QueenZone discussion #1388738
2014 set list
| ANAGRAMER 03.07.2014 15:22 |
The 2014 set is great for USA and fans of the older tracks but wouldn't it be good to hear some of the rare cuts from The Miracle, Innuendo of even Made In Heaven (for the first time live) Perhaps if the tour gets to Europe... |
| mooghead 03.07.2014 15:33 |
Yeah but then it would be a case of 'why are they playing rare cuts from the recent albums? How are they supposed to get the crowds in?' Damned if you do...... |
| mooghead 03.07.2014 15:34 |
recent = later... |
| inu-liger 03.07.2014 16:15 |
What surprised me is how fast they settled on a formula for the setlist. I'd been expecting them to be very experimental with the setlist based on the setlist behaviours of the previous tours (Edmonton for instance added in the Bass Solo which has stayed so far, and we had half of DSMN there, and the full version in Calgary...), but it's been pretty much more or less set in stone already! |
| matt z 03.07.2014 17:29 |
Hopefully there will be variations. Keep ya posted on tonight's set. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 03.07.2014 17:44 |
Is obvious in USA tour they do that greatest hits set list. I think, if they tour in Europe, they will play more unknown songs. |
| scottmax 03.07.2014 18:50 |
I think if they come to Europe you'll get much the same. The first half of the set list is class, then you get the same old songs in the second half. If you've seen them play before it all becomes a bit stale. That's my opinion anyway.... |
| FlorianS 04.07.2014 01:59 |
I think that a European Tour will see IWTBF and AKOM for sure. I would love to see Innuendo and a couple of other tracks from the later records, but I doubt that this will happen. As for the older stuff I still hope for some changes...would love to see spread your wings in the set. I doubt that they will give us the really 'rare' stuff like it's late or sleeping on the sidewalk. |
| Benn Kempster 04.07.2014 05:24 |
Experimentation will be very limited - don't get your hopes up. Remember there is a complicated lighting system / program that relies heavily on a structured set. The likelihood of there being anything different is incredibly slim. You're not going to get a Springsteen show here folks........... |
| philip storey 04.07.2014 07:44 |
Thank god its not a Springsteen show three and a half hours of American flag waving and Dancing In The Dark ! |
| dudeofqueen 04.07.2014 08:52 |
Philip, have you ever BEEN to a Springsteen show? There's never a point at which you know what you're going to hear from song to song, night to night. Its an absolute revelation watching Bruce call out songs to the band off the cuff. But you can only do that if the 'production' allows you to do it and Queen's elaborate light show doesn't; it restricts them from doing anything different or making spontaneous change..........pretty much everything that makes live music so exciting, eh?! . |
| Vocal harmony 04.07.2014 09:55 |
Benn Kempster wrote: Experimentation will be very limited - don't get your hopes up. Remember there is a complicated lighting system / program that relies heavily on a structured set. The likelihood of there being anything different is incredibly slim. You're not going to get a Springsteen show here folks...........The complicated lighting system, which in truth is not over complex is not a reason for them to change songs around, drop or add as they please. They are already doing it with Don't Stop Me Now and the Bass solo, both need to be lit and weren't in the set for the first show. The lighting used by NIN on their recent European dates is far more complex both in structure and in the way it was used. They rarely played two shows in a row that were the same, and often added new songs for one or two shows then replaced them with something different. If you knew anything about how a computerised system works you would know that lighting cues are loaded into the system one song at a time, the operator can then call up which ever song is being played, the band add or take out a song and the lighting guy dies the same. Also their are override options on a lighting board, so if BM want to play a longer intro to something or they decide to jam a little the lights can still be operated to suit |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 04.07.2014 11:21 |
Bruce Springsteen in concert is amazing. You can like or not his music, but in concert....woooh. |
| Richard Orchard 04.07.2014 14:34 |
pretty typical that they have now got into playing the same setlist over and over again. lots of hints that things will be mixed up a bit but never really delivers in this regard. seems to be the same way every tour. |
| dudeofqueen 05.07.2014 01:49 |
>pretty typical Absolutely. They're already aware of what they are comfortable with playing, what works and what doesn't. They won't be prepared to takethe risk of something being added and turning in to a disaster. It wasn't even a tactic they employed when Freddie was alive so there's no chance of them doing it now. |
| Wiley 05.07.2014 13:08 |
The first ten shows with Paul Rodgers had more variations. They didn't have a problem trying out songs like Little bit of love and then dropping them. After that, it was the same old thing until they added Under Pressure for the UK shows. Sadly, the experimentation was mostly limited to Paul's songs. |
| Wiley 05.07.2014 13:10 |
They should bring back songs they have successfully played with Adam already.. WWRY fast, Keep Yourself Alive, etc. I don't see them changing much of tthe second half of the show. I wish Brian maybe added something to his acoustic set... |
| Vocal harmony 06.07.2014 07:42 |
I think the current setlist flows really well. It also covers the classic 70's priod. It's certainly a better set than what they were playing with PR. |
| Ivo-1976 06.07.2014 09:29 |
Great setlist indeed. But not much variation between shows. They could fun around a bit more. |
| Benn Kempster 07.07.2014 02:12 |
And promoting the Rainbow releases will take care of the material gleaned from their early years. |
| The King Of Rhye 07.07.2014 08:30 |
Queen, back in the old days, never really changed the setlist a TON from concert to concert on a particular tour anyway, aside from dropping a song, or adding a song here and there...............they never were like the aforementioned Springsteen.............like the 'Live Killers' era tour.........that setlist was pretty much set in stone |
| dudeofqueen 07.07.2014 10:52 |
>never really changed the setlist a TON from concert to concert on a particular tour anyway Yep - safety first in all things on the live stage. Make sure that the record company / management are kept happy at all times with the selections from Greatest Hits volumes. So many bands are guilty of it sadly and, somehow, Springsteen has remained completely in charge of what he plays, when and where throughout his career and THAT is to be applauded. |
| Sunshine 08.07.2014 14:58 |
I totally disagree. From a musicians point of view, it makes sense to stick to a given setlist and alter it slightly. Please don't forget they are entertainers and the audience's satisfaction comes first. Only 1% of the audience is actually like us, looking up set lists and complain about it on a forum. 99% is going after that nights experience. You can't compare Springsteen, apples and pears. |
| FlorianS 11.07.2014 05:49 |
A couple of years ago I read in a German Heavy Metal magazine that Metallica wanted to change their setlist hours before the gig, but it was impossible as all the lightining and effects are programmed and to switch these is a massive piece of work. So also the technical side is a matter. |
| Vocal harmony 11.07.2014 10:42 |
FlorianS wrote: A couple of years ago I read in a German Heavy Metal magazine that Metallica wanted to change their setlist hours before the gig, but it was impossible as all the lightining and effects are programmed and to switch these is a massive piece of work. So also the technical side is a matter.Not sure how true comments like this are. If it's true, then it reflects badly on the lighting operator running a show that is that dependent on programed switching. Normally with a computerized desk, the lighting changes each song would be loaded in under the name of the song or a number, the same system is used for computerized auto mixes of the live sound. The lad thing you would want to do is click go on a mouse and then relax and put your feet up on the desk and watch the whole show run it's self. If each song is loaded separately you can then call up that song on the board when it's played, if a song is dropped or added it isn't a problem, if a band member wants rpto chat to the audience or solo for a few bars more than the night before that isn't a problem either. Some bands are big on set pieces, like Kiss or Metallica's pyro intro to One, which would be the same every night for both visual and safety points. But there is still room for changes to be made to what is played from night to night. |
| The Real Wizard 11.07.2014 15:43 |
^ this. |
| cpc98 18.07.2014 14:25 |
philip storey wrote: Thank god its not a Springsteen show three and a half hours of American flag waving and Dancing In The Dark !Springsteen is unbelievably amazing in concert. I've seen him 12 times, each time he played a completely different show with plenty of audience interaction (sign requests, crowd surfing, etc.) The flag waving hasn't happened since BITUSA. I don't know why you're referring to something that was 30 years ago. |
| softcalavera2 21.07.2014 20:00 |
Last night, the Columbia show i saw the setlist..and "the show must go on" was out of the list.....why? i thank that the gig was short , but now is shorter (dont stop me now - the show must go on both of them are out). |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 21.07.2014 20:46 |
Well, Phiip, if you know it, Born In The USA is a critic to USA Vietnam war....double sense...you get it? |
| Equant 21.07.2014 21:55 |
They had to finish early, so cutter the list |