QueenZone discussion #1383799

Mr.QueenFan wrote: Great news! This is going to be a wonderful year for Queen.

SweetCaroline wrote: What started out as a North America tour is fast becoming a WORLD TOUR!

A Word In Your Ear wrote: Out of curiosity does the North American dates have the same Layout?

Marknow wrote:

A Word In Your Ear wrote: Out of curiosity does the North American dates have the same Layout?

Yes

Pierre wrote: Looks like à big vinyl player

jondickens1 wrote: I'm not a fan of Lambert by any stretch of the imagination,but I am somewhat put out the Brian and Roger haven't added at least 1 UK date to this tour. Is this down to the fact that in the UK hardly anyone has even heard of Adam Lambert and therefore ticket sales may be poor? Even so I feel snubbed by Roger and Brian and upset that I may never get a chance to see them live again.

jondickens1 wrote: I'm not a fan of Lambert by any stretch of the imagination,but I am somewhat put out the Brian and Roger haven't added at least 1 UK date to this tour. Is this down to the fact that in the UK hardly anyone has even heard of Adam Lambert and therefore ticket sales may be poor? Even so I feel snubbed by Roger and Brian and upset that I may never get a chance to see them live again.

jondickens1 wrote: I'm not a fan of Lambert by any stretch of the imagination,but I am somewhat put out the Brian and Roger haven't added at least 1 UK date to this tour. Is this down to the fact that in the UK hardly anyone has even heard of Adam Lambert and therefore ticket sales may be poor? Even so I feel snubbed by Roger and Brian and upset that I may never get a chance to see them live again.

jondickens1 wrote: I'm not a fan of Lambert by any stretch of the imagination,but I am somewhat put out the Brian and Roger haven't added at least 1 UK date to this tour. Is this down to the fact that in the UK hardly anyone has even heard of Adam Lambert and therefore ticket sales may be poor? Even so I feel snubbed by Roger and Brian and upset that I may never get a chance to see them live again.

SweetCaroline wrote: Review from July 11, 2012: link

CruellaDeVille wrote: Anyone in Australia notice the complete lack of TV/Radio advertising? Whilst it rated a brief mention amongst the news on some channels, there has been nothing that would inform the general public and so ensure something like a full house. I'm happy if this lasts up until the pre-sale tickets tomorrow, but people in the promotions department need a kick up the arse!

SweetCaroline wrote: Why do you care? I was posting it for jondickens1 who may have not seen it before and because he thinks that Adam is unknown in the UK. It's my favorite link regarding the previous QAL collaborations!

Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Why do you care? I was posting it for jondickens1 who may have not seen it before and because he thinks that Adam is unknown in the UK. It's my favorite link regarding the previous QAL collaborations!

You post it over and over again...it's like your go to link when you don't have much to add for yourself It's coming across as spam. Are you hoping to change people's minds because of what is said in the link, or is it just more crappy promotion?

Queenfansunite wrote: Queen zone will have to be promoted before this forum is affective in promoting Adam lambert Lol Hence The charge of promoting Adam is ludicrous And this particular forum is set aside for the possible praise of Adam, so it should be no suprise the constant enthusiasm for him in here. Anyone who is attacking praise of Adam in this forum should be told to stop. Again I think a special forum for "Haters of anything" Should be made, then all the negative stuff will be kept off ALL the other forums and kept in one PIT of HaTe There is no point, Adam is touring with Queen and no one can do anything about that All the conversations opposed to Adam touring with Queen end up attacking the people who support Adam with Queen and it ends up as attacks on individuals, which is wrong!

taptap wrote:

Queenfansunite wrote: Queen zone will have to be promoted before this forum is affective in promoting Adam lambert Lol Hence The charge of promoting Adam is ludicrous And this particular forum is set aside for the possible praise of Adam, so it should be no suprise the constant enthusiasm for him in here. Anyone who is attacking praise of Adam in this forum should be told to stop. Again I think a special forum for "Haters of anything" Should be made, then all the negative stuff will be kept off ALL the other forums and kept in one PIT of HaTe There is no point, Adam is touring with Queen and no one can do anything about that All the conversations opposed to Adam touring with Queen end up attacking the people who support Adam with Queen and it ends up as attacks on individuals, which is wrong!

While I agree in general, I don't think any particular sub-forum or thread is restricted to praise only.  People can be negative.  Icy's different in that she uses that negativity to attack posters, rather than the music or musician.  But I also think it's okay for people to make fools of themselves if that's their choice, so whatever.  She'd just better be able to take it in turn if she wants to keep dishing it out.  She's pretty one-note so it's not exactly creative fun, but it's a mild form of entertainment regardless.

Queenfansunite wrote:

taptap wrote:

Queenfansunite wrote: Queen zone will have to be promoted before this forum is affective in promoting Adam lambert Lol Hence The charge of promoting Adam is ludicrous And this particular forum is set aside for the possible praise of Adam, so it should be no suprise the constant enthusiasm for him in here. Anyone who is attacking praise of Adam in this forum should be told to stop. Again I think a special forum for "Haters of anything" Should be made, then all the negative stuff will be kept off ALL the other forums and kept in one PIT of HaTe There is no point, Adam is touring with Queen and no one can do anything about that All the conversations opposed to Adam touring with Queen end up attacking the people who support Adam with Queen and it ends up as attacks on individuals, which is wrong!

While I agree in general, I don't think any particular sub-forum or thread is restricted to praise only.  People can be negative.  Icy's different in that she uses that negativity to attack posters, rather than the music or musician.  But I also think it's okay for people to make fools of themselves if that's their choice, so whatever.  She'd just better be able to take it in turn if she wants to keep dishing it out.  She's pretty one-note so it's not exactly creative fun, but it's a mild form of entertainment regardless.

While it may be entertaining to see such bickering, I think it is an unhealthy environment and is not conducive to worthwhile debate . It is because of the tendency for people in here to launch into personal attacks on fellow posters, instead of attacking a queen project, that the creation of a sub forum for the posting of opposition and general hate of anything in the queen universe Would be better. Anything that enables personal attacks of the vicious nasty cruel kind that I have read here, is not good for any forum. And surely such personal attacks are already against queen zone rules? To continue in this way makes this forum look REDICULOUS and it will not be seen by the general public as a serious forum dedicated to the best band in the world.

Queenfansunite wrote: Tap tap The thing is, this is how the whole forum has been, it is not just the event of Adam lambert touring with Queen this year. I n general the forum is full of harassment and attacks on posters. And It is my opinion that those of us who want a forum that allows everyone to speak freely without attack false accusation and bullying , we should make a stand against this group who try to rule the roost here and because they shout the loudest have the ear of the moderators and are invariably effective in the gang stalking and bullying of many people here, and have been doing so over the years. The general attitude of this gang is they think they can get away with anything and they are right because they do and have. It is time this forum was run against the grain of those who want to run it as a place to bully people. And it is time the majority speak out against this cancerous minority.

Queenfansunite wrote: Yes I am glad to see you agree that it is the fault of the moderators also, they are complicit, it irks me to see self righteous posts by them as they are obviously talking the talk, but have decided to show favour to the long term members who are a bunch of bullies.

Queenfansunite wrote: Tap tap , how can you say there is no favour shown to bullies here by the mods? Did you see what inuliger managed to get away with saying to sweet Caroline,? and as for icy she is constantly allowed to attack anything you post in this Adam lambert forum, like a Gary she swoops on all your posts as if you have no right to say anything, now if that is not evidence that the mods here allow bullies to thrive, I do not know what kind if evidence you need. I can Attest to it I am A victim of it myself, there is mod corruption here on queen as well as on the queen online forum. And there is the continued no banning of bullies like inuliger, that shows also there is a promotion of bullying , if your the right person you don't get banned and can get away with murder. My posts were about the biopic, his posts were about attacking members a grandmother! As well as myself being banned before for posting on a subject the gang do not like to be in this forum, and their clever escalation of conflicts, I have seen others banned here, after a similar gang attack on one person, who then falls for answering the bullies back and ends up banned, while the bullies, the gang remain intact, even more powerful!

Queenfansunite wrote: I refer to the gang stalking of posters here on queen zone forums Bullying you and sweet Caroline and harassing you both for everything you post Like icy stalks you two here Maybe you think I am the exception to the rule then, but I have seen others banned unjustly, but one thing is certain, I know the bullies are never banned. Anyway enough is enough If the mods can ban me for wanting to post about the biopic, why can't they be bothered to ban people for bullying.? Or at least tell them to stop bullying. I am awaiting Brian May's " no to bullying of humans on his own queen forums campaign "

Queenfansunite wrote: ...Maybe you think I am the exception to the rule then, but I have seen others banned unjustly, but one thing is certain, I know the bullies are never banned....  taptap wrote: I haven't been here very long, which probably explains why I haven't become aware of any bannings.  I did see Barb's post about their policy of letting the forum self-regulate except in the worst-case example, and that was in response to an old-timer trying to get new-comers banned.  She declined, and I thought she made the right call.  I'm very sorry to hear you got caught up in such a thing.

inu-liger wrote: You're making it sound as if I'm against ALL newcomers. No, I suggested a ban because of all the AL spam* that you and Carol were producing from the get go as soon as you arrived on QZ. There has been previous precedent for removing users for that type of behaviour (joining QZ with the intent to ban), however in this case Barb disagreed and consulted with Richard to repurpose this subforum for you guys. Contrary to what MEDUSA thinks, the "old timers" here don't have THAT much pull as you yourselves noted the admins have a very easygoing handsfree "moderation" policy on here. *Speaking of spam, MEDUSA you were banned here and on QOL because of your excessive spamming involving the blog you created in response to the Freddie biopic production, as well as your YouTube videos and the duplicate topics centered on your hate-filled campaign to get Sacha Baron Cohen removed from the movie in favour of some no name actor that none of us ever heard about. Several people other than myself complained to Barb about you, since you refused to cut down on the excess spam. And you were banned again for ban evading, when you rejoined to try and pull the same shit again. To be honest, this topic has the most surprising amount of postings I have ever seen from you that do not selfishly revolve around your blog.

inu-liger wrote: You're making it sound as if I'm against ALL newcomers. No, I suggested a ban because of all the AL spam* that you and Carol were producing from the get go as soon as you arrived on QZ. There has been previous precedent for removing users for that type of behaviour (joining QZ with the intent to ban), however in this case Barb disagreed and consulted with Richard to repurpose this subforum for you guys. Contrary to what MEDUSA thinks, the "old timers" here don't have THAT much pull as you yourselves noted the admins have a very easygoing handsfree "moderation" policy on here. *Speaking of spam, MEDUSA you were banned here and on QOL because of your excessive spamming involving the blog you created in response to the Freddie biopic production, as well as your YouTube videos and the duplicate topics centered on your hate-filled campaign to get Sacha Baron Cohen removed from the movie in favour of some no name actor that none of us ever heard about. Several people other than myself complained to Barb about you, since you refused to cut down on the excess spam. And you were banned again for ban evading, when you rejoined to try and pull the same shit again. To be honest, this topic has the most surprising amount of postings I have ever seen from you that do not selfishly revolve around your blog.

Queenfansunite wrote: For instance, in liger what he did was covered up yet again! Even by queen fan who edited his capture of what he said

Mr.QueenFan wrote:

Queenfansunite wrote: For instance, in liger what he did was covered up yet again! Even by queen fan who edited his capture of what he said

You're wrong! I didn't edit my capture of Inu-Liger's post to cover up what was said. I did it, because both he and i agreed on it. I saw a genuine response from him about the anxiety and other factors - that are well known to members in general - and that was enough for me! This forum is not moderated, so i really appreciated that Inu offered his explanation about what was happening. ____________________________________________ Now you Queenfansunite, i'm very surprised to see you are Medusa. I would have never guessed! If you start writing more posts like you did here, people reaction to you will be very different from the past.

Queenfansunite wrote: My posts on the biopic should have been allowed.

The hate replies from you and the gang is what was wrong. I did not spam the forum I was posting on a subject that was relevant the Freddie Mercury biopic which is a Upcoming Queen project

should I not be allowed my opinion , I mean I def had one, and it was not a trivial pedestrian opinion , just like Adam lambert enthusiasts, it was and is a very detailed opinion backed up by years of dedication.

And while it is true that I had a lot to show on the topic, it was like that because I had I dedicated myself to the biopic.

There was no justifiable reason for banning me , but there was very valid reasons for those attacking me to be banned, as they chose to personally attack me and single my posts out with a campaign of bullying harassment. I was disavowed my right to free speech on the subject matter I chose to be interested in, and was blacklisted by you and your gang of bullies.

The same attack is now under way against sweet Caroline and tap tap, who while not about to banned as that would be too obvious, are still suffering the attacks of both icy and you inuliger. why do you not just let them get on with posting what they wish on the subject of Adam lambert , what exactly is the problem with them or anyone voicing their opinions and posting their links to the subject they are interested in? I just do not understand why you do this attack on people, there is no justifiable reason I can see for this .

My posts comprised of my interest in the biopic and things I had done for it , such as the cast and videos showing how good they look etc, but yours and most of the regular gangs posts are ridicule and bullying of other people whatever the subject matter.

I do not like people who's main aim in life seems to be a need to control others and bully them, you can come out with all sorts of accusations against others, to me you say my posts were spam, I do not see all the work I did making my videos as spam, they took me ages to do, as did my blog. You just like to insult me it seems by calling my stuff spam. but I have seen your bullying of others and myself inuliger, and you spam your bullying as that is all you seem to do, when you have people in here who are not part of your group, yes you spam your bullying then and attack in a spam of hatred.

So don't give me that, why don't you be reasonable and live and let live? Then if we could debate properly i could debate you wether or not a newcomer a unknown face would be better to portray Freddie than anyone known.

My constant arguments against Sacha were not a hate campaign, they were a creative attack done in good humour, but making a serious point, which in the end Queen themselves agreed with.

And as I have posted on my blog, I would like to see Sacha play the retired section Freddie, based upon my idea of how to best format the storyline.

I want the film to be in 3 parts, and the retired section would be a axis pin, to tell Freddie's story in a novel and interesting way, and add an creative element to keep the movie full of things to look forward to instead of only looking back as bio stories can be rather stale and difficult to make original in the way the story unfolds, most options have been used and my idea of how to lay out the story was far more interesting than just chronological or the one moment in time format they appear to be going for with a reflection back aspect.

SweetCaroline wrote: More: link

Queenfansunite wrote:And as for your saying my still wanting Sacha to play Freddie retired is a turn around, It isn't, as I told Brian May that when I sent him a script idea a few months before the night before I sent him the picture of Jeremy Kapone which is the header of my blog, the morning after I sent that , he announced that Sacha would NOT be portraying Freddie. · · · · · But you can imagine my sense of VICTORY ( I cannot wait for my TUNE) , when straight after I sent Brian May the picture of Jeremy Kapone as Freddie , the picture that now is "THE BANNER" on my blog , he announced that Sacha Baron Cohen shall NOT be playing Freddie in the movie, literally hours after I sent him that picture. This is THE picture that got Sacha out of the biopic

And you cannot fail to see the " Q " either for the sake of Jeremy's Eye- the Eyes have it, don't you think?

Zebonka12 wrote: "there is a body of actual scientific evidence that proves acute immune deficiency is caused by the aids drugs" ie. I saw it on a Youtube clip once and decided it's a lot more reliable than, I dunno - actual science.

SweetCaroline wrote: Back to Australia: "Queen & Adam Lambert Announce Australia Tour" link

Zebonka12 wrote: "Adam has performed many times in Australia and is well respected there" I meet too many Queen fans here to take that entirely seriously, but I've a feeling the shows will sell. The attitude among most of the people I've spoken to is "ugh, but fuck it - Brian and Roger won't be coming back after this, might as well go". And if Nickelback can sell out a show, I have to believe half of Queen could at least get a few seats filled.

guild93 wrote: There's a Facebook page for the Australian tour: link

SweetCaroline wrote: What does all of this have to do with Queen expanding their tour to Australia and possibly New Zealand? Ha! Ha!

inu-liger wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: What does all of this have to do with Queen expanding their tour to Australia and possibly New Zealand? Ha! Ha!

I originally missed this post in the midst of MEDUSA's trolling (which I see now has been quashed again). It's part of his online persona's raison d'être, to hijack other posts with posts that lead to his own self interests. Kind of ironic in a way, but I'll leave it at that ;-) Anyways back to your regularly scheduled topical programming...

inu-liger wrote: Anyways back on topic, I hope the fans in Adelaide and New Zealand will be successful in petitioning for shows there.

inu-liger wrote: Definitely the Edmonton one, but looking just as forward to the Calgary show. It will be really nice to have two full days to spend in Calgary, hoping to make the most out of it with 'round the city sightseeing and visiting friends there. Honestly, Calgary really makes Edmonton look like a dump (but then nearly ANY major Canadian city would! ;) )

CruellaDeVille wrote: Anyone in Australia notice the complete lack of TV/Radio advertising? Whilst it rated a brief mention amongst the news on some channels, there has been nothing that would inform the general public and so ensure something like a full house. I'm happy if this lasts up until the pre-sale tickets tomorrow, but people in the promotions department need a kick up the arse!

SweetCaroline wrote:

CruellaDeVille wrote: Anyone in Australia notice the complete lack of TV/Radio advertising? Whilst it rated a brief mention amongst the news on some channels, there has been nothing that would inform the general public and so ensure something like a full house. I'm happy if this lasts up until the pre-sale tickets tomorrow, but people in the promotions department need a kick up the arse!

Hey Cruella, they just added a second show in Sydney: http://twitter.com/brianmaycom/status/471380348044320768

inu-liger wrote: Likely will be giving my thoughts after the shows indeed :)

SweetCaroline wrote: "Due to unbridled excitement and overwhelming pre-sale demand, promoters for the upcoming Queen + Adam Lambert Australian tour are giving Sydney audiences one more chance to see what is sure to be a powerhouse spectacular." http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/queen-adam-lambert-second-sydney-show-announced/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MusicFeeds+%28Music+Feeds%29

SweetCaroline wrote: Another radio interview--Perth http://soundcloud.com/scorpios4music/adam-lambert-interview-perth-96fmau-2014-05-27?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=wtshare&utm_medium=Twitter&utm_content=https://soundcloud.com/scorpios4music/adam-lambert-interview-perth-96fmau-2014-05-27

queenliveforever! 34422 wrote: would be great if adam sang one of the new songs they recorded with freddie vocal on. Also brian said in a recent interview that made in heaven is his favourtie queen song at the moment. I hope they consider playing this live on the tour. I think adam has the vocal range to pull it off, it would be a very hard song to sing live!

queenliveforever! 34422 wrote: would be great if adam sang one of the new songs they recorded with freddie vocal on. Also brian said in a recent interview that made in heaven is his favourtie queen song at the moment. I hope they consider playing this live on the tour. I think adam has the vocal range to pull it off, it would be a very hard song to sing live!

SweetCaroline wrote: "Adam Lambert Takes On The Haters Promising Queen Tour Will Be One Hell Of A Show" http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/adam-lambert-takes-on-the-haters-promising-queen-tour-will-be-one-hell-of-a-show/story-e6frfn29-1226934223899

SweetCaroline wrote: Posted by an Australian: "The first Sydney show appears to have sold out in one day. (I'm going). I saw Muse at the same venue in December and it took them months to sell it out."

taptap wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Posted by an Australian: "The first Sydney show appears to have sold out in one day. (I'm going). I saw Muse at the same venue in December and it took them months to sell it out."

Wow, congratulations! (and get ready for a long flight!)

SweetCaroline wrote:

taptap wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Posted by an Australian: "The first Sydney show appears to have sold out in one day. (I'm going). I saw Muse at the same venue in December and it took them months to sell it out."

Wow, congratulations! (and get ready for a long flight!)

That was from someone who lives in Australia!

SweetCaroline wrote: I wish it was me going to Australia -- I've always wanted to go there, but I don't foresee that happening during the rest of my lifetime! I can't even get to New York City!

inu-liger wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: I wish it was me going to Australia -- I've always wanted to go there, but I don't foresee that happening during the rest of my lifetime! I can't even get to New York City!

I've been to NYC three times. It's great! Wish I could actually live there, I feel so much more at home there than I do here in Edmonton :)

taptap wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote:

taptap wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Posted by an Australian: "The first Sydney show appears to have sold out in one day. (I'm going). I saw Muse at the same venue in December and it took them months to sell it out."

Wow, congratulations! (and get ready for a long flight!)

That was from someone who lives in Australia!

Oops, sorry, missed the 'Posted by an Australian line'.

taptap wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: "Adam Lambert Takes On The Haters Promising Queen Tour Will Be One Hell Of A Show" http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/adam-lambert-takes-on-the-haters-promising-queen-tour-will-be-one-hell-of-a-show/story-e6frfn29-1226934223899

"Stay home." LOLOL.  Looks like Adam's taking a page from Brian and Roger's book.  I'm betting he was advised specifically on this from those two so they were all in sync.  Smart. Also interesting that they're discussing writing together.  I imagine if they decide to do an album, they'll take a similar stance as they did originally - all members get writing credit for the songs.  What a great learning experience for Adam if he gets to write with these legends.

inu-liger wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: I wish it was me going to Australia -- I've always wanted to go there, but I don't foresee that happening during the rest of my lifetime! I can't even get to New York City!

I've been to NYC three times. It's great! Wish I could actually live there, I feel so much more at home there than I do here in Edmonton :)

SweetCaroline wrote:

inu-liger wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: I wish it was me going to Australia -- I've always wanted to go there, but I don't foresee that happening during the rest of my lifetime! I can't even get to New York City!

I've been to NYC three times. It's great! Wish I could actually live there, I feel so much more at home there than I do here in Edmonton :)

I still have hopes of visiting NYC, but not Australia!

taptap wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote:

inu-liger wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: I wish it was me going to Australia -- I've always wanted to go there, but I don't foresee that happening during the rest of my lifetime! I can't even get to New York City!

I've been to NYC three times. It's great! Wish I could actually live there, I feel so much more at home there than I do here in Edmonton :)

I still have hopes of visiting NYC, but not Australia!

New Zealand is the place I'd really love to visit.  A friend of mine used to work for a global accounting firm, and traveled with a team 8 months out of the year (and was off for the other 4).  He spent some time in NZ and said it was the most gorgeous place he'd ever seen.  He said you could go from ocean beaches to river-trout fishing in thirty minutes, and from the rivers to skiing in the mountains in thirty minutes more.  Tremendous changes in topography and climate in no time at all.  It sounds beautiful.

SweetCaroline wrote: After only one day of ticket sales: AUSTRALIA 08-22-14 Perth Arena Perth 15,500 05-29 $195 Only upper level/side of stage available 08-26-14 Allphones Arena Sydney 21,000 05-29 $179 Sold out first day 08-27-14 Allphones Arena Sydney 21,000 05-29 $179 Only side/back of stage available (added show) 08-29-14 Rod Laver Arena Melbourne 14,820 05-29 $199 Only upper level/side of stage tickets available 08-30-14 Rod Laver Arena Melbourne 14,820 05-29 $199 Only upper level/side of stage tickets available (added show) 09-01-14 Brisbane Entertainment Centre 13,500 05-29 $189 Only tickets left are side of stage view