splicksplack 18.06.2014 08:54 |
How come on the day of the gig you can get front block seats for tonight on ticketmaster? I wasn't expecting a sell out (despite the exaggerated reports) but it can't be that bad. Can it? |
Jake12 18.06.2014 14:38 |
Just baught my tickets last night on stub hub and said that there was 800 something tickets left |
Vocal harmony 18.06.2014 19:52 |
The place seats 23000. Having just over 800 tickets left is pretty close to sold out. The venue might have been sold out, but having received the final plans for the stage layout may have made it possible to add more rows or longer rows in the front blocks. |
The Real Wizard 19.06.2014 02:54 |
splicksplack wrote: How come on the day of the gig you can get front block seats for tonight on ticketmaster? I wasn't expecting a sell out (despite the exaggerated reports) but it can't be that bad. Can it?What a cynical troll you have become. Look in the mirror. Even if a show is nearly sold out, blocks of tickets near the front do come out now and again for one reason or another.. Whether or not you like it, Brian and Roger aren't dead and want to play. And this tour is going to be a massive success. |
inu-liger 19.06.2014 03:08 |
splicksplack wrote:How come on the day of the gig you can get front block seats for tonight on ticketmaster? I wasn't expecting a sell out (despite the exaggerated reports) but it can't be that bad. Can it?You must not be a frequent concertgoer, because if you were, you'd have done your homework long ago to know that it's very normal for venues and promoters to release extra tickets in the days leading up to and including the day of the concert. That's pretty much how I landed in row 15 (floor section) for the Van Halen concert here in Edmonton back in 2007. |
splicksplack 19.06.2014 09:06 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Ha ha. Yeah, whatever. Check your blood pressure.splicksplack wrote: How come on the day of the gig you can get front block seats for tonight on ticketmaster? I wasn't expecting a sell out (despite the exaggerated reports) but it can't be that bad. Can it?What a cynical troll you have become. Look in the mirror. Even if a show is nearly sold out, blocks of tickets near the front do come out now and again for one reason or another.. Whether or not you like it, Brian and Roger aren't dead and want to play. And this tour is going to be a massive success. |
Wilki Amieva 19.06.2014 09:15 |
There's nothing to see here... Move along, move along... |
Wiley 19.06.2014 17:05 |
OMG OMG OMG!! Do you think Brian and Roger will cancel the tour if they notice there's 800 empty seats in the room????!?!!?!?!?!?!? -_- Come on. |
scottmax 19.06.2014 20:28 |
No but they'll open the show with Now I'm Here and Stone Cold Crazy!! |
notimeforlosers 19.06.2014 20:33 |
Live Stream: link |
youngballantyne 19.06.2014 21:49 |
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youngballantyne 19.06.2014 21:49 |
Live stream...how cool is that?!! Adam sounds fantastic! |
A Word In Your Ear 19.06.2014 21:53 |
Set List:- Procession Now I'm Here Stone Cold Crazy Another One Bites The Dust Fat Bottomed Girls In The Lap Of The Gods... Revisited Seven Seas Of Rhye Killer Queen Somebody To Love I want It all Love Of My Life 39 These Are The Days Of Our Lives Under Pressure Love Kills Who Wants To Live Forever Guitar Solo Last Horizon Tie Your Mother Down Radio Ga Ga Crazy Little Thing Called Love The Show Must Go On Bohemian Rhapsody We Will Rock You We Are The Champions God Save The Queen |
notimeforlosers 19.06.2014 21:58 |
When the stream went off Brian sang Love of My Life, '39 and Roger TATDOOL |
Brian Maybe 19.06.2014 22:20 |
The setlist from Brian's page. This is exactly what I saw them do at one of the rehearsals, minus the encore. I was expecting WWRY/WATC, of course, but since they played Don't Stop Me Now on Monday, I'm surprised that wasn't in the encores, too. Edit - Just noticed '39 isn't listed, they did that in rehearsal, too. It's noted above that they did it in the show, though. Q+AL SET LIST: UNITED CENTER, CHICAGO 19 June 2014 Now I'm Here Stone Cold Crazy Another One Bites The Dust Fat Bottomed Girls In The Lap Of The Gods Seven Seas of Rhye Killer Queen Somebody To Love I Want It All Love Of My Life These Are The Days of Our Lives Under Pressure Love Kills Who Wants To Live Forever Guitar Solo Tie Your Mother Down Radio Ga Ga Crazy Little Thing Called Love The Show Must Go On Bohemian Rhapsody --- Encore: We Will Rock You We Are The Champions |
Jimmy Dean 19.06.2014 22:28 |
watching part of the stream - Tie Your Mother Down sounds incredible... Brian's pulling out some crazy ad libs to the oem solo. |
jondickens1 19.06.2014 22:33 |
As feared, pretty much the predictable hits. Only addition of interest is In the lap of the God's and Love Kills. Also nice to see Now I'm here back on the set list. Major disappointment not to hear anything else new. But, I suppose the new fans will be happy with the set list. |
Jimmy Dean 19.06.2014 22:35 |
setlist is, as expected, queen play the hits with a couple of welcome surprises - love kills and in the lap of the gods. they're including the show must go on, which i'm very happy to see.... i think they should have added One Vision right after Now I'm Here.... and dropped Who Wants To Live Forever. Set lists seems a tad bit too short...Sail Away Sweet Sister... this really should be added later in the tour... even if it means subbing out Love Kills. I think they'll be shifting some stuff around and adding a dropping here and there... it appears they're playing it safe. |
Brian Maybe 19.06.2014 22:52 |
jondickens1 wrote: As feared, pretty much the predictable hits. Only addition of interest is In the lap of the God's and Love Kills. Also nice to see Now I'm here back on the set list. Major disappointment not to hear anything else new. But, I suppose the new fans will be happy with the set list.Keeping in mind, this is a band with a TON of hits that they know people are paying to hear, I'm pretty pleased with these ones: Procession intro > Now I'm Here (1974 opener revived, very cool!) Stone Cold Crazy (Great!) Lap of the Gods...Revisited (ditto!) Seven Seas of Rhye (although it's only done up to the guitar solo...) Killer Queen (finally, since it definitely wasn't a Paul Rogers type song) Somebody To Love (ditto) '39 Love Kills (a beautiful arrangement and performance!) Even I Want It All & Show Must Go On, not necessarily unexpected, but great stuff. Throw in the expected hits, and Brian's guitar solo (which includes Lost Horizons), and it's really a great show. Easy to look at it on paper and try to analyze what you want to hear vs what they're actually doing, but I tell ya, when you're there, it's all good! :-) |
99jaystang 19.06.2014 22:52 |
Brian seems to keep "I want it all" in the setlist, not a well known song in North America. I would sub it out for Dragon, or something older. Anybody notice Bo rhap flub at the end. Brian was lost or could not hear his monitor. Oh well the first show is outa the way, it will get better . |
Brian Maybe 19.06.2014 22:55 |
Oh yeah, and we don't have to hear any Bad Company... ;-) (I actually like Bad Co, just not when I go to a Queen concert!) |
winterspelt 19.06.2014 23:12 |
I would love to hear Sleeping on the Side Walk (Brian on vocals) and It's Late, Im sure Adam can do a nice live version |
Apocalipsis_Darko 20.06.2014 00:13 |
I preffer to listen Bad Company and Free songs in a concert by Brian May & Roger Taylor. |
Ivo-1976 20.06.2014 00:52 |
I like the setlist. Now i'm here, seven seas, lap of the Gods, somebody to love, very nice! |
cmsdrums 20.06.2014 01:07 |
Was it In 'The Lap of the Gods' (as per the set), or 'In The Lap of the Gods....Revisited' (as I expect)?? |
Brian Maybe 20.06.2014 01:12 |
cmsdrums wrote: Was it In 'The Lap of the Gods' (as per the set), or 'In The Lap of the Gods....Revisited' (as I expect)??Revisited And I should add, both verses, not just one like the 1986 tour version. |
andyb1968 20.06.2014 02:29 |
Just a fantastic show from what I saw on the live stream, that has to be the best Queen lighting rig ever, very like Pink Floyd's, loving Roger's gold lame suit, not sure about Glambo's crown tho ? |
matt z 20.06.2014 05:12 |
Love the stage rig. Giant unfolding Q... sadly when Adam motioned to the sound man to put his vocals up he cut the Mic off. .. what a sound engineer! ;) Terrible. Anyways. *(yes yes potentially a battery issue when he put it on the clip) Sounded good! Great video uploads already. Get em before they're gone! P.s. Adam was reading now I'm here through his glasses |
matt z 20.06.2014 05:14 |
link Procession/now I'm here. Excellent fan video |
Marknow 20.06.2014 05:51 |
Show looks like it went quiet well. Lots of light and sound, the audience seemed to enjoy it too. The live stream is a great thing, bit beyond me though. :) Over 13000 views in 9 hours, not too shabby at all. Rock on mofo's |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 20.06.2014 07:45 |
Thank you so much for the live stream!!! I was so anxious for this first gig and was looking for setlist news, but never expected to actually see it!!! :D BTW, great setlist. It should include changes as days go by. We know they already have Don't Stop Me Now and (sadly) Dragon Attack rehearsed. Cheers, Ogre- |
Jake12 20.06.2014 09:56 |
link |
malicedoom 20.06.2014 10:21 |
The ticket thing WAS kind of bullshit to those who bought months in advance and paid big $$$. I was sitting next to two (very nice) people (to my left, closer to the stage than I was) who bought their tickets THAT AFTERNOON at 1/8th the price I paid. Ah well. Just how it works these days I guess. No point in being pissed. Such a great show. |
malicedoom 20.06.2014 10:48 |
More: link |
Jake12 20.06.2014 13:38 |
The sound was amazing in person!! |
malicedoom 20.06.2014 14:16 |
"Oh yeah, and we don't have to hear any Bad Company... ;-)" ------------------ It's funny but I kept thinking that same thing as the concert went on. We were able to hear so many more great Queen songs compared to the P.R. tour I Want It All, The Show Must Go On, Love Kills, '39, Who Wants To Live Forever, In The Lap Of The Gods (!) - outstanding. |
Brian Maybe 20.06.2014 14:26 |
matt z wrote: link Procession/now I'm here. Excellent fan videoThat was great, thanks! So exciting to see that opening, after 40 years! If you listen closely, there's some Flash Gordon mixed in with Procession. Shame about Adam's mic going out, even made Brian hit a wrong chord! :-). But he pulled it off like a real pro, going over to the other mic, tossing his to the tech to figure it out, all the while still rocking the crowd. The kid has really won me over. I was really skeptical of this pairing, to the point where I almost didn't buy tix to the show. There are some qualities to his voice that still bug me. He's no Freddie, and would be the first to admit it. But ya know, getting someone like him who's been influenced by Freddie like he has, and who really does have the range to pull it off, even without that quality to Freddie's voice that we all love, really seems to be a great, respectful way to keep the legacy of this music alive. And he seems to have a great and humble attitude about it. The naysayers will always say that without Freddie, it's not Queen, but that's just stating the obvious. Freddie's gone, it was a tragedy that we lost him, but his music and legacy lives on. And to still get to see and hear Brian and Roger do their thing together is a rare treat. These are legends, and we're lucky to still have them around and able to tour! Hearing Brian's guitar in person is still an awe inspiring thing. Just gorgeous. And whining that they're not playing as good as they did 30-40 years ago, whatever. They're human, humans get old and slow down by their age. It's called life. Considering that, they've really only barely slowed down anyway! Find any 70's band who are still playing and tell me they're better than this! :-) Ok, rant over, gonna enjoy some more clips, and wait impatiently for the LA show on Jul y 3! |
Mr.QueenFan 20.06.2014 14:41 |
Brian Maybe wrote:This is a great post. Donne with respect for all musicians involved. Very refreshing to finally see someone in QZ writing an honest opinion with a positive attitude. Well donne!matt z wrote: link Procession/now I'm here. Excellent fan videoThat was great, thanks! So exciting to see that opening, after 40 years! If you listen closely, there's some Flash Gordon mixed in with Procession. Shame about Adam's mic going out, even made Brian hit a wrong chord! :-). But he pulled it off like a real pro, going over to the other mic, tossing his to the tech to figure it out, all the while still rocking the crowd. The kid has really won me over. I was really skeptical of this pairing, to the point where I almost didn't buy tix to the show. There are some qualities to his voice that still bug me. He's no Freddie, and would be the first to admit it. But ya know, getting someone like him who's been influenced by Freddie like he has, and who really does have the range to pull it off, even without that quality to Freddie's voice that we all love, really seems to be a great, respectful way to keep the legacy of this music alive. And he seems to have a great and humble attitude about it. The naysayers will always say that without Freddie, it's not Queen, but that's just stating the obvious. Freddie's gone, it was a tragedy that we lost him, but his music and legacy lives on. And to still get to see and hear Brian and Roger do their thing together is a rare treat. These are legends, and we're lucky to still have them around and able to tour! Hearing Brian's guitar in person is still an awe inspiring thing. Just gorgeous. And whining that they're not playing as good as they did 30-40 years ago, whatever. They're human, humans get old and slow down by their age. It's called life. Considering that, they've really only barely slowed down anyway! Find any 70's band who are still playing and tell me they're better than this! :-) Ok, rant over, gonna enjoy some more clips, and wait impatiently for the LA show on Jul y 3! |
GonnaUseMyPrisoners 20.06.2014 17:52 |
99jaystang wrote: Brian seems to keep "I want it all" in the setlist, not a well known song in North America. I would sub it out for Dragon, or something older. Anybody notice Bo rhap flub at the end. Brian was lost or could not hear his monitor. Oh well the first show is outa the way, it will get better .Disagree - I Want It All got a lot of airplay around here when released, sold well on CD, isn't forgotten, is known to a few casual fans I know, and is even used in TV ads. I think it was a VERY SMART move to remove the dire, plodding tempo of Dragon Attack (in recent performances) if it meant the addition of the energy and flash of IWIA. I LOVE Dragon Attack live (the source of my moniker), but it sounded a lot different in 1982, e.g. |
GonnaUseMyPrisoners 20.06.2014 18:14 |
Yeah, the ticket thing. A few folks have correctly pointed out that tickets are released in the week before many shows. That much I agree with, because it is a fact. But... Who releases them? For what reason were they held in the first place, or, for whom? Well if everyone else can speculate on the topic, so can I! Now from this experience, here's my story. I watched the Ticketmaster website every day the week of the various "presales" (ha ha - what a crock of shit that term is). The seats were primarily of two categories: (A) Affordable, mediocre seats in mezzanines & balconies, available only briefly (like minutes after the gunshot) which sold out very quickly, and (B) various levels of VIP tickets, where you basically get a t-shirt and possibly the deluxe marble and pencil kit (LOL) and you pay waaaaaay too much for the pleasure. Main Floor front sections (1, 2, and 3) showed seats topping $350 or more. And those were VERY slow selling. There were a LOT of them. One pull offered me 3rd row at that price. I recalled balking and deciding I wouldn't pay that. So I got the lowest level VIP tix (sec 105 in United Center) for $175 each, even though a comparable non-VIP ticket would have been $125 (I think?) It was "insurance" that I'd have tickets, just in case there was a lot of Glambert demand (unknown to me). Here's where it gets interesting... So then a couple weeks before the show, I looked and discovered they were selling Main floor Sec 1, 2, 3 tix at face value: $150 each, NOT VIP. I pounced, and ended up in the 21st row right near the bottom of the Q "ribbon catwalk" ! In chatting with folks around me before the show, I confirmed that all of the people immediately around me also had purchased their seats in the few days leading up to the show at that price. My reading on this: Don't read too much into the speed of ticket sales!!! Their practice is to put a large number of VIP seats ($350) out there, trying to raise revenue, testing what the market will bear in terms of price, and selling as many as they can at those prices. Then, realizing fans don't want to pay that, they convert them to "regular" seats ($150) and they sell more quickly at a fairer price. Sadly, I had to take a LOSS on my other tickets just to get anything for them, namely because better seats were then available cheaper!!! How F Upped is that? I add the loss I took onto the cost of the seats I used and ended up paying $225 per seat. Booooo. This market practice is utter money-grubbing crap, it kills my soul to discover it, and yes, I hate Ticketmaster. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 20.06.2014 21:21 |
Saying that about Bad Company, is obvious you don't know anything about rock history. Paul Rodgers is a legend, respect him. |
Brian Maybe 21.06.2014 02:44 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Saying that about Bad Company, is obvious you don't know anything about rock history. Paul Rodgers is a legend, respect him.I guess you missed where I said this: Brian Maybe wrote: (I actually like Bad Co, just not when I go to a Queen concert!)I actually know a lot about rock history, having grown up in the 70's San Francisco area and going to see just about every classic rock band in their heyday. I saw the original Bad Co back then, one of their reunions, Paul solo, Paul with Jimmy Page in The Firm twice, and Q+PR twice. I had no problem with that pairing, especially as Paul was an influence on Freddie, but as I'm a much bigger fan of Queen's music than Bad Co's, I thought the Queen material outshined the Bad Co stuff, and I would have rather had more Queen in its place. And I was very surprised to find myself enjoying Adam with Queen more than Paul. Go figure. Your mileage may vary... |
Mr.QueenFan 21.06.2014 14:21 |
I saw Paul Rodger with Queen in 2005, and it was wonderful. Paul Rodgers is one of the greatest singers of all time. He's in his 60's and still going strong. I absolutely loved that Paul brought Queen to a more bluesy and Rockier side. Always with a smile on his face, he made everybody feel welcomed. |
ggo1 21.06.2014 14:56 |
I adore Paul Rodgers voice and thoroughly enjoyed the Toronto show I saw with Queen. But his blues style didn't always fit(for me) comfortably with the queen catalog. I just think Adam is a better fit and I'm really looking forward to the Montreal show, they should be well into the groove by then. I don't think it will happen, and I'm not sure it would be a good idea if it did, but if Queen were to release an album with Adam Lambert I'm fairly certain it would sound a lot more like (proper) Queen than the cosmos rocks did. |
Bad Seed 21.06.2014 15:19 |
Brian Maybe wrote:Response of the week!Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Saying that about Bad Company, is obvious you don't know anything about rock history. Paul Rodgers is a legend, respect him.I guess you missed where I said this:Brian Maybe wrote: (I actually like Bad Co, just not when I go to a Queen concert!)I actually know a lot about rock history, having grown up in the 70's San Francisco area and going to see just about every classic rock band in their heyday. I saw the original Bad Co back then, one of their reunions, Paul solo, Paul with Jimmy Page in The Firm twice, and Q+PR twice. I had no problem with that pairing, especially as Paul was an influence on Freddie, but as I'm a much bigger fan of Queen's music than Bad Co's, I thought the Queen material outshined the Bad Co stuff, and I would have rather had more Queen in its place. And I was very surprised to find myself enjoying Adam with Queen more than Paul. Go figure. Your mileage may vary... |
Apocalipsis_Darko 21.06.2014 16:01 |
What are you stay same Queen? The last Queen gig was in 1986....Brian May, Roger Taylor and one of the best frontman of rock history, Mr. Paul Rodgers. I agree Paul never would sang songs like I want to break free....of course, for that, I preffer to listen his stuff than Queen covers, because honestly, this is a tribute band with two original members. |
Brian Maybe 21.06.2014 16:44 |
Mr.QueenFan wrote: I saw Paul Rodger with Queen in 2005, and it was wonderful. Paul Rodgers is one of the greatest singers of all time. He's in his 60's and still going strong. I absolutely loved that Paul brought Queen to a more bluesy and Rockier side. Always with a smile on his face, he made everybody feel welcomed.Perfectly valid opinion. Paul is absolutely one of the greats, and did a great job. I enjoyed the 2 Q+PR shows I saw, and hearing what he & Brian did together was definitely interesting. Because of his drastically different style, though, he made me want to hear someone a bit more suited to the range that Freddie had. That's not a slight toward Paul, it's just who he is as a singer. Apples & Oranges. Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: What are you stay same Queen? The last Queen gig was in 1986....Brian May, Roger Taylor and one of the best frontman of rock history, Mr. Paul Rodgers. I agree Paul never would sang songs like I want to break free....of course, for that, I preffer to listen his stuff than Queen covers, because honestly, this is a tribute band with two original members.I kind of agree, it is a tribute band with 2 original members. And those 2 original members have the legal right to use the name, "Queen." But that doesn't bother me. The only question then is, whatever you choose to call it, is it something worth seeing as a Queen fan? The answer to me is unquestionably, yes. I was at the iHeart concert, and I got to see a rehearsal for the full show. And I'm very much looking forward to seeing the final production! |
someonewholikesadam 21.06.2014 17:54 |
Queenzoners, What can you possibly find wrong with this? I'm sure there's something though. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 21.06.2014 18:06 |
There are legal things about the Queen name....some off the record things that explains all this "Queen"+ |
cmsdrums 21.06.2014 18:35 |
First clip I've seen of the 'folding' lighting rig - wow!! |
Regor 24.06.2014 16:01 |
I just watched a video of LOML on YouTube from Chicago. When Freddie appeared on the screen, the place went nuts. Haven't posted here for a long time, but as I am closely following the shows on the web, a few things about this tour came to my mind. First of all, yes, I do have a problem with the fact that Adam appeared on Idol. I hate casting shows. Loathe them. Here in germany, the winners are not taken seriously, generally pretty ridiculous, and sell a lot of their respective first singles to a teenage pop audience, and fade into obscurity right after that. And deservedly so. Having played in rock bands for 20 years or so I just can't get used to this sh**! But man, the guy can sing! My father is a classical musician, and I used to sing in his choir (more rock'n'roll than you might imagine, one get's really thirsty after two hours of rehearsing Mozart's Coronation mass) I am impressed by Adam's range and sound. Okay, there's the occasional Aguilera-like yodeling show-off, but I can live with that, and he seems to have reduced it anyway. Still a very talented singer. And he seems to be a really nice bloke. So what the heck? I went to see QPR in cologne, and it was absolutely great. Paul is a fantastic singer, and did the songs chosen justice. So does Adam, IMO. Queen is known for it's diversity, and that continues with the singers chosen for the "+"-projects. So by now I still don't like the fact that he appeared on Idol, but mostly because why in the first place? With that Instrument in his throat he could've made a living on music without it. But I really, really don't want to add to these discussions (and they won't end anyway). Everyones entitled to their opinions, and I honestly respect that. For me the Queen I got to know and love ended in 1991. But in my opinion, Bri and Rog can and should do what they want as musicians, and whether this is called Queen or whatever I don't care. I enjoyed seeing them play (both solo and with Paul so far), they're still my heroes, and if QAL comes to europe, I'll be there. I got my first Queen-tape in september '86, just 2 months after their triumphant show at our stadium. I never had the chance to see Freddie perform, and this will hurt me for the rest of my life. So for me, their solo tours and Q+ is everything I get. And it's great! But to conclude this post, and why I put it here in the first place: watch that video of LOML from Chicago, look at Brian, hear the wonderful reaction of the crowd when Freddie appears. What a great moment. Goosebumps. The music lives on. |
The King Of Rhye 24.06.2014 16:53 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: I agree Paul never would sang songs like I want to break free....They did that song on the 2005 tour....... |
GonnaUseMyPrisoners 24.06.2014 21:51 |
Regor wrote: I just watched a video of LOML on YouTube from Chicago. When Freddie appeared on the screen, the place went nuts. Haven't posted here for a long time, but as I am closely following the shows on the web, a few things about this tour came to my mind. First of all, yes, I do have a problem with the fact that Adam appeared on Idol. I hate casting shows. Loathe them. Here in germany, the winners are not taken seriously, generally pretty ridiculous, and sell a lot of their respective first singles to a teenage pop audience, and fade into obscurity right after that. And deservedly so. Having played in rock bands for 20 years or so I just can't get used to this sh**! But man, the guy can sing! My father is a classical musician, and I used to sing in his choir (more rock'n'roll than you might imagine, one get's really thirsty after two hours of rehearsing Mozart's Coronation mass) I am impressed by Adam's range and sound. Okay, there's the occasional Aguilera-like yodeling show-off, but I can live with that, and he seems to have reduced it anyway. Still a very talented singer. And he seems to be a really nice bloke. So what the heck? I went to see QPR in cologne, and it was absolutely great. Paul is a fantastic singer, and did the songs chosen justice. So does Adam, IMO. Queen is known for it's diversity, and that continues with the singers chosen for the "+"-projects. So by now I still don't like the fact that he appeared on Idol, but mostly because why in the first place? With that Instrument in his throat he could've made a living on music without it. But I really, really don't want to add to these discussions (and they won't end anyway). Everyones entitled to their opinions, and I honestly respect that. For me the Queen I got to know and love ended in 1991. But in my opinion, Bri and Rog can and should do what they want as musicians, and whether this is called Queen or whatever I don't care. I enjoyed seeing them play (both solo and with Paul so far), they're still my heroes, and if QAL comes to europe, I'll be there. I got my first Queen-tape in september '86, just 2 months after their triumphant show at our stadium. I never had the chance to see Freddie perform, and this will hurt me for the rest of my life. So for me, their solo tours and Q+ is everything I get. And it's great! But to conclude this post, and why I put it here in the first place: watch that video of LOML from Chicago, look at Brian, hear the wonderful reaction of the crowd when Freddie appears. What a great moment. Goosebumps. The music lives on.I like your perspective. But we (Chicago) made a hell of a lot of noise during most of the set... we NEEDED this tour! Bloodthirsty! Go check out Nick's "Road" posts on queenonline for his quote about it... he quotes that even the sound guy noted how loud the crowd was. LOL... But is that a surprise from Chicago? To be loud? To borrow a line from Roger: "It's what we do!" ha ha. I have never been to a show with such anticipation/excitement. And I posted a link to my silly iphone videos, there are others on YouTube... it's mind-blowing to me the level of excitement they generated in our audience that night. I am NOT being too effusive in saying "Best Show EVER". Heading to Detroit and can't wait to (hopefully) hear DSMN, maybe one or two other different trax? But even if not, the set list is still impeccable and I know they'll deliver on a herculean level. Bless 'em. |
Regor 25.06.2014 02:55 |
Thanks for your reply. Yeah, you guys in Chicago made a fantastic noise, great Clips on YT. There is a feeling that both the band and the audience fueled each other with excitement. Great atmosphere. Hope you enjoy your next show in Detroit, rock on! |
Brian Maybe 25.06.2014 20:27 |
Regor wrote: I just watched a video of LOML on YouTube from Chicago. When Freddie appeared on the screen, the place went nuts. Haven't posted here for a long time, but as I am closely following the shows on the web, a few things about this tour came to my mind. First of all, yes, I do have a problem with the fact that Adam appeared on Idol. I hate casting shows. Loathe them. Here in germany, the winners are not taken seriously, generally pretty ridiculous, and sell a lot of their respective first singles to a teenage pop audience, and fade into obscurity right after that. And deservedly so. Having played in rock bands for 20 years or so I just can't get used to this sh**! But man, the guy can sing! My father is a classical musician, and I used to sing in his choir (more rock'n'roll than you might imagine, one get's really thirsty after two hours of rehearsing Mozart's Coronation mass) I am impressed by Adam's range and sound. Okay, there's the occasional Aguilera-like yodeling show-off, but I can live with that, and he seems to have reduced it anyway. Still a very talented singer. And he seems to be a really nice bloke. So what the heck? I went to see QPR in cologne, and it was absolutely great. Paul is a fantastic singer, and did the songs chosen justice. So does Adam, IMO. Queen is known for it's diversity, and that continues with the singers chosen for the "+"-projects. So by now I still don't like the fact that he appeared on Idol, but mostly because why in the first place? With that Instrument in his throat he could've made a living on music without it. But I really, really don't want to add to these discussions (and they won't end anyway). Everyones entitled to their opinions, and I honestly respect that. For me the Queen I got to know and love ended in 1991. But in my opinion, Bri and Rog can and should do what they want as musicians, and whether this is called Queen or whatever I don't care. I enjoyed seeing them play (both solo and with Paul so far), they're still my heroes, and if QAL comes to europe, I'll be there. I got my first Queen-tape in september '86, just 2 months after their triumphant show at our stadium. I never had the chance to see Freddie perform, and this will hurt me for the rest of my life. So for me, their solo tours and Q+ is everything I get. And it's great! But to conclude this post, and why I put it here in the first place: watch that video of LOML from Chicago, look at Brian, hear the wonderful reaction of the crowd when Freddie appears. What a great moment. Goosebumps. The music lives on.Great post, I think I agree with every single thing you said. I've also been trying to make the point in various threads that it's a very special thing to be able to see Brian & Roger do a live set of Queen! Nobody will please everyone as a singer doing Freddie's role. Freddie was truly one of a kind, and obviously, there was never any attempt to "replace" him. I think that's what the source of a lot of the negative criticism is, a notion that Adam is trying to replace Freddie, or that the guys intend that with the Queen+ tours. I was fortunate and got to see Queen twice, in '77 and '78. Is this the same, or as good as those shows? Of course not, but it is a celebration of just how great the music is, that it can live on with a new generation. And Adam is showing himself to by and large be very much up to the task, along with Brian & Roger, of making it a very worthy celebration. |
The Real Wizard 26.06.2014 00:30 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: What are you stay same Queen? The last Queen gig was in 1986....Brian May, Roger Taylor and one of the best frontman of rock history, Mr. Paul Rodgers. I agree Paul never would sang songs like I want to break free....of course, for that, I preffer to listen his stuff than Queen covers, because honestly, this is a tribute band with two original members.Was Black Sabbath a tribute band in 1980? Was Deep Purple a tribute band in 1974? Was Genesis a tribute band in 1976? Is Yes a tribute band now? Is Journey a tribute band now? Chicago? Supertramp? CCR? As long as you realize the difference between indisputable facts and YOUR OPINION. The fact is - the remaining members of a band can do whatever they want with the name and the music. If you don't like it, that's fine. But it doesn't make you a lawyer, a music historian or a judge making a definitive decision of what a band is or isn't. It is merely your opinion. And as long as you know that 15-20 thousand people a night seem to disagree with you... |
Vocal harmony 26.06.2014 07:29 |
The Real Wizard wrote:[/ As long as you realize the difference between indisputable facts and YOUR OPINION. The fact is - the remaining members of a band can do whatever they want with the name and the music. If you don't like it, that's fine. But it doesn't make you a lawyer, a music historian or a judge making a definitive decision of what a band is or isn't. It is merely your opinion. And as long as you know that 15-20 thousand people a night seem to disagree with you...This is so true. I don't understand the unwillingness for people to accept that Queen have wanted to carry on playing their music. They are doing it in a respectful way too. the Queen + name casts no doubt that who ever is singing is not a full time member or replacement, the show references Freddie on a number of occasions. These shows seem to be better received than the PR shows. AL can sing, and with him they seem able to present a wider choice of songs. One thing MR Wizard you forgot that tribute band from Canada, Rush I think they're called. Their drummer left after one album, they ended up with some other guy! ;) |
thomasquinn 32989 26.06.2014 08:43 |
Why is it not OK to dislike/disapprove of this whole project? I don't like Queen rehashing old stuff any more than I like The Rolling Stones rehashing old stuff (and I find them frankly embarrassing, with their whole regiment of supporting musicians to cover up their inability to play a full show), but that is somehow seen as a wicked view to take. You *have* to approve of old have-been rockers trying to relive their former glory, because if you don't, you're a "nazi" or a "fundamentalist", or, in the case of Q+AL, you must be a homophobe Freddie-worshiping (note the irony) ultra-conservative. I have no interest in some synthetic pop-singer (AL), and I don't have any interest in seeing two old rockers, at least one of them half-deaf, pretending it's thirty years ago. |
Mr.QueenFan 26.06.2014 09:05 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: I have no interest in some synthetic pop-singer (AL), and I don't have any interest in seeing two old rockers, at least one of them half-deaf, pretending it's thirty years ago.Good for you, just don't go to the concerts. See how easy it is? But we as Queen fans don't have to read your opinion ad nauseam on what is supposed to be a Queen fan site - a site where it's users like to support Queen. Criticism is healthy. Bringing someone down everytime you post about this subject isn't. Just don't expect to come to a Queen site and attack my beloved band without me or others steping in to defend them. It's repulsive to me and to other music fans - not just Queen fans - to read your's and others remarks about Adam Lambert with every post you make. It only shows where you guys are coming from as persons. Adam is a great vocalist, and nothing you and others here say will change that fact. Nothing! And next time, show some respect to Brian May and Roger Taylor too. Roger may be suffering from deafness, but he is not an old half-deaf rocker. And the reason why he's "half- deaf" now as you put it, is because he gave everything he got in the past so you and others - who only badmouth everything he does today - could have great shows to listen to - like Wembley 86, Live Aid, Montreal, Houston, etc. |
Vocal harmony 26.06.2014 09:33 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Why is it not OK to dislike/disapprove of this whole project? I don't like Queen rehashing old stuff any more than I like The Rolling Stones rehashing old stuff (and I find them frankly embarrassing, with their whole regiment of supporting musicians to cover up their inability to play a full show), but that is somehow seen as a wicked view to take. You *have* to approve of old have-been rockers trying to relive their former glory, because if you don't, you're a "nazi" or a "fundamentalist", or, in the case of Q+AL, you must be a homophobe Freddie-worshiping (note the irony) ultra-conservative. I have no interest in some synthetic pop-singer (AL), and I don't have any interest in seeing two old rockers, at least one of them half-deaf, pretending it's thirty years ago.What a limited view you have. Everyone is entitled to an opinion as to if something is good or not. That will always be something people will have differing views about. What seems wrong to me us when people seem to think that they have the right to dictate whether or not people have the right to do something, as is very often the case here. What is worse is when someone who is regarded as intelligent has the view that age is a problem and band shouldn't rehash. If that's the case nobody should play anything off a previous album. The only people touring should be those who have just released new music because your view amounts to that being all that should be played. As fir the age thing. I hope when/if you reach BM and RT's age someone is there to tell you you're wrong for doing what you love |
Holly2003 26.06.2014 12:30 |
Welcome to Stepford!
Mr.QueenFan wrote: Good for you, just don't go to the concerts. See how easy it is? But we as Queen fans don't have to read your opinion ad nauseam on what is supposed to be a Queen fan site - a site where it's users like to support Queen. Criticism is healthy. Bringing someone down everytime you post about this subject isn't. Just don't expect to come to a Queen site and attack my beloved band without me or others steping in to defend them. It's repulsive to me and to other music fans - not just Queen fans - to read your's and others remarks about Adam Lambert with every post you make. It only shows where you guys are coming from as persons. Adam is a great vocalist, and nothing you and others here say will change that fact. Nothing! And next time, show some respect to Brian May and Roger Taylor too. Roger may be suffering from deafness, but he is not an old half-deaf rocker. And the reason why he's "half- deaf" now as you put it, is because he gave everything he got in the past so you and others - who only badmouth everything he does today - could have great shows to listen to - like Wembley 86, Live Aid, Montreal, Houston, etc. |
Sheer Brass Neck 26.06.2014 12:40 |
"Adam is a great vocalist, and nothing you and others here say will change that fact. Nothing!" That's great, but to take a contrarian point of view, "Adam is a lousy rock vocalist, and nothing you and others here say will change that fact. Nothing!" How is your opinion or anyone else's "fact"? It's an opinion. If you believe your opinion as fact, you must believe that the other person saying Adam as a rock vocalist is lousy is also a fact. Seems very logical. |
Mr.QueenFan 26.06.2014 12:59 |
Holly2003 wrote: Welcome to Stepford!Look who's back! I've already told you everything i think about you in the past. |
pittrek 26.06.2014 13:00 |
Mr.QueenFan wrote:I agree with most of your post except one thing. Adam is NOT a great vocalist. Not YET. Does he have a great vocal range? Oh YES. Does he have talent? Oh yes. But he must work on his technique. Unfortunately he has some very bad habits too. I'm talking about his annoying "improvisations" - please if you know a better term let me know. I noticed even a couple of professionals told him the same thing, e.g. Slash.thomasquinn 32989 wrote: I have no interest in some synthetic pop-singer (AL), and I don't have any interest in seeing two old rockers, at least one of them half-deaf, pretending it's thirty years ago.Good for you, just don't go to the concerts. See how easy it is? But we as Queen fans don't have to read your opinion ad nauseam on what is supposed to be a Queen fan site - a site where it's users like to support Queen. Criticism is healthy. Bringing someone down everytime you post about this subject isn't. Just don't expect to come to a Queen site and attack my beloved band without me or others steping in to defend them. It's repulsive to me and to other music fans - not just Queen fans - to read your's and others remarks about Adam Lambert with every post you make. It only shows where you guys are coming from as persons. Adam is a great vocalist, and nothing you and others here say will change that fact. Nothing! And next time, show some respect to Brian May and Roger Taylor too. Roger may be suffering from deafness, but he is not an old half-deaf rocker. And the reason why he's "half- deaf" now as you put it, is because he gave everything he got in the past so you and others - who only badmouth everything he does today - could have great shows to listen to - like Wembley 86, Live Aid, Montreal, Houston, etc. He just needs more practice in singing rock songs if he plans his future in rock. But the good thing is he is willing to learn. And the good thing is he has really good teachers :-) I remember when I heard the first concert he did with B+R in Ukraine, now known as part of New USSR. He was extremely annoying, his performance was unlistenable. But he got better and better with each concert. I have now listened to 3 concerts from this tour, and I must admit I enjoyed him on 2 of them. He has minimized the annoying stuff and now he's "acceptable". If they do a 2016/2017 tour, he will be REALLY good. |
pittrek 26.06.2014 13:01 |
PS Just to clarify, I listened to the Chicago recording and I enjoyed it |
thomasquinn 32989 27.06.2014 05:18 |
So bottom line, as per usual: you're not allowed to dislike anything Queen-members do, because that would be disloyal. You can't say that aging rockers who are trying to recapture some of their former glory are aging rockers who are trying to recapture some of their former glory, because that would be agist. You can't call AL a synthetic singer just because he was made into a star by a televised talent contest and big record companies, that would be insensitive to AL-fans. I'll just ignore the blatant personal attacks and unjustified claims that I am supposedly constantly ripping on Q+AL because this post would turn to monograph-length simply addressing those unfounded claims. For once I agree with Holly: you're just a bunch of stepford fanatics. If you can put praise for Q+AL on this forum, you can also put criticism on it. If you can't handle that, go live in some totalitarian state where criticism of the national line isn't allowed. One final point: Roger isn't half-deaf because "he gave everything", he's half-deaf because he didn't think of wearing hearing protection, which any smart musician does and has done for many decades. |
Vocal harmony 27.06.2014 06:25 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: So bottom line, as per usual: you're not allowed to dislike anything Queen-members do, because that would be disloyal. You can't say that aging rockers who are trying to recapture some of their former glory are aging rockers who are trying to recapture some of their former glory, because that would be agist. You can't call AL a synthetic singer just because he was made into a star by a televised talent contest and big record companies, that would be insensitive to AL-fans. I'll just ignore the blatant personal attacks and unjustified claims that I am supposedly constantly ripping on Q+AL because this post would turn to monograph-length simply addressing those unfounded claims. For once I agree with Holly: you're just a bunch of stepford fanatics. If you can put praise for Q+AL on this forum, you can also put criticism on it. If you can't handle that, go live in some totalitarian state where criticism of the national line isn't allowed. One final point: Roger isn't half-deaf because "he gave everything", he's half-deaf because he didn't think of wearing hearing protection, which any smart musician does and has done for many decades. |
Vocal harmony 27.06.2014 06:37 |
^^^^ so no one over the age of 25 should be out there playing music no one with more than one album should be playing, anything older would after all be re ashed if played live. RT like a lot of touring musicians from the 70's is half deaf. back then fold back monertering was loud ear protection was not widely used. yes you are entiltled to your views, but if someone doesnt agree with you dont moan about it. try disscussing it, thats the idea of a forum isnt? I know four pro musicians and people in the business who have seen a show on this tour, all of them have come away saying the show is great, really good infact.two of those four saw Queen in the 70's and 80's and they are of the opinion that AL is doing a great job. |
thomasquinn 32989 27.06.2014 06:55 |
Have you ever heard of the term "reduction ad absurdum"? The first part of your post is a textbook example thereof. I am not "moaning" about someone disagreeing with me, I am displeased with the fact that anyone who doesn't wholeheartedly support this tour and its American Idol-vocalist is verbally brutalized and pommeled with all kinds of false accusations and fallacious deductions. Your claim that ear protection was not widely used is highly debatable. A number of, IMHO terribly stupid, musicians didn't, others (including the highly obnoxious U2, formed in '76) did. |
Holly2003 28.06.2014 02:10 |
I don't remember you at all. You must not have said anything interesting. Mr.QueenFan wrote:Holly2003 wrote: Welcome to Stepford!Look who's back! I've already told you everything i think about you in the past. |
The Real Wizard 28.06.2014 12:05 |
Not sure if this has been posted here, but .. link Carry on with the ever-enlightening mudslinging match... |
Mr.QueenFan 28.06.2014 13:45 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Not sure if this has been posted here, but .. link Carry on with the ever-enlightening mudslinging match...Thanks a lot for this link. Good to read the review of someone who was there. |
Vocal harmony 29.06.2014 08:36 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Why is it not OK to dislike/disapprove of this whole project? I don't like Queen rehashing old stuff any more than I like The Rolling Stones rehashing old stuff (and I find them frankly embarrassing, with their whole regiment of supporting musicians to cover up their inability to play a full show), I have no interest in some synthetic pop-singer (AL), and I don't have any interest in seeing two old rockers, at least one of them half-deaf, pretending it's thirty years ago.I was just thinking about this quote. I'm sorry but do you have any knowledge of the history of live music in the last 40 years. The current Queen line up has one extra musician on stage compared to every gig from 82 onwards. Drums, Bass, Keys, Vox, Guitar + Rufus on percussion. Of course. . . The rolling Stones Genisis The Who Journey Iron Maiden Black Sabbath Pink Floyd Hendrix Super Tramp Rush Muse Fleetwood Mac. . . . I could go on with this list. . The point is they've all toured, or still tour with extra musicians. To single the Stones out, who have toured on and off with extra players since 1969. And The current Queen line up is a joke. It shows your willingness to pick fault with something for reasons that you probably already know have no real foundation. Add to that your dislike of old musicians and "rehashed" music your scope for listening to live music must be very limited. The |
thomasquinn 32989 29.06.2014 09:20 |
Where on earth am I saying that I am opposed to touring with extra musicians for Queen or for any other band? Nowhere, because that is not my opinion. I do, however, think that at some point artists who keep touring start to decline, and no matter how great they might still be, I can't help comparing them in my mind to their former selves. That doesn't mean they have to stop playing, merely that I *am of the opinion* that it would be better if they stopped playing. Quite *separately* from that, I don't like AL or the whole American Idol-circuit behind him, and that is simply a matter of personal taste. These two objections are separate and in no way tied together. Any and all musicians are entitled to play and tour as they please, and anyone is entitled to listen to, enjoy and support any music they please. By all means, anyone can attend and enjoy the Queen + AL shows as much as they want, and I *do* hope people who attend will enjoy it, but I personally am not interested and I have just the same freedom as anyone who enjoys this Queen project to express my feelings about it. It's not like I have to be "loyal to the Queen-brand", I hope? I simply enjoy different projects, like The Rainbow, much more and regret that more time isn't invested in that sort of thing. This is simply my personal opinion, which I am free to discuss here. |
Sheer Brass Neck 29.06.2014 09:31 |
^^^ Yes, yes and yes. Intelligent point of view, civil discourse and rational reasoning why he doesn't enjoy the project. Why people can't accept a position like this is beyond me, well said sir. |
Saint Jiub 29.06.2014 20:28 |
someonewholikesadam wrote: Queenzoners, What can you possibly find wrong with this? I'm sure there's something though. Yep. He still has that annoying, soulless, high pitched trill. With the comments that AL is improving, I was having doubts about skipping the Chicago show. I'm glad I saved the money, and took off my rose colored stepford glasses. |
The King Of Rhye 30.06.2014 00:51 |
Vocal harmony wrote:thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Rush MuseThe point is they've all toured, or still tour with extra musicians. To single the Stones out, who have toured on and off with extra players since 1969. And The current Queen line up is a joke. It shows your willingness to pick fault with something for reasons that you probably already know have no real foundation. Add to that your dislike of old musicians and "rehashed" music your scope for listening to live music must be very limited. TheRush toured with extra musicians??? |
The King Of Rhye 30.06.2014 00:57 |
Vocal harmony wrote:thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Of course. . . The rolling Stones Genisis The Who Journey Iron Maiden Black Sabbath Pink Floyd Hendrix Super Tramp Rush Muse Fleetwood Mac. . . . I could go on with this list. .For what its worth..........Journey and Supertramp I find to be good but not great...........and I don't know enough about Muse..............but the rest of those artists.........I have them all on my mp3 player..............that's like total awesomesness there, all those other artists............. |