least" three Freddie new songs, and possibly up to four Freddie+MJ new songs on the next Queen record. |
Kevinrm15 08.08.2014 10:58 |
Brian just confirmed yesterday that Let Me In Your Heart Again will be on the new album |
Mr.QueenFan 08.08.2014 14:31 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: Brian just confirmed yesterday that Let Me In Your Heart Again will be on the new albumIndeed, and he also confirmed the Michael Jackson tracks. Here's a link: Skip to 17:35m for this information link |
Apocalipsis_Darko 08.08.2014 15:42 |
It will be a compilation of ballads with five inedit tracks at the end... |
Apocalipsis_Darko 08.08.2014 15:43 |
For that, I would prefer a ep with the inedit tracks. Or the famous box set with rareties. |
tero! 48531 08.08.2014 23:58 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: For that, I would prefer a ep with the inedit tracks. Or the famous box set with rareties.You never know... If we're really lucky, Brian will listen to you and drop the unreleased tracks from this album. There is after all a box set scheduled in |
cmsdrums 09.08.2014 15:46 |
What do we think the lead single will be; Love Kills or one of the Jackson tracks?? |
shamar 09.08.2014 16:08 |
"Let me in" or "More to life". I bet that mythical "Victory" is bad song. |
EDWOOD 09.08.2014 20:03 |
At least it's something and more then we've had in most of the years since 1996. I suppose when you look at it this year IS a good one for Queen fans. We're finally getting a 70s concert released and it looks like they've spared no expense or effort in creating a worthy product fitting for the band. 2 or is it 3 concerts and multiple types of release - 1CD, 2CD, blu ray, DVD, vinyls and comprehensive boxset with nearly everything included that you could ask for. I know Greg Brooks comes in for some stick on here and elsewhere, but I'm sure his work is behind this release and possibly also behind the some of the tracks on this 'Queen Forever' release. It seems from listening to that recent podcast and the fact that he had collated a much better singles boxset back in 2006 (?) compared to what was actually released (the four smaller boxes we ended up with) that he had done plenty of work over the years and QP have hardly used any of this material except for the live releases. A very small sample of tracks Greg has found over the years were used on the 'deluxe' 2nd disc of reissued studio albums in 2011 so he does appear productive behind the scenes. He may in fact be as impatient as we are to see QP open the archive to the wider world. What I'm kind of saying is that no matter how many tracks we're getting this year on Queen Forever, at least it will be genuinely unheard music which is great for any of us here surely. Sure I'd love a full album of unreleased material but maybe if this release is successful, it may push them into doing other archival projects and maybe the anthologies are nearer to finally seeing release then they were previously. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 10.08.2014 01:53 |
Greg Brooks does his work very well, that's not the problem. I think is more complex....discography, manager, etc....Queen now is a company, like all classic bands, alive or not, such as The Doors, Aerosmith, etc... |
Heavenite 10.08.2014 03:11 |
cmsdrums wrote: What do we think the lead single will be; Love Kills or one of the Jackson tracks??I would definitely think it would be a Jacko track! America is too big to ignore! So one as the single and one you get when you get the album. And for the song "Victory" we might need to wait for the next Queen album release, coz Brian says there are only going to be two MJ tracks on Queen Forever! PS That's still a really shit title!....lol! |
Heavenite 10.08.2014 03:17 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Wasn't Eric Stewart, formerly of The Mindbenders and 10CC involved with producing McCartney in the 80"s? I doubt he would have been a "yes sir, no sir, three bags full producer" Might just be that McCartney (and Eric) were past their creative peak!Vocal harmony wrote: William Orbit is just what "Queen" need. He isn't a yes man. His approach is different to what they've had in the past. This can only be good. IMO, during the mid 80's the band were so big and successful that anyone who was sitting in the producers chair was probably having to agree or at least compromise with ideas that maybe were questionable.Bingo. And this happened with plenty of others, too. Could you imagine being the producer while McCartney was in his lull in the 80s, having to smile and nod while he clunked out a yet another cheesy derivative ballad? Could you be that guy who said, "No Paul, it actually sucks" ? Or Bob Dylan ? If I want a cheque with my name on it, it's a great song Mr. Zimmerman. I love it. Even the best songwriters have their creative peaks and troughs, and most of them try to find their way out of it with varying success. |
shamar 10.08.2014 05:49 |
Heavenite wrote: And for the song "Victory" we might need to wait for the next Queen album release, coz Brian says there are only going to be two MJ tracks on Queen Forever!He said - a couple. Not "two". But if it'll be "ballad album" then "State of shock" doesn't fit in any way. So probably "Victory" is slow song as "More to life than this". |
Apocalipsis_Darko 10.08.2014 08:16 |
Well, Mack and missed David Richard produced them with suggestions and things in all the albums they produced for them. Not forgetting is also involved Chris Thomas in the produccion. |
Kamenliter 10.08.2014 13:03 |
Shamar wrote: He said - a couple. Not "two" A couple is two (a 'few' is three or more), although in colloquial speaking, he could have meant three. |
shamar 10.08.2014 15:36 |
"he could have meant three. " That's what I'm talking about. Ofcourse it can be two but musn't be ;) |
Heavenite 10.08.2014 21:16 |
shamar wrote:Brian's a pretty precise kind of guy, so if he says a couple, I would be a bit surprised if we got all three songs on the album, but you never know I guess. But then again, maximising the use of MJ tracks does sort of make sense, especially now that Brian has intimated that there could be more Queen albums coming via the use of ProTools.Heavenite wrote: And for the song "Victory" we might need to wait for the next Queen album release, coz Brian says there are only going to be two MJ tracks on Queen Forever!He said - a couple. Not "two". But if it'll be "ballad album" then "State of shock" doesn't fit in any way. So probably "Victory" is slow song as "More to life than this". I take your point about the use of Victory rather than A State of Shock on a ballad album, I only thought if Victory hasn't been heard at all, then keeping it as the shot in the locker for further down the track might be what they were planning, |
mike hunt 11.08.2014 04:35 |
Mr.QueenFan wrote:Thanks for the link, Brian doesn't sound so thrilled with the Michael Jackson songs. I think this release will be disappointing from what we were expecting a few months ago, but its Good to hear eddie and Brian talk about queens influence on heavy music.Kevinrm15 wrote: Brian just confirmed yesterday that Let Me In Your Heart Again will be on the new albumIndeed, and he also confirmed the Michael Jackson tracks. Here's a link: Skip to 17:35m for this information link |
shamar 11.08.2014 05:32 |
Heavenite wrote: Brian's a pretty precise kind of guy, so if he says a couple, I would be a bit surprised if we got all three songs on the album, ...I think there's option 3 ;) * More to life than this (2014 Queen version) - solo Fred vocals * More to life than this (2014 Queen version) (ft. MJ) - the same or remixed. And here we got... 2 MJ songs ;) PS - to be honest I don't believe that MJ tracks will be included. They probably won't "make deal" with Jacksons and these tracks'll be skipped. |
akan 11.08.2014 06:12 |
I don't care at all about the MJ tracks, ok it would be fun to listen to State of Shock in high audio quality but it is not something that add so much at the Queen discography. I thknk the MJ tracks should have been released in the FM collection since they're not "queen" tracks and it would have been one good more reaseon to buy the box set, since there are a lot of useless things on that release (like the "karaoke" cd with no vocals.....) Honestly a 100% Queen album would sound a lot better to me. |
cmsdrums 11.08.2014 06:13 |
shamar wrote:Nice idea - it would be good to have a solely Queen version (ie just Fred's vocals), and also the version featuring MJ too.Heavenite wrote: Brian's a pretty precise kind of guy, so if he says a couple, I would be a bit surprised if we got all three songs on the album, ...I think there's option 3 ;) * More to life than this (2014 Queen version) - solo Fred vocals * More to life than this (2014 Queen version) (ft. MJ) - the same or remixed. And here we got... 2 MJ songs ;) PS - to be honest I don't believe that MJ tracks will be included. They probably won't "make deal" with Jacksons and these tracks'll be skipped. I am interested to see if they use Freddie's final 'Mr Bad Guy' vocal, or if they mix it up by using some of the alternative versions found on the FM box set, or even some as yet unheard alternative vocal takes. |
EDWOOD 11.08.2014 11:40 |
If they can use one or more MJ track on this album then they will definately. If we assume that the complicated legal work has been sorted out between QP, MJ's estate and presumably Universal/Island Records they would be mad to not include at least one track. I'm speaking from a purely commercial view of course. Whether the tracks should be used on a 'Queen' album I'm not so sure but it has been done before, especially on Greatest Hits 3 where we had the dubious delights of Wyclef Jean to contend with as well as the Elton John live performance of TSMGO. Plus of course solo tracks. A track/s with MJ would increase the promotional aspect and sales well above what they would have been otherwise IMO. Even taking away the sales of some Queen fans who are adamant that they won't buy something including MJ will mean little compared to how many extra purchases you'll get from MJ fans. Plus the potential for this release to be picked up more by 'Joe Public' who otherwise might not bother as they almost definately have Queen hits albums in their collections. If they see on the cover, 'For the first time ever, 2 of the biggest music acts together at last!', compulsive purchases will make a tidy profit. Whether we get all the MJ material on this album, or if some is being saved for something later down the pipeline, or if the MJ estate themselves have rights to release some of it, only time will tell. We should know a lot more by the end of September by the latest. Unless of course the release is put back for a letter date. |
shamar 11.08.2014 14:22 |
cmsdrums wrote: I am interested to see if they use Freddie's final 'Mr Bad Guy' vocal, or if they mix it up by using some of the alternative versions found on the FM box set, or even some as yet unheard alternative vocal takes.They're too lazy to using "alternative" vocals ;) And BTW - what about MJ vocals? Those known from demo(s) are poor. MJ sings there so weak (?). It sounds like one of very first (or simply first) take on that song. EDWOOD wrote: A track/s with MJ would increase the promotional aspect and sales well (...) how many extra purchases you'll get from MJ fans. date.I'm not so sure. It's potentialy 2 new tracks for them. And just one absolutly new. You know. Some of them boycot "Michael" release. Some weren't happy with "Xscape". |
Heavenite 12.08.2014 09:37 |
Hi Shamar Re Jacko's vocals on available demos being poor, I agree! But treating the vocal would not be I wouldn;t think. So the end product may well be quite acceptable! I'm sure some Jacko fans did boycott Xscape! I mean sales of that album were not a patch on previous albums of his! But say a really good track that they haven't heared lauched as a single such as There' More to Life Than This mightget a lot of them back in I think. |
Chief Mouse 12.08.2014 10:01 |
shamar wrote:cmsdrums wrote: I am interested to see if they use Freddie's final 'Mr Bad Guy' vocal, or if they mix it up by using some of the alternative versions found on the FM box set, or even some as yet unheard alternative vocal takes.They're too lazy to using "alternative" vocals ;) And BTW - what about MJ vocals? Those known from demo(s) are poor. MJ sings there so weak (?). It sounds like one of very first (or simply first) take on that song.EDWOOD wrote: A track/s with MJ would increase the promotional aspect and sales well (...) how many extra purchases you'll get from MJ fans. date.I'm not so sure. It's potentialy 2 new tracks for them. And just one absolutly new. You know. Some of them boycot "Michael" release. Some weren't happy with "Xscape". Well, there was a good reason why 'Michael' was boycotted. Most fans thought (and still think) a handful of songs were sung by a soundalike. Basically fake. Most fans received Xscape well. I think the Jackson fans would definitely buy the album and help boost the sales if it contained the duet songs. |
shamar 12.08.2014 15:51 |
Heavenite wrote: Hi Shamar Re Jacko's vocals on available demos being poor, I agree! But treating the vocal would not be I wouldn;t think. So the end product may well be quite acceptable!Yep. :) It might be. I don't know, is it just me, but that small part from "Days of our lives" documentary sounds better and different? Chief Mouse wrote: Well, there was a good reason why 'Michael' was boycotted. Most fans thought (and still think) a handful of songs were sung by a soundalike. Basically fake. .Yes, I know but (if it's true) they got 3 fake songs and 7 original MJ songs which sounds "close to originals". On "Xscape" there're mostly very different "renewed" remixes (ways from demos) |
Heavenite 13.08.2014 08:42 |
Gee what a rort if those Jacko tracks really are fake! Can't rule it out I guess. They shoulda just put out a shorter album, or got Brian to do them a 30 minute hidden track at the end to creep all Jacko's fans out.....lol! |