| Mercury fur 08.06.2014 09:44 |
If Queen decided to recreate Queen live at NEW WEMBLEY in the daylight Using a hologram of Freddie Would you go and see it? I know they said they won't But if the technology got so good And in the daylight Freddie running around onto the wings even up and down stairs And it looked really really real Would you want to see it? The on,y thing different would be the live music backing and Brian and Roger older. And the venue But the stage could be the same or slightly different modernised design. if not why do you watch the video/ dvd And if they filmed it the new modern version Would you refuse to buy and watch it on blu ray? A daylight version of that at the massive new WEMBLEY would be amazing and I believe they would sell it out. Yes think modern looking Different design just same track lists with new different backing variations running order etc. All daylight and that gigantium audience All live music with the live vocal. If it was to the standard i envision It would certainly not be boring It would rival live aid as a live event. And they could shoot it in 3d for cinemas and blu ray Aftwards Freddie then would be the best singer in the world The best performer in the world And by far the best hologram The potential for the amazing power of holograms is only fully appreciated by seeing the undoubted unparalleled live performing and audience connection of Freddie Mercury. It is obvious how it would be the best hologram ever. |
| philip storey 08.06.2014 10:16 |
We really need to get a grip the band have laid out their plans and it does include recreating Wembley in the daylight with Freddie running around the stage! |
| Mercury fur 08.06.2014 10:18 |
philip storey wrote: We really need to get a grip the band have laid out their plans and it does include recreating Wembley in the daylight with Freddie running around the stage!Good it should And you dismiss the power of Freddie running around the stage, he is considered the best ever live performer in the world and everyone agrees. And I say it again It would rival Live Aid as an event |
| Chief Mouse 08.06.2014 10:42 |
It would never be true Freddie because in order for movements to look somewhat real they would have to get Freddie to motion capture the movements. Take a look at the new Jackson 'hologram', it's shite, and yeah, they used an impersonator, plus the face didn't look really like him as well. |
| Holly2003 08.06.2014 10:44 |
A ventriloquist's dummy of Fred would be better. |
| Mercury fur 08.06.2014 10:47 |
Chief Mouse wrote: It would never be true Freddie because in order for movements to look somewhat real they would have to get Freddie to motion capture the movements. Take a look at the new Jackson 'hologram', it's shite, and yeah, they used an impersonator, plus the face didn't look really like him as well.Couldn't they just lift the video of Freddie at WEMBLEY and motion capture that? Or if not they could use the Budapest HD one That is clear and good. |
| Mercury fur 08.06.2014 10:49 |
Holly2003 wrote: A ventriloquist's dummy of Fred would be better.No you fail to see what I am saying I am saying a hologram of Freddie's actual performance at WEMBLEY or now BUDAPEST They just lift that and let it run round and be on the stage at the new WEMBLEY arena FULL of People It would be like he is there. His whole performance was to the audience There would be no difference and every eye would be on him as usual, but with live applause What's the capacity of that arena? It would be phenomenal! |
| ANAGRAMER 08.06.2014 11:11 |
Quite simply the most stupid idea on here. Ever |
| Chief Mouse 08.06.2014 11:12 |
Mercury fur wrote:Chief Mouse wrote: It would never be true Freddie because in order for movements to look somewhat real they would have to get Freddie to motion capture the movements. Take a look at the new Jackson 'hologram', it's shite, and yeah, they used an impersonator, plus the face didn't look really like him as well.Couldn't they just lift the video of Freddie at WEMBLEY and motion capture that? Or if not they could use the Budapest HD one That is clear and good. I don't think they would use Wembley because it's shot on tape so the quality isn't good enough for these days. They couldn't use Budapest because they only have the film copy that's cut together already - they don't have variety of angles. Same with Montreal. So they can only use the promo videos that were shot on film - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVtjXMq2sTw Also, surely you mean rotoscoping not motion capture. Motion capture is something like this - http://www-personal.umich.edu/~hamms/portfolio/motioncapture/images/compo_01.jpg This is rotoscoping (cutting out) - http://cgiknowledge.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/rotoscoping_guy_image.jpg No one would ever bother to hand-rotoscope Freddie from a whole concert, I don't know how many years that would take and how much would that cost even if there was a footage perfect for this sort of thing. One song - perhaps, but certainly not a full concert. |
| Mercury fur 08.06.2014 11:21 |
Chief Mouse wrote:The tech would have to be the best possible to make it as perfectly real as possibleMercury fur wrote:I don't think they would use Wembley because it's shot on tape so the quality isn't good enough for these days. They couldn't use Budapest because they only have the film copy that's cut together already - they don't have variety of angles. Same with Montreal. So they can only use the promo videos that were shot on film - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVtjXMq2sTw Also, surely you mean rotoscoping not motion capture. Motion capture is something like this - http://www-personal.umich.edu/~hamms/portfolio/motioncapture/images/compo_01.jpg This is rotoscoping (cutting out) - http://cgiknowledge.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/rotoscoping_guy_image.jpg No one would ever bother to hand-rotoscope Freddie from a whole concert, I don't know how many years that would take and how much would that cost even if there was a footage perfect for this sort of thing. One song - perhaps, but certainly not a full concert.Chief Mouse wrote: It would never be true Freddie because in order for movements to look somewhat real they would have to get Freddie to motion capture the movements. Take a look at the new Jackson 'hologram', it's shite, and yeah, they used an impersonator, plus the face didn't look really like him as well.Couldn't they just lift the video of Freddie at WEMBLEY and motion capture that? Or if not they could use the Budapest HD one That is clear and good. using the real Freddie from the blue ray footage Placed on the stage of the new WEMBLEY arena And just doing the whole show with Queen . No it would have to be a whole concert Or you could not fill an entire stadium Shame if they don't in my opinion Everyone knows Freddie would be the best most interactive proposal for this technology , people reply just when he is on a movie film like at the Olympics thing He is vitally real to them already, a well done fully moving Hologram on a stage dynamically performing a whole show of the set would be successful and the best hologram ever. And Queens perfect timing would allow them to play it blindfolded , but they could tweak the backing and guitar arrangements etc as they wish, to bring it forward and fresh sounding. The music and moment would I think make them seriously forget its a hologram The music would just carry the whole gig along It really would be a kind of magic Lol The whole thing would be so great a spectacle and gig that there would be no negative comments about hologram use. It would be the greatest live event since live aid Truly it would be electric and soooo real!!!!, |
| ANAGRAMER 08.06.2014 11:34 |
Mercury fur wrote:Are you f*cking mad?Chief Mouse wrote:No it would have to be a whole concert Or you could not fill an entire stadium Shame if they don't in my opinion Everyone knows Freddie would be the best most interactive proposal for this technology , people reply just when he is on a movie film like at the Olympics thing He is vitally real to them already, a well done fully moving Hologram on a stage dynamically performing a whole show of the set would be successful and the best hologram ever. And Queens perfect timing would allow them to play it blindfolded , but they could tweak the backing and guitar arrangements etc as they wish, to bring it forward and fresh sounding. The music and moment would I think make them seriously forget its a hologram The music would just carry the whole gig along It really would be a kind of magic Lol The whole thing would be so great a spectacle and gig that there would be no negative comments about hologram use. It would be the greatest live event since live aid Truly it would be electric and soooo real!!!!,Mercury fur wrote:I don't think they would use Wembley because it's shot on tape so the quality isn't good enough for these days. They couldn't use Budapest because they only have the film copy that's cut together already - they don't have variety of angles. Same with Montreal. So they can only use the promo videos that were shot on film - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVtjXMq2sTw Also, surely you mean rotoscoping not motion capture. Motion capture is something like this - http://www-personal.umich.edu/~hamms/portfolio/motioncapture/images/compo_01.jpg This is rotoscoping (cutting out) - http://cgiknowledge.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/rotoscoping_guy_image.jpg No one would ever bother to hand-rotoscope Freddie from a whole concert, I don't know how many years that would take and how much would that cost even if there was a footage perfect for this sort of thing. One song - perhaps, but certainly not a full concert.Chief Mouse wrote: It would never be true Freddie because in order for movements to look somewhat real they would have to get Freddie to motion capture the movements. Take a look at the new Jackson 'hologram', it's shite, and yeah, they used an impersonator, plus the face didn't look really like him as well.Couldn't they just lift the video of Freddie at WEMBLEY and motion capture that? Or if not they could use the Budapest HD one That is clear and good. For a million reasons, this event will NEVER take place and neither should it |
| Mercury fur 08.06.2014 11:38 |
We will see |
| Marknow 08.06.2014 11:40 |
Freddie is dead, get over it. |
| Chief Mouse 08.06.2014 11:41 |
Dude, it's not possible to make a full concert like this just yet. Have you seen any? Also, it would never look *soooo real!!!!*, I bet it would look just as fake as the Jackson hologram. And, to be honest, no such 'hologram' yet exists like (I suppose) you imagine - stuff in 3D like Star Wars. Best you could get would be like cartoon image, see this - link If we are talking about rotoscoping - it would look real if done well. But it wouldn't be possible to make it appear *live* to live audience. It would just have to be shown on a big screen I imagine. Not to mention it's just impossible to rotoscope Freddie frame by frame from 2 hour footage that doesn't even really exist to begin with because Wembley wasn't shot on film. Why would this be needed anyway? Just buy the Wembley DVD and watch it on a big screen, rent a cinema to show it to your friends, I don't know. |
| Mercury fur 08.06.2014 11:44 |
Chief Mouse wrote: Dude, it's not possible to make a full concert like this just yet. Have you seen any? Also, it would never look *soooo real!!!!*, I bet it would look just as fake as the Jackson hologram. And, to be honest, no such 'hologram' yet exists like (I suppose) you imagine - stuff in 3D like Star Wars. Best you could get would be like cartoon image, see this - link If we are talking about rotoscoping - it would look real if done well. But it wouldn't be possible to make it appear *live* to live audience. It would just have to be shown on a big screen I imagine. Not to mention it's just impossible to rotoscope Freddie frame by frame from 2 hour footage that doesn't even really exist to begin with because Wembley wasn't shot on film. Why would this be needed anyway? Just buy the Wembley DVD and watch it on a big screen, rent a cinema to show it to your friends, I don't know.Man it would be shiny and new 21 century They could even give him a new costume design and the music will be new versions of guitar and backing and lights Wow ow it would be incredible But it would be the blu ray film So why afraid of that? They just add to it Change the costume and set design in that massive capacity filled WEMBLEY arena Wow wow wow! Soon it will be possible though People used to be afraid of movies you know There an old clip of a train they got and people thought it was going to come out of the screen at them back when they first invented moving pictures Can't get afraid of this great new technology It would be an amazing event The musical event of the century! |
| Chief Mouse 08.06.2014 11:54 |
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| Mercury fur 08.06.2014 12:08 |
Very short sighted option chief mouse This is the 21 century Such technology is not voodoo you know It will only get better and better |
| pittrek 08.06.2014 13:29 |
link |
| philip storey 08.06.2014 14:43 |
Total and utter crap, i have read some shit on this site before ,but today is the biggest load of tripe i have ever read.I can only asume that your medication is not working ! |
| Nitroboy 08.06.2014 15:21 |
So this is the new way to troll? |
| Cruella de Vil 08.06.2014 19:32 |
Delusional crap. Maybe some people just like to see their thoughts up there on the internet. Useless noodlings of an idle mind |
| The Real Wizard 09.06.2014 00:42 |
^ agreed. Some people need to get a life ... or at least, better musical taste. Surely there must be better ways to enjoy music than to fantasize about bringing a dead singer back to life. |
| jacksonmerc 09.06.2014 06:15 |
Queen were never afraid to try new things. I would certainly be there if it was possible to create the magic once more. As well patronised by the number of posters; Freddie is dead, but his music is not. Would you have been happy if QP had stopped releasing at VHS releases? We now enjoy the vibrant sound and picture dvd and blu ray brings. Why not take the next step? Don't get so cut up about what Freddie regarded as a disposable product. " when I'm dead who cares? I certainly don't! " |
| Vocal harmony 09.06.2014 06:45 |
I think the problem here is that Mercury Fur has no understanding of how holographic images are generated or projected. Also why would the show be in day light. queen never played in day light unless they had no choice. Many outdoor venues have strict rules regarding performance times. In venues that didn't Queen went on stage as late as possible to take advantage of the dark. Why spend vast amounts of money on lights that you can't use. Why would anyone buy tickets to see a projection of a singer when they can sit in comfort at home and watch the original gig on Blu Ray without the risk of being in the back row of an 80,000 capacity crowd. |
| Costa86 10.06.2014 05:41 |
As the others have said, this is completely impossible, not only from a technological standpoint, but also from a pratical and marketing standpoint - not to mention that it would be ridiculous and amateur for a band like Queen to do something of the sort. Even if the technology exists, or will soon exist, it would never be done, for the aforementioned reasons. Nobody wants to attend a concert showing a cut and paste job of Freddie prancing around and singing from one or several old concerts, recycled for 2014, with an old Brian and Roger playing away. It would be absolutely daft. I wouldn't even entertain it as a fantasy in my head. |
| john bodega 10.06.2014 07:24 |
"It would be absolutely daft. I wouldn't even entertain it as a fantasy in my head" No more daft than the musical. I'm having a great time imagining it, actually - it'd be hilarious. |
| Costa86 10.06.2014 07:34 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "It would be absolutely daft. I wouldn't even entertain it as a fantasy in my head" No more daft than the musical. I'm having a great time imagining it, actually - it'd be hilarious.I'm quite looking forward to the new musical actually. I'm sure it will be the same sort of 'average' work which the original one was (i.e. nothing to write home about), but at least it's a less clichéd way of keeping Queen interesting than re-creating Freddie on stage. |
| maths15 20.07.2014 13:47 |
what an excellent idea, they'd have to do John as well. |
| maths15 20.07.2014 13:48 |
Hold, just had a thought, what about John Entwhisltle on bass? |
| softcalavera2 20.07.2014 14:01 |
Two points: First: This is in "Serious discussion" (!) Second: Like the videogames: "Winners don't use drugs" |
| brENsKi 20.07.2014 15:48 |
Mercury fur wrote:so 90,000 at wembley watching an Obi Wan Kenobi type image with two pensioners accompanying him for added authencity....sounds like the mother, father and kindly uncle of all freakshowsphilip storey wrote: We really need to get a grip the band have laid out their plans and it does include recreating Wembley in the daylight with Freddie running around the stage!Good it should And you dismiss the power of Freddie running around the stage, he is considered the best ever live performer in the world and everyone agrees. And I say it again It would rival Live Aid as an event |
| inu-liger 20.07.2014 16:20 |
Among other unrealistic expectations, I HIGHLY doubt they will be able to play a whole concert TO a click track in order to maintain synchronization with Freddie AT the original tempos. Roger especially does not play at the overall speeds like he used to 30 years ago. |
| brENsKi 20.07.2014 16:33 |
and ^^^ one smart bollox with the ability to hack the wi-fi renders the whole shooting match the shambles it was always likely to be |
| inu-liger 20.07.2014 23:55 |
I'm a wee bit confused what you mean by that? :D |