QueenZone discussion #1385861

MercuryVenus wrote: Car without engine is totally damaged ,cannot even drive slow ,

in my opinion the same situation is with Queen band ,without Freddie Queen doesnt exist ,i can explain in few words why.

Queen havent released any good song since Freddie died in 1991.

Freddie composed the most popular and the best songs with Queen when he was member of that band ,you all may say that other members of queen was also good and they composed also other great songs ,i agree with this but Freddie influence was irreplaceable ,

He created this band and wrote more than 50% songs.

If there was no Freddie living on this earth you might never heard about Queen i swear and i bet.

Freddie Mercury was individual ,amazing person with one of the best voices ever

I also like Brian May know he is great ,awesome guitarist ,Roger is quite good drummer and John Deacon is very good basist but they all are nothing compare to Freddies talent ,skills as a composer.

MercuryVenus wrote: no trolling ,this is true what i wrote ,if you think im trolling please explain one simple thing ,why Queen didnt released any good song since 1991 when Freddie died ,the answer is simple ,Queen without Freddie is nothing and you know that. Dont be rude ,im not trolling just said the truth. And one word about Adam Lambert ,Adam Lambert is very weak singer who dont represent anything ,he isnt even half good like Freddie was ,sorry for my english but im from Poland. Theres no even comparision between Freddie and Lambert ,no even comparision.

MercuryVenus wrote: Car without engine is totally damaged ,cannot even drive slow ,in my opinion the same situation is with Queen band ,without Freddie Queen doesnt exist ,i can explain in few words why. Queen havent released any good song since Freddie died in 1991.Freddie composed the most popular and the best songs with Queen when he was member of that band ,you all may say that other members of queen was also good and they composed also other great songs ,i agree with this but Freddie influence was irreplaceable ,He created this band and wrote more than 50% songs. If there was no Freddie living on this earth you might never heard about Queen i swear and i bet. Freddie Mercury was individual ,amazing person with one of the best voices ever I also like Brian May know he is great ,awesome guitarist ,Roger is quite good drummer and John Deacon is very good basist but they all are nothing compare to Freddies talent ,skills as a composer.

pittrek wrote:

MercuryVenus wrote: Car without engine is totally damaged ,cannot even drive slow ,

A car without an engine can drive if somebody/something gives it the initial push.

MercuryVenus wrote: I dont mean that Queen was only Freddies effort ,i mean that Freddie was majority talent of Queen . Ask someone on street what do you think when you hear Queen Most of people will say Freddie Mercury ,Did you ever saw any concert of Queen with Freddie ,how he was singing ,how he danced ,what personal contact he had with audience. For me Freddie Mercury was the best singer of all times ,listening to Queen will never be boring for me ,and you all says that he wasnt the most important member in Queen. This is ridicilous for me.

TomP63 wrote: However is was once billed Roger Taylor and Queen.

FlorianS wrote: Well, how many Hits did the Freddie-Engine create after 1980 Crazy Little Thing Called Love? If you take a look at their Hits after that it's not too much of Freddie.

MercuryVenus wrote: Ask someone on street what do you think when you hear Queen Most of people will say Freddie Mercury

Day dop wrote: For me, Freddie was always the main thing about Queen. As an example, Queens two biggest stand out achievements would arguably be Bohemian Rhapsody and Live Aid. Both of which were mainly Freddie's doing. Of course, the other members played their part in both of those achievements, and I'm in no way shape or form trying to take anything away from the other members (not that I could), and the other members played brilliantly throughout their careers. Brian May being the second most recognisable out of them all on the ear, and in my view, the second down the line in terms of song-writing. Yes, Brian came up with 39, We Will Rock You, Hammer to Fall etc. But could Brian have come up Killer Queen, We Are the Champions and Bo Rhap? That stuff was Freddie, and as much as a cliche it is to say it - he was larger than life, on stage and in voice certainly, and he had the capability of being so as a songwriter, and often was. It was always about Freddie when you watched them live, or, even if you heard them all, it was always Freddie you mainly had your eyes on, seeing what the'd get up to next - because he was the true showman. Still, the other members were (and are) brilliant songwriters and musicians. It's just that despite Freddie saying he was only 25% of the band, to me he was much more than that. Of course I get HOW he was 25% of the band, but it's mostly Freddie you think of when you think of Queen. Or it is for me anyway. Even the name of the group - Queen. Only Freddie would'd had the balls and the humour to put that name forward. Another way of looking at it... since Freddie died, despite Freddie's song-writing slowly down through the 80s and (early 90s), the band ceased to exist in the same way thereafter. The best thing they've come up with since Freddie's death is Made in Heaven (and that's only because Freddie's voice is on it). Aside from that, it's as if they'd become their own tribute act in a sense. (The Cosmos Rocks wasn't truly anything worth writing home about was it? - Mind you, that's minus Deacon too). Anyway, that's my opinion on the matter. Be it right or wrong. 

pittrek wrote:

MercuryVenus wrote: Car without engine is totally damaged ,cannot even drive slow ,

A car without an engine can drive if somebody/something gives it the initial push.

in my opinion the same situation is with Queen band ,without Freddie Queen doesnt exist ,i can explain in few words why.

You forgot John Deacon. And all the previous bass & keyboard players. They all together formed the band, you know, and all of them were important for the final "product".

Queen havent released any good song since Freddie died in 1991.

I can't agree. I sort of like Made In Heaven and Only the good die young.

Freddie composed the most popular and the best songs with Queen when he was member of that band ,you all may say that other members of queen was also good and they composed also other great songs ,i agree with this but Freddie influence was irreplaceable ,

I'm not sure, "Most popular" and "best" are very subjective terms. From my memory I can remember Rhapsody, Champions and STL to be popular. At least in my country, I know that in some countries stuff like Play The Game and Crazy Little Thing were popular too. But all of them wrote hits and all of them wrote great songs (that's of course not the same thing).

He created this band and wrote more than 50% songs.

I'm not sure. Does joining a band which needs a new singer and changing the name = creating the band? And I didn't count if he wrote more than 50% of their songs, and I'm too lazy to do so now, so I'll trust you on this one.

If there was no Freddie living on this earth you might never heard about Queen i swear and i bet.

Well probably true. Without Freddie they would probably end up being just one of hundreds of pub bands.

Freddie Mercury was individual ,amazing person with one of the best voices ever

I didn't know him personally but from his interviews he doesn't seem like an amazing person to me. More like ... well some things are better left unsaid :-)

I also like Brian May know he is great ,awesome guitarist ,Roger is quite good drummer and John Deacon is very good basist but they all are nothing compare to Freddies talent ,skills as a composer.

I think the past tense would be more appropriate. Brian WAS a great guitarist, Roger WAS a "quite good" drummer and John Deacon WAS a very good bassist. The fact that Brian and Roger got so incredibly weak (at least on their last tour they were really painful to watch) was one of the 2 reasons why I'm not interested in this year's Q+AL tour. Regarding Freddie's talent I alway say - for each "Bohemian Rhapsody" there is a "Body Language" in his catalogue.

Djdownsy wrote: I didn't know him personally but from his interviews he doesn't seem like an amazing person to me. More like ... well some things are better left unsaid :-)

MercuryVenus wrote: Freddie could join any other band without Brian ,Roger and John and become popular and very famous easily  I think this one summs it up. He would sooner or later shine and carry the band to a new level . In the case of Queen we had also to do with some extra decent men and musicians so the resault was truly one of kind and really nice to witnses. Just the right amount of ingridients. Brian, Roger and John made Mercury an even bigger superstar that perhaps any other ensemble of bandmates would ever be capable of, becouse they were intelligent, self conscious individuals. Mercury's over the top idiosynchrasity may have lead to dubious resaults (untamed charisma),  if his colligs had lets say the same amount of musicianship but lacked the extra dimension that was brought by those educated, refined and intelligent bandnates and friends.

Holly2003 wrote: I prefer to think of Queen now as like a foot. Freddie was the foot's big toe, but had to be amputated because err... he had frostbite and developed gangrene while climbing Mt. Everest or something. Lambert is an ankle bracelet. So Queen are now like a old foot without a big toe, but with an ankle bracelet. Not as good, obviously missing something intrinsic, a bit unbalanced, and like all other things English, completely useless at football.