| Mercury fur 08.06.2014 08:39 |
If they could and if its true, as I heard that Michael Jackson's producers could make any new MJ music because they have a complete library of all his voice and can make albums forever out of it Because of the new technology If that's is true and that is possible I say yes Make new music with Freddie Using this technique I don't care it's not original demos And only using the library of his voice sounds Do it It certainly is not a boring idea. |
| Vocal harmony 08.06.2014 09:01 |
An album with Freddie's vocal sounds but with no other input, eg song writing, piano playing or actually singing an original song. Really? Why not go the whole way and make a new Queen album with no Queen members on it, which doesn't contain anything written by any of them! |
| Mercury fur 08.06.2014 09:08 |
Vocal harmony wrote: An album with Freddie's vocal sounds but with no other input, eg song writing, piano playing or actually singing an original song. Really? Why not go the whole way and make a new Queen album with no Queen members on it, which doesn't contain anything written by any of them!No obviously the songs would be written by Brian and Roger. But my question is , is it possible to do that Or is the claim that if you have a library of sounds of a vocalist you can virtually just make any new songs using that voice, just bullshit? If it is possible and can sound like a real vocal The people in here would have hours of fun trying to work out where the original vocal sounds came from from which songs they were taken etc. But obviously this would have to sound real and not a cut up thing. |
| Vocal harmony 08.06.2014 09:27 |
The point I was trying to make was that music, pariculally vocals need to be performed with passion and feeling. I don't think a device that auto tunes and artificially enhances melody would produce a very listenable sound And if the technology is real, you could take it to the extreme of producing an album, be it Queen, Led Zeppelin or the Beatles or who ever, where none of those bands members actually play on anything. |
| Mercury fur 08.06.2014 09:30 |
Vocal harmony wrote: The point I was trying to make was that music, pariculally vocals need to be performed with passion and feeling. I don't think a device that auto tunes and artificially enhances melody would produce a very listenable sound And if the technology is real, you could take it to the extreme of producing an album, be it Queen, Led Zeppelin or the Beatles or who ever, where none of those bands members actually play on anything.No the whole point would be to lift the various voice sounds and fit them to new music No emotion? We are talking about Freddie Mercury. The question remains is the technology real and how good a job does it do What can it produce and what can it do. And if it does a good job queen would only release it if it was good enough and they would know if its good enough. And as you say, if it was to a standard that worked It could be revolutionary! People love those classic bands And to hear something completely new like that As long as some of the original people are still involved in producing and doing the songs the new parts of music etc It would sell like hot cake's and would be amazing to hear completely new songs It's like an audio hologram But would be better than a visual one. Because it would have to sound perfect for them to do it Those visual holograms look crap like drawn faces The MJ one was a drawn face I could have done better |
| Chief Mouse 08.06.2014 10:38 |
Mercury fur wrote: If they could and if its true, as I heard that Michael Jackson's producers could make any new MJ music because they have a complete library of all his voice and can make albums forever out of it Because of the new technology They certainly don't have the whole library. 6/8 songs had already leaked on the internet when the Xscape released. Even if there is any technology, it certainly wasn't used for the Xscape. All they did was make a new instrumental and put Jackson's accapella on it from the demos - the voice wasn't altered. |
| Holly2003 08.06.2014 10:47 |
What a soulless piece of shit that album would be. Go listen to a live band ffs! |
| Mercury fur 08.06.2014 10:52 |
Holly2003 wrote: What a soulless piece of shit that album would be. Go listen to a live band ffs!I like Freddie's voice. |
| ANAGRAMER 08.06.2014 11:36 |
Mercury fur wrote:Put a CD on then.Holly2003 wrote: What a soulless piece of shit that album would be. Go listen to a live band ffs!I like Freddie's voice. |
| ANAGRAMER 08.06.2014 11:38 |
Mercury fur wrote: If they could and if its true, as I heard that Michael Jackson's producers could make any new MJ music because they have a complete library of all his voice and can make albums forever out of it Because of the new technology If that's is true and that is possible I say yes Make new music with Freddie Using this technique I don't care it's not original demos And only using the library of his voice sounds Do it It certainly is not a boring idea.Yes, that's a great idea. Am sure QPL are well up for that |
| Mercury fur 08.06.2014 11:39 |
Hope so |
| jacksonmerc 08.06.2014 11:54 |
Its worth a try. Since Freddies opinion was that his music was a disposable product and that he liked to try something new. |
| Mercury fur 08.06.2014 12:04 |
jacksonmerc wrote: Its worth a try. Since Freddies opinion was that his music was a disposable product and that he liked to try something new.That's the spirit Onwards and onwards Always new always use the best modern techniques Don't become old fashioned fudy duddies. Don't get left behind always look forward ever Forward! |
| ANAGRAMER 08.06.2014 13:19 |
ANAGRAMER wrote:Erm. I believe my sarcastic tone might have got lost above....Mercury fur wrote: If they could and if its true, as I heard that Michael Jackson's producers could make any new MJ music because they have a complete library of all his voice and can make albums forever out of it Because of the new technology If that's is true and that is possible I say yes Make new music with Freddie Using this technique I don't care it's not original demos And only using the library of his voice sounds Do it It certainly is not a boring idea.Yes, that's a great idea. Am sure QPL are well up for that |
| emrabt 08.06.2014 13:24 |
The Michael Jackson stuff is a mix of stuff that never made it onto albums and demos of songs he wrote for other people, for example, "love never felt so good" was for Jonny Mathis and released in 1983, “this is it” was written for Sa-Fire in 1991. Much like made in heven. |
| pittrek 08.06.2014 13:30 |
Don't give them any crazy ideas |
| master marathon runner 08.06.2014 13:39 |
Well I've read some shit on QZ in my time, but this really takes the biscuit. What a pile of old bollocks.frikken hell. |
| Iwasborntoloveyou 08.06.2014 14:21 |
Its a pretty complex subject. There are good points and bad. One of the good points is we could be bringing Queen back in to the picture with hits off the album. Plus John,Brian and Roger could make a ton of money if it all goes to plan. However, like a lot of people have said, this is Freddie Mercury we're talking about. The best musician ever to exist! The Made In Heaven album turned out well but Freddie purposely recorded himself singing. But today you can edit past voice recordings and made something new out of it. Like I said its pretty confusing. It's really up to Freddie but sadly he can't give his opinion. I don't really have an opinion on this but if I had to say something it would to perhaps make a few songs and put them on an album but a lot of people (including me) will know that that's not the REAL Freddie Mercury and NO ONE will ever compare to him. |
| jacksonmerc 09.06.2014 01:35 |
"I hate doing the same things, i like to see what's happening now" - Freddie mercurys opinion in the musical prostitute interview |
| Vocal harmony 09.06.2014 12:19 |
Holly2003 wrote: What a soulless piece of shit that album would be. Go listen to a live band ffs!Agreed! Technology manipulating human input. Not a good thing |
| Costa86 10.06.2014 05:49 |
Mercury fur, you have some funny ideas. I'm not saying this in a disparaging manner, and please don't be put off by some of the overly stern comments from your fellow posters. But keep in my mind that part of Freddie's legend was created specifically BECAUSE of his death. He was a star when he died, but he became truly legendary after this death, and this legend continues to increase. By creating artificial Freddie material (e.g. artificial songs, artificial concerts), you'd basically be destroying the legend by trying to bring him partially back to life. Freddie's dead. People last saw him live at Knebworth, and heard his last song, 'Mother Love' in 1995 - and that is the image they have in their heads - Freddie in his yellow jacket, greater than anything. You don't want to change that with something made by a computer. A few unheard songs sung by Freddie is fine (i.e. what will be on Queen Forever), but not something made artificially. |
| Adam Baboolal 10.06.2014 10:18 |
Better to celebrate what he did rather than something completely made up. |
| Chief Mouse 10.06.2014 10:31 |
Costa86 wrote: Mercury fur, you have some funny ideas. I'm not saying this in a disparaging manner, and please don't be put off by some of the overly stern comments from your fellow posters. But keep in my mind that part of Freddie's legend was created specifically BECAUSE of his death. He was a star when he died, but he became truly legendary after this death, and this legend continues to increase. By creating artificial Freddie material (e.g. artificial songs, artificial concerts), you'd basically be destroying the legend by trying to bring him partially back to life. Freddie's dead. People last saw him live at Knebworth, and heard his last song, 'Mother Love' in 1995 - and that is the image they have in their heads - Freddie in his yellow jacket, greater than anything. You don't want to change that with something made by a computer. A few unheard songs sung by Freddie is fine (i.e. what will be on Queen Forever), but not something made artificially. Nice post :) |
| Heavenite 11.06.2014 05:14 |
I definitely agree with the above. But there is a halfway house on this. If Freddie has been involved in the creation of some really inspired bits of work that never got fully completed, then Brian and Roger finishing that stuff off makes sense to me. Just as they did with MIH! And the song Feelings Feelings came out with the rereleased studio albums on the NOTW EP. And that was take 9 or take 10 or something. It's probably just an OK song, so maybe they thought we'll give them one original track with the set. But if so many takes of that previously unknown song appeared, and it was worth sort of "sacrificing" it on the box set rather than putting it on a new album, well it makes me think there might be plenty more where that one came from. Not even any need to go to "song scraps", so to speak. And it should also be remembered that before Freddie died, he asked the others to give him words and music for him to sing precisely so it could be released later! Given these facts, It would seem to me that releasing anything other than songs with completely artificial Freddie singing on them, has his blessing. So Brian and Roger (and possibly also John too, if much of this stuff was worked on soon after Pro Tools came into being) are doing what they are doing with Freddie's blessing. The only other thing, as far as I'm concerned is that it be also done up to a standard that Freddie would have approved of. So far I think the three remaining members get a huge tick for MIH and based on that output, I am confident that Brian and Roger (and maybe John) will only put out Freddie involved material that is up to a standard that Queen fans and Freddie would expect. |
| ITSM 11.06.2014 06:13 |
Yes, maybe(?) they could finish a couple of songs using this technology, like "You Are The Only One," but I'm not sure if I want them to. |
| emrabt 11.06.2014 06:28 |
"This technology" isn't used for anything, it's only in the OP's head. They haven't made michael jackson songs from it. |