andyb1968 02.07.2014 09:11 |
With the debate split between QAL lovers and haters on here, my mind was cast back to quite a while ago when Brian & Roger recorded a version of watc with Robbie Williams, Roger said they had talked and got seriously close to going on tour ! How would we all have felt about that ? My personal feeling then, and now is that a lot of the Queen cannon of work he just couldn't have done justice to, and also he would have gone down the Freddie karaoke route, if you watch him on stage he desperately wants to be Fred, sawn off mic stand, all the mincing around stage ! No not for me, what do we think ? |
thomasquinn 32989 02.07.2014 09:55 |
Not for me, either. Nor George Michael. Nor Adam Lambert. Because I simply don't like the way they sing. Not Paul Rodgers either because that just didn't really work for me either, even though I do like his voice. A number of vocalists could probably do the songs justice, but that just wouldn't be as good as the originals. If Brian and Roger are going to keep at it with new vocalists, I would prefer it if they did so with new material. |
winterspelt 02.07.2014 10:22 |
I have seen Robbie a few times live and I have never seen Robbie trying to be or even act relatively similar to Freddie. I think some Queen songs would be amazing for Robbie's style but, just like Paul, he would not be able to sing the whole catalog of songs. Also, both Paul and Robbie have a very strong personality with lots of years behind, it would end very much like Q+PR. With that in mind, I think Adam is a better choice: He can deal with most songs, he is growing like a frontman and to some extent, Adam is taking lots of lessons from Brian and Roger's experience, and they can even suggest how Adam should perform and adapt his style to Queen. Something Robbie would not accept. That's my opinion. |
Day dop 02.07.2014 10:46 |
Queen+ Norman Wisdom. |
andyb1968 02.07.2014 11:06 |
Queen+Dale Winton now that's camp ! |
scottmax 02.07.2014 13:03 |
I wouldn't have minded seeing what Robbie could do. Not a whole tour but maybe a few shows. I'd rather him than PR any day. After 2 huge tours Paul Rodgers still needed an auotcue for most of the Queen stuff he sang |
matt z 02.07.2014 13:06 |
Queen+ Tony Dow |
flash00. 02.07.2014 16:20 |
With regards to Brian and Roger touring etc back then with Norman I mean Robbie lol Roger stated clearly it would never have worked as Robbie is not a team player. |
andyb1968 02.07.2014 16:22 |
'' not a team player'' very true, didn't Gary Barlow say something similar when he bailed from Take That ? |
Apocalipsis_Darko 02.07.2014 16:23 |
Queen + George Michael in the 90's only... Or with Peter Straker. |
Holly2003 02.07.2014 19:50 |
Williams is an odious little turd and I would take Lambert over him any day of the week. |
andyb1968 03.07.2014 02:00 |
Come on say what you think Holly ! |
snelly1 03.07.2014 03:02 |
Queen + Danny La Rue -- |
Supersonic_Man89 03.07.2014 04:13 |
Williams has no where near the vocal range that it would take to tour with Queen. He's a great showman when live, but not a great singer. |
thomasquinn 32989 03.07.2014 05:29 |
Supersonic_Man89 wrote: Williams has no where near the vocal range that it would take to tour with Queen. He's a great showman when live, but not a great singer.In full honesty - Freddie was a great showman but not a great singer on tour quite a lot of the time. Wembley '86 is a great example. |
pittrek 03.07.2014 05:47 |
Their version of We Are The Champions was horrible. Even when I have to admit I liked some of Brian's new guitar bits. But anyway I'd like to hear the rest of the stuff they recorded just for the curiosity factor |
Doga 03.07.2014 06:01 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:Leiden 86 says hello. One of the worst qualities of Queen was record an inapropiate gig of the tour, or maybe they were nervous BECAUSE they were recording the gig.Supersonic_Man89 wrote: Williams has no where near the vocal range that it would take to tour with Queen. He's a great showman when live, but not a great singer.In full honesty - Freddie was a great showman but not a great singer on tour quite a lot of the time. Wembley '86 is a great example. But some things are Queen fault, party hard the night before the iconic gig wasn't a good idea, fight with the director of the movie in Canada wasn't a good idea... again. Don't properly record Budokan 75, and don't film Sao Paulo 81 and Knebworth 86 were definitly bad ideas. Add the lost of the original Budapest film and the Montreal outtakes to the list. Queen were lacking in preserving their live gigs, still better than Led or Floyd, though. |
scottmax 03.07.2014 12:34 |
pittrek wrote: Their version of We Are The Champions was horrible. Even when I have to admit I liked some of Brian's new guitar bits. But anyway I'd like to hear the rest of the stuff they recorded just for the curiosity factorI didn't realise they'd recorded more? Is that rumours or fact? |
pittrek 03.07.2014 12:43 |
I can't find the interview right now but I remember an interview with Brian from the beginning of this century where he mentioned they recorded "some stuff" with Robbie Williams but in the end the only thing that got released was the WATC cover ... I hope I'll be able to find it online EDIT So I didn't find the interview I was hoping for, but I found several different interviews and it looks like they recorded several different VERSIONS of WATC. And they WANTED to record more stuff with him. Sorry for the miss-information. |
andyb1968 03.07.2014 13:10 |
Brian recorded a track with Robbie, but he played acoustic on it, it was a double a-side track, but for the life of me I can't remember what its called ? |
brENsKi 03.07.2014 13:20 |
Queen & Dolly Parton then Brian could claim they were doing it "For Queen and Country" |
pittrek 03.07.2014 13:25 |
andyb1968 wrote: Brian recorded a track with Robbie, but he played acoustic on it, it was a double a-side track, but for the life of me I can't remember what its called ?You mean Eternity? |
andyb1968 03.07.2014 13:37 |
Eternity...........that's the one :-) |
noorie 03.07.2014 14:40 |
brENsKi wrote: Queen & Dolly Parton then Brian could claim they were doing it "For Queen and Country"^^^ lol! |
matt z 03.07.2014 18:22 |
Never got over him doing that Freddie "teeth" joke on Jay Leno. .. he was all braggadocio instead of being humble. Might have happened. If I remember correctly he was testing out quite a few of the band's songs on one of his U.S. tours |
scottmax 03.07.2014 19:02 |
matt z wrote: Never got over him doing that Freddie "teeth" joke on Jay Leno. .. he was all braggadocio instead of being humble. Might have happened. If I remember correctly he was testing out quite a few of the band's songs on one of his U.S. toursAny ideas which Queen songs he performed on the US tours? I know he's done WWRY several times but hadn't realised he'd done others |
Band Forever 04.07.2014 07:40 |
Williams is a total C. U. N..ext T..uesday. Name drops at the drop of a hat to give himself kudos. Cannot understand how he is so popular in the U.K. Vocally all over the place like fat middle aged drunk trying to karoke on a Saturday Night. |
Stelios 05.07.2014 04:56 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:I don't know how subjective is that but even on Wembley '86 Freddie is a great singer.Supersonic_Man89 wrote: Williams has no where near the vocal range that it would take to tour with Queen. He's a great showman when live, but not a great singer.In full honesty - Freddie was a great showman but not a great singer on tour quite a lot of the time. Wembley '86 is a great example. Not hitting the high notes is one thing,but a great singer consists of so much more and Freddie had them "built in". |
thomasquinn 32989 05.07.2014 05:35 |
No, he was a great showman and a great artist because of the "so much more". Being a great singer is purely a matter of technical competence, and Freddie was not consistently great live. He was never a BAD singer, but I've heard plenty of shows (I have well over 50 analog bootleg tapes of concert recordings, plus I've heard a great many of the bootlegs shared over the internet) and feel perfectly justified in concluding that Freddie was in INCONSISTENT singer live, ranging from decent to brilliant. Freddie would be near the top if not at the top of my list of greatest PERFORMERS, but he definitely wouldn't be near the top of my list of greatest LIVE SINGERS. |
Supersonic_Man89 05.07.2014 09:57 |
Although i will say i don't think Leiden is anything special, especially by Freddie's standards. He's just not as restricted with his voice as the rest of the tour but i don't think he's great. Who Wants To Live Forever is an example of his voice not being able to cope with the song, which i assume is why he sang it in a different key in other performances. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 07.07.2014 18:08 |
I can't understand why is so overrated Peter Straker... |
Costa86 11.07.2014 06:00 |
winterspelt wrote: I have seen Robbie a few times live and I have never seen Robbie trying to be or even act relatively similar to Freddie. I think some Queen songs would be amazing for Robbie's style but, just like Paul, he would not be able to sing the whole catalog of songs. Also, both Paul and Robbie have a very strong personality with lots of years behind, it would end very much like Q+PR. With that in mind, I think Adam is a better choice: He can deal with most songs, he is growing like a frontman and to some extent, Adam is taking lots of lessons from Brian and Roger's experience, and they can even suggest how Adam should perform and adapt his style to Queen. Something Robbie would not accept. That's my opinion.Robbie himself mentioned in an interview that his whole persona as a performer is modelled on Freddie's. |