pittrek 22.04.2014 14:24 |
Queen Live at the Rainbow Theatre, London, UK March 31st 1974 Video source 1 : PRO master > Japan TV > ? > NTSC VHS(x) > NTSC DVD(x) > DVDDecrypter > MPG2 file > AviSynth (speed correction) > VirtualDubMod > NeatVideo plugin > uncompressed AVI > Cinema Craft Encoder > MPG2 file, PAL, 8MBps bitrate Video source 2 : PRO master > ? > link web documentary in Real format > RealPlayer (unfortunately) > VCD :-( > MPG > AviSynth (various filters trying to mask the extremely bad VCD resolution and compression artifacts, resizing to PAL dimensions, letterboxing the widescreen footage to achieve 4:3 aspect ratio) > Cinema Craft Encoder > MPG2 file, PAL, 8MBps bitrate Video source 3 : PRO master > ? (film?) > Swedish TV broadcast > DVD Recorder > VOB > Queenzone share by wrak(?) > AviSynth (speed correction) > uncompressed AVI > VirtualDubMod > DeLogo plugin (for removing the "2" logo from top right corner) > NeatVideo plugin (for removing various artifacts and hiding DeLogo artifacts) > uncompressed AVI > Cinema Craft Encoder > MPG2 file, PAL, 8MBps bitrate Video source 4 : PRO master > ? > horrible "When Freddie Mercury Met Kenny Everett" documentary > AviSynth (contrast improvements) > AVI > Cinema Craft Encoder > MPG2 file, PAL, 8MBps bitrate Video source 5 : PRO master > VHS(x) - VERY high generation copy > bootleg DVD > MPG2 Photo source - many different professional photographs from this gig Audio source : see link Tracklist: 1. Procession 2. Son And Daughter 3. Seven Seas of Rhye 4. Modern Times Rock'n'Roll Procession - video to Procession is made from the backstage footage from the November show(s) and various other bits Son And Daughter - the intro is a mix of video sources 2 and 3, from "What comes next?" it switches to video source 1. All letterboxed parts come from video source 1. The low quality miss-colored ending comes from video source 5. Seven Seas of Rhye - the video to SSOR is basically one long slideshow made from many professional photographs Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll - the intro comes from video source 4, the rest comes from source 1 All the sources were joined together and encoded as a mkv file. If somebody of you guys want to do a DVD or have problems playing mkv files, the video stream is a DVD-compliant mpg2 file, so you can just demux the mkv file and you have mpgs. Download link link link link Download all 4 parts and unrar. BTW as usual, there is a little "watermark" or "intentional defect" which is small enough so 99% of you won't notice. I'm doing it so that I can identify how far the video will get. DO NOT UPLOAD TO YOUTUBE OR SIMILAR SITES. DO NOT SELL. DO NOT "RELEASE" IT AS A PROFESSIONAL BOOTLEG I have shared this video after a long long time, and there is a big chance it will be the last video you will get from me, I'm really sick of people who download stuff for free and then sell copies of it for money. Also - does anybody have a better quality video source? Please contact me, the footage is great, but the quality definitely needs improvements :-) |
lemonysnick123 22.04.2014 15:12 |
Thank you very much Pittrek!! :D |
last-horizon 42265 22.04.2014 15:20 |
Thanks! :) |
DepeX 22.04.2014 15:37 |
Beautiful!!! I can't thank you enough... |
Chief Mouse 22.04.2014 15:52 |
Thanks, Peter :) I'll check this as soon as I have time. |
Barry Durex 22.04.2014 16:07 |
Thanks Pittrek, can I ask if you use an LCD monitor to do your work? |
onedunpark 22.04.2014 16:23 |
Thanks so much, always appreciated |
tittu82 23.04.2014 01:07 |
WoW! Thank you soooooooooooooo much! ;-) |
Vali 23.04.2014 03:05 |
holly shit !! fantastic job, Peter !! with the video here and with the audio merge as well ! thanks a lot buddy :-) |
Raffy 23.04.2014 05:51 |
This is absolutely brilliant ;) thanks so much for sharing this with us! Until the official hypothetical release I think that we can consider this the best circulating document about wonderful March '74 Rainbow's gig. |
Rami 23.04.2014 08:20 |
Great! Thank you very much for your effort!! |
Rokku 23.04.2014 09:08 |
oops ^^ |
Rokku 23.04.2014 09:09 |
Thank You! |
The Real Wizard 23.04.2014 11:50 |
Needless to say, this is pretty bad-ass. A fine effort to compile the best sources of the earliest Queen footage we know of. Thanks, Pittrek ! |
wrak 23.04.2014 13:00 |
thanks for this! "> Queenzone share by wrak(?)" correct |
tassilo 23.04.2014 13:03 |
Thanks a lot! |
DepeX 23.04.2014 14:20 |
Pittrek, I have a question: what software have you used for merging the various sources? Thanks PS: sent you another PM :-) |
Harry_queenrecordings 23.04.2014 14:40 |
Fantastic! Huge thanks Pittrek! |
jabbo5150 23.04.2014 21:39 |
Thanks! |
Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon 24.04.2014 04:52 |
Great! thank you very much Pittrek! |
RadekQ 24.04.2014 14:53 |
Thank you!!! |
vivaqueen 26.04.2014 13:26 |
MERCI BEAUCOUP |
pittrek 26.04.2014 14:47 |
Barry Durex wrote: Thanks Pittrek, can I ask if you use an LCD monitor to do your work?Yes, I do. Why? Before you ask, it is calibrated. In a way :-) |
GuitarMay 26.04.2014 17:39 |
Beautifull job as always Pittrek ;) The Rainbow shows need this, thanks so much. !!! |
Tim June 27.04.2014 14:18 |
Wow! Interesting early Queen stuff and a very good montage of sources. Thank you very much! |
people on streets 28.04.2014 14:55 |
pittrek wrote:Thanks for the share Peter. Great work. Nice to see you make MKV's too.Barry Durex wrote: Thanks Pittrek, can I ask if you use an LCD monitor to do your work?Yes, I do. Why? Before you ask, it is calibrated. In a way :-) I really like the MKV format. Wich tool did you use to calibrate the monitor? |
jabbo5150 28.04.2014 17:11 |
Great work! Two questions. I am on a Mac and was able to play it with VLC. How would I go about demuxing this to .M2V to make a DVD? MPEG Streamclip doesn't seem to do it. Or I also have an Oppo BDP-93 Blu-Ray player that I think would play this. How would I have to format the disc to get it to? It would fit on a standard DVD. |
pittrek 29.04.2014 04:03 |
people on streets wrote:Unfortunately just the THX optimizer, nothing fancy. That's why I added the "in a way" part :-)pittrek wrote:Thanks for the share Peter. Great work. Nice to see you make MKV's too. I really like the MKV format. Wich tool did you use to calibrate the monitor?Barry Durex wrote: Thanks Pittrek, can I ask if you use an LCD monitor to do your work?Yes, I do. Why? Before you ask, it is calibrated. In a way :-) |
pittrek 29.04.2014 04:05 |
jabbo5150 wrote: Great work! Two questions. I am on a Mac and was able to play it with VLC. How would I go about demuxing this to .M2V to make a DVD? MPEG Streamclip doesn't seem to do it. Or I also have an Oppo BDP-93 Blu-Ray player that I think would play this. How would I have to format the disc to get it to? It would fit on a standard DVD.I have no clue about Mac software. Did you try MKVToolnix for Mac? The windows version works perfectly with the mkv file. |
Barry Durex 29.04.2014 06:41 |
^ I can't see an option to demux in mkvtoolnix for windows. Regarding this share, is some or all of the video de-interlaced? That's why I asked if you used an LCD monitor. |
brians wig 29.04.2014 07:09 |
Download tsmuxer (it's free) and use that to demux. |
pittrek 29.04.2014 07:56 |
Barry Durex wrote: ^ I can't see an option to demux in mkvtoolnix for windows. Regarding this share, is some or all of the video de-interlaced? That's why I asked if you used an LCD monitor.The final video is encoded as interlaced top field first, I can't tell you about the sources |
Barry Durex 29.04.2014 07:59 |
Thanks brians wig, that software demuxed the mkv. It reports the source video as interlaced. Just my opinion but I think de-interlaced video looks better on LCD monitors. |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 30.04.2014 07:04 |
OKay call me stupid. But I need a answer to this question: I downloaded the Pittrek share of the reel tape and the video source. My question is: during SAD the sound changes from reel tape to video source (what comes next ?..) , the audio from the reel tapes and the video source (channel 4 , granada ?) are these taken from the same audio multi tracks or is the audio of the video source a unique audio source taken from the camera microphones ? So is the sound of both taken from the same source ? I am asking this because the audio of the video source is quite different but this could be the problem of high generations VHS copies. |
brians wig 30.04.2014 07:29 |
Barry Durex wrote: Thanks brians wig, that software demuxed the mkv. It reports the source video as interlaced. Just my opinion but I think de-interlaced video looks better on LCD monitors.Personally I like to watch videos on a thing called a television set and even though I now have a modern HD TV, I still prefer video to be interlaced ESPECIALLY if that's the source. Of course, with this edit being from a variety of sources, deinterlacing it all would have been a better option. When video editing, I still use an old CRT so I can see that the finished output is interlaced and, more importantly, in the correct field order. There's nowt worse than an exclusive, only one of its kind, video from some muppet that hasn't a clue about field orders and you end up with those awful horizontal lines that flicker and jerk on any movement. Sorry. getting off my soapbox now. |
Barry Durex 30.04.2014 08:24 |
^ I have a thing called an LCD HD television set ;-) I agree that if your HD "TV" is a CRT (unlikely) then an interlaced video would indeed look mighty fine on it. LCD TVs however are not interlaced and some of those interlaced videos from the RT box set look horrible on them. De-interlace those same videos and they look great. Just my preference I guess. |
The Real Wizard 30.04.2014 10:08 |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! wrote: are these taken from the same audio multi tracks or is the audio of the video source a unique audio source taken from the camera microphones ?Yeah, it's a mono video feed, independent from the multi-tracks being recorded by the band. When a band professionally records a show, they tend to have two sets of cables flying around to two mixing boards. One is set up for the house mix, and the other for the recording feed. You need to have two separate mixes, as what sounds good in the room will almost certainly not be what sounds good on tape. But when it's for a TV broadcast like this, it's a lot simpler. They just take a mono (or maybe stereo) mix from the board's auxiliary channel, since it was only intended to be broadcast once or twice and didn't need a ton of work to be done on it after the fact. |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 30.04.2014 14:32 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Thank you sir a complete satisfying answer! 5 stars answer ! I cannot find the "like" button otherwise I would have pressed it a 100 times.Ghostwithasmile is BACK! wrote: are these taken from the same audio multi tracks or is the audio of the video source a unique audio source taken from the camera microphones ?Yeah, it's a mono video feed, independent from the multi-tracks being recorded by the band. When a band professionally records a show, they tend to have two sets of cables flying around to two mixing boards. One is set up for the house mix, and the other for the recording feed. You need to have two separate mixes, as what sounds good in the room will almost certainly not be what sounds good on tape. But when it's for a TV broadcast like this, it's a lot simpler. They just take a mono (or maybe stereo) mix from the board's auxiliary channel, since it was only intended to be broadcast once or twice and didn't need a ton of work to be done on it after the fact. |
jabbo5150 30.04.2014 15:55 |
Thanks for the suggestions! I will try those. Again, I think the Oppo will handle the .mkv file fine, I am just not sure what I would need to format the disc as so the player would read it. |
jabbo5150 01.05.2014 10:25 |
So I just burned the MKV file onto a Mac/PC compatible disc in Toast 11 and the Oppo played it just fine, once I found the folder the file was in. Looked great. Nice work. |
Mr.QueenFan 03.05.2014 17:35 |
Pittrek, thanks a lot for sharing this video. Your editing skills are amazing. Well donne!
The Real Wizard wrote:I have one question about the sound:Ghostwithasmile is BACK! wrote: are these taken from the same audio multi tracks or is the audio of the video source a unique audio source taken from the camera microphones ?Yeah, it's a mono video feed, independent from the multi-tracks being recorded by the band. When a band professionally records a show, they tend to have two sets of cables flying around to two mixing boards. One is set up for the house mix, and the other for the recording feed. You need to have two separate mixes, as what sounds good in the room will almost certainly not be what sounds good on tape. But when it's for a TV broadcast like this, it's a lot simpler. They just take a mono (or maybe stereo) mix from the board's auxiliary channel, since it was only intended to be broadcast once or twice and didn't need a ton of work to be done on it after the fact. During "Son and Daughter" right after the intro, Freddie goes "So, watch out!" . It's obvious that the word "out" is longer in the audio than in the video. Is there any explanation to this? On youtube, every version seems to have the same editing, so i don't know if a "different" version was ever aired with the original audio or not. |
The Real Wizard 04.05.2014 02:14 |
Mr.QueenFan wrote: I have one question about the sound: During "Son and Daughter" right after the intro, Freddie goes "So, watch out!" . It's obvious that the word "out" is longer in the audio than in the video. Is there any explanation to this?Plenty of the vocals on the multi-track / bootleg version are overdubs, including lead vocals. The most obvious example is during Liar, where "time after time" and "liar" overlap. |
pittrek 04.05.2014 04:58 |
Not only "out", if you look at Modern Times, every last word in every line of Freddie sounds longer, the sound usually ends when Freddie's mouth is already closed. We were talking about it a long time ago and since other elements, like the drums or the backing vocals fit perfectly, the most probable answer is that almost all of Freddie's vocals were overdubbed to be "perfect" so that the live album would work best |
cmi 04.05.2014 06:37 |
It's really pity to know that Freddie probably spent the whole day to re-record his vocals for this concert. And after 40 years it still didn't deserve the proper release. Same for November shows... |
Mr.QueenFan 04.05.2014 16:14 |
pittrek wrote: Not only "out", if you look at Modern Times, every last word in every line of Freddie sounds longer, the sound usually ends when Freddie's mouth is already closed. We were talking about it a long time ago and since other elements, like the drums or the backing vocals fit perfectly, the most probable answer is that almost all of Freddie's vocals were overdubbed to be "perfect" so that the live album would work bestOK, this is what i thought. One can conclude that this 2 song set was a promo video made Queen's management for TV's around the world (and possibly promoters), to promote the future live album that was later shelved. This means that they had everything in place for the release of the live album. I wonder why it was shelved at the last minute. Either way, i think it's worth to keep searching for the whole video, because it's fantastic. I'm really looking forward for their Rainbow project. Once again Pittrek, you did a fantastic job with this video. |
DepeX 05.05.2014 13:37 |
Pittrek, I have another one question: Where have you found the footage of Freddie (5 seconds) during Procession? |
pittrek 05.05.2014 14:00 |
That's from Tokyo 75, from one of the documentaries (not sure which one). I just needed something for filling a couple of seconds and this was perfect - at the time it wasn't known from which gig the footage came, it "could" be Rainbow. |
Double-U 09.05.2014 03:06 |
Fantastic share! Thank you very much! kind regards, W. |
pittrek 09.05.2014 03:41 |
Barry Durex wrote: ^ I have a thing called an LCD HD television set ;-) I agree that if your HD "TV" is a CRT (unlikely) then an interlaced video would indeed look mighty fine on it. LCD TVs however are not interlaced and some of those interlaced videos from the RT box set look horrible on them. De-interlace those same videos and they look great. Just my preference I guess.Funny, my LCD HD TV is doing automatic deinterlace :-) I haven't seen the RT videos yet, but if they look as weird as the 2011 Wembley set, it's caused by a fucked up PAL->NTSC conversion, not by interlacing |
Barry Durex 09.05.2014 04:55 |
Like I said, de-interlacing some videos can cure playback issues on LCD TVs. I HAVE watched the RT DVD, some of the videos on the original disc look awful on an LCD TV, but fine on a CRT TV. De-interlace those same videos and play them back on the same LCD TV and they look fine. I'm repeating myself here, but I have done it myself and I know it to be the case. I don't like PAL to NTSC conversions either, but not much we can do about that ;-) |
Mr.QueenFan 09.05.2014 15:18 |
pittrek wrote: Funny, my LCD HD TV is doing automatic deinterlace :-) I haven't seen the RT videos yet, but if they look as weird as the 2011 Wembley set, it's caused by a fucked up PAL->NTSC conversion, not by interlacingI'm glad i read this. The Wembley first night really looks bad on my TV. I thought that it was my product that was ruined, but is this the way it looks for everybody? It seems like i'm watching an old youtube video. |
Nitroboy 11.05.2014 17:45 |
I've never seen that opening bit for Modern Times Rock 'N Roll, so that was a surprise. Thank you for this merge! I am a bit curious though, why are you against this being uploaded to YouTube? :) |
juanrgisbert 16.06.2014 18:41 |
Again, thank you very much for sharing such a fantastic work!! |
pittrek 17.06.2014 01:34 |
Nitroboy wrote: I've never seen that opening bit for Modern Times Rock 'N Roll, so that was a surprise. Thank you for this merge! I am a bit curious though, why are you against this being uploaded to YouTube? :)Let's say that I don't like other people making money from the work of other people. PS you will see this video in September |
Nitroboy 17.06.2014 05:24 |
pittrek wrote:Nitroboy wrote: I've never seen that opening bit for Modern Times Rock 'N Roll, so that was a surprise. Thank you for this merge! I am a bit curious though, why are you against this being uploaded to YouTube? :)Let's say that I don't like other people making money from the work of other people. PS you will see this video in September Fair point :) I guess all of these Rainbow bootlegs have become obsolete now that they just announced it, lol! It'll still be fun to compare the September release to the old bootleg videos though ;O |
Benn Kempster 17.06.2014 08:14 |
......unless the bootleggers come out with a complete Rainbow with TFFMS before the official one is released. |
lfvdh 22.06.2014 13:07 |
thank you very much :) |
livelife 23.06.2014 20:02 |
Thank you a lot Pittrek!! |
truemetal 06.07.2014 11:23 |
FANTASTIC ! Thanks ! |
MackMantilla 07.07.2014 12:54 |
What a job, Pittrek! It's nice to have this merge while waiting for the official release next september ;) |
katman 10.07.2014 11:02 |
Pittrek - thanks for your fine work on this, and your other projects. The hard work that people put into these things is often under-appreciated, not to mention the sacrifice of free time, etc. :) |
pittrek 10.07.2014 14:58 |
Thank you very much for your nice words |
kevukuk 29.07.2014 02:00 |
Thanks very much Pittrek, downloaded this little beauty last night, really looking forward to watching it. Your efforts are much appreciated mate,2014 is definitely a great year for Queen fans. |
NykoAq 21.06.2019 02:17 |
New Link please ?? |
pittrek 21.06.2019 06:30 |
Why? It was officially released, there is no reason for owning this anymore |