| Kacio 20.06.2014 08:04 |
Sorry he is complete idiot. |
| matt z 20.06.2014 09:05 |
They'll indulge anything. They want to play, They want a new audience, they'd like to set a sponsorship with Moët & Chandon. Yeah it was pretty gay and corny. Oh well |
| Chief Mouse 20.06.2014 09:19 |
This was a bit much for me. |
| cmsdrums 20.06.2014 09:34 |
So, one of the greatest guitarists of all time is nailing one of the greatest solos of all time, on a fantastic stage set, and the videos doesn't change angles once away from that train wreck (visually and vocally)? |
| DragonflyTrumpeter83 20.06.2014 09:36 |
It looks like he's trying to "out camp" Freddie, imho. It's too cheesy and that little laugh at the end makes him sound like Pee Wee Herman. "See my couch...HeeHee"... |
| Costa86 20.06.2014 10:07 |
I don't know what to say. On the one hand, the singing was pretty decent I think. Put the delivery seemed a bit flat. Sort of like he wants to look flamboyant, but he doesn't have it quite in him yet. Maybe he'll improve as the tour progresses. In all honestly, though, I think it's closer to the "Freddie" Queen than Paul Rodgers was. |
| Costa86 20.06.2014 10:08 |
Costa86 wrote: I don't know what to say. On the one hand, the singing was pretty decent I think. But the antics seemed a bit flat - sort of like he wants to look flamboyant, but he doesn't have it quite in him yet. Maybe he'll improve as the tour progresses. In all honestly though, I think it's closer to the "Freddie" Queen than Paul Rodgers was. |
| Costa86 20.06.2014 10:08 |
I don't know what to say. On the one hand, the singing was pretty decent I think. But the antics seemed a bit flat - sort of like he wants to look flamboyant, but he doesn't have it quite in him yet. Maybe he'll improve as the tour progresses. In all honestly though, I think it's closer to the "Freddie" Queen than Paul Rodgers was. |
| Costa86 20.06.2014 10:09 |
What the hell am I doing with the editing... |
| Mr. Bed Guy 20.06.2014 10:29 |
This is the first video/performance of Q+AL i ever watched/heard. Its horrible. When I fist saw it I called my wife who attended me through my "Queen fan life" for 25 years and asked her:"Darling, please watch this video!" She watched 10 seconds, asked "Is this with Brian and Roger?" - "Yes" - "Ok, now they're finally making fools of themselves". Then she turned around without any other word and went out of the room..... Nothing nore to say..... Thank God, here in Germany nobody(!!!!!!!!!!!!) knows Q+AL, but they still sell more CDs here without touring than in US.... |
| noorie 20.06.2014 10:44 |
Costa86 wrote: In all honestly, though, I think it's closer to the "Freddie" Queen than Paul Rodgers was.Freddie was never like that! Even when he wore his harlequin tights, he seemed completely natural. (I know I am not putting this very well.) The way he walked on to the stage, glass of champagne, speaking to the crowd, toasting them - a bit extravagant, but in a very naturally charming way. This guy looks just ----- Honestly, I have no words to express what I feel. Something out of a tranny burlesque! Brian and Roger should take a very long hard look at this clip! |
| rubens 20.06.2014 11:01 |
Yeah...didn't expect that.I don't care about a artist personal life and preferences. I'm a huge Queen and Freddie fan, so it would a hypocrite if I started to complain about Adam be homosexual or whatever he wants to be. That said,I think that kind of performance doesn't fit a Queen show. Freddie was camp (and I allways liked that) but he seems to understand that he was doing music and shows for everbody...not just to heteros or homos or anybody else. That is what Queen was always about...universal music. Unfortunately, I felt that I was watching a bit of The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, and not a rock show...and I have to admit that it bugs me. When thinks like that start to happen, it's not universal anymore and there would people who would love and people who would hate and simply label it as a gay show or something...and I don't think Queen needs that at this point. Queen is for all kinds of people, and I hope this never chance in the minds of the average joe (well, mine will not) |
| musicland munich 20.06.2014 11:42 |
"ICE CREAM - HOT DOGS" - "ICE CREAM - HOT DOGS" I wouldn't judge the tour because of one song/performance....but yes, it's a bit much. "ICE CREAM - HOT DOGS" - "ICE CREAM - HOT DOGS" |
| Vocal harmony 20.06.2014 12:15 |
noorie wrote: Freddie was never like that! Even when he wore his harlequin tights, he seemed completely natural. (I know I am not putting this very well.) The way he walked on to the stage, glass of champagne, speaking to the crowd, toasting them - a bit extravagant, but in a very naturally charming way. This guy looks just ----- Honestly, I have no words to express what I feel. Something out of a tranny burlesque! Brian and Roger should take a very long hard look at this clip!Tranny Bulesque, what a male, gay or otherwise, dressed in trousers and and a jacket is not a tranny. As for what Freddie was doing in the 70's, semi balletic posses in various leotard, toasting the audience with Moet and throwing roses from the stage. What the hell is the difference. Freddie got panned for that too, if you remember. In fact the only people who thought it worked at the time were the fans, and even some of those after ANATO and ADATR were beginning to question and accuse. As for as the tranny comment. I think you'll find the four members of Queen did just that in the video for I Want To Break Free! |
| princetom 20.06.2014 12:27 |
well, darlings, whatever you say. i like it! it is what it is. an interpretation of a song by a great guest singer. well done, imho. . i guess the singing could be done a bit more to the point. hey, but that was premiere night. yes. it's camp. what's the matter ? it's a show. and it's for an american audience. so this shall be ok. did anybody ever listen to the lyrics, anyway ? nobody claims about the sage set being gold instead of black and white... that's a very odd thing, too, isn't it ? full of decadence... how dare they ? ! so if Glambert is interpreting a song by it's character, what's wrong ? it's his kind of thing. that's simply how he does it. imho. THIS is better than most of paul rodgers' appearances. just fun. nothing too serious, though. take it or leave it. and... guys... you're complaining about something queen has done in the 70 and somehow lost in the 80s... unusual stage performance... ah. dig it. ... oh... and it's a very golden moment when he realizes that the bottle isn't open... lmao. watch his expression! |
| FreddieCat 20.06.2014 12:42 |
Definitely gonna be a rock musical with more theater than ever. This would suit both Queen (especially Brian) and AL. I think this tour is just for fun and not meant to be taken too seriously musically. Some of it, though, is good. See how it goes... |
| Marknow 20.06.2014 12:44 |
I find the title of this thread to be questionable. As princetom said above "an interpretation of a song" that's all this is, it has nothing at all to do with sexuality. Shame some of you can't see that. Take a look at Big Spender from Hammersmith 1975, Freddie does a striptease while wearing a kimono! Homosexual? No. Performance? Yes. |
| Costa86 20.06.2014 13:27 |
I agree - the title of this thread is bordering on homophobic. I wasn't too keen on Adam Lambert, but I think yesterday's interpretation of Killer Queen was good. It certainly doesn't deserve all the criticism it is getting here. It was a bit "gay clichéd", so to speak, but not too much,
Some people here are acting like Freddie Mercury purists... as if he is the only gay man who could possibly front Queen.
Marknow wrote: I find the title of this thread to be questionable. As princetom said above "an interpretation of a song" that's all this is, it has nothing at all to do with sexuality. Shame some of you can't see that. Take a look at Big Spender from Hammersmith 1975, Freddie does a striptease while wearing a kimono! Homosexual? No. Performance? Yes. |
| *goodco* 20.06.2014 14:14 |
Growing rather tiresome to read those who love to use this word in headers/posts. Time to grow up. 'Camp' fits. Bad camera work fits. Go to youtube and check out some of the old Sweet vids. Very camp. Yet, their fame increased afterwards. |
| mooghead 20.06.2014 14:26 |
Agree.... Queen fans using the word 'gay' as an insult. I think the ones who do are just too fucking stupid to realise what they are saying... |
| Another Roger (re) 20.06.2014 15:21 |
This is horrible. |
| Another Roger (re) 20.06.2014 15:23 |
Its sad to say this: Queen Extravaganza > Queen + Adam Lambert |
| Stelios 20.06.2014 15:53 |
He is chanelling a bit of Army of Lovers attitude here. Too gay is what i thought too. On the other hand during the iHeartRadio concert he was not camp at all. I think he is experimenting and that is good even if sometimes crosses the line of "acceptable taste" ( even if there is such a thing) On the other hand Mercury did that too but in a more homoerotic less camp sort of way. For example ... link |
| noorie 20.06.2014 16:51 |
Vocal harmony wrote: Tranny Bulesque, what a male, gay or otherwise, dressed in trousers and and a jacket is not a tranny. As for what Freddie was doing in the 70's, semi balletic posses in various leotard, toasting the audience with Moet and throwing roses from the stage. What the hell is the difference. As for as the tranny comment. I think you'll find the four members of Queen did just that in the video for I Want To Break Free!Yes, I do know what a tranny is, but it just seemed to fit this 'performance' style. Also, IWTBF is not tranny - just camp. With Freddie, everything he did on stage was just like a happy extension of his personality. It was outrageous, it was camp, but it was very natural and easy going. This show on the other hand seems very contrived and heavily stage managed. It feels as though Queen is trying just waaay too hard to get that Freddie feeling. And failing! |
| GonnaUseMyPrisoners 20.06.2014 17:15 |
princetom wrote: well, darlings, whatever you say. i like it! it is what it is. an interpretation of a song by a great guest singer. well done, imho. . i guess the singing could be done a bit more to the point. hey, but that was premiere night. yes. it's camp. what's the matter ? it's a show. and it's for an american audience. so this shall be ok. did anybody ever listen to the lyrics, anyway ? nobody claims about the sage set being gold instead of black and white... that's a very odd thing, too, isn't it ? full of decadence... how dare they ? ! so if Glambert is interpreting a song by it's character, what's wrong ? it's his kind of thing. that's simply how he does it. imho. THIS is better than most of paul rodgers' appearances. just fun. nothing too serious, though. take it or leave it. and... guys... you're complaining about something queen has done in the 70 and somehow lost in the 80s... unusual stage performance...Yep! Princetom's got it right. Anyone who just complained about that clip are all forgetting that Queen shows are fun, outrageous (nude bicyclists? Superman?) and intended to be theatre. Please don't let it challenge your sexuality. You sound ridiculous criticizing others having a good time. I hope you learn your manners and next time simply say "it's not for me, for I don't understand it". And it's sad you don't. I genuinely hope that one day you will, 'cuz life's a lot more fun that way. |
| splicksplack 20.06.2014 17:51 |
He's just fucking awful. There's no artistry in his campness. He might as well be a 3rd rate drag act from Wigan. |
| Khizzy 20.06.2014 19:43 |
After seeing that video they should just call it a day and concentrate on archive releases, instead of allowing Lambert to play up to his legions of fans that are obviously there to see him and not Queen! As much I disliked Paul Rodgers at the time, at least he did stuff in his own style rather than a forced OTT parody of dear Fred. Queen don't need Lambert to be great, and I'm sure he's doing well enough for himself anyway. |
| someonewholikesadam 20.06.2014 21:23 |
Kacio wrote: Sorry he is complete idiot.I LOVE it! What you are seeing there is classic Adam! And guaranteed every part of his outfit is something he re-engineered from his closet. That's one of the things we love about him! |
| FreddieCat 20.06.2014 21:30 |
I agree with every post on this thread, seriously! It is very theatrical and contrived, but not to get too excited becuz he will probably do something risque on every show. He likes burlesque and B&R like him and are willingly going along with his ideas. Will B&R see him in the realm of WWRY, or pushing boldly beyond? Regardess, they will no doubt approve of his performances. Short of shoving Brian's or Roger's head in his crotch, they will give him an unbridled nod. Yeah, I would take Queen Extravaganza to this. |
| someonewholikesadam 20.06.2014 22:41 |
Khizzy wrote: As much I disliked Paul Rodgers at the time, at least he did stuff in his own style rather than a forced OTT parody of dear Fred. .That is not a forced OTT parody of Freddie. That is classic Adam. He is singing Queen songs but being totally himself. |
| someonewholikesadam 20.06.2014 22:50 |
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| Jimmy Dean 20.06.2014 23:11 |
I disagree. He's being unique and playing the role of the extravagant frontman... all the while and he's nailing the vocals. He is not fucking up. This is not Queen on tour with another ego (ie. Paul Rodgers). This guy is also not *trying* to be like Freddie. He's being himself and he actually IS doing the music justice. I was skeptical at first, yes, because he basically got the gig via American Idol... But he's really starting to prove himself worthy of being where he is. |
| flash00. 20.06.2014 23:12 |
That was bad real shit, Freddie was absolute nothing like that in the 70s or 80s i was not expecting it to be that bad, That was not camp or flamboyant he was screaming tranny or a very cheap drag act and i am not joking either he looks more like Gary Glitter in that gear and seat and wtf was that with the Champagne bottle? it looked more like a porno what next dressing up as a magician on stilts and pulling a pink bunny rabbit out his arse for A Kind of Magic, i think Brian and Roger may be cringing in secret but wont say shit to Lambert, Roger has been going on lately about Queen in there day were a heavy rock band and he has said this a few times in interviews i think Roger and Brian maybe thought they would be touring the US more like Led Zep instead of the Scissor Sisters, Lambert looked like a parody of glam rock, like him or not Paul Rogers was way better than this crap they actually looked and sounded like a real rock band instead of two old men following a drag queen around a stage. and II agree with the post before me Queen Extravaganza instead of this. |
| Sheer Brass Neck 20.06.2014 23:12 |
Choice of words from OP is inappropriate and incorrect to boot. This version of KQ was so "rock and roll". I remember seeing Zeppelin in '76 in NYC and during The Immigrant Song, Plant casually sashayed in a hammock Page strummed a ukelele whilst rolling in a field of fake patchouli and no one said "that ain't rock and roll." Go easy on the new guy, he's replicating the classic rock of years gone by, it's not like he's doing embarrassing literal off-Broadway shit. Further, James Hetfield announced via Twitter that he Metallica has retired Stone Cold Craxy from their live sets after hearing AL destroy the fuck out of that bitch and make it his own with his husky growling rock and roll voice. Rock and roll, wooooo hooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Sheer Brass Neck 20.06.2014 23:15 |
^^^ Quit being honest, I mean, a hater :) |
| someonewholikesadam 20.06.2014 23:40 |
Kacio, Lambert and Killer Gay?? Really?? What are you, ten? |
| Makka 21.06.2014 00:07 |
I have tickets to the Perth concert here in Australia. I have been a Queen fan since I was about 8 when my brother bought the News of the World album. I guess I am still not convinced on the Adam Lambert thing either but I will say the guy can sing. No doubt about that. Watching the iHeart Radio concerts I guess he probably shouldn't talk as much because he does come across as a bit over the top, and laying it on like the clip shown here for Killer Queen is not to my taste. But, I'm going to see Brian and Roger mainly anyway and to hear these great songs performed live. |
| Makka 21.06.2014 00:09 |
I should also add that I'm excited to see Spike perform as well. He's been part of their live shows for a long time now. :) |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 21.06.2014 00:36 |
First, and most important, horrible topic name,, very homofobic....An edit please. Second, is like a Broadway nowdays thing...and I don't like the Broadway musicals on this days. Is so calculate, like acting. Freddie was, like Elvis, like Iggy Pop with the first Stooges years, a stage animal.A tyger. This is not Cabaret, is like Mamma Mia...Honestly, I don't care the sexuality. One of my favorite singers were gays, like Jobriath, others heterosexuals like Jim Morrison, I never mind that.. This is other thing. And about Lambert like a frontmant? IHe is imiting George Michael bad in Faith era!!!! Maylor had the time to do something decent with George Michael and John Deacon in the mid 90's....now, it's too late, like Van Morrison sang. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 21.06.2014 00:43 |
Other thing, Scissor Sisters'singer is a very good frontmant, better than Lambert. |
| youngballantyne 21.06.2014 02:23 |
I loved it. I thought it was great. It's tongue in cheek...something Freddie would have loved if he was around. You don't get a big part of what Queen/Freddie was about if you are ranting about this! If you want straight forward rock then go to a who concert. Remember the many 'odd' things...like coming on with the wig, fake boobs during IWTBF during the works tour or wearing super short leather shorts and a bikers cap during the game tour. |
| youngballantyne 21.06.2014 02:39 |
Very offensive (homophobic) post...btw. |
| Day dop 21.06.2014 03:16 |
I fucking miss Freddie right now. |
| inu-liger 21.06.2014 03:52 |
Fuck you and your homophobic post Kacio. Your topic title is just as fucking awful as your remixes, if not worse! ">link |
| Cruella de Vil 21.06.2014 06:35 |
I half expected Adam to be joined by Brittany Spears as the whole thing was LA-kitsch. Not what one would normally expect from a Queen concert, but hey the last real one was in August 1986 and as people have already said, Freddie had his moments too. Seeing them in Sydney in 1976 as a 15 year old I was shocked, bemused and entertained when Fred did his strip act in the Kimono for Big Spender to the candy-striped hot pants for Jailhouse Rock. It brought the house down! It was fun, it was silly. Is this really any different? This is a concert by Queen AND Adam Lambert and this was his take on a classic, whimsical pop song. Not entirely to my taste but so what? Time to lighten up folks. |
| Daniel Nester 21.06.2014 06:45 |
You stay classy, Queenzone. |
| matt z 21.06.2014 06:55 |
Sheer Brass Neck wrote: Choice of words from OP is inappropriate and incorrect to boot. This version of KQ was so "rock and roll". I remember seeing Zeppelin in '76 in NYC and during The Immigrant Song, Plant casually sashayed in a hammock Page strummed a ukelele whilst rolling in a field of fake patchouli and no one said "that ain't rock and roll." Go easy on the new guy, he's replicating the classic rock of years gone by, it's not like he's doing embarrassing literal off-Broadway shit. Further, James Hetfield announced via Twitter that he Metallica has retired Stone Cold Craxy from their live sets after hearing AL destroy the fuck out of that bitch and make it his own with his husky growling rock and roll voice. Rock and roll, wooooo hooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Husky growling Rock voice? Can you dig up the quote? I liked the performance, it's f*****g great that they're playing it again (well. ... Rufus and Brian I mean ;)) But HUSKY? They must be out of their fucking mind (*or more likely kissing ass in a desperate bid to get another audience from the fanberts) Death magnetic was a pretty good album, but I still really don't like those guys in Metallica. Music either. I'll take Megadeth over them ANY fucking day. Even with Dave Mustaine's (live saving) conversion to hard liner pseudo Fox news "republican" these days. I can ignore that, because he is truly an addict. It keeps him alive. Anyways. In accordance with THAT ludicrous statement.... Adams couch was a far better prop than Roger's constructed drum kit solo |
| Sheldon 21.06.2014 07:02 |
I don't like the way Lambert performs this song and many other songs. I also don't particularly like Freddie's pre-1979 performances. It's just not the style I enjoy watching. Still, when Freddie did stuff like this he made it work, because well, he was Freddie Mercury. There's a lot of ways he could perform and do on stage without looking silly, just think about the "crowning" at the end of each Magic Tour show. Lambert is not even close to being such a performer and legend. I saw Queen+AL live in 2012 and enjoyed the show a lot. I'm sure I'd enjoy a 2014 show too. This does however not mean that I enjoy looking at Adam, even though I think he is a much better and suiting front man for Queen than Paul Rodgers. Also, keep in kind that when Freddie did stuff like this it was the 1970s, a time when even ABBA looked "gay" (to use the term the topic of this thread uses). In the 1980s Queen and Freddie looked very differently. Even at the Works tour shows Freddie's behaviour and performance was much more "manly", despite him wearing a similar outfit to the mid-70s leotards. This era of Queen preformances is my faourite. Freddie never looked like Boy George for example. And I'm pretty sure that if Freddie was alive today we would see him do shows in the style of the 1989 music videos rather than in Adam's style. This I think is why many fans are dissapointed Adam's preformances. |
| Vocal harmony 21.06.2014 07:06 |
CruellaDeVille wrote: Seeing them in Sydney in 1976 as a 15 year old I was shocked, bemused and entertained when Fred did his strip act in the Kimono for Big Spender to the candy-striped hot pants for Jailhouse Rock. It brought the house down! It was fun, it was silly. Is this really any different? This is a concert by Queen AND Adam Lambert and this was his take on a classic, whimsical pop song. Not entirely to my taste but so what? Time to lighten up folks.Yes. Good point. Add your experience to all the others, fake boobs, black leather hot pants etc, why is what Adam Lambert doing such a problem. The other thing that no one seems to have noticed is the great response from the press and audience, alike, to the first show. |
| thomasquinn 32989 21.06.2014 07:45 |
What is it with all the homophobes on QZ of late? Doesn't FOX News have a forum? Anyway, when listing all of the unpleasant traits of Queen + AL, you've got so much to choose from that sexual orientation comes just before "pro-mammal speciecism". |
| Sheer Brass Neck 21.06.2014 07:54 |
Hey Matt Z, I believe your computers sarcasm detector settings are off, please turn them back on :) |
| Nitroboy 21.06.2014 08:12 |
rubens wrote: if I started to complain about Adam be homosexual or whatever he wants to be. Kindly fuck off with that shit right there. It's not a fucking choice. As for other people calling Lambert's performance "too gay" and other shit like that, fuck off. I didn't like the performance, his stage-act just seemed too forced and contrived, his singing and phrasing was odd as well. |
| Fireplace 21.06.2014 08:45 |
inu-liger wrote: Fuck you and your homophobic post Kacio. Your topic title is just as fucking awful as your remixes, if not worse! ">linkAt least you had the good sense to respond in a mature way and set an example . |
| Mrmarioanonym 21.06.2014 09:02 |
could've been worse, but the camp delivery and manners seem more forced than anything. brian is great as always. |
| rubens 21.06.2014 09:54 |
Kindly fuck off? Mr.Nitroboy you are a real gentleman. Do I have cursed or attacked Adam? No, I don't. If he choose to be who he is or if it's because of genetics or whatever, I really don't care. People have free will and I don't waste my time trying to figure out why they do what they do. As I said before, I don't care about artists personal lives. If you are homosexual and my early comment made you feel bad....I'm sorry, that wasn't my goal. BUT...I have the right to choose what I like to see in a concert. Freddie was a diva, but the he was a rock diva. And I like rock performances. Adam is a broadway diva and I don't like boadway in a rock concert. That is my opinion and I'm entitled to express it in a polite manner (as I did before). So you have to deal with it and if you have a point, instead to tell people to fuck off, try to show some manners and we can have a pleasant conversation. |
| Kacio 21.06.2014 11:13 |
inu-liger wrote: Fuck you and your homophobic post Kacio. Your topic title is just as fucking awful as your remixes, if not worse! ">linkhey hey hey. Fuck YOU. You moron.I rated the performance of Lambert. He brings a style reminiscent of Lady Gaga on Queen stage. This is sick! You are ridiculous, because I don't write about you (Lambert fan) and you insult me, my remixes, etc. You are cynical and you simply don't have nothing to say... I wonder if you're so smart, in fact. Probably not. |
| splicksplack 21.06.2014 12:29 |
Just to clarify why some people see parts of this thread as homophobic. It is totally inaccurate to say Lambert's performance is too 'gay'. 'Gay 'refers to being sexually attracted to one's own sex. I didn't notice him propositioning or shagging any blokes. Campness is an inherent manner of behaviour or an acquired affectation and only some gay men are camp. The vast majority behave in the same way as their straight counterparts. Lambert's campness does not equate to gayness. It's just his style. There are many straight men who are camp. So stop mixing it up because it just comes over as ignorant. |
| Rick 21.06.2014 13:45 |
Terrible. Just terrible. My heroes, what have you done? |
| Kacio 21.06.2014 15:01 |
Rick true... this is just catastrophe ;/// @splicksplack - ok I'm really sorry, it was not good from me. But this style is awful it is as I wrote above. He brings a style reminiscent of Lady Gaga on Queen stage... ;/ |
| splicksplack 21.06.2014 15:57 |
Kacio wrote: Rick true... this is just catastrophe ;/// @splicksplack - ok I'm really sorry, it was not good from me. But this style is awful it is as I wrote above. He brings a style reminiscent of Lady Gaga on Queen stage... ;/I agree. Killer Queen was a shocking embarrassment. |
| Russian Headlong 21.06.2014 16:24 |
Tragic. Queen Extravaganza is better than Queen + Adam Lammbert. What the hell are Brian and Roger thinking? Paul Rodgers was so much better. Personally, I would like to see either Matt Bellamy, Justin Hawkins or Jeff Scott Soto front Queen shows. |
| the dude 1366 21.06.2014 17:55 |
Liberace, Elton, George Michael and Freddie would say this is too gay. Ffs, Brian and Roger, there are limits. |
| Donna13 21.06.2014 18:46 |
I thought it was only slightly too much. I think he was trying to be funny - like a TV variety show sketch ... because of the lyrics of Killer Queen. Also, I think he was trying to entertain the Adam fans. His poor fans have to sit (or stand) through an entire concert of Queen music. There is not one Adam song for them to look forward to. And I'm sure Brian could do his magic on some of Adam's hits. So ... I guess the best thing he could do at this point (my expert advice - ha) is try to interpret the Killer Queen song more based on the music instead of the lyrics. I think he is over-thinking the lyrics and that is distracting from the melody. |
| k-m 21.06.2014 19:14 |
Stelios wrote: He is chanelling a bit of Army of Lovers attitude here. Too gay is what i thought too. On the other hand during the iHeartRadio concert he was not camp at all. I think he is experimenting and that is good even if sometimes crosses the line of "acceptable taste" ( even if there is such a thing) On the other hand Mercury did that too but in a more homoerotic less camp sort of way. For example ... link |
| k-m 21.06.2014 19:15 |
Exactly. We must not forget he is still a young performer and he is still learning. It must be a very difficult role to tackle. On one hand, he entered a certain format of a super established band, but on the other hand, it is a bit of a new band, isn't it? And he seems to get this idea, not simply singing the songs and acting as a singer "for hire", but actually trying to introduce something new to the whole idea of "Queen". I think it should be treated as a credit, because he is trying to be a little creative in a situation (a tour like this) which could dampen any creativity whatsoever. So, I wouldn't judge him just based on this on this particular song performance. At the same time we get really good renditions of many other songs (which many other performers could only envy; see the FM tribute concert) and occasional moments of brilliance (Love Kills). The fact it gets so much attention is also priceless, as this is one of the things showbiz is about. Do not forget, it's not 1975 anymore, it's 2014 and it seems they are not only trying to appeal to "old fans", but also to new fan base, which must be vast, considering big sales of albums like "Absolute Greatest" or ongoing referencing by performers like Muse, Foo Fighters or [sic!] Lady GaGa and Katy Perry. Yes, it was camp as hell, but frankly I don't know how I'd react to some Freddie moments if I was a fan in the time when he was the main culprit. |
| the dude 1366 21.06.2014 19:16 |
Please omit this embarrassment from the rest of tour. I mean specifically the couch |
| k-m 21.06.2014 19:24 |
Russian Headlong wrote: Tragic. Queen Extravaganza is better than Queen + Adam Lammbert. What the hell are Brian and Roger thinking? Paul Rodgers was so much better. Personally, I would like to see either Matt Bellamy, Justin Hawkins or Jeff Scott Soto front Queen shows.That clown Justin Hawkins?! Are you kidding? Matt Bellamy? Oh yes, if he only wanted to. Jeff Scott Soto? Forget it. Queen needs someone with some sort of a name. |
| the dude 1366 21.06.2014 19:52 |
Ok to anyone thinking negative comments on here are bordering on homphobic...my gay best friend said this video is embarrassing. This is just extra gay for the sake of it. It's not a statement or risque or revolutionary. It is a bad, bad choice. |
| cacatua 21.06.2014 20:37 |
Haha! Haven't checked in here for a long time, but I see little has changed. I think Adam's voice sounds great with Queen this time out. The young lad is gettin' the hang of it, and he, Brian and Roger are having a helluva glorious time out there, and THAT'S the important thing. I love to see them enjoying themselves and making people happy.........except for you people, and nothing short of Freddie being raised from the dead would do it for you, but I'm afraid that hell might just freeze over first so I guess you-all are going to have a loooong wait. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 21.06.2014 20:39 |
There is one thing...he admitted only knews the hits!!!! I mean, when I was at his age I know all the Queen songs, Led Zep, etc... |
| Daniel Nester 21.06.2014 21:37 |
Limits to gay performance styles in the context of Queen. This place is great. |
| Marcos Napier 21.06.2014 22:52 |
Even Freddie wasn't that gay. And the annoying vibrato still lives on. |
| winterspelt 21.06.2014 23:31 |
Its funny how everybody forgets all those ridiculous, gay and tasteless things Freddie did in the 70s... Anyway... The only thing I find really funny is Adam wearing a crown, he looks like Jughead from all those Archie comics, lol |
| splicksplack 22.06.2014 05:40 |
the dude 1366 wrote: Ok to anyone thinking negative comments on here are bordering on homphobic...my gay best friend said this video is embarrassing. This is just extra gay for the sake of it. It's not a statement or risque or revolutionary. It is a bad, bad choice. |
| splicksplack 22.06.2014 05:41 |
the dude 1366 wrote: Ok to anyone thinking negative comments on here are bordering on homphobic...my gay best friend said this video is embarrassing. This is just extra gay for the sake of it. It's not a statement or risque or revolutionary. It is a bad, bad choice.Sorry to pick on your post when there are plenty of other examples but is your 'gay best friend' also extremely theatrically camp? Do you go to the pub with him in his feather boa? Does he mince along swishing his arse from side to side? Because referring to Lambert's performance as being too 'gay' implies that all gay men are camp. You're defining 'gay' by using Lambert as an example. And that is wrong. It's like saying all lesbians are butch diesel dykes or all black people wear grass skirts and are cannibals. It's not just factually incorrect, it's ignorant and offensive. If you have a problem with Lambert's performance (as I do), slag it off for what it is - OVER THE TOP CAMP, NOT GAY. Campness may be a feature of a small percentage of gay men's behaviour but certainly not the majority. There is a welsh rugby player, once the most capped Welsh rugby union player - Gareth Thomas. 1.91m and 103kg of as hard masculinity as you are ever likely to find. He came out as gay in 2009. A I said earlier describing Lamberts performance as 'too gay' just doesn't make sense. Masculine gay men are not the minority of gay men. It's just that straight society and media prefer to highlight the more 'camp', 'outlandish'' examples for reason of titillation and childish amusement. A careless trap that a few people on here have fallen into, offending others into the bargain. |
| cacatua 22.06.2014 10:23 |
Freddie lived in a time when people, at least in the USA, were seeing gay men die from AIDS and saying, "They brought it upon themselves," or "They deserved it," or things like that. I don't know if attitudes were any better in other parts of the world then, but who knows how Freddie might have performed without that sort of constraint - if he could have been fully himself onstage. Seems to me he did some pretty unique and outlandish things anyway. Furthermore, artists are always evolving. To stop evolving is death to an artist. |
| Kacio 22.06.2014 12:22 |
DISCO! :D link |
| john bodega 22.06.2014 12:59 |
The couch was a 30 second gag at best, I think. Nice prop, but I think spending a whole song there is a bit lazy. Brian is sounding fucking great. Really bummed I won't be able to catch any shows, mainly because I want to catch him before he retires. Still think he should sing Tie Your Mother Down though. Just sounds better coming from him. He gets the Author Bonus. |
| cacatua 22.06.2014 14:16 |
Hello, Z. I don't think Brian will ever retire unless he becomes disabled in some way, though wandering so far away from home to perform as OZ may not happen in the future. He has so many irons in the fire these days that it is amazing he can embark on a world tour at all, but he is looking and sounding very fit so far. Whatever else you may think of Adam, having him with them to perform is giving them the momentum to get out there while they still can, and the format to do some of their stuff again, as they plainly enjoy it. It just makes me feel good to see them havin' a good time out there. |
| Marcos Napier 22.06.2014 14:23 |
winterspelt wrote: Its funny how everybody forgets all those ridiculous, gay and tasteless things Freddie did in the 70s...Name one, please. |
| winterspelt 22.06.2014 19:44 |
Marcos Napier wrote:winterspelt wrote: Its funny how everybody forgets all those ridiculous, gay and tasteless things Freddie did in the 70s...Name one, please. [IMG]link [IMG]link [IMG]link [IMG]link EDIT: Forget it, codes doesnt work, here's the link: link link link link |
| noorie 22.06.2014 21:31 |
Freddie did everything spontaneously, for fun and entertainment. And he had the style and personality to carry it off! He was an original. Adam just cannot carry off the same kind of thing, and looks as if he is trying too hard. Just goes to show how desperately Brian and Roger are trying to imitate the Freddie phenomenon! After saying Adam is going to bring his own interpretation of their music, and not try to be another Freddie. |
| matt z 22.06.2014 21:37 |
Hey! The liza Minelli look wasn't gay to begin with, after all. .. Alice Cooper gave it a shot! ;) |
| Marcos Napier 22.06.2014 22:14 |
I'm still trying to find the "ridiculous, gay and tasteless" bit in these pics. What's wrong with a lurex outfit for a guy that once used the nickname Larry Lurex? It was the 70's, baby. Elton John was never ridiculous as well. Japanese kimonos, ridiculous? Darth Vader (or Superman!), gay? Pfft. And BTW Freddie never carried a gay flag with him neither it was his most evident quality or characteristic. Yes, he was "gay as a daffodil", but he never made himself look like a clueless clown because of that. Adam is just a poor man's version of Liberace, that's it. I will try as much as possible not to make comments on Brian and Roger's choice once again (they can do whatever the fuck they want, that's not the point), for all that they have done. But it seems that it's just for the money, unfortunately (younger audiences can and might buy Queen records - let's hope none with this aberration, can we? - more than old fans that are tired of the same compilations over and over and over), despite they don't needing any more of it (or do they?). |
| GonnaUseMyPrisoners 22.06.2014 22:24 |
Nomination: WORST QZ THREAD EVER |
| Doga 22.06.2014 22:40 |
Yes, this topic is embarrasing, for the web and for us their users. |
| Stelios 23.06.2014 07:20 |
GonnaUseMyPrisoners wrote: Nomination: WORST QZ THREAD EVERThis is off topic but i wanted to ask you about the lyric of Dragon Attack in your tag "...gonna use my prisoners, gonna give 'em the business...' It always puzzled me. How do you interpretate it? |
| Sheldon 23.06.2014 08:37 |
Marcos Napier wrote: I'm still trying to find the "ridiculous, gay and tasteless" bit in these pics. What's wrong with a lurex outfit for a guy that once used the nickname Larry Lurex? It was the 70's, baby. Elton John was never ridiculous as well. Japanese kimonos, ridiculous? Darth Vader (or Superman!), gay? Pfft. And BTW Freddie never carried a gay flag with him neither it was his most evident quality or characteristic. Yes, he was "gay as a daffodil", but he never made himself look like a clueless clown because of that. Adam is just a poor man's version of Liberace, that's it. I will try as much as possible not to make comments on Brian and Roger's choice once again (they can do whatever the fuck they want, that's not the point), for all that they have done. But it seems that it's just for the money, unfortunately (younger audiences can and might buy Queen records - let's hope none with this aberration, can we? - more than old fans that are tired of the same compilations over and over and over), despite they don't needing any more of it (or do they?).My point exactly! Yes, Freddie was over the top in the 1970s, but it was a different time. Look at Rod Steward, David Bowie, hell, even ABBA! Also, while Freddie was original and charismatic, Adam is not very original and he simply is not the one of a kind performer Freddie was. Let me use an example. Marat Safin and John McEnroe were both very famous for behaving terrible on the tennis court. But people loved them because of that feature. When some younger kids try to do the same they just embarass themselves. |
| GonnaUseMyPrisoners 23.06.2014 09:37 |
Stelios wrote:Listen closely to live renditions (the Montreal 1981 version, I think, and other shows) Freddie frequently mixed up the two different lines in live shows by mistakenly beginning to sing "Gonna use my (stack)" for a second time, but then realizes it's wrong, and recovers with "(She don't take no) prisoners", yeilding the odd hybrid "Gonna use (no/my) prisoners". I think it's hilarious. I also wondered if it might be intentional, since it has a wicked sense of humor/innuendo. I honestly can't tell whether he says "(no/my)", so I choose to repeat it as "my" cuz its funnier, seems to fit Freddie's wicked sense of humor.GonnaUseMyPrisoners wrote: Nomination: WORST QZ THREAD EVERThis is off topic but i wanted to ask you about the lyric of Dragon Attack in your tag "...gonna use my prisoners, gonna give 'em the business...' It always puzzled me. How do you interpretate it? |
| winterspelt 23.06.2014 10:40 |
Marcos Napier wrote: I'm still trying to find the "ridiculous, gay and tasteless" bit in these pics. What's wrong with a lurex outfit for a guy that once used the nickname Larry Lurex? It was the 70's, baby. Elton John was never ridiculous as well. Japanese kimonos, ridiculous? Darth Vader (or Superman!), gay? Pfft. And BTW Freddie never carried a gay flag with him neither it was his most evident quality or characteristic. Yes, he was "gay as a daffodil", but he never made himself look like a clueless clown because of that. Adam is just a poor man's version of Liberace, that's it. I will try as much as possible not to make comments on Brian and Roger's choice once again (they can do whatever the fuck they want, that's not the point), for all that they have done. But it seems that it's just for the money, unfortunately (younger audiences can and might buy Queen records - let's hope none with this aberration, can we? - more than old fans that are tired of the same compilations over and over and over), despite they don't needing any more of it (or do they?).Superman or Kimonos are not gay or tasteless per se... Until you have a guy doing a striptease or using Superman as some kind of erotic fetishism, which is by far more tasteless than a guy sitting and "drinking" from a fake champagne bottle. Of course Freddie never carried a gay flag, but it doesnt change the fact that he had the gay clone look, using gay gestures etc etc. As for Adam being a poor man version of Liberace, well, to be honest, I dont know a lot about Liberace so I cant give any opinion about it. As for Roger and Brian milking Queen's music, well, you are right, it is because of the money, of course! hey could do another Smile (which would be 66% Smile, compared to 50% Queen) but the name Queen does sell a lot more, of course. I could give my opinion about it but it would be totally off topic. Now, the main point of this thread was because the OP found Adam Lambert singing Killer Queen on a couch "gay" (and we can imply he said gay not in the homosexual context of it, but on a very rude way) which is funny cause, as I said before, Freddie did a lot of other things a lot more embarrassing/gay whatever you call it. At least this is my opinion! |
| M-train 23.06.2014 11:33 |
Speaking of Queen Extravaganza why in Gods name didn't Queen pick Marc Martel for the job of lead singer. Hell, I would pay good money to see that guy sing with Queen....... link |
| Vocal harmony 23.06.2014 13:59 |
M-train wrote: Speaking of Queen Extravaganza why in Gods name didn't Queen pick Marc Martel for the job of lead singer. Hell, I would pay good money to see that guy sing with Queen....... linkBoth BM and RT have made it clear that they have no wish to share a stage under the Queen name with someone who sounds anything like Freddie. It won't happen |
| tero! 48531 23.06.2014 15:00 |
Vocal harmony wrote: Both BM and RT have made it clear that they have no wish to share a stage under the Queen name with someone who sounds anything like Freddie.I can see why... A decent singer might take the spotlight away from Boger! |
| Vocal harmony 23.06.2014 16:01 |
tero! 48531 wrote:More likely RT and BM would be worried about the string of narrow minded baffoons they'd attract instead of an open minded audience!Vocal harmony wrote: Both BM and RT have made it clear that they have no wish to share a stage under the Queen name with someone who sounds anything like Freddie.I can see why... A decent singer might take the spotlight away from Boger! |
| someonewholikesadam 23.06.2014 22:38 |
Adam may be gay but the lingerie has begun to fly. And it's not his. |
| wOvANz 23.06.2014 23:05 |
This is not about gays or something, this is just disgusting! |
| someonewholikesadam 23.06.2014 23:18 |
wOvANz wrote: This is not about gays or something, this is just disgusting!what is disgusting???? |
| someonewholikesadam 23.06.2014 23:41 |
PeteLeMessurier 1m @adamlambert put on an unreal show with the legendary @QueenWillRock. Quite possibly the best show I've been to yet. |
| cacatua 24.06.2014 16:57 |
People here are so clueless about Brian and Roger................clueless and downright mean. I almost feel sorry for the lot of you who seem so incapable of being anything but negative about anything they do.............almost. |
| Daniel Nester 24.06.2014 17:40 |
Those 70s outfits weren't gay at all. They were completely heterosexual, tasteful, and of the time. Shit, I wear kimonos and spangles unitards and I've loved the ladies for as long as I remember. You guys have it SO WRONG. |
| someonewholikesadam 24.06.2014 21:50 |
someonewholikesadam wrote: Adam may be gay but the lingerie has begun to fly. And it's not his. THE OLD DAYS |
| The Real Wizard 26.06.2014 23:03 |
Wow - some Queen fans are such assholes. So much bitterness and resentment. So much empty desire for attention on a forum, attacking someone simply because they're not Freddie Mercury. You people seriously need to get a life. This thread is proof that the only thing that will make some people happy would be to perform a resurrection. Alleviating perpetual closed-mindedness obviously isn't an option. Full review of the Saskatoon show is pending. I'm sure you guys are going to love it... |
| Sheer Brass Neck 27.06.2014 19:59 |
^^^ So if the Saskatoon review is pending and glowing with tributes, seriously, what does that mean? That the collaboration is justified? That if the reviewer thought Nickleback was the best show ever and Q + AL is even better that justifies anything ? Best show ever? Compared to what? Nickleback? Queen in the 70s? Rolling Stone likes Q + AL, they hated Queen, but now they are being held up as examples of the tour's success. Do they have a stake in it (circulation, big fan base to appease) to praise them when they are a shadow of what the real Queen they trashed were? Do you question that? You said in a previous thread that you haven't heard someone who has gone to the show complain, and only people who haven't seen the show are pissy. What does that mean? That people who only see videos online can't say that notes are flat, Roger's playing is lacking, Brian misses some notes? That's ridiculous, because if going to a show is the criteria for offering opinion, then there is a fantastic site for Queen fans called queen live.ca that is a sham as there is editorial comment that can't be valid as not only was the site host not at these concerts, he wasn't born yet. If the Progressive Conservative government is a thorn in your side, why haven't you changed things with your seat in parliament for Hamilton-Wentworth? Oh, you're not an MP! Therefore you can't speak up about government corruption and how the Harper government is mean spirited because you're "not there", correct, is opinion subjective to topics you favour?. You speak frequently about binary thinking, and speak of people who don't agree with your thoughts as being guilty of that. You contribute great stuff to the board, but your fandom has made you a binary thinker. Regardless of reason, people are "bad", "wrong", "assholes" for not liking the combo. You haven't seen Queen proper, how can you know of what you speak when people make fair comparisons? |
| john bodega 28.06.2014 23:57 |
"So much desire for attention on an empty forum" Fixed. |
| someonewholikesadam 29.06.2014 08:46 |
KILLER GAY IS BECOMING ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE CONCERT. EVERYBODY LOVES IT. HE IS SUCH A GOOFBALL. THIS IS WHY I LOVE GOING TO ADAM'S CONCERTS. THEY ARE FUN. OH YEAH . AND HE SINGS REAL GOOD TOO. > |
| Saint Jiub 29.06.2014 12:49 |
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| Saint Jiub 29.06.2014 12:51 |
Contrived presentation and contrived banter ... Ranks down with the worst REO Speedwagon and John Cougar concerts I ever saw.. |
| kdj2hot 04.07.2014 16:00 |
I like it. Do you people want a real band with unique personalities melding together or do you want a queen cover band? I digress I don't like it. I love it. Adam Lambert is an amazing talent when he won American Idol and he sung we are the Champions he blew me away. He's an extremely talented guy. |
| ludwigs 05.07.2014 07:39 |
I understood Adam Lambert came in 2nd on that show? Didn't realise that he'd won it... |
| thomasquinn 32989 05.07.2014 08:04 |
What do you expect, it's kdj2hot. I'd be more surprised if he got some facts RIGHT. Seeing how much he likes AL just adds to my conviction that Q+AL is not worth my time. |
| Donna13 05.07.2014 12:01 |
I think that Adam may have (and likely) received the most votes from real people. At the time, there was supposedly an issue with millions of votes coming from a rural area, that did not have the population to produce such a result. I don't know what became of that situation or if it was ever proven to be what actually happened. Maybe the Glamberts know. Anyway, the Killer Queen segment has grown on me. I liked it that Brian got involved at the LA show - sitting on the couch. That was cute! |
| thomasquinn 32989 05.07.2014 12:05 |
Donna13 wrote: At the time, there was supposedly an issue with millions of votes coming from a rural area, that did not have the population to produce such a result.Are you sure that's not, well, any election in Florida since 1845 you're talking about? |
| FreddieCat 06.07.2014 12:27 |
Perhaps Mr. Lambert has found a new career as a Killer cover frontman for 70's/80's bands wishing to tribute their own material. He is apparently for hire but will require a very high salary for his performance. |
| BelfastQueenFan 06.07.2014 20:35 |
The problem I have with it was it is SOOOO self aware. Look I love gay people. Freddie could out gay Adam 100X and I love it. Freddie had probably had more men by Adam's age than Adam ever will. But dammit, when Freddie went on stage to perform Killer Queen or even talk to the audience doing bows in a leotard...he was not being so self aware. It was his personality, an expression of artistry. Freddie had a subtlety. Hell even the TotP music video for Killer Queen was more subtle, and live, Freddie was more interested in his mastery of the piano than mastery of silly imagery. Adam looked like a member of a burlesque show. It was so over the top. His gestures and inflections on words. Maybe it is just the problem with American's trying to do British style and campness... |
| someonewholikesadam 13.07.2014 19:28 |
IHSFM! |
| thomasquinn 32989 14.07.2014 04:31 |
Why can't you just stay in the Q+AL forum? Why do you insist on pushing your quasi-religious obsession with this guy like some third-rate missionary? Get a fucking life. |
| MarkTofu 14.07.2014 08:23 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Why can't you just stay in the Q+AL forum? Why do you insist on pushing your quasi-religious obsession with this guy like some third-rate missionary? Get a fucking life.No one asked you. |
| someonewholikesadam 14.07.2014 08:52 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Why can't you just stay in the Q+AL forum? Why do you insist on pushing your quasi-religious obsession with this guy like some third-rate missionary? Get a fucking life.Did you READ the title of this thread? and I DO have a life. It is to annoy the crap out of narrow-minded, curmudgeonly old Queen fans. |
| someonewholikesadam 14.07.2014 08:53 |
MarkTofu wrote:And, Thomas Quinn, you saw the thread title. You saw my name as the last post. You entered thread just to tell me off? Get a life, loser.thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Why can't you just stay in the Q+AL forum? Why do you insist on pushing your quasi-religious obsession with this guy like some third-rate missionary? Get a fucking life.No one asked you. |
| beautifulsoup 21.07.2014 23:10 |
Went to the concert last night. I really *really* didn't care for the "new take" on this song. Just my 2 cents, YMMV, blah blah blah.... |
