Trident Studios wrote: It is with great sadness Norman Sheffield founder of Trident Studios passed away peacefully yesterday. He will be deeply missed by all.
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splicksplack wrote:
His book is worth a read. Puts a whole new slant on Death On Two Legs.
John Deacon seemed to be very grateful for what he did for Queen.
I am lost.
Is this the man Death On Two Legs was written about?
And how Freddie despised him so much when, as mentioned above, Deacon was very grateful for what he did for Queen
andyb1968 wrote: He incidentally gave us one of my favourite songs DOTL, Fred will have a few choice words for him when he gets up there ! R.I.P.
Gets up there? If the band are to be believed, Norman Sheffield is headed to go in the downward direction - £200 between the four each week hardly seems fair, and it was thanks to Sheffield.
andyb1968 wrote:
He incidentally gave us one of my favourite songs DOTL
I'll have a(nother) Captain Obvious moment but: no, he didn't; Freddie did. Norman was, allegedly, the person about whom the song was written, but he wasn't the one who wrote the song, therefore he was not the one who 'gave [you]' DOTL, same way Marilyn Monroe didn't write 'Candle in the Wind', Freddie Mercury didn't write 'No-One But You' and John Lennon didn't write 'Life Is Real.'
Had Freddie's mum and dad never met, no song; had a drunk driver killed Fred (or Norman) five years earlier (or even five weeks earlier), no song. We could make loads of people 'incidentally' responsible for that, that's completely irrelevant.
The song is Freddie's, he's the one who 'gave it' to us.
This has turned into something very philosophical and existential... a vicious circle.. DOTL would not have existed without either of them.. at that moment in time... like everything else in the history of the universe....
Carry on...
andyb1968 wrote:
He incidentally gave us one of my favourite songs DOTL
I'll have a(nother) Captain Obvious moment but: no, he didn't; Freddie did. Norman was, allegedly, the person about whom the song was written, but he wasn't the one who wrote the song, therefore he was not the one who 'gave [you]' DOTL, same way Marilyn Monroe didn't write 'Candle in the Wind', Freddie Mercury didn't write 'No-One But You' and John Lennon didn't write 'Life Is Real.'
Geez Seb, sometimes you're so stubborn it comes across as if you're simply dumb. No, the song would not have existed if it hadn't been for the author. But, considering that the song was written out of annoyance with a certain person, the song would not have existed either if the annoyance at said person hadn't existed. Therefore, it is perfectly reasonable to state that without Normal Sheffield we wouldn't have had DOTL.
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:
Therefore, it is perfectly reasonable to state that without Normal Sheffield we wouldn't have had DOTL.
Yeah, but by the same reasoning, without Freddie's parents there would've been no DOTL, and without Freddie's grandparents, and without Norman's grandparents, etc. So it's quite an irrelevant point to make really.
tcc wrote:
I think if the words "gave us" are changed to "inspired or spurred Freddie to write", the point would be clearer.
Exactly.
I think the point was clear enough for there to be no reason to get pedantic over it. No disinterested observer could reasonably have been led to believe that he suggested Norman Sheffield wrote DOTL.
